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[laughter] that he gave to the family a chihuahua puppy is a gift card that was my first memory of him. and of no white supremacist pretty any of the patriotic american. in the latter years of his life, he lived in quietly. diabetes, it is his foot removed and so forth and so on her stories are not unique and i want to tell you about another minute or family by the way is brother, his brother-in-law, sister s husband, named kevin at synthetic he joined the marines the same date, and he fought on the solomon violence, and the canal, and he was a big tough man with big hands and this what i remember. and to tremendous patriots, tremendous patriots and there was my father, and am telling you this for a reason because american families all over this country have gone through the ups and american citizens, houthis and respected by their government and who deserve respect for the president. from there to have it for families it tapped over and over again and lies told about the projection of racism on top of them for the racism the biden family practice in the racism joe biden practice in the senate, and it had nothing to do with my father my grandfather my great uncle are my family, nothing. this on biden and on july 4th 1937, my father jack, then 12 years old, and a neighborhood but he walked it several miles from their homes, the parade route with the city philadelphia was already donations founding father route stretch from center city philadelphia, upper from independence hall come to the philadelphia art museum or sylvester stallone would make famous in the rocky movies, early 40 years later. in a apply, father s attention, a civil war veteran and he said on the back of a four-door convertible, dressed in his all union uniform, including his campaign hat and behind him marched a small group of spanish american war veterans, but of all of the soldiers the veterans are merging vance my father sought that they come the union soldier so that camille jack had been somewhat about the civil war in school, saying the soldier in the flesh intrigued him and the soldier would become seared in my father s mind of the most costly war in american history, became real to and thus become a father s lifelong journey of self-education and patriotic preaching, about this great nation s history and founding principles and at a young age jack in an effort drawing from a designing and when he was 13 years old, he designed an automobile window and intervention for the contest that they were conducting in conjunction with the release of the movie young tom is income starring mickey rooney remember the little triangle window, well and among others, that was his idea and he was one of only five winners citywide, and earned a trip to the 1939, new york world s fair in this had incredible impression on him and a 15, my father committed an idea with drawings for animating the story a christmas carol to the in california, the studio loved and asked that he provide more examples of his work including, numerous cartoon drawings which he did in the next contacted his parents announced that it would allow percentage points disney studios. well, they said they would provide them with dormitory state space in either facility what is working for them but his parents concern about his age, turned down the offer my father grew up during the great depression his family was very very poor and his father harry to part-time jobs when he can find them, and his mother sarah worked in his cigar factory in about a mile down from where there were living jack was the oldest of four children. any boy and when he turned 16 years old, half of the school day you did, you would walk to the cigar factory, down the street where he worked until midnight and running the going rate of $17 a week on week as my father took freelance jobs furniture frame manufactured, sketching frames going to oppose herself as a chair said he was paid, $2 for a set of drawings and manufacturers salesman use the finished drawings with the customers he was later the japanese attacked pearl harbor and jack spend the summer working at the craps shipyard from the philadelphia shipyard, with the oldest destroyers and summaries but he wanted to do more for the war effort like somebody wonderful mentor that young time, my father decided to enlist in the armed forces and he wanted to be a cadet in the army air corps, which today we know the air force. jack was only 17, he was too young and so he security copy of his birth certificate from city hall, rubbed out the number five in 1925, his birth year, any written for and just like that he reached the legal age requirement of 18. now if you pass a rigorous their core exam, he was in and cadets took the exam including students from the university of pennsylvania but only for paths, including my father not long thereafter, is my father was boarding a train to biloxi mississippi, for basic training, the soldier stopped him and told him the lt. wanted to see him of the cynically taken close of the birth certificate and asked jack how old he was objectively the truth. the ten at ten was not very happy with my father when he turned 18, he joined up in a week after, he turned 18 and he did well in their service, jack would use brief respites committed to rock tunes which were published in a variety of newspapers later joined the regular army, and in the infantry and it always bothered him, they never sent him overseas rate and when he was on his deathbed, he called me over five and half years ago, it was just he and i in the hospital room. his body was a wreck with cancer. and he said you know mark, i know what god did not send me to europe in a supply get. and he sits organ have you and your mother and i could have you. my peers were great people. and as he was dying, he was trying to write another book. the declaration of independence and he wrote several books gettysburg address, second inaugural address, and installing to his children and influenced the of a this is what he drew, shortly before he passed away. i shorted before he passed away. in the current president of the united states secretary of state, national security advisor, and the press secretary for the presbytery and for the secretary of state and they keep saying when it comes to his part from there is no victory right when they mean by victory, i m a grandfather knew what victory meant. my great uncle knew what victory that my father knew it victory met it we know what victory means. when i listen to donald trump speech coming in and referencing of the concentration camps only listen to ronald reagan speech, any reference to the six jews had been slaughtered, i listen to joe biden speech and he never mentioned this ralph, no months. talk about trump, the naming him. any talk about ukraine, and i agree with him on ukraine. he is the one that s held back ukraine despite all the money spent, they have not but in the army mets, that they need to actually defeat some of these russian battalions. and is withheld the okay for them to attack beyond a certain level of the europeans have been begging him. and he talks about democracy. but is in front of other groups and he talks about his hate for america. and you know who else know about victory, dwight eisenhower and harry truman, the new something about victory after close to i ve years of fighting the in europe in general and eternal life on june 6, 1944, d-day of the set apart from the tightest turn, the freemen of the world are merging together to victory and i have full confidence in your courage, devotion, to duty skill and that will accept nothing less than victory also year after d-day president harry truman announced ve day of may 8th 1945 in which he said in part, this victory, we join in offering our thanks to the providence in which because guided and sustained us of the dark days of adversity rejoice and sobered is subdued by the supreme consciousness of the terrible price that we have paid through the world of hitler, and his evil band and if i can give away simple watch for the coming months, the board is working, work, and more working we must work coveted finish the work in our victory is only half over but much remains to be done in the victory one in the west and is now being born in the east for the triumph of spirit in arms head of which we have wanted for his promise some of the peoples everywhere, who joined us and 11 freedom and it is fitting that we as a nation give thanks to almighty god and it was us and given us the victory, and i call upon the people of the united states, whatever their faith, to united offering joyful thanks to god for the victory. we have wanted to pray that he will support us, to the end of our present struggling and guide us into the way of peace and i also call upon my countrymen, to dedicate this day of prayer come to the memory of those given their lives to make possible our victory. and he said also my personal appreciation of the suburban leadership, showing you and your commanders and directing the valiant leeches of her own country. and rallies and do this historic victory. every president has known what mean perhaps other than biden and obama in the victory, and israel right now is because i did is funding the enemy is preventing israel from winning. what is victory fiasco the reason ukrainians are now on their heels is not because of lack of money and arms coming it is because biden has held them back. any talking about russia any use that d-day speech. to lie about your political about it in front of the world, where all of those brave men are buried. that s phone place, on that solemn day, is disgusting. >> sue and welcome back america, we have one of the superstars i think it republican party the house of representatives, and at east in it at least if republican conference chair, she s on the house armed services committee, and nobody has question hostile witnesses like she does and i can tell you that, and is a pleasure to have you and i want to start with you, on this immigration issue joe biden was of the border, over 90 executive orders, only has to do is reverse them and we don t need a law in congress to me congresswoman the fellows existing immigration law, when we passed a law this is follow the law was joe biden done here. >> he has created the most catastrophic of border crisis innovations history and the american people know what is wavy look of the polling parking, is trump s pulling over 30 points ahead when he comes to handling up of border security and illegal immigration and house republicans passed the secure the border act, your ago, joe biden refused to support that bill in effect threatened to veto the bill and chuck schumer killed that builds those house republicans who have led legislatively to secure the border and it was joe biden who months ago, said that he did not have the executive authority to fix this border crisis even though the market people know that it was his executive actions that created this border crisis as of this latest desperate executive orders that joe biden has put out, political desperation and is only further fuels the illegals able to cross both are southern in our northern boulder reporters phoenix unbelievable is in the the comes out of the sky smell in the media to run with it and likely going to say to joe biden is his bipartisan bill. i partisan bill, congress woman to think the three republican supported it is negotiated in secret. on the mitch mcconnell, voted against his own bill and what with the joe biden partisan bill with duncan illegal immigration. >> further fueled of the fire and had open up the floodgates for more illegal immigrants two-point in this country and it would not have ended catch and release them he would not reinstated remain in mexico policy, we help what is secure border looks like helsley president trump s effective border security policies the most secure border in my lifetime and that s why house republicans opposed this pro- amnesty negotiation behind closed doors of the joe biden politically wanted to bail him out to cover up for this border crisis that he has created and of famer coming up onto the border for the southern and northern border center represent the temporal northern border, we ve seen illegal crossings, skyrocketed or joe biden is failed leadership including those on the terror partially synthesis of national security prices and economic crisis, and is a constitutional crisis because if you do not have orders from you lose your sovereignty as a nation as of this is an issue house republicans avoided were not and would reelect president trump continue to grow the house republican majority the senate and we will make sure that in addition of trumps executive orders from the we get secure the border step signed into law. mark: you know, some of the difficulty accusing the menino law i keep saying, the system is broken. first of all, what kind of law when they support, another would enshrine as you point out, open borders illegal immigration, slavery and could sold into slavery in the door-to-door darn thing about it in your — acer to think about number two, to make it count on the number of women were sold into slavery encounter the number of children now were sold to pornographers and we keep him, have any of this and i noticed that very interest of keeping count of goes on in the middle east the israelis and palestinians. do we keep count of the amount of may have in the anarchy and humanity going on in the southern border as a result of this president to make it gets worse even that which you think about it, divided department of homeland security, does not know and is awestruck of nearly 100,000 minors who are in slavery being human trafficked and humanitarian travesty and it is all joe biden s watch. he has created this border crisis lock stock and barrel. the american people point of pulled him accountable you are exactly right of the president trump executive order for you the most secure border in the northern and southern border in our nations history this life the bill that the house republicans vessel strong support despite a very slow majority, we passes secure the border act to enshrine those trump executive orders in the democrats cannot have it both ways. as a first joe biden have the executive authority then they put out a desperate executive order and it is offensive to the market people in the voters because they know the joe biden s executive actions underwent open of the border and is allowed catch and release, and has created this crisis transferring of illegals to places all across the country so it is not just the border states and communities that are infected, it is every state is a border state in every community as a border community and is prices because of joe biden and president trump is going to secure the border come with the help of house republicans and senate republicans to provide safety flown at half a million foreigners in the country. and affirmatively he is has gotten them confronted into the country will move illusion pendant management will recent nothing has changed and that is the truth, nothing changeable we come back, what is it with joe biden in his hate pretty israelis in the state of israel. the few people to never speak to the net — there and what is it about him and his embrace of iran and funding the enemy and we will be right back. (tony hawk) skating for over 45 years has taken a toll on my body. i take qunol turmeric because it helps with healthy joints and inflammation support. why qunol? it has superior absorption compared to regular turmeric. qunol. the brand i trust. mark: welcome to fox news likein israel celebrating up to the countries military skewed hostages from central gaza and the musk enough them from music festival, october 7th them up finally back home in israel, said to be in good health and a rescue mission though, coming at a heavy cost of the palestinian side and heavy explosions and fighting could be hurt as the idea carried out that during daytime operation pretty hamas run health ministry said the more than 200 palestinians were killed fox news cannot independently confirm that number and it is the third time israel s military has successfully rescued hostages in the months long war. at least 1120 hostages remain in gaza. meantime crime minister benjamin netanyahu urging is really work out a member, not too quizzical illusion come he was expected to resign today over benjamin netanyahu handling of the war i m john scott is now back to life, liberty & levin. >> c1 welcome back america, were here with the least release still phonic, and if i were somebody who wanted to undermine israel, prevent them from winning a war and surely cannot survive the two state solution know the rest that would got joe biden s demand but what is this problem. >> will that is anti-semitism and that is a growing strain today s different party, that is not become a stream and is anti- israel every opportunity, joe biden has equivocated for la and turned his back on his route for adams honor to be invited by the speaker these really because the speaker robotic about to deliver remarks about the importance of the united states standing with israel and this the same week of the joe biden attempted and is still withholding military eight that congress passed in support of her most precious la the middle east, you have an administration that s obama, 2.0 prioritizing iran and hundred biting israel created chaos national security, threats or the world because of joe biden s weakness on the world stage. mark: quickly, to your knowledge, you said in the armed services committee what is this administration pivoting run from getting a nuclear weapon and then we read the papers this is ministration is leaning on france and the uk. not to review give ron, for his nuclear program and when you make of that. >> what to make of it is a continuation of the obama administration including some of the same individuals who are at the table in terms of these discussions others working through european countries summative pave the way for iranian nuclear weapons capability remember back of this is the same administration in the same state department, that put out an official statement, the loss of the iranian president you what the iranian people who had been abused by the iranian president said the regime and they did not mourn the loss of the president yet this is the same administration who is turning their back on israel. his obama 2.0 with failure and birth that to the historic achievements the middle east to president trump with received records or the recognizing jerusalem as the eternal capitol moving u.s. embassy there and we had peace in the middle east under president trump voters know they going to the polls is november c1 appointment quickly to another subject, this chamber that the placement headed. mark: and i believe you filed an ethics complaint against dissecting cho. >> yes multiple ethics complaints and this is shredding our democracy and the mainstream media depress accused of the right but it is really the depressed attacking our democracy and retake the judge into the near pay for this was like the case taken up by alvin bragg a corrupt prosecutor releasing by criminals on extremes is what we have five crisis in new york judge who donated to joe biden and his family members are profiting to the tens of tens of millions of dollars and raising money for the rest like adam schiff and joe biden, because of this trial and so this is a political witchhunt, the jury shopped as well asking the members with a folded donald trump tells me that did the best that the fold invited the american people know that this was rigged from the start and is in the front to us president trump is correct the real verdict will be rendered is november on election day president trump wins overwhelmingly and i also think any of the fact that president trump is within six points have a traditionally blue state means that momentum is moving in our direction because people see this for what it is that they can go up to president trump on political opponents they can go after any american c1 just me speaking about i m pleased is what i m reading a newspaper some of that you are potentially under consideration is running mate to donald trump and i just think you are great and think you very much, keep up the fine god flesh you my friend. >> thank you. mark: we will be right back. to target tough pain at the source. for up to 8 hours of powerful relief. new advil targeted relief. we re here with chris counahan of our local leaffilter. so chris, tell us how leaffilter is different from every other gutter protection on the market. with leaffilters, patented filter technology, there are no gaps, no openings, no place for debris to get in at all. and we install leaffilter on your existing gutters. it s a permanent solution. you ll never have to climb a ladder to clean out your gutters again. that s amazing, chris. tell me about the process. simple and easy. just give us a call, set up an appointment. we ll come out and give you a free gutter inspection. if they re sagging, we ll repair them. if they re broken, we ll replace them. if they re in good shape, our local team will install leaffilter in as little as a few hours. wow. and i understand you guys 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what is it that you re telling the judge. steve: thank you so what we are telling the judges jack smith was unconstitutionally appointed. the justice department claims that he is what is called an inferior officer under the constitution. in the appointment because of article two, set the congress may by law thus the home point met of such inferior officers as they think proper, and the president alone in the course of law or in the heads of departments and we have reviewed the organic statutes of the justice department and of agriculture education, hhs, and transportation. it s quite clear from the statutes that congress has given the secretary of agriculture, education and hhs, and transportation, the power to avoid inferior officers in congress has not by statute given the power to the attorney general worried and so jack smith is acting illegally, and everything that he is doing is no and void and has been all avoid since he was appointed, two years ago. and we think that judge elaine canada florida great hero anand a champion of the rolloff, one of the best federal district court judges in this country, should dismiss the indictment jack smith has brought against donald trump because jack smith was on constitutionally appointed. >> we know steve come of all of the people of the attorney general chosen, constitutionally, the goodby individuals already gone through the confirmation process of the united states senate has compelled the appointments clause of the constitution is there for a reason. it would pick jack smith and somebody was a lawyer, who has not been approved by the senate invited the framers of the constitution when a role for congress specifically this tendency, and the appointment of these top powerful positions in the executive branch. steve: will market originally congress thought of giving the appointment and power to congress alone and only later undecided issuer between the president and the senate but they felt that it was crucial that there be a check on presidential appointment powers of the presidents notify people who bad moral character or tainted by nepotism or things of that point. in effect, under the constitution, the default method of appointment, is presidential nomination and senatorial confirmation. jack smith is not going through that the provision for inferior officers, was added originally simply for clerks and people perform on policymaking jobs and of the course of her hundred 34 years of history, the number of principal officers who are nominated by the president and confirmed by the senate, has shrunk a number of inferior officers have grown vastly and actually the prosecutors, former attorney general of objects in a famous attorneys, emphasized why this is incredibly important with his accusers attorney general robert jackson went on to become supreme court justice robert jackson, nürnberg prosecutor, robert jackson, said because of the immense power to strike is citizens, not with me her usual strength, but with all the force of government and the federal sphere, from the beginning, the safeguard presidential appointment confirmation of the senate has been imposed your this required to win an expression of confidence in your character about the legislative and executive branches of the government before assuming the awesome responsibility that federal prosecutor suet know when we return professor, my question to you is this, is not smith, the most powerful prosecutor right now on the face of the united states, with massive resources and massive personnel, massive authority involving the future election of this country and with these incredible constitutional issues that he is raising and if anybody should this individual have been facing a nomination confirmation process, so somebody other than the attorney general of the united states at some of ability to oversee wittiest doing it we will be right back. 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(♪) at evernorth, we combine medical and pharmacy data with behavioral health data to identify members in need of care. predicting and treating behavioral health issues quickly... while lowering costs for plan sponsors and members. that s wonder made possible. evernorth health services mark: welcome back americaprofe3 u.s. attorneys, and is jack smith not more powerful, then any of the 93 u.s. attorneys who went to the confirmation process under the constitution. steve: he is more powerful than any of the three u.s. attorneys with the confirmation process under the constitution. and if the attorney general were right, if he could appoint special counsel jack smith, he could appoint a special counsel in cook county illinois, to investigate corruption there in the senators from illinois would have no check on that. it appointed special counsel in baton rouge, louisiana, to investigate corruption and they would have no check on that there s a reason why the senate insisted on the check of senate confirmation of prosecutors and jack smith, has not been confirmed by the senate. mark: one after another subject we subject we do have a time that is the issue of a common-law or another method, for president trump and his attorneys to make a pathway to the supreme court steps and i will make it clear to them naysayers out there, we can t guarantee the supreme court will to get up and you can t guarantee the supreme court think of anything but even if you have a 10 percent chance and i think that there s bigger chance, the methodologies to do it that are extraordinary under extraordinary circumstances human idea yourself. steve: i have a couple of ideas versatile trumps new york state convictions are completely unconstitutional and in violation of the first amendment protection of freedom of speech. the question is how to get that first amendment claim from a new york trial corporative the supreme court and a couple of ideas i want president trump is equal is: prohibition which is that old common law writ, whereby the court of kings mansion in england, took cases away from the jurisdiction of ecclesiastical courts and the court of equity when they were exercising it improperly and unlawfully. any of the trial court manhattan is unlawfully prosecuting trump for first amendment protected activities of this prohibition is one mechanism, and another mechanism is with the law of the state courts and federal courts, to certify to one another, the federal questions or state questions that need to be answered. the state courts could certainly certified to the supreme court, the first amendment questions in this case. in the prosecutors could also divide the appeal intuitive feel the federal issues and ability state issues an appeal the federal issues more quickly smacking the other methods because i don t believe the prosecutors will do anything that would get it quickly to the supreme court however, there is also original jurisdiction of some of the republican attorney general of the state of new york. let me number of things and interference with their voters and interference with national election interference with federal campaign law that is a direct up to the supreme court but you mentioned the prohibition and there are several what we call common-law ritz prohibition, mandamus, corpus and the point is, the point is, that there are avenues this is not a 70-yard pass, and if that court wasn t picking up somebody else to position and they took bush versus gore they hold the voting x-uppercase-letter taking place there. they permitted the state supreme court and going any further and they said that this is a presidential election we need to address this is a was like the court has not done something like this week before and i would argue this is much worse if they don t address it now, it will get much worse in the future, in 2020 agencies will be all three willing to do whatever they want is stephen calabrese, how i think you and you are a great patriot your brilliant lawyer for a professor and a dear friend and take care of yourself. steve: thank you market is going to be in show. mark: and we will be right back. - it s apparent. not me. - yeah. nice going lou! 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Hello, i m helena humphrey. glad you could join me. four israeli hostages taken by hamas during the october 7th attacks have now been reunited with their families. but israeli forces in gaza killed scores of palestinians in the military operation to free them. israeli special forces raided two locations in nuseirat, in central gaza in broad daylight. one israeli soldier was killed. hamas says more than 200 palestinians were killed in the operation. an israeli military spokesman said there were under 100 palestinian casualties. the eu s top diplomat condemned the israeli raid. the us president has also spoken out at a press conference during his state visit to france. i want to echo president macron s comments welcoming the return of the hostages to theirfamilies in israel. we won t stop working until they are all home. hugo bachega has more from tel aviv. a dramatic rescue and she s free again. 