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State of the Union-20150412-13:23:00

perception? >> women have come a long way. women are in positions not because they're women, they're in positions like yours because they're intelligent and they should be equal to their counter parts and treated equally. the interviewers in the last couple of days got it easier than i gave to eliot spitzer probably a year or two ago. the thing is i'm unwilling to let people characterize things unfairly and if someone's going to write an op ed on me in the question that's fair for them to try to do it but it's also fair for me to try to set the record straight that they're editorializing in the question. >> what about if you are on the stage with hillary clinton, will you be cognizant of the fact that she would be a female opponent? >> i'm always polite. even in the interviews where i'm accused of being too aggressive i've never yelled or screamed. i don't get out of control. i do try to be polite. i've always treated it that way. i would treat her with the same respect that i would treat a man but i wouldn't lay down and say

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State of the Union-20150412-13:38:00

helping our cities and towns get out of bankruptcy. even our capital city of providence was eligible. that's not true today. >> a little known fact. you went to boarding school, high school with jeb bush back in the day. were you friends? what do you know about him personally? do you think he could make a good president? >> yes, we were friends. we lived in the same dorm together. we've bumped into each other the same time since. we'll see what happens coming down the road. >> do you think he would make a good president? he's not his brother, obviously. he has different views on things. >> now we have three bushes to compare, the father george w. and now jeb. we'll see how it goes down in the campaign. >> lastly you sounded like you were pretty far in this morning in our discussion. are you definitely going to run? >> well the process is to form the exploratory committee but, yes, i want to be there november december january debating these issues. >> okay.

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State of the Union-20150412-13:47:00

grandchildren, but this administration has on so many different fronts short circuited that and has made the situation worse. they've closed doors for people rather than opening doors. and that is going to be something hillary clinton is going to have to decide is she going to run on the obama record or is she going to change that? because what has happened in the past eight years makes it much more difficult for our children and grandchildren to have a fruitful productive free life. >> what about that paul? you know what's going on in that world. you've been in that world for decades. it is not easy to run as a third democratic term you know and that's certainly what she's going to try to do. there hasn't been a third term of a party since george h.w. bush in 1988. he came off a pretty popular presidency with ronald regan. >> in labor day of this year 1988 ronald regan was at 52%.

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State of the Union-20150412-13:03:00

fledgling, if you will campaign is talking about it right now. one of the great mistakes of 2008 was not getting off to a good start. right here in iowa she was outorganized by then senator barack obama and connecting with people means meeting them where they live talking to them on their own level. we've already seen some of that from that mission statement that came out in advance of this expected announcement. the expectation now is that they're going to try to show a more humble hillary clinton willing to fight for every vote. the rollout seen as a soft start, a humble beginning if you will. what to expect on the ground assuming that announcement does come today, democratic strategists telling me they expect an extraordinarily tightly controlled and stage managed campaign with lots of messaged discipline to try to avoid some of the miss steps and in fighting we saw last year. and some of that, of course, you see already in the radio silence coming from her inner circle about today and the coming week

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State of the Union-20150412-13:18:00

sitting down with me. let's start with the news of the weekend, hillary clinton announcing for president. over the past week you've been really critical of her when it comes to the issue of trust talking about benghazi talking about the donations to the clinton foundation. how far back do you think is fair game? do you think monica? do you think white water? do you think the travel office issues? what should be in the realm of the public debate now? >> you know i'm not sure that i'll get to decide what's in the realm or not, but i do think that there is sort of a history of the clintons sort of feeling like they're above the law. they said they weren't going to take donations from the clinton foundation during the time she was secretary of state and there are questions whether they did. since then there are questions of them taking millions of dollars from saudi arabia from the sultan of brunai. countries that have an abysmal women's record and human rights record. it questions the sin cert of whether or not she would be a

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State of the Union-20150412-13:19:00

champion of women's rights when she accepts money from a country like brunai when it stones to death people of adultery. the men have the only say in the legal system in brunai. it makes it difficult for her message to appear sincere when she's taking money from these foreign countries. >> you said you don't get to decide but you do get to choose where you criticize her and where you don't. >> right. >> how far back do you think is fair game? >> i think that her public policy and public life will be fair game. >> some of your critics on the republican side -- >> i don't have any critics, do i? >> i know shocking. you do have critics on both sides as you know. some of your republican critics argue that you are actually to the left of hillary clinton on foreign policy that she's more hawkish than you are. >> yeah. here's the interesting thing about this who's aligned with president obama, whose foreign policy is closest to president obama. interestingly, many of the hawks in my party line right up with

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State of the Union-20150412-13:25:00

domestic spending. my belief has been national defense is the most important thing we do but we shouldn't borrow to pay for it. there is a division in our party. one of them said i'm going to increase defense spending but i'm going to borrow the money and make the debt worse. i put up what's called a side by side. i believe in putting up a strong defense but i don't believe in borrowing for it. i don't think you should borrow money from china to do it. i said i will only pay for events by cutting spending elsewhere. >> that may be true, but you're also somebody who's trying to prove that you are not weak on national security so by proposing an increase in military spending before you announce for president could look like pandering. >> three or four years ago we did the same thing so we have been proposing increases in military spending but always --

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State of the Union-20150412-13:32:30

State of the Union-20150412-13:32:30
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State of the Union-20150412-13:01:00

in a few hours she'll make it official her candidacy for president of the united states. it's been going on around her and about her for months. we are covering all angles of this story. we begin with cnn's mark preston who is at the clinton campaign headquarters in new york. mark you're not in a ballroom. this is intentionally low key. explain why. >> reporter: dana no question about that. in fact when hillary clinton ran for president in 2008 they made a tactical mistake. they were upset with the clintons her candidacy, because there was a sense of entitlement that she should have won that is asset. fast forward to where we stand now, hillary clinton realizes she needs to reconnect with the voters. we've heard that from her own husband, bill clinton. he said that in a recent interview. we expect the video to be low key. we expect it in the coming week when she heads to iowa. when she heads to new hampshire

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State of the Union-20150412-13:33:00

now made a surprise announcement this week that he's launching a presidential exploratory committee. it's lincoln chaffee. thank you for joining me. you have an unusual history when it comes to party affiliation. you were appointed to the senate to replace your father. you lost to a democrat. you are now a democrat considering a run for president. why? >> first of all, this is senator clinton's big day and i congratulate her on her entrance into the race. voters should have choices in races so it's going to be a great debate i hope in the democratic primaries. as far as my evolution, certainly the republican party changed and i never changed. as i became an independent my values never changed whether it's on fiscal responsibility environment or using the government tools to help the

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