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gap between desantis and the former criminally indicted president is slipping. desantis is trying to outtrump trump. but it's not working. so back to the question. what happened? and what does this mean for republicans who know trump is politically toxic and a multiple loser and are desperate for an alternative. joining me to discuss and not to mock is bernard. bernard, i always start with you because you are in the free state of florida. i have always been skeptical of desantis. he is just like mark rubio, he's just like bush. people in new york decide he's
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attacks and attempts to politically harass her for doing her job. >> let's listen to some of what dr. bernard has said today at the hearing. >> i think that it is incredibly important for people to understand the real world impacts of the laws, of this country, of abortion or otherwise. i think it is important for people to know what patients will have to go through, because of legislation that is being passed. and, a hypothetical does not make that impact, it does not help people understand what is happening. >> why is the hearing going on for so long? >> i mean, i think multiple people today have said that this is a hearing that is unlike any other hearing that has ever happened. at the indian medical licensing board. i think that this case is
to make in his isolated professional life. joining us now is dr. stacey -- that -- she has been attending today's hearing in support of dr. bernard. and dr. wilkinson, as i understand it, the hearing is still going on at this late hour? >> it is, we have been here for 13 hours, and we are still not done. >> the issue of violation of the patients privacy is something that dr. bernard has denied, and also the issue of, the other issues involved are things that she has made clear that she did, indeed, notify and made sure that authorities were notified about this ten year old girl being raped. >> yes, we've been watching the attacks on dr. bernard for the last year, but today has been especially hard to watch 13 hours of just persistent
unique, i think it is extreme, and i think, for that reason, it is taking us over 12 hours to talk about it. >> there are, on that board, very edgy contributors, financial contributors, to the state attorney generals political campaigns, the republican attorney general, and it is that attorney general who is brought to this complaint against dr. bernard. >> i read that same article this morning about those political contributions, but ultimately this comes down to harassment and trying to intimidate physicians from being able to do their job, which is to take care of patients and offer them comprehensive health care, which includes abortion care. in many cases and even in these horrific cases, such as this particular patient we've been talking about today. >> what are the possible penalties that dr. bernard is facing? >> from my understanding it could be anything from a letter of disciplinary action, to a
pediatrician an associate professor at indiana school of medicine. she has been attending today's hearing in support of dr. bernard. and dr. wilkinson, as i understand it, the hearing is still going on at this late hour? >> it is, we have been here for 13 hours, and we are still not done. >> the issue of violation of the patients privacy is something that dr. bernard has denied, and also the issue of, the other issues involved are things that she has made clear that she did, indeed, notify and made sure that authorities were notified about this ten year old girl being raped. >> yes, we've been watching the attacks on dr. bernard for the last year, but today has been especially hard to watch 13 hours of just persistent attacks and attempts to politically harass her for doing her job. >> let's listen to some of what dr. bernard has said today at the hearing. >> i think that it is incredibly important for people to understand the real world impacts of the laws, of this country, of abortion or
complaint against dr. bernard. >> i read that same article this morning about those political contributions, but ultimately this comes down to harassment and trying to intimidate physicians from being able to do their job, which is to take care of patients and offer them comprehensive health care, which includes abortion care. in many cases and even in these horrific cases, such as this particular patient we've been talking about today. >> what are the possible penalties that dr. bernard is facing? >> from my understanding it could be anything from a letter of disciplinary action, to a fine, to a suspension of her medical license, either temporarily or permanently. but, what is important, is that whatever happens today, is going to have repercussions in