25—year—old noa argamani, captured by hamas on the 7th of october, and taken to gaza, is finally back in israel. she became one of the most well—known faces of this crisis. her kidnapping recorded in this video. today, her ordeal came to an end. this is her, reunited with her dad. translation: please don tl forget that there are another 120 hostages in captivity. we must release them and make every effort in any way to bring them to israel and theirfamilies. by the way, it is my birthday, look what a gift i got. also freed, andrei kozlov, who is 27. shlomi ziv, 40, and almog meirjan, 21. eight months ago, they were in the nova music festival in southern israel when hamas gunmen attacked. more than 360 people were killed here. this morning, the israeli military carried out a raid of the nuseirat refugee camp in central gaza. there were heavy airstrikes. special forces went in. the military said this was a complex operation and based on intelligence information. the four hostages, it said, were found at two separate locations in the heart of the camp and were brought out under fire. israeli forces have been preparing for this rescue mission for weeks. they underwent intensive training. they risked their lives to save the lives of our hostages. if there was relief in israel, the operation meant yet more suffering in gaza. at the al aqsa hospital in nearby deir al—balah, chaos and desperation. doctors struggled to treat all the wounded. many arrived already dead. translation: we were at home. a rocket hit us. _ my two cousins died and my other two cousins were seriously injured. they did nothing. they were sitting at home. the israeli prime minister, benjamin netanyahu, visited the freed hostages in a hospital near tel aviv. he s being urged to reach a ceasefire and hostage release deal with hamas. today s rescue could help lift some of the pressure. our middle east correspondent hugo bachega reporting there. for more, i spoke with hugo a short while ago. good to see you. what more have you been learning about how this operation unfolded 7 the israeli military described this rescue as a special complex operation that happened during the day. there was heavy bombardment by the israeli military. special forces entered the nuseirat refugee camp in central gaza. they said they had been planning the operation for weeks. the military personnel involved in this operation had received special training for this mission. these four hostages were located at two different locations, then rescued by those teams involved in this operation. it seems that it has come at a very high price in terms of palestinian casualties. numbers are still not clear, but two hospitals in the area of this refugee camp in central gaza say that at least 70 people have been killed. so it is obviously a rescue operation that has been celebrated here in israel, but on the palestinian side, the head of the palestinian authority has described it as a bloody massacre. tell us more about that reaction you have been seeing from israel and from gaza, in light of the high civilian death toll that we appear to be seeing from the palestinian side. i think this is obviously going to lead to more criticism of the israeli military. we ve seen that these operations, many of them, by the israeli army result in large numbers of civilian casualties in gaza. but here in israel, obviously there have been celebrations across the country, but here in tel aviv, there was a huge protest with thousands of people who came here to tel aviv, to demand a deal with hamas for the remaining hostages to be freed. this is one of the key questions — what is going to happen with those ceasefire and hostage release negotiations? the israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu has been under pressure to accept a proposal put forward by president biden a week ago — a proposal he described as an israeli proposal. this would see not only the release of the hostages, but would also pave the way for a permanent ceasefire in gaza, which is a contentious point here in israel. we have seen that there has been opposition from many in the country, including some members of the coalition government, including far right ministers itamar ben—gvir and bezalel smotrich, who have threatened to quit the government. if they do so, this could lead to the end of the governing coalition. so this rescue operation has been considered a success by the israeli authorities, and could perhaps change the calculations of the prime minister, who is under pressure from all sides. let s talk more about the pressure prime minister netanyahu has been under. we know benny gantz today was due to hold a press conference. he called it off. how do you read that? does it tell us anything about the stability and the unity of the government? this is very interesting, because this was a deadline imposed by benny gantz. he had demanded a plan by benjamin netanyahu for gaza, and he said if there was no plan, he would quit the government. he has been facing a lot of pressure from members of his own party who say he should return to the opposition. obviously we focus a lot on benny gantz, because he is seen as a possible candidate to be the next prime minister in the next elections in israel. so now he has cancelled this statement. he was widely expected to announce his decision to leave the government. after the rescue operation, the prime minister benjamin netanyahu asked benny gantz to reconsider his decision. so i think there was a fear here that with the decision by benny gantz to leave the government, this could give more power to those radical far right ministers in the government. but it seems that, for now, this crisis has been averted. talking about this rescue operation and having unfolded, and the high civilian death toll we have seen on the palestinian side, ijust want to get your assessment about what you think it means for any potential agreement and success of that ceasefire proposal. yeah, so we know the us secretary of state antony blinken is returning to the region. he will be in egypt, israel, jordan and qatar. i think the idea of this trip is to put more pressure on both israel and hamas for a deal to be reached. i think one of the most contentious points of the plan put forward by president biden was the idea of a permanent ceasefire. so hamas is demanding that any kind of deal leads to a permanent ceasefire. in other words, the end of the war. because they want a guarantee that the israeli military is not going to return to gaza once the hostages are released. and continue with this military operation against the group. and the idea of a permanent ceasefire again is a divisive point in israel. the prime minister has been saying the goals remain the same, and that is to destroy the military capabilities of hamas, the ability of the group to continue to govern gaza, and there has been lots of opposition from some of his allies and from many in this country. so it is a very difficult position for the prime minister, and these negotiations have been extremely difficult as well. the indications are there hasn t been any kind of breakthrough after days of mediated talks between israel and hamas. in the aftermath of the raid, our correspondent rushdi abualouf has been speaking to palestinians in gaza. yeah, i think the people were quite angry about the number of people killed in this rescue operation. some of them, they have told me that hamas should have accepted the ceasefire proposal that had been in the table for quite a long time. and instead of, like, you know, going in and killing people to get the hostages, they could have been released for also an exchange of some of the palestinian prisoners in the israeli jail. some of the people were also expressing their views towards the other side. they were defending hamas and they said what happened is very little comparing to the period of this war, eight months. i mean, one person told me that they managed to rescue four people after four months, and this is very little achievement where they have been defeated many times in very places and hamas was able to kill some of them. so very, you know, they divide palestinian as always. they are always divided about the issue of hamas. many people are supporting what hamas is doing in gaza and they keep defending them. but today we noticed that many, many people in a very rare way were criticising hamas. and one person, he lost his family, as far as i remember, two months ago, in one of the air strikes. he wrote in his facebook and he said, why keeping hostages among a very crowded refugee camp in a market and put all of the people s life in risk? and some went more far and they said those who are sitting in the doha in qatar and controlling our life should go home. joining me is javed ali who served in the national security council of the trump administration and for the fbi. i d like to get your reaction to the release of the hostages and also how this operation unfolded. and also how this operation unfolded-— 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what i can gather. so i think what happened, in the aftermath of the recovery of the hostages from these buildings, as they were coming out, they were taking fire from hamas fighters embedded in the cap, and other civilians around them. and under the idf s rules of engagement, they were approved to right and that s why so many civilians died. talking about the high price it appears civilians have page in all of this, do you think that could jeopardise the peace plan on the table? that might have paid. on the table? that might have aid. ~ .,, . on the table? that might have aid. . ,., on the table? that might have aid. . , ., ., paid. most recent plan, that deal i paid. most recent plan, that deal i think— paid. most recent plan, that deal i think has _ paid. most recent plan, that deal i think has a _ paid. most recent plan, that deal i think has a different l deal i think has a different kind of momentum behind it. even though from the israeli side there has been a successful recovery of four hostages, they were still 110 plus that are not recovered. i think the broader aspects of the deal president biden put forward it to the issue of all the remaining hostages, not just these four. so i m a little less optimistic in the sense that this particular mission in the recovery of these hostages, i don t think it s going to add that much to the potential for it s going to add that much to the potentialfor a it s going to add that much to the potential for a ceasefire. i think there are a lot of other variables in play. i “ust wonder where i other variables in play. i “ust wonder where you i other variables in play. i “ust wonder where you think h other variables in play. ijust wonder where you think this | wonder where you think this puts the united states. europe s top diplomats condemned the operation. someone at the eu call it a massacre and that operations like this should unfold. washington is reported to have given intelligence to support it. where do you think that puts the us on the world stage? with respect to this particular operation, based on the media reports, it sounds like the us knew about it and supported the idf with intelligence about the locations of the hostages and the has units, the features of the has units, the features of the buildings that had to be assaulted. so i don t think the us is going to denounce this particular operation, despite the high number of civilian casualties, because the us apparently had a role in supporting it, but getting back to my earlier point... the fact there were so many civilians in this camp and there were hamas fighters in it who were firing on the idf forces as the hostage were coming out of the building, underthe hostage were coming out of the building, under the rules of engagement, they were allowed to take those strikes. so i think we will continue to see this type of high number of civilian casualties if there are other attempted hostage rescue operations like the one we just saw. i rescue 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met, he would withdraw politically and that would damage the coalition that prime minister netanyahu operates minister neta nyahu operates under. minister netanyahu operates under. the fact he has now not given this press conference, and perhaps this was a way of prime minister netanyahu calling the bluff on the withdrawal from the coalition... we ve also seen that the coalition is very fragile for prime minister netanyahu, and he has pressure on one side from people like benny gantz, and on the other sand there side, the far right end of the political spectrum, there were members of the coalition who vowed that unless israel continues on the path to what they claim is total victory against hamas, they are going to withdraw their support. —— on the other side, the far right. so there is pressure on all sides for prime minister netanyahu.— minister netanyahu. javed ali, x will be us. _ minister netanyahu. javed ali, x will be us. -- _ minister netanyahu. javed ali, x will be us. -- thank- minister netanyahu. javed ali, x will be us. -- thank you - minister netanyahu. javed ali, x will be us. -- thank you for. x will be us. —— thank you for with us. president biden has been hosted for a state dinner in france as a commemoration of the d—day landings. there was a parade at the champs—elysees. they held a press conference on saturday and during his speech, president biden also spoke about the war in ukraine, saying the russian president vladimir putin is not going to stop at ukraine. our two countries stand with the ukrainian people as they fight off putin s brutal aggression. yesterday i announced $225 million of assistance to ukraine, the sixth package since we signed the national security legislation earlier this year. i wish we could have done it when we wanted, six months earlier, but we got it done. $61 billion in additional aid to ukraine. and i commend france and our european allies for their leadership as well. the eu has provided over $107 billion in assistance to ukraine since the war began. because we know what happens if putin succeeds in subjugating ukraine. and we won t... you know, putin won t stop at ukraine. it s notjust ukraine, it s about much more than ukraine. all of europe will be threatened. we re not going let that happen. the us is standing strong with ukraine, with our allies, and with france. we will not walk away — i say again, we will not walk away. in the uk, parties are back on the campaign trail following last night s seven—way debate. the conservatives are pushing a permanent cut to stamp duty and labour is outlining its position on business rates. i lljust try and get the sign in! rishi sunak was putting a brave face on the events of the past few days. is this taking over from those fidget spinners? he was keen to move on from his d—day apology with an announcement to make temporary tax relief for first—time homeowners permanent. but his ministers were still having to fight on the political beaches... the prime minister has made a mistake, he s apologised for it and has apologised to those who would have been particularly hurt by it. so how has the prime minister s misstep gone down on the doorstep? we have been talking to conservative candidates, some have spoken about anger and disappointment. one of them despairingly said, whatever is going to happen next? will the prime minister s trousers fall down? others said voters haven t raised the issue at all, and one candidate said that those who are so vexed by this have already defected to labour or reform. elections are often about political theatre, but the snp say, in this campaign, the main westminster parties are sidestepping difficult decisions. the biggest issue that s not been spoken about is the fact there are £18 billion worth of cuts agreed to by the conservatives and endorsed by the labour party, and they are coming down the track towards us. but what about raising revenue? labour say, if they form the next government, then, just like the conservatives, they won t be able to increase tax thresholds in line with inflation any time soon. we will inherit the _ government s spending plans. i will be candid — there - are in those plans tax rises. i mean, the personal allowance, the personal allowance we all. get in terms of our income tax, that is set to be frozen - for several years. but the lib dems are courting voters with spending pledges, including a multi—billion—pound plan to plant 60 million trees a year. this is a capital investment over the next five years. you re right — it is a significant investment. but i believe this is hugely important for our environment. it will help the fight against climate change. the main parties are preparing to launch their manifestos this week. only then will we know how well their policies will connect with the voters. iain watson, bbc news. the wife of the missing tv presenter michael mosley says his family refuses to lose hope, and the last few days have been unbearable . joe inwood has the latest. just a few hours working on the hills of symi is enough to leave you exhausted. two hours. two hours? that is why there is such concern that michael mosley may still be up here after more than three days. the major search operation to find the missing broadcaster has today focused on the hills to the north of the village of pedi. so that search and rescue helicopter has been circling for maybe half an hour or so. there s been a huge amount of emergency services activity focused on those hills, and that s because we know from cctv taken at this spot that, on wednesday at about 1:30pm, two o clock, michael mosley passed this road and headed into those hills. the search is focusing on the hills because, finally, a picture has emerged of michael mosley s movements. he left the beach where he d been with his wife, clare, at about 1:30 on wednesday. he was then picked up on a camera at a coffee shop here. a second one at a restaurant here, and then, finally, the one at the marina, before he is thought to have headed into the hills. the disappearance of michael mosley has been a major story in greece. here on symi, locals have even joined the search, as have british holiday—makers. this morning, she came in my room and said, let s go and look for michael. it would have been terrible. we know the paths, so we... we re just staying there. we re within 2km of where he s got to be, so it was, feeling quite helpless. at the heart of this is not just michael mosley, but his family as well. today, his wife clare released a statement... nor, it seems, will the greek authorities. they say they will continue their search until michael mosley is found. an american veteran who flew back to france for the d—day celebrations got married near the beaches where the allies landed 80 years ago. harold terens, who is 100 years old, married his 96—year—old fiancee, jeanne swerlin, in the small town of carentan—les—marais. mr terens was a radio technician, who assisted fighter pilots in the skies over normandy and called their wedding day the best one of his life. stay with us on bbc news. hello there. it s been a pretty decent start to the weekend. there was a good deal of sunshine around across most of the country. a bit of cloud here and there, a few showers mostly in the north. part two of the weekend doesn t look quite as good. it will start certainly quite chilly. but we ve got a couple of weather fronts pushing down from the north—west that will increase cloud through the day with some splashes of rain. and we ve got this weather front approaching the north—west of the country to move through this evening. showers merging together to produce longer spells of rain for the north and west of scotland. so unsettled, breezy, showery in the north, turning cloudier for northern ireland, but clearer skies for large parts of england and wales with lighter winds here. so it will turn chilly for most, single digits, i think, for the majority of the country. but with more cloud across northern ireland, we will fall to around ten degrees in belfast. so sunday, then, we ve got low pressure still towards the norwegian sea there, bringing northern—westerly winds into the country. we start to have quite a bit of sunshine. scotland, england and wales, cloudy skies for northern ireland, south—west scotland in towards north—west england, north wales. and that cloud with splashes of rain will spill south—eastwards through the day. so it will turn cloudy across much of england and wales, probably the best of the sunshine across the far south—west, and the northern half of scotland doing pretty well with sunny spells. but there will be blustery showers here and a cooler day to come, i think, because of more cloud around, temperatures of about 12 to 17 degrees. as we move through sunday night, that area of rain splashes across the irish sea into much of england and wales, becomes confined to southern and eastern areas by the end of the night. so where we have the cloud and the rain, then, a less cold night here, 10 to 12 degrees under clearer skies. further north, it will turn chilly. we start to pick up a northerly wind as we move into monday. that rain slowly clears away from the south and east. it may take a while to clear the east of england. eventually it will do that. it s a bright day for most, sunshine and showers. most of these across the northern half of scotland, where they will be quite blustery and a chilly northerly wind at that. temperatures, 10 to 1a degrees in the north, 15 to 17 further south, giving some sunny spells. and we hold on to this chilly northerly wind through tuesday, even into wednesday as well. and before low pressure starts to move in from the south—west, that ll cut off the chilly northerly and temperatures will slowly recover towards the end of the week. but it s going to be a fairly unsettled and a cool week to come with a little bit of sunshine here and there. this is bbc news. we will have the headlines for you at the top of the hour, which is straight after this programme. the european union. a50 million people in 27 countries. la president! uniting nations, languages, cultures and economies into the world s biggest trading bloc, and a hugely important political voice on the global stage. but it has its problems, and among its members, there are very different opinions. this weekend, citizens across the bloc will elect members of the european parliament. who will shape the eu, as it faces defining challenges. so what are the issues driving this election? and what s foremost in people s minds as they head to the ballot boxes? welcome to europe votes 202a. hello and welcome from sunny lisbon, where we are coming to you from today. i m mark lowen, one of the bbc s europe correspondents. and over the course of this programme, we will bring new reports from across the continent as the election gets under way. but first, what s it all about? elections to the european parliament take place every five years. it s the only directly elected institution of the european union. shaping the bloc s policies, legislation and budgets. voting happens by proportional representation. each country gets a number of members of the european parliament, or meps, relative to its size.
Witnessed two very different realities, regardless of how you view these last few months of death and destruction, what transpired if the city raises a series of questions regarding a collective failure to end the war to bring all the hostages home and to stop the indiscriminate large-scale killing of palestinians. saturday over 200 palestinians were killed in israel on a refugee camp according to the government media office marking one of the bloodiest single days we have witnessed in eight months of war. videos of the aftermath show streets littered with debris and dead bodies, some images to disturbing that we can t even show you on screen. one witness described the scene to reuters by saying, quote, it was like a poor movie but this was a real massacre, bombs rained down on nusirat, israeli security forces were conducting a raid in the same area, after the strike, francesca alba knees, the repertoire condemns the mission saying that although she was relieved that four hostages have been released, it should not have come at the expense of 200 palestinians, she called it quote, humanitarian, flaws at another level. today s raid marks the third is really rescue attempt since october seventh. they said a hostage was brought home in the immediate aftermath of the attack. two more men were rescued after forces stormed an apartment in the area and those airstrikes also killed more than 60 palestinians including women and children according to local officials. we cannot forget three is really hostages were killed by the israeli military back in december and that happened after soldiers mistakenly identified them as a threat and opened fire on them despite the fact that they were waving white flags. so for the vast majority of israeli hostages have been released through temporary cease-fires, not wanton destruction and killing of palestinians likely witnessed today. the successful rescue missions few and far between and taking massive tolls on civilians. how many innocent palestinians killed is acceptable to rescue is really hostages especially since more than 100 hostages are still the leaf to be held by hamas and their families also want to see their loved ones home safely. family members of the hostages have been adamant that the only way to return all of those being held by hamas is through a cease-fire deal. however a cease-fire deal remains elusive with some powerful cabinet ministers rejecting any such efforts. the israeli prime minister is now using today s operation to try to ease mounting political pressure on him to resign urging one of his rivals and members of the cabinet who is reported to be quitting, to now reconsider and today may be another test for biden who has pushed for a cease-fire deal and may find the newly emboldened prime minister is inclined to defy the american president just to prolong this war to the detriment of the remaining hostages in palestine. we will follow the story and bring you any news as it develops. from silicon valley to the halls of congress, this week we learned cancel culture is alive and well and some would argue, it s surging and in this country and its targets share one thing in common, we start in the tech world where a software engineer sued mehta, a former employee is now alleging that mehta discriminated against him and unlawfully filed them after he filed complaints that the company was censoring palestinian creators. the complaint says he was simply doing his job since his role including assessing the quality of testing filters as it related to gaza and ukraine. shortly after the piece went live the long reviews website was shut down, according to the publication student editors, they solicited the peace and they followed all of the normal publishing protocols however they say they were then pressured by the board of directors to hold publication of this academic article which accuses israel of committing genocide and upholding an apartheid regime, when the editors refuse the request, the board made up a faculty and alumni from the law school and they shut it down. meanwhile in the west coast, in an industry that has a troubling history when it comes to blacklists, a prominent marketing executive is raising eyebrows over a memo she sent to her staff, ashley margolis, told employees that they should, quote, pause on working with any celebrity or influencer or taste maker posting against israel. according to variety the firm works with many top talent and public relations agency and noted that margolis was particularly adamant about not working with anyone who has used the term genocide to describe israel s actions. margolis declined to comment, taking together, these stories show the high price that is levied by those who are speaking out no matter what field you are in or how accomplished you are in the field, talking about the devastation in gaza could cost you. this stands in contrast with another story from this week, the new york times revealed that the government has been waging a secret influence campaign targeting u.s. lawmakers since october, the campaign used fake accounts and websites to spread content and mainly targeted lack lawmakers. on one hand we have palestinian voices or those who speak up for palestinians fired, cancer, demoted, marginalized or shut down and on the other we have the israeli government, secretly spending millions to amplify their message to the world and this and balance in power, this skewing of the public discourse comes to mind, when you consider this, the israeli prime minister will be coming to washington to address a joint session of congress on july 24th, invited by a bipartisan group of congressional leaders including senator schumer who took to the floor of congress to denounce the prime minister calling him an obstacle to peace and alleging that he s been placing his personal survival ahead of his nation s interest. now, and what amounts to a political win for benjamin netanyahu, congress will be welcoming him with open arms. remember, this is the same man who addressed a joint session of congress back in 2015 for the sole purpose of subverting the nuclear deal that obama and then his vice president joe biden, were negotiating with iran at this. this is a man who has a history of meddling in domestic american politics attempting to tip the scales in elections towards republicans including trump back in 2016 and now this is a man for whom the international criminal court is seeking an arrest warrant for war crimes and the international court of justice possibly believes is committing a genocide in gaza. you may be wondering how it s possible that after all that we have witnessed someone like prime minister benjamin netanyahu is getting the red carpet treatment in washington. when the debate in this country and on this issue is so skewed in favor of one side and voices of dissent are stifled, we end up with an alleged war criminal to be welcomed with open arms by our elected officials to the heart of american political power. this case that you find yourself in, and i believe there is an update, the student editors at columbia law review who have been battling with the say that your piece is up on the website, it s titled as a legal concept. tell me briefly, what was so controversial about this piece that you wrote these things? >> thank you for having me, i can t sit here in good conscience and talk about my piece as if this was the focal point, here especially today as you reported over 200 people in gaza were slaughtered in the refugee camp. and there is a continuum between the material reality and gaza, the genocide and the silencing of palestinian voices specifically in the u.s. this attempts to silence in this case my voice but other voices, it s a reflection of dissent that s intended to manufacture consent, now, as for the article itself, the board of directors have attached a disclaimer or a statement basically on the home page of the columbia law review, trying to undermine the peace, allegations that were refuted by the student editors and in