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that's the value of ownership. reporter: paul bernardo is charged with 43 sex-related offenses in connection with the scarborough rapist case. reporter: how's your family coping? as well as can be expected. hemsworth: it seemed like an unlikely perpetrator. he appeared to be an accomplished person. he was married to an attractive wife and lived in a nice subdivision in st. catharines. reporter: karla homolka was ravishingly blonde and beautiful, and her husband was the clean-cut, handsome boy with a glittering career ahead of him. kenzora: karla homolka grew up in st. catharines with her parents and two sisters. shlosberg: karla was the oldest sister. she had a younger sister, lori, and then she also had tammy, who was her baby sister. kenzora: karla loved animals, worked at pet stores, and then at a vet clinic, and, you know,

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FOX and Friends

ago, that was just, you know, two, three years ago. it's hard to believe that that young woman sitting next to you is that little baby. >> i'm tatum's mom but it is so hard to believe these tiny babies grew up all these years they were friends and all these milestones they reached together, including their senior -- her senior prom that their bond was that influential that she wanted to take him with her. >> steve: yeah, that's absolutely right. laura. lori, how did you feel about this? >> oh, i was -- when i found out that tatum asked leighton to the prom, i had become a puddle. i was just so thankful and excited that what had brought them to this moment. it was amazing. i had to just walk away when he told me. i was a puddle. >> steve: what do you mean you were a puddle? just because the kids had been on such a journey together? >> yes, just because of the, you

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pictures. tatum let's start with you. this was actually your idea, right? >> yes, it was. >> steve: so what did you want to do? >> well, i thought it would be fun and it would be something new to try and we've always liked hanging out so i figured i would invite him to my prom and have a lot of fun. >> steve: okay. and leighton, you obviously accepted. >> yeah. >> steve: you guys have been friends -- is it hard to wrap your head around the idea, i was in a nicu unit bed two beds over from her 17 years ago and now here we are going to the prom? >> i mean, yeah, it's kind of a crazy experience just thinking about like how fast time goes and where you were to where you are now. >> steve: such a good point because, lori, i'm sure you look at the pictures of your daughter in the nicu unit and it's got to seem like that wasn't 17 years

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Alex Wagner Tonight

ill meal address and his company at the time, which was publicly available, i think the chances are more likely that someone uses identity. if he was going to do the fraudulent way, harassing way, why would he do so under his own identity? it just doesn't make sense. >> so, kristen wagner, the president of the conservative christian legal nonprofit alliance defending freedom and the lawyer who argued this before the supreme court responded to your reporting on a press call earlier. she called it untrue. i wanna play for here is just a part of what she had to say. listen. >> lori received a website request, design request, from a third party. even colorado agreed. it is not her responsibility, nor is she able to do background checks on those who she is receiving these background checks are from. colorado's told her she declines in any way, it requests like this, she puts herself in the crosshairs of this law. so, again, it's undisputed that

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it was argued at the supreme court because the web design community were discussing it in the context of their own work and what it might mean. so, given the fact that this is an inquiry made with his real name, real phone number, real ill meal address and his company at the time, which was publicly available, i think the chances are more likely that someone uses identity. if he was going to do the fraudulent way, harassing way, why would he do so under his own identity? it just doesn't make sense. >> so, kristen wagner, the president of the conservative christian legal nonprofit alliance defending freedom and the lawyer who argued this before the supreme court responded to your reporting on a press call earlier. she called it untrue. i wanna play for here is just a part of what she had to say. listen. >> lori received a website request, design request, from a third party. even colorado agreed. it is not her responsibility, nor is she able to do background checks on those who she is receiving

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the ceo and president of a faith-based legal organization that won 15 cases at scotus and assisted in the legal team that overturned roe v. wade. lori, thank you for being here. hypothetical for you. if a gay man who is a realtor asked you to design a website for his business, are you taking that job? >> of course. and it's not a hypothetical. i have clients who identify as lgbtq. i work with clients from all walks of life. i can't create every message requested of me. >> you do a great job. t hypothetical number two. you do a great job for a man and woman kgetting married. a same-sex couple see the website you create and say we want exactly that. just change the pictures and change the date. don't do anything else. give us what you gave them. how about that? >> i don't specialize in that type of speech. everything i create is enuke and

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one of a kind. i am always looking the message i am being asked to create. what's important to emphasize here for the last seven years the state of colorado has been silencing and coercing my speech and forcing me to create a message i don't wish to create. nobody should be put in that position and the court's decision yesterday protects speech, not just for me, for the lgbtq website designer and every other artist out there. nobody should be punished by the government for speaking consistent with their beliefs. >> counselor, i see you shaking your head. let me ask you a question. i read the opinion last night. it's great reading the majority and minority view and i recommend americans interested take the time to do so. it's written mostly in plain speak. i thought before i read it that this was going to be largely predicated on lori's religious beliefs and that is not my takeaway. it's about her speech but makes me wonder, okay, what about

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wants them to say. that's the test that we will continue to apply. the court didn't create new law. they applied it in a cultural moment where some disagree with lori's message. it's important to stick to protecting freedom because political and cultural winds shift. if the government can compel lori, it can compel the lgbtq website designer as well. we need to remember that. >> this is a law school dream, this case. lori, a final one for you. think of the pharmacist called upon to fill a prescription for birth control who has a religious objection to doing so. i would say, hey, you chose to be a pharmacist and if it you have trouble providing this service, maybe this is not a gig for you. what about someone who says if you want to be a web designer, you've got to serve everybody and your religion can't come into it. you get the final word. >> i create speech for a living. when speech is involved, speech should be protected. this protects not just me, but

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different facts. like you said, americans should read the decision and decide for themselves. >> okay. i am in my hypothetical, counselor, i am an atheist and i am in one of these ancillary businesses and when couples get together in a non-religious environment or ceremony i am going to provide my services. wait a minute. this is a religious wedding? i don't want a part of that. is that okay? >> well, i am not sure what your atheist is doing. what matters is are -- >> i am a florist. i am a photographer. i am a web designer or a baker. i am an atheist and i only provide services for fellow atheists even though i hold myself out to the public. >> it's about what the speech is that's being requested. lori has always made distinctions based on what the message is that she is asked to give voice to and that's a critical distinction that the court reaffirmed. the test has always been whether the speaker's message is affected by what the government

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