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of confusion, just trying to figure out a lot of what was going on. these grand jury proceedings are private by design, and just figuring out which witnesses were coming in, we weren't able to confirm everybody ahead of time. so figuring that out, there was a big bit of confusion in the middle of the day with the clerks office, who apparently released and then immediately dummied a document that looked eerily like an indictment of donald trump. it ended up being a very similar, if not the same to what ended up being hinted out by the grand jury. but that was a very striking moment as well. and the presentation to the grand jury ended up taking a lot less time to. we thought this rico case would take about two days, the dea ended up rushing getting it done over one very long day, and i think it goes to show the sensitive nature of this case. a lot of these juries, we've seen their names, photos, addresses have been put on to the web. -- fearing that they could be harassed, and i think that

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The Last Word With Lawrence ODonnell

this certainly tells the judge in georgia what kind of a trial date to expect there. they're talking three years from now in the washington case so they will be asking for something similar to that or more in georgia. >> well it may very well be that each judge is watching, or having their clerks identify the different timelines, but let's remember, these are first, of all two different just diction,'s jurisdictions, state and federal, and at least four or three or four different judges, each of whom is going to have their own way of managing their docket, and their own responsibility to the constituents that much like amy lee indicated. so while there may be an awareness, i would be surprised if that awareness would really influence any particular judge to try and time the time

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The Last Word With Lawrence ODonnell

lawyers. again, when we get to the issue of bond, not only is the da going to be able to put forth an argument as to whether she thinks any of the defendants should be held pending trial. but obviously their defense counsel is going to present the alternative view. i think this is going to be something that's going to be up to judge mcafee. i'm sure he and his clerks and team are watching and seeing much of this documented evidence. but those decisions are going to rest on his shoulders. we will need to see how he evaluates them. >> amy lee copeland, one struggles to imagine what any, anyone could seriously say in donald trump's defense at a monday event, which is why i read just that one page of the

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The Last Word With Lawrence ODonnell

georgia law is part of what might be controlling donald trump's behavior for, who knows, at least 24 hours? >> i think the only person that can really answer that is the former president and his lawyers. again, when we get to the issue of bond, not only is the dea going to be able to put forth an argument as to whether she thinks any of the defendants should be held pending trial. but obviously their defense counsel is going to present the alternative view. this is going to be something that's going to be up to judge mcafee. i'm sure he and his clerks and team are watching and seeing much of this documented evidence. but those decisions are going to rest on his shoulders. we will need to see how he evaluates them. >> amy lee copeland, one

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The Last Word With Lawrence ODonnell

do something more realistic, will consider it will be a year from the day of the indictment. >> all of these judges at this point in this case must be looking at every one of these filings, taking note anyway of every one of these filings and this certainly tells the george in georgia what kind of a trial date to expect there. they're talking three years from now in the washington case so they will be asking for something similar to that or more in georgia. >> >> well it may very well be that reached out just watching, or having their clerks identify the different timelines, but let's remember, these are first, of all two different just diction,'s state and federal, and at least four or three or four different judges, each of whom is going to have their own way of managing their docket, and their own responsibility to

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Fox News at Night

>> trace: 20 seconds ginny. >> crime fays without consequences and these retail clerks didn't go to the police academy and shouldn't enforce the law. >> trace: it rail is a sad evolution, you see a lot of cities la is one, san francisco, stockton and we see it again and again in san diego we have people coming up saying hey it's a problem. thank you both. >> thank you. >> coming up hundreds still missing in maui the latest on the search and rescue efforts in a live report on the ground. william lajeunesse doing his yeoman's work on the ground in maui. layer in the nightcap if you had a chance to put up a build board that millions of people would see, would you do it? and, if so, what would your message be in favor words or less. let us know on x and instagram at trace gallagher. give us your logan and we will give it to the rest of the country coming up in nightcap. meanwhile 8:20 in the west coast fox news at night trip across america first a live look.

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Katy Tur Reports

month's delay? >> months upon months upon months. first you file your motion, then the government gets an opportunity to respond, you get an opportunity to reply, then you have a hearing, then the judge's clerks go back and write an opinion for months and months and there's no deadline for any of this. >> laura jarrett, ken dilanian, thank you very much. joining me is former dekalb county district attorney and coauthor of the brookings institution, gwen keys fleming. it's good to have you. >> thanks for having me. >> you know, fani willis wants march 4th, which is just over six months if i'm doing my math in my head correctly, the judge is going to have discretion over when this happens. this is a brand new judge that's getting the case. he's been on the bench for six month, and that is a giant case. can we read into him at all? do we know anything about him? >> you're right. this is a quite a case to cut your teeth on within your first

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All In With Chris Hayes

georgia law, georgia law requires that a moment an indictment is handed up, it has to be unsealed. there's no lack period. there's no waiting period. that unsealing process, essentially it looks like taking the indictment over to the presiding judge, in this case it is judge robert mcburney who's overseeing much of this entire process from the beginning until now. taking it to him as he is still on the bench right now, to look at the indictments. he will hand the mac. that constitutes unsealing. and then, we will get some sort of no vacation, whether it's from the d.a.'s office, whether it's from the clerks office, that will be when that information becomes public. and we will see the indictment and see what was decided on, symone? >> lastly, blayne, because i know you need to get back and get this information for us. we are all waiting. are we going to hear from d.a. fani willis tonight? do you have any intel on that? >> reporter: we expect to. we understand that she is planning on holding some sort of conference, speaking in some form, once all of this is wrapped up. so we've been reading the tea

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All In With Chris Hayes

inside the courtroom. it swivels at time. the other footage was, we understand it would be the hallway and the adjacent clerks office. nicole, i think we are seeing the walking of those documents, which is signed by the clerk in this room, andrew. >> alex exactly. to the point of transparency, one thing to note is that in georgia's state courts, it's common to have cameras in the courtroom. and that is one of the reasons to keep your eye on the fact that when donald trump is indicted, as we all expect to see momentarily, that he is going to be moving to have the case taken federal, as he tried in manhattan -- >> new york, yes. >> if that happens and he succeeds, the federal rules will govern the trial. so one of the consequences of that issue whether it is state or federal, is cameras in the courtroom, because that's one where it would take the chief justice of the united states to

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jury is obviously, you know, under seal. in terms of what's gonna happen in the courtroom, it sounds like that's pretty open compared to what we saw in manhattan and in the two federal cases. is it your expectation that a decision to be able to watch that so-called hand of the indictment, that we are than gonna be able to see the charges shortly thereafter? >> i think so. and it becomes a document, a public document once it is handed to the judge. it might take a little bit for the clerks office to publish that publicly on their website. but at that point, it becomes public. so hopefully within minutes or maybe one hour, we will be able to see that document. it's worth noting that at this point, we are not expecting former president trump or anyone like that to be showing up in the courthouse, for an arraignment or surrender. that is negotiated in the weeks to come, if he will be indicted here. but it is certainly amazing the sheer openness of george's

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