fact, the editors of the columbia law review have announced a strike so they are striking to protest the boards statement, to protest their infringement of the process and guarantee academic freedom and independence. >> you think what has happened here, what was done to your piece was meant to be a chilling effect for other you know, academics like yourself who want to advance legal concepts surrounding the rights of palestinians. >> i asked the same question, i think what is so scary about it, it s a scholarly piece, well substantiated and the fact that the board could not -- >> did they tell you any reason why, in either case did anyone come to you and say here is what we find problematic with your scholarship? >> in this case the board of directors shut down the website and they didn t even contact me up until today. so i haven t officially heard from them. i think it speaks more to their sloppy manner with which they are handling the situation. up until today they could not cite any claims against the peace, we worked on this for over six months editing back and forth and i think it s extensive and i m grateful for the student enters for the work and the professionalism that they extended. >> shamir, i wanted to talk to you about what you and your client are going through and what you are alleging, can you walk me through the allegations that you and your client are making on behalf of what you are charging meadow with? >> my client was a coveted software engineer, he was recruited by facebook at meta and he noticed that the account had irregularities, so he started looking into that account and he was told to immediately stop and within a few weeks, he was terminated simply because they said that he might have known, and what s absurd is he has not met with, and the sole basis for the rationale was because my client is palestinian, they must know each other. now apply the same process for any other minority group, it would be the equivalent of firing and african american engineer for trying to fix an issue with for example beyonci s account simply because they are both african american, that is literally their basis, he received excellent performance reviews for every year he was at meta and applauded for going above and beyond, and they simply fired him because they said he is palestinian and he shouldn t be looking at irregularities of another individual whose also palestinian. >> this is the first time meta has been accused of censoring palestinian voices. what have you learned about the company during this process, do you believe there was based on what you ve been able to learn, a systemic suppression of palestinian voices or do you think they were certain singularly targeting your client. >> let me provide you one anecdote. i recently learned that meta had an employer reece s fair where the muslim group had watermelons as decorations, and their booth was shut down, even though the flyer for the event itself had watermelons, because it s a summer event. that is the level of silencing that is going on for data employees, i ve heard from a number of current employees, a lot of investigations and another anecdote, they launched hr investigations for employees simply having the palestinian flag in their bio despite other employees having the israeli or ukrainian flags and their bio, this is targeted towards palestinians and these efforts at silencing them are having ripple effects for the palestinians who are still at meta and the purpose of our lawsuit is twofold, one, we want the employees who are still at meta to know that we support them and number 2, we want to send a clear message to meta, we are not afraid of you and you will not silence us. >> can you tell us about how your client is doing, given all the turmoil that he s had to endure as a result? >> he is extremely courageous, his name has been all over the media, and i think he is just one of many individuals but he is an individual who decided to speak up despite any ramifications, he s doing okay right now but his primary concern is for his former colleagues who are still at meta and have to deal with these issues on a daily basis. >> let me ask you about the double standards, when you see what is happening to you and when you hear allegedly, what s happening to, and you see the prime minister of israel getting the red carpet treatment into the halls of power, what, how, how do you reconcile this? >> you know i think it speaks more, for example, in the case of the columbia review, it speaks more on the board of directors, it s embarrassing on their behalf and i think it s shameful and you know, it exposes that fear in this country and i m proud to speak up and i m proud of my scholarship and i encourage everybody, whatever privilege they have to use this privilege to speak up. these are the times to silence palestinians and 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>> thank you for having me, i m excited to be on here with kimberly, i use the statistic that even with my harvard undergrad and my degrees, as a black woman and i am several times more likely to die of childbirth complications than a white woman with a high school education. that is how deeply embedded systemic racism is in this country and i m so glad the commonwealth research report exposed what the solutions are that we need, there are other high income countries that have you know more midwives and have paid family leave and so when i was giving birth to my children, i was so worried, i was scared because of those statistics because i knew that i profession, my level of education, i income, was not protective. >> kimberly, you cofounded kindred space, addressing the black maternal health crisis, can you talk about why postpartum care is actually so important and why it is being overlooked, nearly 2 out of three maternal deaths and the u.s. occurred during the postpartum period up to 42 days after birth. >> right, well thank you for having me here and thank you dr. blackstock for inviting me as well and thank you for talking about postpartum care because i think that people only about complications that can happen with pregnancy and in birth, but as soon as you give birth to a baby you are in your postpartum, and complications can happen immediately in the postpartum or further out when the patient has already been discharged and are at home. and one of the reasons why these complications are so problematic is because we don t have a very good structure in this country to take care of women postpartum, most people will be seen one time by their physician at about six weeks postpartum and unfortunately between birth and six weeks postpartum, there are many things that can arise including preeclampsia, that can present itself in the postpartum period as well as hemorrhaging, that can happen in the immediate postpartum but can also happen when a patient is already home and if she doesn t have access to care, she could die and that is what is happening, and i ve kindred space l.a., one of the things that we have done is to make sure that we had frequent check ins with our clients and we are able to do that because we are not following the insurance company s motto that says we are only going to pay for one visit, and this is part of the reason people don t get seymour often is because folks aren t able to get paid for seeing patients more frequently. >> let me pick up on that, dr. blackstock. what do you see as other core factors contributing to this lack maternal health crisis. there s a variety of issues that we have identified among them shortages in ob/gyn s but the broader usl care system where it s not accessible or guaranteed by any means, the commonwealth fund report mentions all high income countries it reviewed the sides the u.s. mandate at least 14 weeks of paid maternity leave from work, so it seems to be a total problem on many levels, is that correct? >> yeah these are systemic issues, policies we know that other high income countries have, and even the fact that kimberly mentioned, the presence of midwives, a lot of people in the u.s., even myself as a physician, i didn t know about the midwife in the child birthing process, i didn t understand that midwives follow birthing people through the entire lifecycle so this is what i did not learn in medical school in the u.s., the birthing process is very medical eyes and that s because of historical policies that pushed out midwives and centered care on physicians and the more physicians that are involved in the process, the more complications can arise, the more c-sections are likely to happen or other types of invasive procedures, so we need to look toward other countries and see how other countries are having a safer process, as kimberly mentioned, the postpartum support, i only had one single postpartum visit after i gave birth to both my children. that s not enough, we know most of those deaths happen in the postpartum period and for the states that need to expand medicaid, it needs to happen and it needs to be able to cover or than a year postpartum so that birthing people are supported. >> kimberly, i know we were talking about the systemic problems but what do you think needs to be done in order to address and bring an end to this crisis, what is your vision for the kind of healthcare system we currently need and what changes need to be enacted that we can do in the short term to bring the rates down as quickly as possible? >> that s such a great question and i m all about solutions, for me, it was for me to become a midwife, i had midwives for the birth of my children and i knew the care was much more than i was experiencing in mainstream healthcare and to that end, we need more models such as what we have in california, martin luther king community hospital in south l.a. is a great model, they are it with free lead and they take medi-cal and they are accessible and they have wonderful quality care, collaborative care and they are always under threat for closure, again back to the problem of proper insurance reimbursement, even though their outcomes are excellent, at the top of their game for california, the c-section rate is very low, they have problems staying open because the midwifery model isn t well integrated into the insurance system and they are running at a deficit every year, so they resented solutions, the policymakers need to work with these hospitals and keep this care available to people. >> dr. blackstock, final five, we are at a point where we are seeing abortion bans being enacted right now how do you see these crises intersect at some point? >> absolutely, ayman, this is a racial justice issue, the fact that we have these restrictive abortion policies, especially in states where there are already high mortality rates, there already are maternity deserts, meaning there are not enough maternal providers and, we know and a lot of these states, disproportionately people of color are the ones that are seeking abortions, so we need to make sure that we don t see worse rates as a result of these policies and that is something that i know a lot of reproductive justice groups are working on. >> very important conversation, we ve got to do something about it in this country. it is just unacceptable. thank you so much to the both of you. after the break, congressman byron donalds, and dan bishop battle it out for our worst of the week title. t known er, but a treatment can be. keytruda is known to treat cancer, fda-approved for 17 types of cancer. one of those cancers is advanced nonsquamous, non-small cell lung cancer, where keytruda is approved to be used with certain chemotherapies as your first treatment if you do not have an abnormal “egfr” or “alk” gene. keytruda can cause your immune system to attack healthy parts of your body during or after treatment. this may be severe and lead to death. see your doctor right away if you have cough, shortness of breath, chest pain, diarrhea, severe stomach pain, severe nausea or vomiting, headache, light sensitivity, eye problems, irregular heartbeat, extreme tiredness, constipation, dizziness or fainting, changes in appetite, thirst, or urine, confusion, memory problems, muscle pain or weakness, fever, rash, itching, or flushing. there may be other side effects. tell your doctor about all your medical conditions, including immune system problems, if you ve had or plan to have an organ, tissue, or stem cell transplant, received chest radiation or have a nervous system problem. depending on the type of cancer, keytruda may be used alone or in combination with other treatments, and is also being studied in hundreds of clinical trials exploring ways to treat even more types of cancer. it s tru. keytruda from merck. see all the types of cancer keytruda is known for at keytruda.com and ask your doctor if keytruda could be right for you. nothing dims my light like a migraine. with nurtec odt, i found relief. the only migraine medication that helps treat and prevent, all in one. to those with migraine, i see you. for the acute treatment of migraine with or without aura and the preventive treatment of episodic migraine in adults. don t take if allergic to nurtec odt. allergic reactions can occur, even days after using. most common side effects were nausea, indigestion, and stomach pain. it s time we all shine. talk to a healthcare provider about nurtec odt from pfizer. ♪ [suspenseful music] trains. 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>> you put up a tough choice, but i m going to have to go with byron donalds, just for the sheer historiography of what he said like don t get me wrong, both of them are wrong in their framing of this, the ship tried to claim that having a tough jury pool like trump supposedly did in manhattan for his hush money trial is the same as segregation alabama, that s bad, what donalds said was making no sense especially the part that killed me was when he suggested during jim crow, black voters voted more conservatively when a huge part of jim crow was disenfranchising black people from voting at all. so, yeah, i will give it to donalds, because of just how little sense what he said makes. >> who is your pick? >> i will respectfully disagree with my friend hayes, and i agree with this, both are bad, both are despicable but i think donalds made a mistake like i think he could take back what he said. i think he wishes he could take it back because it was stupid to reference jim crow, part of what he was getting at was the rise in out of wedlock births among blacks in america, that s a legitimate interesting discussion but he didn t do that and he threw in jim crow and it just messed up and made everything he said wrong. ayman, bishop meant what he said and in essence, what did bishop say? he said donald trump is being treated every bit as poorly as black americans when black americans were discriminated against, segregated against, lynched and killed and institutional racism and our justice system. he meant it, bishop meant it, and that is atrocious to compared donald trump to that. >> very valid points there, joe, on the meaning of both, let me play for you donalds was on with joy reed, let me play for both of you what he said, listen. >> if a black man, a black father could not protect his wife, his son, or himself from lynching and violence, how is him being in the home team that that is an era that was better for the black family or that we should think of is a good thing. >> first of all joy, i never said it was better for black people in jim crow, i have never said that and my own words say that. >> so, it s remarkable, again, he is still denying that he said black families were better off even though we have the tape . he is the one that invoked jim crow and to joe s point, you know, he could ve said the 40s and 50s if he wanted to make an observation of the social behavior at the time but he decided to invoke jim crow as the reference point, you can talk about the economy and the issues but he decided to use jim crow as the contextual framework for the point that he was trying to make. >> absolutely, and he was trying to put it in the framework, to joe s point, i get that you may believe that donalds was misspeaking when he said jim crow, i take issue with the broader points that he was making as well, the idea that it was specifically johnson and welfare movements to try and help people. part of the reason why there was so much backlash against the welfare programs was because even though they helped white people a lot, there was a movement amongst the right to try and cut funds to welfare programs by convincing white people that it only helped black americans. there were so many things that were happening, divorce rates went up across the board, you have issues dealing with the way that even like the union worked and the way that employment worked in america, the way that you saw the rise of the war on drugs and that breaking up the black family, there are so many points that could have been brought in but donalds did none of that and he leaned on the idea that he leaned on the idea that things were better before. >> don t go anywhere, we ve got a lot more to discuss and we will do a second round of worst of the week and involves a guy named, well, we will tell you about it after the break, stay t with us. non-small cell lung cancer. keytruda may be used with certain chemotherapies before surgery when you have early-stage lung cancer, which can be removed by surgery, and then continued alone after surgery to help prevent your lung cancer from coming back. keytruda can cause your immune system to attack healthy parts of your body during or after treatment. this may be severe and lead to death. see your doctor right away if you have cough, shortness of breath, chest pain, diarrhea, severe stomach pain, severe nausea or vomiting, headache, light sensitivity, eye problems, irregular heartbeat, extreme tiredness, constipation, dizziness or fainting, changes in appetite, thirst, or urine, confusion, memory problems, muscle pain or weakness, fever, rash, itching, or flushing. there may be other side effects. tell your doctor about all your medical conditions, including immune system problems, if you ve had or plan to have an organ, tissue, or stem cell transplant, received chest radiation or have a nervous system problem. keytruda is an immunotherapy and is also being studied in hundreds of clinical trials exploring ways to treat even more types of cancer. it s tru. keytruda from merck. see all the types of cancer keytruda is known for at keytruda.com and ask your doctor if keytruda could be right for you. these days everyone is staring at screens, and watching their spending. good vision is more important than ever, but so is saving. that s why america s best includes a free eye exam when you buy two pairs of glasses for just $79.95. book an exam online today. the virus that causes shingles is sleeping... in 99% of people over 50. and it could strike at any time. think you re not at risk? 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>> man, some hard-hitting stuff right there from dr. phil, my panel is back, joe, i ll start with you, dr. phil fancies himself an expert on mental health and yet he thinks trump is thick-skinned and isn t needy and does not need to be loved, did he get his degree from trump university, that is my question. >> i will avoid the question and i ll just say this, it is impossible, i mean impossible, to conduct a more sycophantic adoring, on your knees, cultish, interview than that. i mean, and, in your earlier clip, dr. phil said, i don t engage in politics. bull crap, that s exactly what he did, he got down on his knees to make donald trump look good. that was pathetic. >> hayes, this was dr. phil going on cnn and i kid you not, he thinks he made progress with convincing trump not to go after his political enemies, watch. >> i think i really made some headway with him that that is not the way to go. i think it s a process, i think he will turn this over and over in his mind and i don t think he will do that. >> i mean, who is this guy kidding? >> it s wild to say that. on several levels. first on the idea that he could get through to trump at all it was supposedly just an interview talking to trump and the idea that in talking to him, he is now less inclined to go after his political enemies, he has said he wanted to do it, we should believe him when he said he wants to go after his political enemies and it downplays, it self aggrandizing him, dr. phil thing i know he said it but i really think i got through to him also, it s funny how many times people who have interviewed trump have tried to be like okay but you don t really want to go after people to you and trump like no i really do. i really do. no, but no, yes, i promise i do and i really think we have to believe him. >> joe, i ve got one more contender, alex jones, the far right conspiracy theorist has agreed to liquidate his assets in order to finally start paying the $1.5 billion he owes in damages to the families of the sandy hook victims who he spread lies about, too little too late? is this important? >> too little too late, he s trash, i ve got to get back to this, hayes said it, look, this is fascism, trump is saying over and over and over, if he is elected he will go after his political enemies, this is fascism and it s embarrassing and dangerous that dr. phil and as hayes said, all of trump s media cheerleaders are trying to talk him off of this, we have to put a spotlight on it. >> how do you explain phil coming out of nowhere trying to get on this action? >> i think he has a new show to promote. we are talking about it. we would not be talking about dr. phil s new show if he had not done something as wild as ring on trump and say i got through to him on not going after his political enemies. tune in next week to see who else i can rehabilitate. unfortunately, it has worked, we re talking about it but only thankfully the context of, why it was such a bad idea. >> was in a bad idea to have him as worst of the week? >> not at all because ayman, it s a serious point, the serious point is trump is threatening to go after his enemies so use the joke that is dr. phil and all the others trying to get him off of it. >> i m not trying to belittle the situation because we laugh during worst of the week, i m trying to say, listen this guy is influential. millions of people watching, trump goes on his show and then just says blatantly that he s going to go after his political enemies and that is dangerous. thank you to the both of you, greatly appreciate it as always and thank you for making time for us at home. join us tomorrow night 7:00 eastern on msnbc, more all-out over the support for israel, major harrison man will join us to talk about his decision to resign from the u.s. army in test over the biden administration s policies in gaza. have a good night. diabetes can serve up a lot of questions. like what is your glucose and can you have more carbs? 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this was on thursday in michigan. on thursday, last week, you might remember something was going on. the country was sort of distracted. every news organization when donald trump had a verdict. the jury found him guilty on all 34 charges. he totally melted down. earning what i think was the headline for the ages from that day. convicted, trump blames judge, jury, and country gone to hell. what a nice man. what a leader. but while that was happening in new york, there was a big surprise in michigan. now, do you remember seeing this tape? this was from right after the 2020 election. it was december 14 of 2020. this really appear today be a crime being committed there on tape. and an important crime. these are republicans in michigan showing up at the door of the state capitol, demanding that they be let inside because they insisted that they were michigan s votes for the electoral college. since december 14th was the day all the states were casting their votes, these guys demanded to be let in to cast michigan s electoral college votes for trump. which is not the way it works because trump lost michigan and biden won. but these republicans were pretending to be the real electors and demanding to be let in. and that police officer stopped them. and he was very polite. he was like, the soul of patience. very kind to them. he was very, very firm with them. >> he is so patient. the electors are here and you re not them. he stops them from what they were going to do. get themselves into the state capitol. that was in 2020. that was the middle of the effort to try to overturn the election results and have trump stay in power though he lost. i say that looked like a crime being committed and an important one because those fake electors have been criminally indicted for what they did there. for conspiracy to commit forgery and election law forgery. the 16 fake trump electors were all charged with those felony counts. and in that criminal case in michigan, there were 11 other people besides the fake electors who were listed as unindicted coconspirators in that same case including former president trump himself and his then lawyer rudy giuliani who has since had his law license removed. the prosecutor described trump s status in the michigan case by saying quote he is a part of the investigation. but he hasn t been charged with a crime yet. hasn t been charged yet. in court proceedings on that criminal case. because there are felony charges pending against the fake electors themselves. last week, there was testimony from that particular police official. the same guy who had to personally bar the door of the state capitol when they were trying to get in. on thursday, while trump was being convicted in his new york criminal case, he, this michigan state police captain now, he was being interviewed by the fbi and by federal prosecutors from washington dc. wait a second. i thought he was testifying in a state case. a state criminal case that has been brought against those fake electors, yes, he was, but he testified he had just been in touch with federal prosecutors and the fbi. so in that michigan fake elector s prosecution, michigan is one of four states where they are pending. prosecutor says he is not charged under michigan law. we find out in surprise testimony that federal prosecutors as of right now, as of thursday, are interviewing people who saw what happened with the attempted overthrow of the election in michigan. there haven t been federal charges brought in michigan. right? trump is already facing federal criminal charges for trying to overthrow the government and stay in power after losing the 2020 election. those charges were brought in dc. but it would appear that federal investigation into that overall matter is still open. if federal prosecutors from dc and the fbi are still investigating and still interviewing people right now. if they are doing so, and according to that police captain s testimony they are, i would guess the fbi and federal prosecutors are still looking into the michigan fake electors matter. there is already the federal criminal indictment against donald trump, maybe these interviews with important figures in this matter in michigan indicates the possibility of a superseding federal indictment. maybe additional charges for the same defendant who has already been charged. trump may be potentially adding more defendants to it. we do not know. but, that michigan state case is still open and ongoing and it is apparently a matter of active investigation by federal prosecutors and the fbi as well. knock me over with a feather right? that was unexpected for me. it is a reminder that things may not unfold the way any of us is expected. and you may think you are sort of running through the tape in this stuff and you look ahead and realize there s a lot more tape and lots more intervals. i mean, who knows how this is going to unfold. and for how long. this is the first former president to ever be criminally indicted. then he got criminally indicted three more times. he was the first former president to face a criminal trial. then he became the first former president ever convicted of a felony. then he was convicted of two felonies, then three, then four, then ultimately 34. he is named as an unindicted coconspirator in the criminal case against arizona republicans who helped try to overthrow the election result ins that state. he is named as an unindicted coconspirator in the case in michigan as well. things are not necessarily going to unfold the way we are expecting. and none of this is over. yes, if trump gets elected in november, that s one thing. but if he loses in november, this is all going to go on for a very long time in lots of different places which is important for us to think about as a country. because we have a legal system that we use for all sorts of things. including for holding people accountable for when they try to overthrow the government. and we have now got not just trump and his most rabid followers, but we have now got a whole republican party that is on the record, deeply and radically invested in delegitimizing the american legal system in the eyes of the american people. which means in practical terms, that the people who end up, it is by choice, sometimes it s not. these people are going to need protecting in an ongoing way. stormy daniels to whom the push money payment was made that was falsely booked in trump s business record which is why he was convicted of 34 felonies. stormy daniel has done her first interview since the verdict. and in that first interview, you can see that she is just, an emotional interview. you can see she is overwhelmed in particular by the revelation though this one trump case is over, this whole thing is never going to be over for her. >> it is not how i feel. it is how i don t feel. i am obviously glad of the verdict. it proves i was telling the truth. that i was not paid for sex. it was not a prostitution job. i was not an escort or a prostitute. but i guess i just thought i would put the bow on the package and it would be all tied up and good. the good part is, i don t have to go to court again because that s never fun. you always feel like you are the bad guy even when you are not. because being on the stand is intimidating with all the jurors looking at you. i m glad some stuff came out in court that i wanted to come out. and it proved like i said, i have been telling the truth the entire time. but at the same time, emotionally, it is not over. it is probably i realize, it is probably never going to be over for me. he has the patience of a saint. and he is brave i think. i know what his life is going to be like in the immediate future. i fear for the jurors as well. i fear for the jurors as well. nbc news reporting that the other main prosecution witness in the trump criminal trial michael cohen has since the verdict had his whole family doxed. people have posted street addresses for his wife and children and other identifying information. nbc news reported in the immediate wake of the verdict, pro trump message boards posted a high volume of violent threats toward the prosecutor and the judge in the new york case including what purported to be the home address of the district attorney alvin bragg and the home addresses for some of the jurors from the case. this is what it is like for people who are part of a legal system. and this is an ongoing thing. this is not going away. there s lots of pending cases against trump. and, these threats and the harassment and intimidation of people who are involved, witnesses, jurors, prosecutors, court personnel. the intimidation campaign against everyone they have involved. they circulated the purported names and photographs of members of the grand jury in fulton county georgia. this year before trump was convicted in march and april. reuters counted at least 152 posts on three pro trump websites. urging the beating or killing of judge merchan or judge mcafee. one january 6th convict who has served his prison sentence taking part in the trump mob attack, he posted on twitter. a noose. it is designed to make the legal system unworkable when it comes to trump. it is designed to make people more willing to participate in the system if trump is involved in the case. they want you to fear for your life and the live of your family. that s the basic idea behind it. right? we are all supposed to be so scared of what he will do. we are supposed to be so scared of how crazy his supporters will go, to be safe, we should let him do whatever he wants. anything that annoys him or holds him back or punishes him for what he has done, they will get so mad and we should be so scared of what he will do. because oh, you wouldn t like them when they re mad. trump was asked about his potentially being sent to prison when he gets sentenced next month. he said this in response. he said quote, i don t know that the public would stand for it. i m not sure the public would stand for it. i think it would be tough for the public to take. at a certain point, there is a breaking point. he is saying you jail me, there will be a breaking point. the public won t stand for it. sounds like a threat right? it is a threat. he wants us all to feel threatened. he makes the same threat all the time. september, 2022 after the fbi served the search warrant, he said i don t know how much more our country will be willing to withstand. two months later, december, 2022, all caps. the people of this country are not going to take it much longer. then he was asked about the possibility of him being criminally indicted. he said i think you will have problems in this country the likes of which we have never seen before. i don t think the people of the united states would stand for it. i this i they would have big problems. i don t think they would stand for it. in march, 2023, he said if he was indicted, it would rain down death and destruction. that he said would be catastrophic for our country. death and destruction if he were indicted. then he was indicted. then, last summer after he was indicted, he was asked about a possible prison sentence. he say theres will be civil war level catastrophic violence if anything happens to him. like an indictment or an arraignment which has happened multiple times. like a conviction which has happened 34 times. every step of the way, he has made the same threat. death and destruction, like nothing the country has ever seen before. it was not actually what they do. it is not actually how the country feels. most people in this country think the verdict was the right thing. the country is not rising up en masse to defend him. the country thinks, he committed crimes and it makes sense he was convicted of them. these threats that if anything happens to him in the legal system, the country won t stand for it and there will be mass violence and there will be blood in the streets and there will be riots. that is not happening. what is happening is his followers are terrorizing individual people. involved in the legal process. and the republican party at the highest level and with almost total uniformity is simultaneously telling the american people that the american legal system is bunk and they shouldn t respect or trust it and republicans at the state level are not just tolerating and trying to get away with election crimes to help trump, criminal election subversion is now being celebrated and rewarded even in places where criminal prosecutions of these folks are ongoing. places like arizona and nevada. fake trump electors are charged with felonies there. but the accused felons have been given new jobs. state representatives to the republican national committee. they have done the same with one of the fake electors in wisconsin. where republicans are trying to recall a state legislative leader who acted with insufficient fervor to overthrough the election results in wisconsin when biden won that state and trump lost. in nevada, two of the states official electors for the 2024 election will be people who are currently under indictment for what they did as fake electors in the last election. in the republican party right now, january 6th defendants are hostages and hero who s will be fully and immediately pardoned. fake electors will be new party leaders. brave souls who said no to the coup. people who democrats and normal people briefly tried to lionize for their bravery. they are rejected. while prosecutors and judges and witnesses and jurors are hounded and threatened daily. this is not something about which you can put your head down and wait it out. because these cases are going to go on and on. but we are in a moment where the burden of intimidation and harassment and threat and violence, the burden of what is going on in the trump movement is terroristic. it is not mass violence. the burden of what is being threatened against our fellow americans is falling disproportionately on on a small number of people. to try to pick them off. in order to intimidate the whole country. there isn t a civil war. there isn t a riot. i was promised there would be riots if trump were convicted. there were no riots. there hasn t even been a good sized trump protest in years. they are not using mass action. they are using targeted harassment and threats toward specific people to try to cow all of us. to make us all scared of anything that holds trump to account and punishes him for committing crimes. so the solution to that is not rocket science. it is not complex. it s like a couple of things fairly obviously. one, we defend more than we have been. the people being intimidated and harassed and threatened, because they are standing in for all of us. we as a country will change our behavior. we will in the words of tim snyder s book, we will advance, we will cower and try to make sure we only do things that make trump happy. because we are so scared of the response. there are individual people who are bearing the brunt of terroristic intimidation by the pro trump movement that is designed to carol all scare all of us. if we don t stand up for those people, it is a self-fulfilling prophesy. they can all be protected. second. we have a report coming up live from michigan where the testimony from the end of last week opened a spotlight on the fact that there might be further federal criminal charges related to the efforts to overthrow the election. we should not cower about the prospect that trump and his supporters will get mad if trump is held to account. yes, they will be mad. more federal charges could be brought. if so, so be it. there is no reason anybody should shy away are the that. more state charges may yet be brought. there are open investigations, not guilty just in michigan, but in some of the other states, they have pronounced trump to be an unindicted coconspirator. they said the investigation is ton going. in more states, there may yet be more state charges. if that is where investigations lead, so be it. no reason anybody should shy from that. we are at a moment when the republican party says the legal system doesn t work. the criminals are the heros. everybody involved in making the legal system work should feel fear for their lives. the country should rain down fire if he faces any more legal consequences. the republican party is wrong about that and trump is wrong about that. our system is strong. and so are we. and so are we. watch me. with cascade platinum plus i have upped my dish game. i just scrape... load... and i m done. in that dishwasher? in that dishwasher. only platinum plus is packed with more dawn to remove up to 100% of grease and food residue. get the highest standard of clean, even in your machine. clean enough for ya? yeah. scrape, load, done. cascade platinum plus. dare to dish differently. it s never a good time for migraine, especially 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>> i think you hit on a couple of them. this is ongoing. the attorney general s staff is trying to figure out what the guidance was that was provided to these 16 electors whose signatures ended up on this certificate claiming donald trump had won michigan 16 elector votes. the investigation is ongoing. there is a federal probe that is ongoing as you mentioned. the key thing here is the attorney general s office has to prove as part of his case to be successful, these individuals had an intent to defraud the public. the question is, did these individuals have that intent? or was someone essentially fooling them into signing this document not letting them know what the true purpose of the document was and turning it around, taking their signatures and doing something different than what they had told them they were going to do? that s the crux of all of this. it is not their attempt at fraud, if it is someone else s, the question is whose was that and why have they not been charged so far? >> right. and to have the state prosecutors in michigan, the investigators say we have these 16 defendants but here are another 11 people unindicted coconspirators including the former president. they are painting a sprawling picture. but the charges haven t necessarily followed all of the all of the allegations. part of the reason i wanted to talk to you, i was surprised by this revelation you reported in court that there appear to be an ongoing federal investigation here. a federal investigation on top of what s going on with the state. do you have any sense from what has been disclosed in court what the contours might be of that federal investigation? >> well, the police captain who revealed this, and everyone in the courtroom was surprised by this. the defense attorneys were surprised. even the judge used the word surprised to talk about this. statement that was made by the michigan police captain all of a sudden out of the blue is kind of a traditional line of questioning. who else have you talked to? and this police captain says oh, i talked to some people yesterday from washington dc. everyone froze for a second. what do you mean you talked to someone from washington dc yesterday? he said that this interview focused on the electors. this was an interview that lasted some amount of time talking about the fake electoral votes that the people brought to the doorstop of the michigan capital on december 14th, 2020. he said that they didn t ask about specific individuals. he had a list of names they asked about this person. it must have been from what i could tell from his testimony, must have been overall what happened when you were at the doorstep. what happened? >> it was fbi, fbi personnel, and federal prosecutors. >> exactly right. >> wow. >> it s amazing. it is important to keep your old tape when you play a tape of something. hold onto it. you never know when the fbi will finally follow up on the crime that you aired on your tv show. craig, you have really helped us and the whole country follow the nitty-gritty of these stories as they have unfolded and they unfold in more and more important ways so we are grateful for you. thank you. >> thank you for having me. >> craig, politics reporter for the detroit news. all right. we ll be right back. stay with us. be right back. stay with us. good vision is more important than ever, but so is saving. that s why america s best includes a free eye exam when you buy two pairs of glasses for just $79.95. book an exam online today. here s to getting better with age. here s to beating these two every thursday. help fuel today with boost high protein, complete nutrition you need... ...without the stuff you don t. so, here s to now. boost. 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Families in san francisco came out to the embarcadero today far foggy bike ride with firefighters and highway patrol officers. the annual sf bike rodeo put on by scouting america. >> and kids learned how to navigate traffic and use bike paths and how to use the proper safety equipment. >> and how to navigate orange cones in the road. that s always important. cbs weekend news is next. that s it for us at 5:00. see you back here at 6:00. >> good night. tonight, a rare day of joy in israel. four israeli hostages rescued alive, a nation and families celebrate eight months after hamas surprise attack amid new bloodshed. >> i m chris livesay in tel aviv where four hostages are finally back home. 120 remain in hamas captivity. also tonight -- president biden on a state visit to france hails israel s risky rescue. >> we won t stop working until all the hostages come home and a cease-fire is reached. >> i m ed o keefe in paris where the president has been honoring veterans and toasting america s oldest ally. former president trump heads west streaking to strike campaign gold in california. we remember apollo 8 astronaut william anders. he took this stunning photo that changed how we see our planet. in wyoming stunning images. officials call this collapse of a teton pass highway a catastrophic failure while a dangerous heat dome scorches the west. when will it end? >> it pretty much feels like you re in an oven. >> we ll have the forecast. and later it s one of the world s most popular sports, but can cricket conquer america? it s game on. >> nice job. nice job, guys. >> announcer: this is the cbs weekend news from washington with adriana diaz. good evening. adriana is off. i m robert costa. a burst of joy and relief in israel tonight after four hostages held by hamas for the last eight months were rescued by israeli forces. the mission to free them took weeks of planning. it brought home four hostage, three men and one woman ranging in age from 21 to 40. news of esi cues prompted a celebration across the country. an aid for hostages called it, quote heroic. president biden added praise for the mission which was bolstered by u.s. intelligence. it happened here in nuseirat in central gaza and was not without bloodshed. dozens of gazans were killed. cbs chris livesay leads us off tonight. >> reporter: good evening, robert. some very rare good news. four hostages are finally back home after spending eight months in hamas captivity. tonight they re okay after what israel is calling the biggest rescue operation since the start of the war. a reunion eight months in the making. four hostages, almog mier, andrey kozlov, and schlom ziv finally back home, each of them taken hostage during the october 7th massacre at the nova music festival. who can forget her screaming don t kill me. now he s reunited with her father and her mother dying from cancer, clinging to the hope of seeing her daughter one last time. almog mier seen leaving this res helicopter was last seen in a hamas propaganda video. at the time his mother told cbs news what seeing that did to her. >> to reflect, i start to shake. >> reporter: today that terror transformed into joy. >> i couldn t stop hugging him. i couldn t stop. and tomorrow is my birthday, so i got my present. >> reporter: almog s friends cheering his return. >> he s strong and he s smiling, and i can t believe he s doing great. and he can speak arabic right now. >> reporter: he learned how to speak arabic? >> yes, he learned how to speak arabic. >> reporter: israel says hamas was widing hostages in two separate residential buildings in densely populated central gaza, rescuing them in a risky operation in broad daylight. sources tell cbs news the mission was conducted with u.s. intelligence support. hamas said over 200 were killed. there s still 120 hostages in gaza. 43 of them have already been declared dead. their bodies still being held by hamas. robert, the message at this rally in tel aviv now more than ever, bring them home now. >> chris livesay, thanks. today president biden welcomed news of the israeli hostages safe rescue and return to their families. the president spoke in paris during today s state visit to france, a day of ceremonies and celebration. cbs ed o keefe is traveling with the president and has the latest. ed, good evening. >> reporter: robert, good evening. france is america s oldest ally, and the two countries are in general greet around some of the world s thorniest issues of the day, which makes visits like this one an opportunity to reinforce the importance of these partnerships. a day of pomp with a formal militaryporosistion through the streets of paris. and tonight a glitzy state dinner at the l.a. state palace including invited guests like pharrell williams and salma hayek. for president biden and french president emmanuel macron news of a hostage mission in gaza bolstered their piece. the israel and france are pushing israel and hamas to agree to a cease-fire hostage deal. on ukraine the leaders are providing some of the strongest support to volodymyr zelenskyy s war against russia. >> we see eye to eye on this war raging in ukraine. >> the united states is standing strong with ukraine, we re standing with our allies, and we re standing with france. >> reporter: it had president on friday announced another $225 million in aid to ukraine. air defense equipment, armored vehicles, and anti-tank weapons. french troops continue training ukrainian soldiers, but macron hasn t ruled out deploying french troops into ukraine, something mr. biden so far, at least, refuses to do. saturday s meetings came after two days of commemoration of d-day, putting the president on the world stage to tout american power and democracy at a time he s concerned about it at home. >> i simply refuse to believe that america s greatness is a thing of the past. >> reporter: and while he hasn t drawn explicit comparisons to likely republican opponent donald trump, mr. biden s re-election campaign has. the president s trip is scheduled to end on sunday with an implicit contrast with trump, a viz toot a cemetery for american soldiers and marines killed in world war i. back in 2018 then-president trump declined to visit the cemetery citing bad weather. but reports later surfaced that he called those buried at the cemetery, quote, losers and suckers. he strongly denied those reports, but his statements president biden has never forgotten. robert? >> ed o keefe in paris, thanks. with president biden in france the man who wants his job has been raising money in california. supporters turned out in orange county today to cheer on former president trump as he wraps up a three-day fund-raising trip mooch he also made a fund-raising stop in beverly hills, and san francisco. trump heads to las vegas tomorrow. the economy remains one of the key issues of the presidential campaign. inflation and credit card delinquencies are up, but so are paychecks and 401k balances. what does that mean for family budgets? cbs michael george on wall street joins us with more. michael? >> reporter: well, robert, all signs are showing a strong econmy, stocks holding steady, low unemployment, a better than expected jobs report, but the nagging issue for a lot of americans, high prices, which is why the perception of the economy may not match the reality. wall street staying strong. the nasdaq, s&p, and dow all up this year and holding near record highs. and the latest jobs report shows the country added more than a quarter of a million jobs last month with unemployment creeping up to 4%. >> the reports of the demise of the labor market has certainly been overstated. >> reporter: cbs news business analyst speaking on saturday morning. >> there s also been evidence that consumers aren t spending quite as much and economic growth is pulling back a little bit. >> reporter: a recent harris poll found more than half of americans think we re in a recession, the reason inflation and the price tags we re seeing for things like food like this farmer s market in biloxi, mississippi. >> right now prices are high that means you have less disposal income. >> reporter: but americans are also making more money. >> wages were up by 4.1% from a year ago. why is that important? the inflation rate right now is at about 3.4% from a year ago. >> reporter: home prices and mortgage rates are still my, but the number of homes for sale is rising sharply. and more good news, gas prices have been dropping heading into the summer. and while consumers may be getting some relief from the federal reserve after that strong jobs report, experts believe its unlikely they ll make any rate cuts at their meeting this week. robert? >> michael george, thanks. tonight transportation foi fo officials in wyoming are scrambling after what s been described at the catastrophic failure of a highway. this is highway 22 after crumbling in a landslide. it connects jackson, wyoming, with victor, idaho. officials say it will take at least a few weeks or more to repair. still in the west dangerously high conditions are forecast for parts of california and the southwest this weekend as a searing heat wave takes a toll, but some relief may be in sight. let s check in with meteorologist andrew kozak at cbs philadelphia. >> numerous record high temperatures. we ve been seeing that this past week. even tonight temperatures are still well above 100, areas like vegas and over toward death valleych we have an excessive heat warning until 9:00. the good news we re going to get a bit of a break by sunday, but by monday into wednesday next week bakersville, fresno and many areas once again looking at triple digit heat. now, the other big story tonight for weather would be that enhanced risk of severe weather, could be looking at some large hail, gusty winds, even an isolated tornado for eastern colorado and western kansas. next week the east coast shares the wealth of the heat where 90s and a chance for storms are going to be up and down the i-95 corridor. >> andrew kozak at cbs philadelphia, thanks. today americans are mourning a space pioneer. apollo astronaut william anders died yesterday. he was the pilot and only occupant of a plane that crashed. he was 90. cbs has more on his life and legacy. >> the elevator ride to the top of the 36-story tall saturn 5 moon. >> reporter: billium anders flew into space just once. it was in 1968 apollo 8, a nerve-wracking trip, the first time humans ever left low earth orbit. >> the farthest away from home he s ever bip before. >> reporter: the quarter million mile flight reached the moon on christmas, and controllers in houston wanted to know what the moon looked like up close. >> it was ironic that we ve done all this work to come and explore the moon and what we really discovered was the earth. >> reporter: it was anders who captured the most famous image ever taken in space, the iconic earth rise, changing forever the way we saw our planet. in 2018 lee gowan of cbs sunday mornings spoke to anders about what he saw and his decision to skirt orders. >> that wasn t in the flight plan, he was right. what the hell was that? 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Geopolitics of the cold war through the lens of two double agents who were pulling the strings behind the scenes threatening, did he stabilize diplomatic efforts? >> all right i always i think the early version, at least from the agency who really had a pretty good understanding of how the kgb worked there are no other the powers our everyday was so for little black he d write these studies. >> everybody would read them and say, oh, that s really great work, rick and then that would. be the end of it. you know, they didn t really send it anywhere and all new episode of secrets and spies, a nucleus and now, the hbo original series, real time with bill maher . ♪ ♪ ♪ how are you doing? how are you doing? thank you very much. i appreciate it. thank you, people. thank you very much. i appreciate it. all right. good to see you. thank you. please, there s so much to get to. oh, wow. i feel great about that. yes, the big news this week is hunter biden s trial. let s get right to that. it led to absolutely fucking nothing, but let s get right to it. i know the republicans -- they are like, if you take down trump, we are going to take down hunter biden and the democrats are like, knock yourself out, we barely care about joe biden. >> [ audience reacts ] >> but, this trial is only about one thing in america which is very important, you cannot mix drugs and guns! seriously, we don t take a lot seriously in this country, but this is one we are very serious about, and hunter biden was buying a gun on crack -- i mean, at the moment, he was literally on crack and buying a gun, he almost had the gun in his hand. so, the prosecutor gets up and says, no one is above the law in this country, it doesn t matter who you are or what your name is and all the republicans stood up and fist pumped and went, yeah. and then they went -- oh, wait. yeah, that s -- [ audience reacts ] that s not what they were saying last week, was it? interesting. in april, they took a survey, 17% of republicans said it was okay -- only 17% -- okay for a felon to be president. now, they took the survey again, 58% said it is okay for a felon to be president. gosh, what happened? usually, to change this drastically in the space of two months, hormones are involved. i -- [ laughter ] but, if hunter biden does get convicted, this will be a historic first. it will be the first time republicans ever objected to somebody buying a gun. >> [ audience reacts ] >> and there was testimony from hallie biden, because she was married to hunter biden s brother, who sadly died, beau biden. and then, hunter went out with her. so, she is the ex-girlfriend and the widow. i know. she is -- she testified that when he was with hunter, she got her into crack, and she is ashamed and embarrassed about that part of her life. really? >> [ audience reacts ] >> you bang your dead husband s brother and the part you are embarrassed about is the crack? okay. but -- >> [ audience reacts ] >> she said she found hunters going at one point, she knew she couldn t have it, so she took it away and threw it away in the supermarket dumpster, perfectly. [ laughter ] so, when hunter throughout -- found out she threw away his gun, he called her insane, called her stupid, said, are you on crack? if you are, can i have some? we all saw this stuff from hunter biden s laptop, right? they did a reality show about hunter biden, it would be called naked and afraid of running out of crack. and it s just -- >> [ audience reacts ] >> and it is just bad optics for the president. the jury is looking at sex tapes of hunter biden and the rest of us are worried about if his father can walk all right. kidding. well, actually, joe was doing the d-day thing. you saw that yesterday? he did very well. i thought he did very well. he was over there commemorating the 80th anniversary of d-day. in america, you know what they did? non-congressman -- oh, gosh -- nine congressman dressed up as military people. world war ii, you know, vintage stuff, and jumped out of a world war ii vintage plane to commemorate d- day. sadly, they were wearing parachutes. >> [ audience reacts ] >> [ laughter ] and george santos -- you know, when i do dress up, you bitches make a whole thing out of it. well, yes, it is pride month again, and the spirit of pride -- >> [ audience reacts ] so, listen to this. this is a pride month story, five dry greens in philadelphia did a children s books reading as they do, made a guinness book of world records for the fastest way to get trump re- elected. >> [ audience reacts ] >> not that there aren t still bigots in this country, but did you see this? this is the head of the colorado republican party sent out an email saying, calling gay people godless horrors, which in california is not even an insult. i get my hair cut at a place called godless groomers. we have a great show. we have matt welch, abigail shrier, but first up, the democratic senator from the great state of pennsylvania, john fetterman! welcome back, it s been too long! >> good to see you. >> welcome back to the show. it s been 13 years. >> it s an honor to be here. i am a fan boy, so -- >> right back at you. i have been badgering my staff for a long time now to get you on this show, and i will tell you why i have been badgering them, and eyeglass -- i guess they badgered you. when i have seen you the last couple of years, you speak so freely. you speak like politicians who i get on this show who aren t in politics anymore, the ones who are out of office, and they can be honest, that is the way you speak now, and it is a beautiful thing. >> [ audience reacts ] >> well, honestly -- and this is true -- you speak for a lot of democrats that are afraid to say a lot of that stuff. it is a lot of release for a lot of democrats who are like, thank god, somebody is actually platforming like that. >> no, i think we are very much on the same page. but, it is very rare -- i don t have to worry about being re- elected, except by the audience. >> [ audience reacts ] >> it is, i think, even more brave for you to do it. the question i want an answer to is, is this connected to some of your health issues? when you have gone through what you have, both physical and mental health issues, does it give you a freedom? like, what can you -- >> yeah, absolutely. there is a line from the first batman, joker is like, i have been dead once already, it is liberating. that is not reckless, that is really just freeing. it is just freeing, in a way. and i think after being all of that, i would just be able to say the things that i really believe in, and not be afraid if there is any kind of blowback. >> and what about mental health in america, at-large? what is the prescription for this? because we are going to talk about it on the show to a degree tonight. it is certainly a big issue in this country. we have, what, 50,000 suicides in the last year? >> absolutely. >> this is an outstanding number, i think. what are your thoughts on this? >> well, actually, after i signed myself in to walter reed to get help, with depression, it is not really a big clinical winter, to talk about depression. and when i started to have that conversation, i realized that if i started to be honest, i have to talk about self-harm, you know, harming myself, because you pointed at the 50,000 americans who took their lives, and i started talking about that and said, hey, i have been in that place. i now tell people, i promise you, i am begging you, please, don t harm yourself. stay in the game. now, i am being contacted by people on the regular saying, hey, thanks to hearing this, i got help, or it even saved my life. i never thought that would resonate and that is why i decided to have that conversation, because i was lucky i got help and got better, and now i want to be the kind of guy that can say something, that could have helped someone like me, who was in that situation. >> [ applause ] >> so, let s talk a little politics here, because that is your game. pennsylvania is going to be -- probably, could be, come down to three states, pennsylvania will definitely be one of them. >> i have always said, pennsylvania picks the president and there really is no legitimate path for the president if he doesn t win, and i believe he will win, actually, because trump was able to flip pennsylvania and that helped deliver his first victory. but, joe biden carried it in 2020 because he has a really strong connection thereto pennsylvania and i believe he will again, but it will be close, and that is the same conversation i have been having with pennsylvania, that it is going to be very close, because trump has a strong connection in pennsylvania and it will be very competitive and all of that. i have also been saying, i don t think that whole trial is going to be anything meaningful with people who have already decided, that is my guy. i will never understand why somebody would say, i love that, or i want four more years of that. but, i do believe joe biden is going to carry pennsylvania and he is going to win. >> [ audience reacts ] >> but, as he was -- as he has not, yet, officially been nominated by the democratic party, is he really the best one to put forward? >> joe biden? >> yeah. >> yeah. he is actually the only american that has ever beat trump in an election, and i do honestly believe that he is actually the only democrat that could win. and let me just say this -- let me just say this, i know it might be provocative -- but the last time there was a hotshit governor with $2 million, thought he was going to beat trump, then trump through him in the wood chipper and he finished third in his own state, in florida. and again, trump is pretty tough, and that is what the republicans want and i can t imagine why -- how he is feeling right now, but trump has a very -- and i do believe joe biden has that ability to win, and we have a great bench. it is a distinct kind of situation right now. >> i m surprised at that, but i will move on. i m sorry, i m not on the same page there, but okay. it is probably going to be joe biden and i will vote for him. but, you mentioned desantis. this is very curious to me, desantis wants to ban fake meat in florida, and you agreed with him. i don t get this? >> really, it is not so much about making it illegal, but it is also just talking about -- i really wanted to stand with american farmers and ranchers, and those kinds of things, and i don t believe it is helpful, and that is the direction i want to move in that. but, if somebody wants to consume that, that is okay. but, i think there are going to be states that are going to decide, i don t want to ban this, or i really want to invent and create that time, so the product stays the same. >> i wouldn t eat it either, quite frankly, but i wouldn t ban it. that is what desantis wants to do, so you can t get it. i thought that was the freedom part of this freedom country. if people want to have fake meat or fake anything, fake tits, fake anything. it is los angeles. >> [ audience reacts ] >> i don t -- yeah, i don t know about that, either, but i don t know if that is going to solve anything other than -- i don t get why that would appeal to anybody. >> you have been very up front about legalizing weed, marijuana. >> yeah, of course. i ve heard that from you, too. >> [ audience reacts ] >> i heard that, john, that is just a character i play on television. never in my life -- look, i heard you once say, or maybe read it, a tweet, you said once, i am not a progressive, i am a democrat. what does that mean? because i don t think i have used the word progressive, i think i have said woke. i know that word triggers a lot of people because it has a great beginning as a meaning, but words migrate and it went to something else. i think there is a difference between an old-school liberal and woke person, you say old- school democrat, how do you describe this? >> look, i agree and i have been saying that for years, actually. i didn t leave the label, it left me on that front. and after that happened on october 7th, i really knew that the whole progressive stack would be blasted apart and they are not going to have anyway for the democrats to reply to that, or respond to that, and i really decided early on that i was going to side with israel throughout all of that, and i knew that democrats would continue to peel away and kind of walk away from standing with israel on that, but that is where i decided -- >> how do you explain that, if you can, that the people who considered themselves the most liberal have abandoned israel -- which was always a liberal drawing -- for the terrorist organization, for the people who outwardly say that they want a genocide, who outwardly are the one side of this who is against the two state solution. so, now that they wound up with then, why do you think that is, and will this split the democratic party? >> well, it does, because there is an appeal there. and you talked about it, last week, you really hit it with the gender apartheid. talking about some of these issues, some of the most progressive and left parts of the democratic party are standing for the kind of side that has organizations like hamas, or these kinds of nations where there are no rights for women and they certainly don t embrace the lgbtq lifestyle, and even in philadelphia, the queers for palestine blocked the pride parade in philadelphia, and i never saw that on the bingo card. but -- >> [ audience reacts ] >> all right, well, it may seem lonely out there sometimes when you are brave like you are, but you have a lot of fans. you have a lot of fans here and a lot of fans all over the country. when i told people you were coming on, a lot of them were really excited that you are here, but they all have one question they wanted me to ask you, which is, what is the deal with the wardrobe? >> [ audience reacts ] >> people are very curious. it doesn t involve me, i m just saying, people are saying, p please ask him. >> last year, i know this, you had a great joke, you really nailed it, you put up a picture of me, you said, she dresses like a guy where the airline lost his luggage. and it s true! it s funny, because it s true. and i know i dress like a slob and i am not making a statement or anything, but, i am into comfort, it is just comfort, and it is kind of like -- i don t have to iron, and -- >> [ audience reacts ] >> but, it is kind of hard to find suits and all of those things. but, i never understood why anybody thought that was interesting. and i want to be clear, i wasn t behind the changing of the dress code or anything, i really wasn t. but, more people seemed more concerned about me wearing a hoodie on the floor, as opposed to, we have senators taking bribes from foreign entities, and -- >> [ audience reacts ] >> but, i m learning. i m learning. i m still a freshman. >> you seem like you are in a really good place. >> oh, well, i m sitting across from a great person. but -- you know, having a near- death experience and going through that kind of a blowtorch of $100 million and attack acts and all of those kinds of things to emerge on a side where i am grateful to be sure, both with you and back with my kids, my family, everything, and i just decided, i really want to be the kind of voice that is consistent, and has a moral clarity on issues that may not be controversial for democrats, but i am not sure why any of that is democrat -- controversial for democrats, whether it is about israel, or the border, or -- >> because people just want to bitch these days, john. everything is controversial to everybody, but you keep doing what you are doing. i appreciate it. >> [ audience reacts ] >> all right. see you again, john fetterman. hi! all right, here is the editor at large at reason magazine, met -- matt welch is back with us. a journalist and author of the new york times best-selling book, bad therapy , abigail shrier. great to see you. okay, so, this is the week where we celebrated the greatest generation saving democracy so we can learn about hunter biden smoking crack. i feel like that has been this week in a nutshell. i feel like this is one of those stories where both sides have a lot of wrong in their handling. i remember when the laptop came out, the left-wing media would not even admit it was a thing, it just had to be a hoax, or it had to be russian disinformation, it just didn t exist. they went right about it, that was wrong. and the right is wrong to pretend it means something, except possibly about joe biden s parenting. the question i want to ask -- because i know your book is about it, you have written about parenting -- okay, why do all of the political families have this fuck-up family dynamic? is it just because they are famous, and if we went into every family that had a billy carter, a roger clinton -- george bush himself was the ne er-do-well. >> since the beginning of time, we have learned that children basically need three things, and these are essential. they need parental authority, they need to hear no, they need independence, and loving community. kids with high profile families often get none of those. no one is willing to tell them no, they don t get independence because they don t want anyone to make them look bad, and they don t have loving community -- they are raised in a political battlefield. unfortunately, too many american kids today also don t have those. >> the way you describe it, it sounds like everyone is from a prominent family, because i read in your book when kids go off to college and they have never heard the word no, or the word wait, then -- >> that s right. kids today are under a microscope, they are under a microscope, literally, because of the projection of social media and whatnot, but also because their parents are so afraid of traumatizing them, they have been told by mental health experts that saying no, can be punishing and traumatizing, so they don t assert their authority. we basically have a generation raised with these kids that are miserable. >> and a link with your d-day tie in, which is that we understood that generation and others, but especially that one, to have a sense of stoicism. like, you are going to go through some bad stuff, you are going to fail, there is going to be unfair things that happen to you. the question is, what are you going to do with that? a 15-year-old and a 9-year-old, they are not teaching a lot of stoicism in the public school system, last time i checked. at some point, she starts to use it as an excuse to get out of chores. like, that is not my journey. >> [ audience reacts ] >> [ laughter ] >> it doesn t make sense to fold the laundry, so they are making fun out of it, but there is something to that. but also, when you think about the greatest generation, they probably could have used a little bit more therapy than they got, right? >> yes, there is a happy medium. you mentioned d-day, but i couldn t help but think of it because the new york times said ptsd among adolescents is surging. ptsd. the fact that we have so -- >> [ audience reacts ] >> my father was in that campaign, he wasn t in omaha beach, but he was on that campaign. anyone who would allow kids to think they have ptsd? >> that s right, they don t have ptsd. kids raised gently in suburbs don t have ptsd. but, combat those -- our combat vets sometimes do have ptsd and they need treatment when they have it. >> always. >> it is real. but, that is not what kids that universities have. what they have, what i call in my book, bad therapy , they have emotional hypochondria. they have focused so much on their own bad feelings that they magnify these feelings, they make them an organizing principle of their lives, then they have trouble escaping them. >> so, here is my thing, we had a reckoning of my sex in 2017, a racial reckoning in 2020. i feel like there is a parenting reckoning coming. a lot of rollback, pushback on gentle parenting. i think people are realizing that this kind of stuff has raised a lot of fucked-up kids who have -- >> [ audience reacts ] >> another statistic, but 49.5% -- so, let s just say half -- of adolescence, at some point have a mental health disorder. so, half of the kids in the country are diagnosable? either they really are that fucked-up, or we are over diagnosing. >> it is the latter. we are way over diagnosing them. this generation has had more mental health intervention in schools, more mental health treatment, 40% of them have been in therapy, they have had therapeutic parenting, and it is making them worse. these kids don t need therapy, they need less therapy, they need to be told, i love you, you will live, now get out of my house and have an adventure. >> [ audience reacts ] >> and it is worth pointing out that this generation, let s say 15 to 22, they got banged up during covid pretty bad and the more you were in places with schools and society bogged down, the more banged up you got, and also that is tied up with social media, and what you are doing on your phone all the time, like john hyde talks about. so, i think there is a legitimate mental health thing going on with teenagers, and especially teenage girls in this country. the question is, are we teaching them to get out of it, and also to have fun, and take some kind of initiative in their lives? or, are we encouraging them to think of themselves as victims? and i hope it is not the latter because you are not going to get much past your 18th birthday walking around and saying that it is somebody else s fault. >> [ audience reacts ] >> so, this is so obvious and we all agree, who is still defending this? >> i think the trauma industry is. >> the trauma industry? right. you are right. >> that is basically what we have now, we have convinced this generation any stress is trauma, now you have a disability and you have to live with that forever, and these kids are behaving like mental patients. >> right. [ laughter ] right. i mean -- and they are medicated, then. that, to me, is when it really goes off the rails, because a lot of them are on whatever psychiatric drugs they put them on. you know, when i think about the two big ones that i see always talked about that are now pathologist, shyness -- which is social anxiety disorder, as we pathologist isaac. and depression -- i mean, that is just being bummed out. my whole adolescence, my whole childhood, past college, was about those two things. i just had tons of both of those things and drugging me would not have helped. i discovered part when i was 19, that drug helped. organically. but, yeah, okay. so, i read about sel, and for those that don t know what this is, this is social emotional learning. this takes front and center -- this explains a lot to me, one, why they are so stupid. because this is the priority above learning, is that right? >> that is right. >> and what is -- obviously, it sounds like it is? >> reportedly, it is supposed to teach kids like things like emotional regulation, which we want them to have. but, how do you teach kids to handle bad emotions? because we are not worried about them having too much joy, we are worried about them having too much sadness, regret, bad feelings, so it always goes negative, it becomes a kind of group therapy, and it forces kids to ruminate, to pathologically focus on their bad feelings, on their pain, and those are the number one symptoms of depression. >> and it is interesting, 70% of very liberal students, they say -- this is from the american enterprise institute, so they are a little right- leaning -- reports feeling anxious 52% of conservatives. but, it does seem like the liberals are more in their own head, and are suffering from this. is that right, and why? >> i have seen that statistic and looked, the reason why i think so, that might be, is because those are the parents, in general, who are getting their kids more therapy, they are highly educated, and they are more anxious because they are highly educated, they are more anxious themselves, they are pushing their anxiety onto their kids. we know you can communicate anxiety. parents need to be tougher for their kids. they need to set an example here and they need to stop obsessing over kids happiness and start worrying about making kids strong. >> [ applause ] >> all right. so, parenting is also involved in the other book you ll wrote, that book you wrote that was banned, irreversible damage, which is about gender reassignment, as we have called it. now, we have the cast review from england which says, you must feel somewhat vindicated by this because america is now an outlier country with this. the scandinavian countries that were doing it, england that was doing it, they all pulled back. the cast report says the evidence of using puberty blocking drugs and other hormonal medications is remarkably weak. why is america so behind? usually, when we look at those countries, we say, this is what the liberals are doing, so we are just going to -- no, we are alone on this. >> yes, we are. two reasons, england had national, centralized healthcare, so they got into this faster, and they were also able to shut it down faster, and because our healthcare is obviously decentralized, it is harder to shut bad medicine down in this country, but there is something else but i have to say. they had something really special in england, they had a j.k. rowling, and she helped gender critical feminists pry away from the progressive left on this issue and stand up to the bodily integrity of girls, and stand up for the integrity of medicine. >> [ applause ] >> i think as part of that peer pressure element, it is worth pointing out to the extent that your audios -- audience might not, that abigail s book was targeted by people who work for the aclu saying, it will be the highest thing to do, to block the distribution of this book. it speaks to a kind of aggressive, illiberal conservative that takes place. not just on this issue, but many other issues, dealing with covid. i think it is kind of a new thing. the last 10 years, especially, there has been a semi-deranged moment, were people who were involved with journalism, or academia, or whatever, have said we have created a new taboo, you are on the wrong side of the taboo, we must attack this person, other people who have been working in this. yes, it hurts their careers, but we don t necessarily have to cry to them -- she is on bill maher, so she is doing okay. but, it hurts them. that is what people don t get. when you block off the information that is coming in, particularly on a contested subject, particularly that is affecting kids in life and death situations, and you are blocking off the information by enforcing a taboo, you are hurting yourself. >> it is one thing to critique, it is another thing to say, nobody should even be able to look at this, to even read it, as if you are some sort of crazy person. >> i will just say one thing, in the three or four years it took between the time i wrote my last book and talked about the same risks that are in the cast report, two until the mainstream media worked up the backbone to actually do some reporting, tens of thousands of american children were harmed. >> and what you are saying -- i certainly wouldn t be the one saying -- that there aren t trans folks who, we do need some transitioning, sometimes. what you were just saying is, there are no guardrails on desperate >> and these are children. this is not the bodies of adults, they can do whatever they want with their bodies. >> using children as cannon fodder in their culture wars, is what it looked like to me. i don t want you to move. i m gonna miss you so much. you realize we ll have internet waiting for us at the new place, right? 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[ applause ] >> all right, airlines configure these first-class seats that feature a for curve the 22 inch screen for a cinematic experience but only if they are paired with those double-decker seats in economy. [ laughter ] on a new carrier called inequality airlines -- yes, inequality airlines -- there is something special in the air, it is just not you. >> [ applause ]. >> don t bring your kid to the office if your office is the united states congress. tennessee representative john rose did just that while making a furious speech denouncing trump prosecution, and look what happened? someone acted -- >> [ audience reacts ] >> yeah, someone acted like a goofy, childish more on, and this poor kid had to sit through it. [ laughter ] new rule, let s stop rewarding every family that has too many kids with a reality show on tlc. >> [ applause ] >> the latest one is the baldwin s. seven kids born in a 10 year span. wow. guess there were no blanks fired in that house. >> [ audience reacts ] >> well, they shouldn t prosecute him. that is the serious point. they should not. , now that a remote amazon tribe has connected to elon musk s starlet -- -- -- styling internet and become addicted to , i say, congratulations. oh, sure, the liberal inclination is to promote the encroachment of modernity on such an innocent, unsettling people, but that is not what the amazon tribes themselves are saying. they are saying, thanks, elon, it sure beats jerking off to this tree. [ laughter ] new rule, now that researchers say marijuana use has surpassed alcohol as america s drug of choice, they have to answer this -- >> [ audience reacts ] >> you re welcome. they have to answer this question. if alcohol use is declining, why is it still not safe to eat at a waffle house? i mean -- not to always be the marijuana advocate, but do you know what the stoners are doing while the fight is going on? eating their waffles! >> [ audience reacts ] >> and finally, new rule, someone has to look into the puzzling paradox of why it is that rape jokes are completely unacceptable, unthinkable, and totally out of bounds, but raped-in-prison jokes, fucking hilarious! never a bad time to do the one about how you drop the soap in the prison shower, better not bend over for it. and look, with all the talk now about trump possibly going to jail, we have all been doing it, i mean, it is not just trump. given the opportunity, it is natural to want to imagine him getting fucked in the ass. >> [ audience reacts ] >> i m just saying, maybe we shouldn t. if not for him, then for the nearly 2 million people behind bars at any given time during this country. that is more people than 12 states. they should have their own two senators, and one can be bob menendez. america has a higher incarceration rate than russia, or china, or almost any of the other evildoer countries who we are always shitting our pants over, and for someone, everyone -- everything at walgreens is still locked behind plexiglass. but, for some reason, americans simply accept that not only do we lock up way more people, but that if you are a criminal of any time, yes, sodomy is the appropriate comeuppance. they say, if you want to survive prison, the first thing you do when you get there, what you have to do, is go up to the biggest, baddest guy, and punch him in the face, which i find also works if you are a passenger on delta. >> [ audience reacts ] >> as a prisoner here in america, you will either be alone, in solitary -- which drives you out of your mind -- or, completely on top of everybody else heard inmates in america are routinely forced to sleep on the floor and to fight for access to toilets and showers. of the world s 25 most dangerous prisons, four are here in the u.s., the san quentin, the super max in colorado, and the state pen in new mexico. where, for $45, oh, yes, you can tour the cellblock, where 33 inmates were killed in one of the worst prison riots in history. so, bring the kids, and don t forget to get that salt for the gas chamber. >> [ audience reacts ] >> here in california, the prison in dublin made headlines because it is where they sent lori loughlin after her college cheating scandal, but have since closed. why? because the rape club that the guards had going was so impervious and ingrained it was just easier to shutter the whole place. and prison in america is a place that forces the people in it -- forces them -- to become racists. if you are black, you are with the brothers, if you are white, you have to join the aryans in it. there is no leave me out of it, i like everybody. let s just all get coexist tattoos on our knuckles. yeah. i mean -- >> [ audience reacts ] >> what kind of society is cool with all of this? we call them correctional facilities, but that is like calling the nfl a brain development program. and look, i am not saying that it is not okay to lock people up. it is. of course it is. diddy does it all the time. >> [ audience reacts ] but, it is not okay to deliberately violate the eighth amendment s prohibition of cruel and unusual punishment. fake tough guys think, hey, if prison is bad enough, it will incentivize people to stay out of trouble after they get out, but they are long. it actually does the opposite. within a year of released, around 40% of prisoners are rearrested. within 10 years, it is 82%. and i don t think they want back in because they miss the toilet one. if we are trying to make inmates into criminals for life, it is working, because prisoners like linkedin for lowlifes, you can t beat the networking. it is a taxpayer-funded criminal mentorship program. but, here is the thing. around 95% of all inmates eventually to get out, so the question becomes, who do we want returning to society? some hapless broke dude goes in for selling drugs or passing a bad check and if you years later, he comes out a sexual predator with white power written on his neck. and we sort of just accept that light, that is how prison words. you go in bad, you come out worse. if you are lucky, when you get out, we will let you work the carnival, or the toll booth, or date britney spears. >> [ audience reacts ] >> jesus. it almost makes stealing catalytic converters not worth it. but, it doesn t have to be this way. we could change. there are even places in the world that offer a model as to what that would look like. norway s recidivism rate is 20%. prisoners there do yoga, they learn a trade, there is a playground for their kids when they visit, and the guards aren t maniacs who failed the police psych exam. and it is a place that looks less like our prisons and more like what you would find on an american college campus only, of course, with less anti- semitism. >> [ audience reacts ] >> of course, the big difference is that unlike here, scandinavian countries don t have private, for-profit prisons. that is what we have here. and corporations, it turns out, don t run prisons to improve society, they run them to make money, which means putting more people in the system, and the more prisoners, the more profit. this is why they lobby congress with three strikes rules and keeping weed illegal. they don t want them rehabilitated. they want to return customers. all right. that is our show. if you enjoyed this editorial -- we have more just like it for you, right up there! if that is not a father s day press, i don t know what is! june 21st and 22nd, with the music hall in boston june 26th. thank you, matt welch! now, we are going to watch overtime on youtube. thank you. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪
Threw a party. guests got a tour of different spots at the zoo, learned about the history of the animals, but it was an extra special day for one four year old. this is amelia. there she is. she was the 95th person to enter the zoo today, so she was selected to name one of the zoo s endangered animals. that s really cool. and just like her, you. yes, you can also name an endangered animal if you visit the zoo on any weekend in june and you are the 95th, visit. oh very cool. breaking news tonight, the daring military rescue of four hostages from gaza, now safely back with family. new images of the mission from above. hostages rushed to safety by helicopter. the moments they returned to israel caught on camera. and the emotional reunions with loved ones. we have new details on how they were found as the israelis celebrate across the country, and families speak out. >> thank youd the emotional . for bringing my son home to me. >> what it means for the u.s. cease-fire proposal as france welcomes president biden with a massive parade. one of america s pioneering astronauts who took this famous photo has died while flying a small plane. the crash caught on camera. the investigation now into what went wrong. three people injured in shark attacks just miles apart. while in hawaii, another attack. a landslide caught on camera, taking out a critical wyoming highway. basketball bombshell, superstar caitlin clark will not be on the u.s. olympics team. >> you re trying to grow the game of women s basketball, you would not do this. >> why was she benched? and move over lassie, the amazing story of this truck that crashed down a ravine and the dog that ran four miles to save its owner. >> announcer: this is nbc nightly news with jose diaz-balart. good evening. there is joy and relief across israel tonight. four hostages who were kidnapped by hamas 245 days ago are now free. this is the moment they returned home, raising their hands in celebration. they were then quickly reunited with family. one of the hostages noa argamani, that s her there seared into the public by this image, now, there is this image, her and her dad, together again. embracing, the daring rescue operation played out in broad daylight. the israeli military releasing these images and while the mission was a success it came at a heavy price with authorities in gaza saying more than 200 were killed as part of the operation. and 120 israelis are still being held hostage. we have two reports tonight, and we begin with raf sanchez in israel. >> reporter: her screams were heard around the world, noa argamani hands outstretched in terror before disappearing into gaza. tonight, 245 long days later, noa safe and smiling. telling israel s president, i m so happy to be here. she and three other hostages, almog meir jan, shlomi ziv, and andrei kozlov in good health after they were rescued by israeli special forces in a daylight raid in central gaza. >> this operation required ingenuity and courage of the highest degree. >> reporter: commandos storming two civilian apartments, finding noa in one, the men in the other. radioing, we have the diamonds when the rescue was complete. a helicopter waiting for noa on the beach in northern gaza. ready to fly her home to safety. and into the embrace of her father yakov. celebrating his birthday with one arm around his only child. the other over one of her rescuers. we first met yakov on october 8. his world crumbling 24 hours after his daughter s kidnapping. tonight, he tells us, i m feeling wonderful. noa s friends at her side. >> she s amazing. she s strong. she s laughing and smiling and -- >> what was the first thing you said to her. >> just a big hug. and so glad that she s here. >> reporter: almog all smiles as he hugs friends and relatives and then unable to hold back the tears. while andrei stunned to see the prime minister. and shlomi speaking to his wife for the first time in eight months. in tel aviv, this lifeguard announcing the news of the rescue to a cheering beach. but in gaza tonight, searing grief, the health ministry saying at least 210 people killed by israeli forces during the raid, many of them women and children. this woman says she lost two cousins. they didn t commit any sins, she says. israel s military says it called in targeted strikes to cover the commando s retreat, and joy in israel tinged with sadness as 120 other hostages remain in captivity, including noa s boyfriend avi who was kidnapped alongside her on october 7th while her mother leora is dying of brain cancer. but tonight, her final wish, to see her daughter again fulfilled. >> and raf joins us now from tel aviv. raf, what does this rescue operation mean for the 120 hostages still being held? >> reporter: jose, israel s military is acknowledging it won t be able to rescue all of the remaining hostages while hamas is saying today s raid will have a, quote, negative impact on those still in captivity. jose. >> raf sanchez, thank you. in france today, president biden reacting to news of the hostage release, doubling down on the u.s. commitment to a cease-fire deal. kelly o donnell reports from paris. >> reporter: standing alongside emanuel macron, president biden today welcomed the rescue of israeli hostages. >> we won t stop working until all of the hostages come home and a cease-fire is reached, that is essential to happen. >> reporter: macron added his support for the u.s.-backed cease-fire proposal. that israel has questions about, and hamas has yet to accept. neither leader discussed publicly today tensions with israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu. over the military operation inside gaza, causing civilian deaths and widespread hunger. outside the white house today demonstrations calling for a permanent cease-fire, and release of palestinian prisoners. those protests a sharp contrast to the pageantry of the french state visit. paid respects at the tomb the leaders also paid respects at the tomb of france s unknown soldier. ♪ and the home of the brave ♪ >> reporter: a visit that signifies this alliance as president biden spoke today about france as america s oldest friend. much of this visit emphasized strong alliances. >> we stand as one, our countries are stronger, and literally the world is safer. >> back now with kelly o donnell traveling with the president in paris. and kelly, what s the latest on the white house s efforts to reach a cease-fire deal? >> reporter: today, the president s national security adviser pointed out in a statement that that deal has been endorsed by a number of countries, from europe to the middle east. including 16 that have citizens among the remaining hostages. jose? >> kelly o donnell in paris, thank you. legendary astronaut bill anders who took what is widely considered the most famous photo of our planet has died in a plane crash. his final moments caught on camera as the aircraft he was piloting nose-dived into the water off the coast of washington state. dana griffin reports. a warning for you, some may find the video disturbing. >> reporter: tonight an ntsb and faa investigation is under way into the single-engine two seater plane crash that killed famed nasa astronaut and former air force major general bill anders. a couple watching wildlife off the coast of san juan county, washington capturing this moment, the 90-year-old pilot, the only person on board, taking a nose-dive. >> it was inverted, went into this barrel roll loop thing. tried to pull up before it hit the water but it was too low. >> reporter: the plane crashes into the water, bursting into flames. hours later, anders body is pulled from the water. in 2018 anders talked with nbc s harry smith about his career. >> probably the world s best fighter pilot. but we don t talk about that. >> reporter: before astronauts could set foot on the moon the apollo 8 crew first had to prove they could fly round the moon and back. >> wow, that s pretty. >> reporter: and it was the photo he took dubbed earth rise that became a part of history. >> when the earth came up over the lunar horizon, that s when it really impressed me as to how much more delicate the earth was, and colorful. >> reporter: his family saying in a statement they are devastated. he was a great pilot. he will be missed. nasa administrator senator bill nelson writing on x, anders offered to humanity, among the deepest of gifts, he traveled to the threshold of the moon, and helped all of us see something else, ourselves. >> i ll keep flying as long as i can crawl in the airplane. >> reporter: a love of flying and a legacy that went beyond the earth. dana griffin, nbc news. a catastrophe is unfolding in wyoming, take a look at this. it s an astonishing caught-on-camera landslide that erased part of a critical highway. it happened on the popular teton pass outside jackson connecting parts of wyoming with idaho. that stretch is considered a major artery for tourism, commuters and deliveries. there has been a wave of shark attacks in the last 24 hours. two of them just miles apart. two people were seriously injured in those attacks. authorities now trying to determine if they re connected. marissa parra reports from florida.ptured by a florida sp >> reporter: video captured by a florida spear fisherman showing close encounters of the shark kind, filmed on the same day the beaches nearby him in walton countyflorida closed after back-to-back shark attacks within miles in one day. >> you don t ever think it s going to happen. it s like crazy. >> reporter: on friday before 1:30 p.m. a woman swimming near a sand bar, bit in her mid-section. and arm. then half an hour away, two teenage girls seen fighting for their lives after a shark attack. >> when i looked back over my left shoulder, i saw the water filled with blood. >> reporter: two doctors visiting florida on vacation saw the scene unfold and jumped in to help. >> we were able to apply tourniquets and apply pressure, and get the response. it was a team effort. >> reporter: it s unclear whether it was the same shark in both attacks. >> extremely unusual for two to happen in the same afternoon within four miles of one another. >> reporter: statistically speaking attacks by sharks on humans are rare, but friday s florida shark attacks come on the same day that attack reported out of hawaii and after last week s attack in galveston, texas, when a 19-year-old had to fight a five-footer off with her hands. >> as soon as the shark attacked me my body just naturally started punching it, and it was in the face. i did that. and then it ended up swimming away. >> going about knee deep. >> reporter: in florida, walton county officials assess next steps, warning flags line the beaches. >> is it safe for people to go in the water today? >> safe is a relative term but i don t think people should be hysterical or paralyzed. only insofar as they need to be aware of their surroundings and look out for each other. >> marissa is on the beach in florida where one of these attacks occurred. are there any extra precautions being taken there today? >> reporter: well, jose, authorities say they are watching the shoreline from the land, the sea, the air and they said today they have observed a, quote, notable presence of sharks in the area, specifically bull sharks. but they remind beach goers that sharks are always present here in the gulf. jose? >> marissa parra in walton county, thank you. still ahead tonight, life-saving money lost. the millions raised for organ transplant patients now gone. where did it go? also, the stunning new olympic outrage over caitlin clark. >> look at this beautiful step-back. caitlin clark. but my time to enjoy it. but now, i can open up my world with vabysmo. 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the driver crashed it over an embankment in oregon, but get this, while he was trapped his dog named blue was with him, but then ran about four miles through rough terrain to alert family members at a nearby campsite that something was wrong. they then alerted officials, who finally found the man alive, and used pulleys to hoist him to safety. fans of superstar caitlin clark are outraged tonight following reports she will not be on the women s olympic basketball team. jesse kirsch has more. >> clark, the step-back three, just below the logo, drills it. >> reporter: fresh off one of her best wnba performances yet. >> back-to-back triples -- >> reporter: caitlin clark is apparently not playing up to the olympic standard, her name expected to be left off of team usa s paris roster. >> if you re trying to grow the game of women s basketball, you would not do this. >> reporter: the revelation first reported by the athletic, ignited debate. >> call congress, the president. >> reporter: usa basketball says we have not made any official announcement yet, but a source familiar with the decision tells nbc news the 12 player roster includes seasoned pros, like brittney griner and diana taurasi, excluding clark and other young stars, like fellow rookie angel reese. >> carter and clark. >> reporter: the news comes just days after this controversial foul sent clark to the floor, fueling debate about how the biggest name in women s basketball has been received since turning pro. >> does this mean now that they ll have fewer viewers? 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[ cheers and applause ]. talk about a special delivery. that s beloved u.p.s. driver ricky mcwood, retiring after 42 years on the job.gh >> i ll miss you guys more. >> thank you, thank you. >> reporter: neighbors on his route in missouri, celebrating him, so grateful for his decades-long dead ration. >> they can make or break us. and these people have made me. [ cheers and applause ]. and, there were these cheers for kalee manueles. she had to miss her own high school graduation because of a recent leukemia diagnosis. so, staff at texas health harris methodist hospital threw her a party to mark the milestone. it s a moment kalee and her mom brandy will always cherish. >> it was a beautiful moment. and i was very grateful. to each and every one of them who put that together for her. >> they all just started cheering for me. i felt so empowered in that moment. [ cheers and applause ]. ethan michael walker. >> when ethan walker got his diploma from grosbeck high school near waco he was surprised with his very own cheering section. take a look. more than a dozen texas state troopers showed up to support him. after ethan s own trooper dad died in the line of duty. for ethan, these folks are now family, walking him through life s big moments. and here s a little boy who s getting a new lease on life thanks to his preschool teacher. >> she s a perfect match. >> are you serious? >> yeah. >> this is the moment teresa fisher showed up with a life-saving surprise for ezra and his mom karen. >> i have a delivery for you. she has a liver for you. >> ezra, who s had health issues all his little life, needs a new liver. >> i m going to share my liver with you, buddy. >> and ms. carissa told them she s donating part of her own. >> how do you, karen, thank carissa? >> there aren t words. i can t. there s no way to express our gratitude, and we cry, and we laugh, and we smile, it s just incredible. >> an incredible act of kindness, making a huge impact for the rest of his life. >> what kind of person would do that? what kind of person are you, carissa, why would you do this? >> i am a helper, and knowing him was just a huge bonus for us, and so it s going to be nice to be able to see him grow up and he can make another difference in the world somehow. ♪ >> and ezra is expected to get that liver surgery some time this summer. that s nbc nightly news for this saturday, i m jose diaz-balart, thank you for the privilege of your time and good night. from cisco an update on how they re doing tonight. plus, a longtime bar that was threatened by the flames. a major step forward in a project to link the south bay s light rail to the bart system. see the colorful, groundbreaking ceremony in just a few moments. but first, four hostages are finally free after being held for eight months in gaza after a brutal battle between israel and hamas. reaction tonight in the bay area . the news at six starts right now. thanks for joining us. i m terry mcsweeney and i m gia vang. we are going to start with that fire in san francisco that created a scare in the outer
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[theme music] welcome to violent earth. i m liev schreiber. 2023 set an all time record for weather and climate related disasters in the us. 28 events with losses over $1 billion. wildfires, hurricanes, and floods are more frequent than ever. the earth is changing. tonight, we delve into one of the most powerful natural hazards in the world, tornadoes. terrifying vortexes unleashed from thunderstorms that can cause unimaginable destruction. few examples of their power are more definitive than the 2011 twister that hit joplin, missouri. categorized as an ef5, the highest level possible, with maximum winds over 200 miles per hour, the tornado cut right through the center of the city. storm chaser: oh my gosh. oh my gosh. jim riek: late may is the bull s eye in the midwest for tornadoes. joplin was under a risk of a tornado, but not a great risk. storm chaser: that is a tornado, people. there was a complex of storms that came toward the city. oh my gosh. the tornado formed just outside of the joplin city limits. storm chaser: listen to it! jim riek: and then it just started racing into joplin. [indistinct shouting] all the alarms are going off on my computer, and here it comes. storm chaser: there! storm chaser: i see it. i see it. just straight through the heart of joplin, missouri. storm chaser: oh gosh, that is a monster tornado. i couldn t really see anything because it was obscured by rain. jim riek: it was rain rain. i think that s why so many people died. they did not realize that what they were seeing was the tornado. in this case, an ef5 tornado that is catastrophic. and by the time they did, it s too late. jeff piotrowski: as the tornado went by, everything was gone. it was like a bulldozer, and it leveled everything in its path. kat piotrowski: i just couldn t believe what i was seeing, the millions and millions of pieces of debris. jim riek: the tornado was on the ground for 32 minutes. storm chaser: the sirens are going. jim riek: it hits a convenience store on east 20th street. they had locked it just so the door wouldn t fling open. jim riek: listen to the audio. [screaming, rain pounding] jeff piotrowski: as the tornado entered the center part of the city, it hit the high school, and that s where the max damage occurred. jim riek: that surveillance video from the high school is no more than a hundred yards from amber munson s house. donna kerry: in 2011, amber was 40 years old. amber has always been amber, just always generous and kind and hospitable and just fun to be around. amber was home that afternoon. she wasn t aware that the tornado was coming. she didn t have her tv on and no indicators that it was gonna be that severe. i had spoken to her. she said, oh, it s just turned really dark here. and then she said, um, now the sirens are going off. and that s when i said, you know, go take the quilt off the top of your bed and get in your bathtub. i said, and then call me back. very few houses in joplin, particularly in the path of what turned out to be this tornado, had basements. so the best place to go is either a closet or in your bathtub. harold brooks: you wanna get as low as you can and put as many walls between you and the tornado as possible. storm chaser: oh gosh. i was concerned when she said the sirens were going off. i wouldn t even have imagined the magnitude of what was gonna come. jim riek: amber munson, probably 15 seconds before the tornado hit, realized just how bad it was going to be. and bang. the tornado hit. for tornadoes to form, you have to have a certain set of ingredients. first of all, you have to have moisture available for thunderstorms to develop. you have to have a source of lift or a trigger for those thunderstorms to get going. you have to have unstable air, which is temperatures that get colder with height and that allows the thunderstorm to rise and develop vertically. the most important ingredient is you have to have wind shear, which is changing of wind direction with height and also changing wind speeds with height. there s all sorts of different shapes tornadoes can take. we have a stovepipe, which is kind of like a straight up and down type tornado. we have obviously a cone. that makes sense. it s a cone shape. another one is the wedge, and that s usually the most intense. different tornadoes have different smells. when a tornado is going through a densely wooded area, you can smell the fresh cut wood, the fresh cut pine, whatever the tree is. paul markowski: the typical widths are anywhere from probably 25 to 50 yards across on the low end to, on the high end, a mile wide. tim marshall: the largest one i ve ever seen was the el reno, oklahoma tornado, and that was over two miles wide. kim klockow mcclain: the joplin tornado became a mile wide wedge right on the edge of town. kat piotrowski: the tornado was massive. it was chewing up everything in its path. there was no mercy at all. er: breaking news here at cnn. joplin, missouri, suffering the devastation right now of a very powerful tornado. jim riek: amber lived in what i would call a very middle class area of joplin. jeff piotrowski: this beautiful, quaint subdivision, and now it s level. kat piotrowski: it was just total devastation. our phone rang, and it was her, and she was screaming, mother, my house is on top of me. that s when i said, amber, that s not funny, because we would always kid back and forth. and she said, no, mom, my house is on top of me. and then her phone went dead. so there s a lot of myths that have been passed down through the years. reporter: doors and windows on the north and east sides were open. trent okerson: whenever i was growing up, i heard you ve got to open up the windows to equalize the air pressure. well, pressure is not what will cause damage to a home. it s wind getting up under the roof, blowing the roof off. another big misconception is if you re out in a vehicle, that an overpass is a great place to take shelter. that is not a good place to go. scientists have realized that being in that overpass creates a bit of a wind tunnel effect, that the wind is blowing through a smaller area so it can actually accelerate the wind speeds. so you re putting yourself in greater danger. kim klockow mcclain: there s a really popular misconception that mobile homes are like tornado attractors, and what s behind that is undoubtedly that people hear about mobile homes getting hit more because that s where people die. harold brooks: roughly half of the deaths in tornadoes occur in mobile and manufactured homes. they re much more vulnerable to a tornado and tend to turn into debris quicker. there are myths that tornadoes can t cross bodies of water. oh, tornadoes can t go through cities. jeff piotrowski: but there are no rules when it comes to tornadoes. they go where they wanna go. harold brooks: the deadliest tornado in us history is march 18, 1925, the tri-state tornado that went across southeastern missouri, southern illinois into southwestern indiana, and it killed 695 people over about a two and a half hour long period. generally, after the tri-state tornado, we see, like, a 10-fold decrease in the fatality rate from tornadoes as compared to 1925. we think there are a lot of things that could be going on behind that. there was the emergence of radio and people downstream could hear about it immediately. radar has had something to do with this, increases in our understanding of storms, and now the ability to push warnings to people on their cell phones. harold brooks: but the may 22, 2011 tornado at joplin, missouri, was the deadliest tornado in decades in the united states. being the seventh deadliest in us history. jim riek: on that day, it didn t matter what type of forecasting skills you had, what technology. the tornado won. [dramatic music] jeff piotrowski: everything basically was a three foot, four foot pile of debris everywhere as far as the eye could see. just debris everywhere. there s really nothing standing. donna kerry: in her immediate neighborhood, there were 16 people that perished. jim riek: jeff piotrowski sees a lady who is hysterical, has no idea what has happened to her. and that s amber munson. you could hear amber before you saw her, and that s what i remember more than anything is hearing her cries out. amber munson: can i use your phone? jeff piotrowski: what? kat piotrowski: and coming towards us. jeff piotrowski: yeah, all the phones are jammed. kat piotrowski: jeff jumped out of the car immediately and raced towards her. i m ok. i m ok. jeff piotrowski: come here. come here. hello? hello? how did she survive? amber munson: once the tornado sirens went off and the lights started flickering, i grabbed a pillow and a blanket and my phone and i jumped into the bathtub. i decided to roll over on my right side and i kind of got into a fetal position and covered myself up. but as the pressure started coming, the bath started bouncing. so it was very minor at first, not realizing that you re gonna get sucked out of your house. after the tornado hit, i remember hearing the glass shatter, but i don t remember flying in the tornado. amber munson went flying, ended up in someone else s yard. amber munson: when i woke up, i just remember being upside down, buried within the rubble. i knew i was alive, but i still questioned whether or not i was gonna survive because of the stuff that was falling on me. i think just wanting to survive kicked in for her. i kind of wiggled myself out so that i could get up, and that s when i got out of the hole. i had twisted my knee and i had a puncture wound in my back. but she s alive. it was a miracle. amber munson: the joplin tornado, having lived through it, made me realize that people don t take them serious enough. you see people that go stand on the front porch wanting to capture these things, not realizing how risky they really can be. storm chaser: oh, we got lightning. her uncle s unhappy. i m sensing an underlying issue. it s t-mobile. it started when we tried to get him under a new plan. but they they unexpectedly unraveled their “price lock” guarantee. which has made him, a bit... unruly. you called yourself the “un-carrier”. you sing about “price lock” on those commercials. “the price lock, the price lock...” so, if you could change the price, change the name! it s not a lock, i know a lock. so how can we undo the damage? we could all unsubscribe and switch to xfinity. their connection is unreal. and we could all un-experience this whole session. okay, that s uncalled for. trent okerson: storm chasing has gotten extremely popular over the past couple of decades. storm chaser: get the best footage. harold brooks: people do it, in large part, for the thrill and for the excitement of seeing the event. storm chaser: tornado number one. tornado number two. the original tornado is still on the ground. tim marshall: once you get out there and you see a storm in the open plains and the amazing structure that it has, it s mesmerizing, and it can become even addicting. storm chaser: my goodness. that is a thing of beauty and violence. max olson: there s a side to it that s almost like a hunter, because you re trying to narrow down where in the country this relatively rare phenomenon is gonna take place. storm chaser: come on. tim marshall: now there are thousands of people who do this. there s even tour groups nowadays, and you can get in a van and go with a group of fellow enthusiasts and drive out onto the plains and see the majestic skies. allison chinchar: in the united states, we average more than 1,200 tornadoes per year. that is number one in the world by a long shot. the second closest is canada, which only gets 100 per year. you could actually add canada, australia, and all european countries combined, and we still see more than they do. tornadoes are most common in the midwest. max olson: we also have another area that s really prone to tornadoes in our southeastern states. harold brooks: the tornado season depends on where you are in the country. in the plains, tornado season is typically over a relatively short period of time in the springtime. in the southeastern united states, tornadoes are more likely to occur at any time of the year. tornadoes actually can and do strike all over the country. tim marshall: tornadoes have been known to be in every state of the us. they have been in the highest of mountains, beaches, and offshore. harold brooks: over the last 50 years, what we ve seen has been an increase in the number of tornadoes in what we think of as the mid-south. it looks like it s associated with physical changes in the atmosphere, but we don t have a real underlying reason of why that s occurred. reporter: a rare sight in the skies over japan. a powerful twister ripping across the eastern part of the nation. tornadoes occur worldwide. jeff piotrowski: europe has tornadoes. south america has tornadoes. australia, japan. trent okerson: but the united states has a unique combination of geographical features that can lend itself to a lot of tornadoes. the gulf of mexico, that provides the very warm, humid air. then you also get cooler, drier air that s either coming down from canada or off the rockies. there s really no other place in the world that has the exact combination of ingredients like we do here in the united states. storm chaser: zoom in. storm chasing has definitely evolved into this kind of social media era. storm chaser: where are we? northeast nebraska? max olson: and people wanna be seen. they wanna be, you know, the chaser that everybody thinks of, doing the live streams, posts in front of a tornado and whatnot. trent okerson: storm chasing is a double edged sword. it s very valuable when it comes to learning more about the science behind storms, but it can also be dangerous if you re not 100% sure of what you re doing. the biggest danger of storm chasing has always been the driving. storm chaser: let s go back. we re going back. we re going back. you tend to judge where the tornado is going, but that doesn t always happen. there are so many people who chase now on some storms that traffic is actually a serious problem. when i m chasing out in the plains, i m apt to see dozens of other chasers. when i began storm chasing, there were no other chasers. tim marshall: david hoadley, whether he likes it or not, is the father of modern day storm chasing. max olson: david hoadley is the first person to truly go out and seek tornadoes, driving long distances, attempting to come up with some sort of formula to see tornadoes. he holds the record for the longest consecutive years of storm chasing. i ve been storm chasing 66 years, and i ve seen 265 tornadoes. i saw my first tornado in 1958. i think this is one of the things that appealed to me was the element of, really, mystery. what causes these storms? there was so much that was unknown. 2023, i saw david hoadley out chasing. the man s 85 years old. he s been doing it for most of his life, and he s still out there doing it every single year. david hoadley: it s not like spelunking or surfboarding. you can return to the ocean. you can climb the mountains again and again and again. but that one tornado, that one storm, once it s gone, it s out. it s history. to have a picture of it, have a video or anything else of it, is to say that i ve captured something that will never happen again. tornadoes are most common 4:00 to 8:00 pm. because that s when the atmosphere is warmest, you get the sunshine, heats things up, creates the most instability. that instability is fuel for thunderstorms. mason lillard: may 22, normal sunday. we went fishing for a little bit and we were getting ready to take my cousin lage home. i was 10 and lage was 14, and my grandpa was like, hey, i need some wiring for my garage at home depot. i would say probably around 5:00, 5:15-ish, the sky s starting to get a little kind of weird looking. my grandpa went inside of home depot and my cousin, my grandma, and myself were all sitting in the truck. we heard the sirens go off, but we just ignored them like normal. and then all of a sudden it went from kind of dark to, like, midnight black, almost. we were trying to open up the doors of the truck and the winds were just going too fast. and then my cousin, he was like, whoa, the truck s tearing up. and then at that moment, the truck flipped on its side and got sucked into the vortex. we could kind of hear everything, like the hail hitting the truck and stuff. it felt terrifying to be in that tornado. you see, like, the wizard of oz, and it s almost like that. but in real life, it s loud and you don t know what s going on. lage was sucked out of the truck. i felt like i was slipping out of the truck. i was holding on to my grandma s hand, and then i felt the truck land, like, the tires bounce. and i was like, ok. i m alive, at least. all i felt was, like, my ribs were broken. i realized that something was actually in me. most people are killed in tornadoes by flying debris. storm chaser: that s the most violent motion. kim klockow mcclain: tornadoes consist of anything the tornado brings into the air. so often a lot of dust and dirt and plants, branches. and then if it s a more violent tornado, that can include debris like planks of wood, shards of glass. mason lillard: i hear my grandma. lage, lage. and i was like, mama, i hear him. he was outside of the truck. it wasn t like a, i m here, or i m ok. it was moaning. storm chaser: oh, no. there are the lines. oh my god. oh my god. look at that. harold brooks: one of the things about a tornado is that it s producing a lot of small pieces of debris that are flying at, you know, 150 miles an hour. and even ordinary objects, dinner plates, two by fours, become really, really deadly at those kinds of high speeds. jim riek: i knew after joplin how destructive a tornado could be. it was moving so slowly that it was like a blender. everything on the ground was getting totally mixed together. and it just hits you again and again and again and again. i saw a piece of cardboard that actually penetrated into the exterior insulation finish system on a school. at the hospital, they had $1 million helicopter. all of the rotors are gone. if a rotor of a helicopter is flying by at 100 miles an hour, what is that going to do to a human body? paul markowski: how far the debris goes is going to depend on essentially how heavy it is. the heavier stuff gets centrifuged out, so big chunks of structures or automobiles. lighter debris, though, like a piece of paper, that won t get centrifuged out. that ll instead go up through the funnel, can end up reaching altitudes of 40, 50,000 feet, and there certainly testimonials out there, people finding pieces of paper or photographs 50 to 100 miles from their origin in the wake of a tornado. mason lillard: we thought it was only, like, 20 minutes before help arrived. it ended up almost being two hours. jim riek: when the paramedics came, they spotted lage first because he s outside. they carried lage out on a two by four, and they brought him to the ambulance, and the paramedic jumped out and said he s not gonna make it. the other ones were trying to cut me out. i had a one inch piece of angle iron go through my right shoulder, break seven ribs, puncture my lower lung, and come out my back. a fourth inch away from my spine and a fourth inch away from my liver. they ended up having to use an electric saw. it felt like 5,000 bees stinging me at one time. and i had arrived sitting on the stretcher, sitting up. once they took my cousin to the hospital, they black tagged him and put him in the morgue. left him for death. a nurse came in and she touched his arm and he let out a horrifying scream, and she grabbed a doctor, said, i think we can save him. two hours later, he was in the or. after the tornado, i had 13 surgeries in total over the course of three years. lage was on the ventilator for at least two weeks. he has a brace on his leg and he can t really use his right arm. but he did survive. the may 22, 2011 tornado killed 158 people directly, and there were three indirect deaths. we did not know that we could experience tornadoes this deadly in modern times. harold brooks: nighttime tornadoes are more dangerous than the same tornado in the daytime, for a lot of reasons. we ascribe this to the fact that people are just less aware at night. [ominous music] i was chasing that day. what was that? oh, i think i see it. i start to see the shape of the tornado come into view. i know this is a significant tornado. oh, wow. that is huge. holy [bleep] ok. ok. ok. we got it. and then i just see the tornado, an absolute beast marching off to the northeast. ah, man, it s moving towards populated area now. it was headed from one small community to another small community, and we knew, based on where this was going, if you draw a line, it s coming right to mayfield. the mayfield event was moving at the upper end of tornado speeds, 60, 65 miles an hour. this was something that is very high end. harold brooks: speed certainly can play an impact on how dangerous a tornado is. a faster tornado is gonna give you less time to react. the speed at which the tornado is going to move along is going to roughly match the speed that the parent thunderstorm s moving along. in some cases, we ve seen storms move as fast as 60, 70, 80 miles per hour because they re embedded in very strong winds. allison chinchar: there is one example of a man in illinois back in 2013. he s filming a tornado that is off in the distance, but he quickly realizes it s actually headed right towards him and his home. man: all right. i got to go. i m coming, honey. woman: [screams] man: aw, man. woman: oh my god! allison chinchar: about 45 seconds later, he gets the look at the scope of the damage that s been done to his house. man: oh my god. our house is freaking destroyed. kim klockow mcclain: the survivors i ve spoken with, they just experience what feels like a building dissolving. one minute i was in a building and the next minute i just wasn t. like a bomb has hit it. it s obliterated. [ominous music] derek vaughan: so at its maximum intensity, the peak winds were up to 190 miles per hour. that s enough to just destroy anything in its path. nothing can stand up to that. you knew people were gonna lose their lives that night. once the tornado approached mayfield, it came in from the southwest side of town. derek vaughan: i had a few officers on shift with me that night. we had decided that we were gonna go ahead and meet at the police department. the services all started going down suddenly. the power in the entire town went off. and of course, when that happened, we knew that it was probably about to hit. i remember officer simpson went to the front window and he just yelled, there s debris coming in. and as i watched him turn and run towards us, the whole front of the building just exploded inward on us. you almost couldn t even tell which way it was up, there was much wind and debris. it was almost like being underwater. trent okerson: mayfield water and electric, their facility was just on the edge of the worst damage path. even there, you saw the massive amounts of debris that was blowing, pieces of wood flying through the air like missiles, and they weren t even directly in the core of that tornado. one of the buildings that was close to the police department that got hit real hard was the f&b bank right there on the court square. and all of a sudden, boom. the tornado hits. it s that fast. trent okerson: the candle factory is a major employer in mayfield. this was right before christmas, and a lot of people that were working extra hours trying to do overtime, and their facility was packed that friday night. autumn kirks: i was working at mcp, the candle factory, that night. me and joe did work together at the factory. usually they try not to put couples together, but for some reason, we ve always made it work. he was so goofy. he d do anything to put a smile on anybody s face. kim klockow mcclain: the night of the storm, the couple were sheltering together when the tornado hit the candle factory. i didn t hear a single thing at all. all i heard was people talking. and then all of a sudden someone said, take cover. brad copeland: the best way i can describe it would be a war zone. i remember thinking the amount of force that could have caused that, you know, how could anybody survive what i was looking at. autumn kirks: joe and i were 10 feet from each other when it first hit. trent okerson: kyanna parsons was an employee there at the candle factory, and kyanna goes on facebook live that night to try to get help from the outside. storm chaser: there s two of them. in 2011, we saw one of those generational tornado outbreaks that doesn t happen in our country but every couple decades. storm chaser: oh, dude, that looks wild. storm chaser: oh, it s right there. that s that tornado right there. storm chaser: [bleep] harold brooks: april 27, there end up being a number of storms that produce tornadoes from central mississippi eastward through alabama. and many of those storms produced multiple tornadoes. just in the state of alabama there were 62 tornadoes that hit that day. seems that every hour that passes today, the news out of the south just gets worse. kim klockow mcclain: after the alabama outbreak, there was kind of a renaissance in our field because we hadn t experienced an event that deeply catastrophic in so long. there were hundreds of fatalities, and we hadn t lost that many people in a tornado outbreak since 1974. storm chaser: oh my god. harold brooks: one of the silver linings of the april 27 outbreak was an understanding that we need to do a whole lot more work on social science with respect to forecasting. i describe myself as a tornado epidemiologist. it s really someone who tries to understand the circumstances that lead someone to be injured or die from something. what are the factors that explain fatalities, and what kinds of interventions can we design, whether in our communication system or structurally in our communities, to help mitigate that threat? among the things studied was the amount of time given to warn the public about tornadoes. a tornado warning is issued when a storm is either actively producing a tornado or it looks really likely to. and we re starting to explore what is the right amount of lead time to give people. what they figured out was there is such a thing as too much lead time. if you give people too much time, say, it s going to be 20 minutes before the tornado arrives, many people will look out their window and see that it s still blue skies. the storm hasn t gotten there yet, and either they think they have more time than they do or they think the storm isn t really going to hit them. so there is such a thing as too much lead time. also what they re studying is how people react to the warning they re given. kim klockow mcclain: fear is a really challenging component of this entire equation. there has been no example i ve seen that is clearer of this fear effect than what happened in oklahoma in 2013. on may 20, we had the tornado that went through oklahoma city and moore and killed 24 people, including several children at a school. and after that, we had just days and days of storms and everyone was just on edge. and when may 31, 2013, a two mile wide tornado hit el reno just west of oklahoma city, we saw spontaneous mass evacuation ahead of that tornado. highways were clogged for over 30 miles. they found out because of fear, people actually did the opposite of what they re supposed to do. they fled their homes. they fled their businesses, places that normally would have been safe. when that happens in mass, that becomes very dangerous. you end up getting stuck in traffic as a tornado hits. reporter: and we re still waiting to hear word on what happened to the 110 people who were inside this candle factory. derek vaughan: once we were able to get down there and assist, i saw that this whole building was just gone. so one of the things that you ll notice if you see kyanna s facebook video was how resilient she was and her efforts to stay positive. kyanna parsons: i was under the rubble approximately about three hours. i see one of the rescue people, and i m crying. i m like, please don t leave me. he says, no, no, no, we re not gonna leave you. a trooper that was at the top grabbed my arm and he pulled. and so got out, and every step i made, there was someone grabbing my hand, someone grabbing my hand, and just there for me. autumn kirks: it felt like a wall on top of me and the three girls next to me. and i don t know who it was, but somebody came and lifted it up and got us all out. the minute i actually got out, i fell to my knees and just broke because i had no idea where joe was. i wanted to go back and look for him. i was told i was not allowed. it hit friday night, and at 9:30 monday morning his mom called me. she s like, autumn, they found him. i m like-- and i had hope for all of two seconds. she s like, autumn, he didn t make it. i wish i could go back to not knowing because there was hope that, hey, they might still find him. i just-- i pray that nobody else has to go through this. trent okerson: we have so much technology, we have the ability to control so much in our lives these days. you still can t control mother nature. you can t control a tornado. you can t control what it does. and no matter how prepared you may be, you re still at the mercy of what these storms decide to do. autumn kirks: i have a very healthy respect for mother nature and tornadoes and what they can do. it can ruin your entire life. it can destroy everything you know. in 2011, after the joplin tornado, amber munson had lost her house, most of her possessions,
members of the european parliament. who will shape the eu, as it faces defining challenges. so what are the issues driving this election? and what s foremost in people s minds as they head to the ballot boxes? welcome to europe votes 202a. hello and welcome from sunny lisbon, where we are coming to you from today. i m mark lowen, one of the bbc s europe correspondents. and over the course of this programme, we will bring new reports from across the continent as the election gets under way. but first, what s it all about? elections to the european parliament take place every five years. it s the only directly elected institution of the european union. shaping the bloc s policies, legislation and budgets. voting happens by proportional representation. each country gets a number of members of the european parliament, or meps, relative to its size. the meps sit in transnational groups according to their ideology. so, for example, there s left and right, eurosceptics and greens. the balance between them could change considerably this time. and this is the first european election since the united kingdom finally left the eu. polling is taking place across three days, with different countries voting at different times. the first eu member electing its new meps is the netherlands. with an expected surge in populist and far—right support, the dutch are still in the process of forming their own government after elections last november, which saw the anti—immigration politician geert wilders win most votes. climate has been one of the most divisive issues with the country under pressure to reduce its carbon footprint. anna holligan has been speaking to young people on both sides of the heated debate. every farmer is a bit crazy because they work the whole week, day in, day out. this man is a fourth—generation dairy farmer. it s a kind of a hobby, a way of life. and, yes, the love for this. home to 3.7 million cows — approximately one for every four voters — a dense population, global shipping and aviation hubs, the netherlands is one of europe s biggest emitters of harmful nitrogen, a potent greenhouse gas. with the desire to hit its 2030 climate goals, the dutch government proposed a number of measures designed to make farming more sustainable. but many farmers felt scapegoated. it s always about the farmers, so every time we had a problem and we had to reduce with nitrogen or carbon or whatever, it s always focused on the farms. and in the summer of 2022, protests ignited, thousands of farmers used their tractors to blocade highways and supermarket distribution centres. across europe, populist politicians have channelled this discontent to force the eu and member states to scale down climate legislation, by many considered to be central to decarbonisation. the key issues for dutch voters are migration, the cost of living and very much the green transition. in the drive to reduce co2 emissions, there s a lively debate over whether the eu is pushing too hard and too fast. what do we want? climate justice! and on the other side of the spectrum, climate activists have also been applying pressure. at a recent rally in the hague, winnie was among those calling for an end to government tax breaks and subsidies for high fossil fuel emitting companies. but she thinks the european union can help their cause. there s a big role for europe to play there because what we see is the dutch politics, dutch politicians have a hard time trying to satisfy their voters and still commit to the paris agreement. and that s a shame because that s the bare minimum that we need to do. among many young people, there is a shared frustration with the polarisation that infiltrates the climate debate. farmers as well will feel the effects of climate change and we need the farmers, so let s shake hands on this. we both want to have a clear perspective for the future, i so i think no—one has a clear solution to make one - clear policy in europe. in italy, too, conservative parties are expected to make big gains in election. brothers of italy, the party of the prime minister, giorgia meloni, is topping the opinion polls. she has moved away from a previously more far—right position, moderating in office, but she still takes a hard line on immigration, one of the issues voters are worried about. and she s struggling to boost the flagging birth rate and brain drain of young italians leaving the country. as i found out in latina, just south of rome. the big beasts of italian politics are lining up for their european battle. and at this farm south of rome, which rears 1,800 buffaloes, the question is whether change is afloat. it s a very italian family business, churning out exceptional mozzarella and ricotta. the grandson of the founder says the problems are many, from european farmers being undercut by non—eu countries to another long—standing italian issue. it s not that easy to find workers. medium salary in italy is not going up for a long time. and this is very sad because many times, younger university students prefer to not work because of this. it means they employ migrant workers to fill the gap, and there is no shortage there, with new arrivals soaring by 50% last year, despite the government promising to crack down. so, at the centre for young unaccompanied migrants, more keep coming and the town is feeling the strain. it s ok for now. the numbers we are receiving now. but i don t know in the future if they will increase more, if it will be ok or difficult. you are at your maximum point, do you think? maybe. yes, i think so. they put together pieces of broken lives in a country they will now call home. it cost 2000 euros to get here from burkina faso. translation: lots of africans think europe is a paradise, - but it is not true. now i tell people back home to stay there, but i know they will keep trying, and even if italy wants to stop the boats, it is impossible. so the to—do list is long for giorgia meloni, elected prime minister 18 months ago and still leading the polls. the main city here, latina, mirrors italy, with the same issues and the first woman in charge. translation: the meloni | government is working well. we have problems of the falling birth rate, for example, which affects all of europe. we used to passively accept migrants, but now we have a big say in managing flows. it is important that our party wins this election so we can put forward our ideas at a european level. behind italy s blustery beauty lies age—old problems, but what has changed here in the last 18 months is who is trying to solve them, with giorgia meloni dominating italian politics and hoping to further entrench her position after these european elections. but well beyond these shores, europe s other right—wing leaders are looking at her as a sort of figurehead, an example of what they, too, will hope to achieve. and so, a key moment for italy and for europe, a vote on how to navigate these rough times. well, across the eu, immigration, the economy and the environment are all big themes for voters in this election. that is also true in germany, the eu s largest economy, and with the largest population electing the highest number of meps. but abortion rights campaigners there say women s health issues are failing to get enough attention. 0ur corresponded jessica parker sent this report from hamburg. adriana volunteers to help improve abortion access. in germany, abortions are in reality permitted during early pregnancy, but remain technically illegal. when i read the penalty law, it really crushed me. because it really says you are still a criminal when you have an abortion. you can do it up until 12 weeks without being actually punished, but you are still kind of a criminal. and also, the law is written like they are trying to force you to think about it and to keep the pregnancy. so they are really pushing you in one direction. do you think this issue, women s health issues, have a prominent enough place in the public debate? of course not. women s issues are most of the time not the main priority. i would prefer if we had an eu law that ensures that everyone has access to safe abortions. even in wealthy liberal cities like hamburg, campaigners say women face barriers to abortion, while access across europe can significantly vary, from france where abortions have become a constitutional right to almost total illegality in poland and malta. abortion laws are set by member states, but in the last eu parliament, a majority of lawmakers called for access to be guaranteed across the bloc. it is a prime example of how some see the eu as an engine for social change, while others believe that brussels is already too interfering. it s up to the nations to say whether they want to have this or that particular abortion law, and the eu should not meddle with that. they have done that with other things, they try to interfere with nations sovereignty, and i think they should not push the nations too far. we have seen what happens when they do that, and when people pick up on those ideas in particular countries, you saw that in the uk, and they play it well, people may turn away on a larger scale from the european union, and that s not a good idea. this professor believes eu—wide change is a distant prospect. i think member states- focus very much on having competencies in criminal law, and especially in these - sensitive areas of abortion. the eu parliamentary elections are nowjust weeks away. if, as some polls predict, there is a rightwards shift, that may diminish calls for embedding abortion rights. as parties push very different visions of how far the eu should reach into people s lives. from the chilly climes of northern germany down to the boiling beaches of southern spain, the increasing difficulty of making ends meet is playing big in voters minds. spain is the eu s fourth largest economy, but it has the bloc s highest unemployment rate at around 12%, and among young people, it is also top, at almost 30%. in andalusia, away from the tourist hotspots, the country s biggest region is struggling with low wages, high unemployment and a lack of infrastructure. nick beek reports now from a city where one person in every four is out of work. in a perfect world, 20—year—old lucia would make a living doing what she loves, restoring furniture. today, it is this coat of arms. but it does not pay enough, and in her part of spain, finding anyjob is really hard. translation: i am working very hard to try to make a living - for what i love doing. i see my friends with full—time jobs only making 700 euros a month. they take advantage of the fact we are young because they know we are going to shut up and take whatever money they give us. in the city of algeciras, these people face a tough future. it feels like a bustling place, but 40% of young people cannot find a job. the highest rate in the whole country. the sky—high level of unemployment here means that there is huge scepticism that anything will change for the better after the european parliament elections in six weeks time. there are deep—rooted economic problems, and despite the vibrancy of this place, success stories are pretty hard to find. but this is one. business is good at the repair company. a 230—metre—long containership the latest vessel they re fixing. it s meant 21—year—old mario has been able to get a decent job, something that has eluded many of his friends. outside of the sector, it is difficult to have a permanent job. the contracts they are providing, a low—wage, short—term, they take a little bit of advantage of the people to save them money. one of the bosses says he would love to take on more workers, but the problem is that while so many young people need a job, theyjust don t have the expertise. we are the highest percentage of unemployed people - here and those people, we cannot get with us, | because they don t have the skills. - this city boasts the biggest port in spain, but does not feel the benefits. the eu is sending 140 million euros to the region to try to boostjobs, which may or may not win votes at the european elections. but it feels much bigger investment is needed here, particularly in roads, railways and other infrastructure, to turn the tide for this young generation. and so, to france, often seen as the other half of the power couple driving the eu, along with germany. but it, too, is seeing a surge in support for the far right, the national rally of marine le pen and her young co—leader has been towering over opinion polls at around twice the level of support of the nearest rival, the party of emmanuel macron. that could put the far right in a strong position ahead of the next french presidential election in 2027. 0ur paris correspondent hugh schofield has been finding out why this has all been happening, and he starts his report in a cathedral town around 160 kilometres south—east of paris. they are on a roll and they know it. they, the national rally, are so far ahead in the french polls that their biggest worry is supporters like these taking a massive victory for granted and not turning out. that is why the president has come to this market town. selfie hell, of course. this is the new face of france s far right. he is personable, popular and above all, very young, and atjust 28, he is leading the national rally in these elections to new heights. circumstances are helping. inflation is hurting. 0ut here in the provinces, president macron is unpopular. and now there has been a run of atrocious stories of violence among immigrant communities in schools, in the paris suburbs, a 15—year—old was beaten to death, seemingly by the brothers of a teenage girl angry that she was in contact with him. the case is not unique. for the national rally s newest star recruit, it translates into a popular demand for authority. this former head of the agency frontex says he was hounded out for trying to be tough. immigration is a factor in many of these cases of violence, he says. this is a cultural clash. the fact that some teenagers consider that their sister shall not talk to a boy, that this is a matter of honour, and this is not part of our culture. in france, it is not part of our culture. i m sure nowhere in continental europe or in the uk. back on the campaign trail, i asked jordan bardella where he thought the valance was coming from. translation: there is | a new savagery in society which means you might be attacked anywhere because you are not wearing the right kind of clothes or because you are in the wrong place at the wrong time. and now this violence is affecting the institutions of the state, like schools. his answer is to get tough, increase penalties, crackdown on illegal immigration. many, it seems, would agree. so, while voters in much of europe are focusing on their internal challenges, in some eu countries, it is what is happening outside — or, rather, beside their country — that is a priority, not least for poland, bordering ukraine, but also russia and belarus. although some other eu members in the east of the bloc, such as hungary and slovakia, have wavered in their commitment to assisting ukraine militarily, poland has been a firm voice against the threat of moscow. but there are signs of strain in its relation with kyiv and the conflict next door is having a political impact in poland, as our eastern europe correspondent reports. all along its northern border, poland is on alert. because on the other side here is russian territory that is heavily militarised. poland has taken the threat posed by its neighbour very seriously. ever since the full—scale invasion of ukraine. its constant warning is that vladimir putin will not stop there, so poland now plans to spend millions heightening security. prime minister donald tusk is making russia a big issue of european elections. reinforcing the border is about telling the enemy to stay away. and in polish schools, new security drills. getting prepared in case of an emergency. first lesson, evacuation. the training is run by soldiers with the territorial defence. it s partly about building confidence in the armed forces. partly learning skills to cope in a crisis. the teenagers we met here had no doubts why they were doing this. we are in danger. i m worried that the war will come to poland. russia is near to us - and they could attack us. i think. but fearing moscow does not always mean help for kyiv, not to those who spoiled this grain for ukraine at the polish border. the polish countryside is often a place of strong feelings. not all of them positive about the eu of kyiv. not all of them positive about the eu or kyiv. this man has been farming since he was 18. but he says ukrainian goods are starting to flood the market here, undercutting local produce and threatening his livelihood. translation: it looks like ukraine is fighting a war on two fronts, one with russia and one against polish farmers. an economic and agricultural war. if this continues, we willjust perish. we have no chance. it s not the economy, though, its security that is poland s big theme at these elections. the message that living next door to russia remains a risk. and that all europe needs to remain on guard. so, those are many of the issues particular to each country, and here is a particularity with the election itself. changes to the law in some eu member states mean that this year, 16 and 17—year—olds are able to vote. while in some countries, the youth vote leans towards the greens or the left, in many, there is an unprecedented support for the far—right among young voters, which is expected to help those parties make significant gains. sophia sent this report from the heart of the european union, in brussels. in some countries, like belgium, the voting age has been lowered to 16. do you think that the european elections matter? yes. it s a very big - opportunity for us. and i really like it because it gives us a voice that - we never had before. europe needs to be stronger because we cannot always trust nato. my history teachers are really saying that it would not - surprise me if something i would happen in the future, so that really scares me. and my future and thinking about my children, my - future children, i don t have children now. - but more young people going to the polls won t necessarily translate into support for the eu. in fact, an unprecedented number of young voters are siding with far—right, populist parties. the success of the far right among young people in part has to do with their positions on immigration or on anti—woke. but also, with their very successful social media strategy, especially on platforms such as tiktok. they also have this very clear antiestablishment discourse, and even a rebellious vibe, that can appeal to young voters. that rebellion blaring out in the capital of europe. hundreds of farmers have come to protest here at brussels with their tractors. they have come from lots of different countries and many of them are really young. as voting gets under way across europe, they want to send a strong message — that the eu just isn t listening to them. the reason why we vote for the right is that we have global issues that we don t know how we can take control of. we can actually solve the issues that the left tried to solve, but failed to do so. another issue that is driving them to the right is migration. there is a big issue when it. comes to security and when it comes to keeping in track of all of the people - that come in. so i think that europe does not have the capacity - to receive that many people. and that is why you are voting to the right? that is why i m - voting common sense. common sense or not, many young people feel that the more traditional parties are not listening to their concerns. and that disconnect is what could deliver the most significant victory to the far right since the eu was founded, more than half a century ago. so many challenges, and so much to play for. the 720 meps elected will take decisions on issues that affect all eu citizens, on everything from food standards to immigration, and climate targets to banking rules. and they will vote to decide who becomes president of the european commission, leading the institution for the next five years. the results are expected late on the last day of voting, sunday, the 9th ofjune. we will cover the twists and turns of this election right here on the bbc. but until then, from me, mark lowen, and the rest of our teams right across europe, thanks for watching. bye— bye. hello there. it s been a pretty decent start to the weekend. there was a good deal of sunshine around across most of the country. a bit of cloud here and there, a few showers mostly in the north. part two of the weekend doesn t look quite as good. it will start certainly quite chilly. but we ve got a couple of weather fronts pushing down from the north—west that will increase cloud through the day, with some splashes of rain. now, we ve got this weather front approaching the north—west of the country to move through this evening. showers merging together to produce longer spells of rain for the north and west of scotland. so unsettled, breezy, showery in the north, turning cloudier for northern ireland, but clearer skies for large parts of england and wales, with lighter winds here. so it will turn chilly for most. single digits, i think, for the majority of the country. but with more cloud across northern ireland, we will fall to around ten degrees in belfast. so sunday, then, we ve got low pressure still towards the norwegian sea there, bringing northern—westerly winds into the country. we start off with quite a bit of sunshine. scotland, england and wales, cloudy skies for northern ireland, south—west scotland, in towards north—west england, north wales. and that cloud, with splashes of rain, will spill south—eastwards through the day. so it will turn cloudy across much of england and wales, probably the best of the sunshine across the far south—west, and the northern half of scotland doing pretty well, with sunny spells. but there will be blustery showers here and a cooler day to come, i think, because of more cloud around — temperatures of about 12 to 17 degrees. as we move through sunday night, that area of rain splashes across the irish sea, into much of england and wales, becomes confined to southern and eastern areas by the end of the night. so where we have the cloud and the rain, then, a less cold night here, 10 to 12 degrees under clearer skies. further north, it will turn chilly. we start to pick up a northerly wind as we move into monday. that rain slowly clears away from the south and east. it may take a while to clear the east of england. eventually, it will do. then it s a bright day for most, sunshine and showers. most of these across the northern half of scotland, where they will be quite blustery and a chilly northerly wind at that. temperatures, 10 to 1a degrees in the north, 15 to 17 further south, giving some sunny spells. and we hold on to this chilly northerly wind through tuesday, even into wednesday as well. before low pressure starts to move in from the south—west, that ll cut off the chilly northerly and temperatures will slowly recover towards the end of the week. but it s going to be a fairly unsettled and a cool week to come, with a little bit of sunshine here and there. live from washington. this is bbc news. four israeli hostages abducted by hamas last october reunited with their families after israeli forces freed them from captivity in gaza. hamas reports more than 200 palestinians were killed in the raid by the idff. the raid by the idf. two hospitals say they have counted scores of bodies. we ll have the latest from the general election campaign — he as the conservatives are pledging tax cuts — and labour promises to help small businesses. hello, i m helena humphrey. glad you could join me. four israeli hostages taken by hamas during the october 7th attacks have now been reunited with their families. but israeli forces in gaza killed scores of palestinians in the military operation to free them. israeli special forces raided two locations in nuseirat, in central gaza in broad daylight. 0ne israeli soldier was killed. hamas says more than 200 palestinians were killed in the operation. an israeli military spokesman said there were under100 palestinian casualties. the eu s top diplomat condemned the israeli raid. the us president has also spoken out at a press conference during his state visit to france. i want to echo president macron s comments welcoming
hello, i m helena humphrey. glad you could join me. four israeli hostages taken by hamas during the october 7th attacks have now been reunited with their families. but israeli forces in gaza killed scores of palestinians in the military operation to free them. israeli special forces raided two locations in nuseirat, in central gaza in broad daylight. one israeli soldier was killed. hamas says more than 200 palestinians were killed in the operation. an israeli military spokesman said there were under 100 palestinian casualties. the eu s top diplomat condemned the israeli raid. the us president has also spoken out at a press conference during his state visit to france. i want to echo president macron s comments welcoming the return of the hostages to theirfamilies in israel. we won t stop working until they are all home. and they ceasefire it is reached.— and they ceasefire it is reached. . , ,, ., ., hugo bachega has more from tel aviv. a dramatic rescue and she s free again. 25—year—old noa argamani, captured by hamas on the 7th of october, and taken to gaza, is finally back in israel. she became one of the most well—known faces of this crisis. her kidnapping recorded in this video. today, her ordeal came to an end. this is her, reunited with her dad. translation: please don tl forget that there are another 120 hostages in captivity. we must release them and make every effort in any way to bring them to israel and theirfamilies. by the way, it s my birthday, look what a gift i got. also freed, andrei kozlov, who is 27. shlomi ziv, 40, and almog meirjan, 21. eight months ago, they were in the nova music festival in southern israel when hamas gunmen attacked. more than 360 people were killed here. this morning, the israeli military carried out a raid of the nuseirat refugee camp in central gaza. there were heavy airstrikes. special forces went in. the military said this was a complex operation and based on intelligence information. the four hostages, it said, were found at two separate locations in the heart of the camp and were brought out under fire. israeli forces have been preparing for this rescue mission for weeks. they underwent intensive training. they risked their lives to save the lives of our hostages. if there was relief in israel, the operation meant yet more suffering in gaza. at the al aqsa hospital in nearby deir al—balah, chaos and desperation. doctors struggled to treat all the wounded. many arrived already dead. translation: we were at home. a rocket hit us. _ my two cousins died and my other two cousins were seriously injured. they did nothing. they were sitting at home. the israeli prime minister, benjamin netanyahu, visited the freed hostages in a hospital near tel aviv. he s being urged to reach a ceasefire and hostage release deal with hamas. today s rescue could help lift some of the pressure. we can go to the former spokesman of the israel defence forces. ., ., , ., forces. now a member of the think tank — forces. now a member of the think tank which _ forces. now a member of the think tank which takes - forces. now a member of the think tank which takes a - forces. now a member of the think tank which takes a hard i think tank which takes a hard line against iran. thank you for being with us. i would like your reaction to the news of the hostages being released. good evening, thank you for having me. it is a glimmer of light in a sea of darkness and despair. forthe light in a sea of darkness and despair. for the first time in months, israelis have a moment to rejoice. and happy scenes of families being reunified. very happy to see it. i m very happy for the families getting their loved ones back after what must be the most horrible experience of eight months. sadly however we still have 120 hostages. we still have iranian proxies all around us aiming to kill israelis and to killjews. and we still have a lot of work to do to return to safety and security in israel. and as important as this event is, it is a drop in the ocean and there is still a lot of fighting left for us to be safe in our homeland.— in our homeland. there is concern — in our homeland. there is concern at _ in our homeland. there is concern at the _ in our homeland. there is concern at the death - in our homeland. there is concern at the death toll| in our homeland. there is - concern at the death toll among palestinians. do you think israeli forces anticipated the level of casualties incurred? i think the whole civilian issue here really needs to be analysed impartially and understood. according to the reports that i have got, and also the testaments and statements even made by hamas spokesperson, the israeli hostages were held by palestinian civilians in a palestinian civilians in a palestinian civilians in a palestinian civilian area. as forgettable as any loss of life is, we would have to investigate. —— is regrettable. who were the people who jailed these israelis for eight months? what was the role of the surrounding community of the surrounding community of the thousands of palestinians who were aware foreshore of the fact that israeli hostages were being held in their midst? why were they complicit with hamas? we don t know they were necessarily complicit with hamas. the casualties incurred, there are reports of women and children among the dead. it is appearing to be a high civilian death toll. would there have been a warning to those civilians for them to get out on time?— civilians for them to get out on time? ,, ., _, , on time? sure, of course, we cannot anticipate _ on time? sure, of course, we cannot anticipate israel - on time? sure, of course, we cannot anticipate israel to - on time? sure, of course, we cannot anticipate israel to be | cannot anticipate israel to be warning ahead of a grade two save hostages. because then the terrorists would kill the hostages, that would defeat the purpose. —— ahead of an attempt to save hostages. we do not know. in that all of the people who died today were directly related to the effort to hold israeli civilians in gaza for eight months. there was a significant firefight according to testimony of israeli soldiers. they were rpgs, heavy grenade fire, look it s being thrown, and we cannot rule out some of the alleged palestinian casualties were the result of reckless palestinian fire. it may have been israeli fire, but we don t know. the most important thing here, i think, again, just like we saw in rafah three months ago, israeli civilians were held hostage by palestinian civilians. hamas gunmen guarding as well, but the bottom line, we have complicity of palestinian civilians shot we have to say that we haven t been able to establish that at this stage. they will have to be a further investigation. are you concerned about the potential for this to jeopardise ceasefire plan? and of course the potential to see the rest of those hostages released, as you say? i of those hostages released, as ou sa ? ~ . of those hostages released, as ousa? , you say? i think a ceasefire is not an aim — you say? i think a ceasefire is not an aim to _ you say? i think a ceasefire is not an aim to aspire - you say? i think a ceasefire is not an aim to aspire to, - you say? i think a ceasefire is not an aim to aspire to, but l not an aim to aspire to, but victory is what israel aspires to. victory in order to defend israeli civilians to bring hostages back home. and they ceasefire in my humble opinion is defeat for israel and a victory for hamas. it is not what israelis aspire to do, because a ceasefire would mean an existing hamas and it would mean further attacks against israel months or perhaps a year from now, and that is not something i think we should aspire to. we should do everything possible, and the world should help israel, in getting the hostages back by applying pressure on hamas to release the hostages, civilians, women, children, and of course also the soldiers taken unlawfully from israel and held in captivity in gaza. i think that should be the focus, and that is what i think should be the centre of attention.— should be the centre of attention. ., ~ , ., ., , attention. thank you for being with us. thank _ attention. thank you for being with us. thank you _ attention. thank you for being with us. thank you for - attention. thank you for being with us. thank you for having | with us. thank you for having me. for more, i spoke with hugo bachega a short while ago. tell us more about that reaction you have been seeing from israel and from gaza, in light of the high civilian death toll that we appear to be seeing from the palestinian side. i think this is obviously going to lead to more criticism he is of the israeli military. we ve seen that these operations, many of them, by the israeli army result in large numbers of civilian casualties in gaza. but here in israel, obviously there have been celebrations across the country, but here in tel aviv, there was a huge protest with thousands of people who came here to tel aviv, to demand a deal with hamas for the remaining hostages to be freed. this is one of the key questions — what is going to happen with those ceasefire and hostage release negotiations? the israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu has been under pressure to accept a proposal put forward by president biden a week ago — a proposal he described as an israeli proposal. this would see not only the release of the hostages, but would also pave the way for a permanent ceasefire in gaza, which is a contentious point here in israel. we have seen that there has been opposition from many in the country, including some members of the coalition government, including far right ministers itamar ben—gvir and bezalel smotrich, who have threatened to quit the government. if they do so, this could lead to the end of the governing coalition. so this rescue operation has been considered a success by the israeli authorities, and could perhaps change the calculations of the prime minister, who is under pressure from all sides. let s talk more about the pressure prime minister netanyahu has been under. we know benny gantz today was due to hold a press conference. he called it off. how do you read that? does it tell us anything about the stability and the unity of the government? this is very interesting, because this was a deadline imposed by benny gantz. he had demanded a plan by benjamin netanyahu for gaza, and he said if there was no plan, he would quit the government. he has been facing a lot of pressure from members of his own party who say he should return to the opposition. obviously we focus a lot on benny gantz, because he is seen as a possible candidate to be the next prime minister in the next elections in israel. so now he has cancelled this statement. he was widely expected to announce his decision to leave the government. after the rescue operation, the prime minister benjamin netanyahu asked benny gantz to reconsider his decision. so i think there was a fear here that with the decision by benny gantz to leave the government, this could give more power to those radical far right ministers in the government. but it seems that, for now, this crisis has been averted. talking about this rescue operation and having unfolded, and the high civilian death toll we have seen on the palestinian side, ijust want to get your assessment about what you think it means for any potential agreement and success of that ceasefire proposal. yeah, so we know the us secretary of state antony blinken is returning to the region. he will be in egypt, israel, jordan and qatar. i think the idea of this trip is to put more pressure on both israel and hamas for a deal to be reached. i think one of the most contentious points of the plan put forward by president biden was the idea of a permanent ceasefire. so hamas is demanding that any kind of deal leads to a permanent ceasefire. in other words, the end of the war. because they want a guarantee that the israeli military is not going to return to gaza once the hostages are released. and continue with this military operation against the group. and the idea of a permanent ceasefire again is a divisive point in israel. the prime minister has been saying the goals remain the same, and that is to destroy the military capabilities of hamas, the ability of the group to continue to govern gaza, and there has been lots of opposition from some of his allies and from many in this country. so it is a very difficult position for the prime minister, and these negotiations have been extremely difficult as well. the indications are there hasn t been any kind of breakthrough after days of mediated talks between israel and hamas. in the aftermath of the raid, our correspondent rushdi abualouf has been speaking to palestinians in gaza. yeah, i think the people were quite angry about the number of people killed in this rescue operation. some of them, they have told me that hamas should have accepted the ceasefire proposal that had been in the table for quite a long time. and instead of, like, you know, going in and killing people to get the hostages, they could have been released for also an exchange of some of the palestinian prisoners in the israeli jail. some of the people were also expressing their views towards the other side. they were defending hamas and they said what happened is very little comparing to the period of this war, eight months. i mean, one person told me that they managed to rescue four people after four months, and this is very little achievement where they have been defeated many times in very places and hamas was able to kill some of them. so very, you know, they divide palestinian as always. they are always divided about the issue of hamas. many people are supporting what hamas is doing in gaza and they keep defending them. but today we noticed that many, many people in a very rare way were criticising hamas. and one person, he lost his family, as far as i remember, two months ago, in one of the air strikes. he wrote in his facebook and he said, why keeping hostages among a very crowded refugee camp in a market and put all of the people s life in risk? and some went more far and they said those who are sitting in the doha in qatar and controlling our life should go home. here in washington dc, pro—palestinian protesters gathered in front of the white house to demand that presidentjoe biden push for an immediate ceasefire in gaza. meanwhile in tel aviv, the rescue of the four hostages did little to mollify anti—government activists. they held their regular saturday night protest, demanding fresh elections and a deal to free all the remaining hostages. president biden has been hosted for a state dinner in france as a commemoration of the d—day landings. there was a parade at the champs—elysees. and a visit to the tomb of the unknown soldier and a meeting with business leaders. they held a press conference on saturday and during his speech, president biden also spoke about the war in ukraine, saying the russian president vladimir putin is not going to stop at ukraine. our two countries stand with the ukrainian people as they fight off putin s brutal aggression. yesterday i announced $225 million of assistance to ukraine, the sixth package since we signed the national security legislation earlier this year. i wish we could have done it when we wanted, six months earlier, but we got it done. $61 billion in additional aid to ukraine. and i commend france and our european allies for their leadership as well. the eu has provided over $107 billion in assistance to ukraine since the war began. because we know what happens if putin succeeds in subjugating ukraine. and we won t... you know, putin won t stop at ukraine. it s notjust ukraine, it s about much more than ukraine. all of europe will be threatened. we re not going let that happen. the us is standing strong with ukraine, with our allies, and with france. we will not walk away — i say again, we will not walk away. the man who assaulted the danish prime minister has been remanded in custody for 12 days. the 39—year—old polish man is said to have been drunk and under the influence of drugs at the time of the attack in copenhagen on friday night. the man is reported to have struck mette fredriksen on the shoulder, causing her to stumble and suffer minor whiplash injuries. in a statement the prime minister says she is shaken but fine . in the uk, parties are back on the campaign trail following last night s seven—way debate. the conservatives are pushing a permanent cut to stamp duty and labour is outlining its position i lljust try and get the sign in! rishi sunak was putting a brave face on the events of the past few days. is this taking over from those fidget spinners? he was keen to move on from his d—day apology with an announcement to make temporary tax relief for first—time homeowners permanent. but his ministers were still having to fight on the political beaches... the prime minister has made a mistake, he s apologised for it and has apologised to those who would have been particularly hurt by it. so how has the prime minister s misstep gone down on the doorstep? we have been talking to conservative candidates, some have spoken about anger and disappointment. one of them despairingly said, whatever is going to happen next? will the prime minister s trousers fall down? others said voters haven t raised the issue at all, and one candidate said that those who are so vexed by this have already defected to labour or reform. elections are often about political theatre, but the snp say, in this campaign, the main westminster parties are sidestepping difficult decisions. the biggest issue that s not been spoken about is the fact there are £18 billion worth of cuts agreed to by the conservatives and endorsed by the labour party, and they are coming down the track towards us. but what about raising revenue? labour say, if they form the next government, then, just like the conservatives, they won t be able to increase tax thresholds in line with inflation any time soon. we will inherit the _ government s spending plans. i will be candid — there - are in those plans tax rises. i mean, the personal allowance, the personal allowance we all. get in terms of our income tax, that is set to be frozen - for several years. but the lib dems are courting voters with spending pledges, including a multi—billion—pound plan to plant 60 million trees a year. this is a capital investment over the next five years. you re right — it is a significant investment. but i believe this is hugely important for our environment. it will help the fight against climate change. the main parties are preparing to launch their manifestos this week. only then will we know how well their policies will connect with the voters. iain watson, bbc news. the wife of the missing tv presenter michael mosley says his family refuses to lose hope. efforts are continuing to find the 67—year—old, on the greek island of symi, where he s been missing since wednesday. just a few hours working on the hills of symi is enough to leave you exhausted. that is why there is such concern that michael mosley may still be up here after more than three days. the major search operation to find the missing broadcaster has today focused on the hills to the north of the village of pedi. so that search and rescue helicopter has been circling for maybe half an hour or so. there s been a huge amount of emergency services activity focused on those hills, and that s because we know from cctv taken at this spot that, on wednesday at about 1:30pm, two o clock, michael mosley passed this road and headed into those hills. the search is focusing on the hills because, finally, a picture has emerged of michael mosley s movements. he left the beach where he d been with his wife, clare, at about 1:30 on wednesday. he was then picked up on a camera at a coffee shop here. a second one at a restaurant here, and then, finally, the one at the marina, before he is thought to have headed into the hills. the disappearance of michael mosley has been a major story in greece. here on symi, locals have even joined the search, as have british holiday—makers. this morning, she came in my room and said, let s go and look for michael. it would have been terrible. we know the paths, so we... we re just staying there. we re within 2km of where he s got to be, so it was, feeling quite helpless. at the heart of this is not just michael mosley, but his family as well. today, his wife clare released a statement... nor, it seems, will the greek authorities. they say they will continue their search until michael mosley is found. the world health organisation is warning that help is urgently needed to prevent the collapse of the healthcare system in syria. it says half of all medical staff has fled the country. and those still there are working in conditions last seen hundreds of years ago. syria has faced 13 years of civil war, sanctions and a major earthquake just last year. demonstrators were out in the capital of hungary today, protesting against the ruling fidesz party ahead of sunday s european parliament elections. demonstrations against populist and far right parties have also been organised in other european countries, among them germany. european elections are currently happening in 27 countries across four days. the man behind the lens of this iconic photo of earth has passed away. bill anders took the photograph. it came to be known as earthrise in 1968, one of the most memorable and inspirational photos. it is credited with kick—starting the modern environmental movement. he died in a solo plane crash on friday at 90 years old. before we go, june marks pride month, and celebrations have kicked off all around the world on saturday. here in washington dc, these are the scenes as thousands celebrate with the lgbtq+ community. you are watching bbc news, more at the top of the hour. hello there. it s been a pretty decent start to the weekend. there was a good deal of sunshine around across most of the country. a bit of cloud here and there, a few showers mostly in the north. part two of the weekend doesn t look quite as good. it will start certainly quite chilly. but we ve got a couple of weather fronts pushing down from the north—west that will increase cloud through the day with some splashes of rain. and we ve got this weather front approaching the north—west of the country to move through this evening. showers merging together to produce longer spells of rain for the north and west of scotland. so unsettled, breezy, showery in the north, turning cloudier for northern ireland, but clearer skies for large parts of england and wales with lighter winds here. so it will turn chilly for most, single digits, i think, for the majority of the country. but with more cloud across northern ireland, we will fall to around ten degrees in belfast. so sunday, then, we ve got low pressure still towards the norwegian sea there, bringing northern—westerly winds into the country. we start to have quite a bit of sunshine. scotland, england and wales, cloudy skies for northern ireland, south—west scotland in towards north—west england, north wales. and that cloud with splashes of rain will spill south—eastwards through the day. so it will turn cloudy across much of england and wales, probably the best of the sunshine across the far south—west, and the northern half of scotland doing pretty well with sunny spells. but there will be blustery showers here and a cooler day to come, i think, because of more cloud around, temperatures of about 12 to 17 degrees. as we move through sunday night, that area of rain splashes across the irish sea into much of england and wales, becomes confined to southern and eastern areas by the end of the night. so where we have the cloud and the rain, then, a less cold night here, 10 to 12 degrees under clearer skies. further north, it will turn chilly. we start to pick up a northerly wind as we move into monday. that rain slowly clears away from the south and east. it may take a while to clear the east of england. eventually it will do that. it s a bright day for most, sunshine and showers. most of these across the northern half of scotland, where they will be quite blustery and a chilly northerly wind at that. temperatures, 10 to 1a degrees in the north, 15 to 17 further south, giving some sunny spells. and we hold on to this chilly northerly wind through tuesday, even into wednesday as well. and before low pressure starts to move in from the south—west, that ll cut off the chilly northerly and temperatures will slowly recover towards the end of the week. but it s going to be a fairly unsettled and a cool week to come with a little bit of sunshine here and there. this is bbc news. we will have the headlines for you at the top of the hour, which is 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