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Alex Witt Reports

stormy daniels. trump appears to be testing the judge and the order. violated in the civil case for sort of dancing the line posts and whatnot, posts and comments. it remains to be seen whether the judge will drop the hammer on him. but it is definitely -- he is definitely testing the judge's patience at this point. >> a lot of us were watching how he might riff, what he said last night. if you would go out there at the rally and how many more violations he could have garnered doing that but of course, that was canceled due to the weather. witness wise, who do you think poses the greatest threat to donald trump? or a threat to donald trump? a lot of people say michael cullen. you have referenced him as well. david becker has got the goods.

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the judge is going out of his way to make sure everyone involved in this case is safe, or as safe as they can be. >> the times today's raising the question, will a mountain of evidence be enough to convince -- convict trump, meaning they're asking prosecutors that if a husband hired hitman to kill his wife, the husband is just as guilty as the man who killed the trigger. do you think it is a slamdunk case for the prosecution? >> not a slamdunk but i do think it's a strong case. you have michael cohen, transformer fixer at the center of this. he knows where the bodies are buried and there is corroboration. although trump will call him a convicted perjure her and he did go down the line but he was lying for donald trump and he got others like the former head of the national enquirer who will corroborate. he will be the first witness tomorrow. that will be a powerful witness. plus a trump loyalist who is supposed to corroborate cohen's

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even if he wanted to because he is required to be at the criminal trial in the world. that would really irk judge marchand if he decided to come in late to spend time over at the other courthouse. >> you're right. i probably would not go over too well. the first order of business tomorrow is judge marchand's ruling on the so-called sandoval hearing. if trump takes the stand, prosecutors want to ask him about the e. jean carroll defamation and sexual abuse cases as well as the former fraud judgment. what are you hearing about trump's claim that he wants to testify? does he really want to do it? >> not a chance. he has said this in other cases. the e. jean carroll case. he said this about the mueller report. he does not testify. is not going to testify. was hearing that will determine what prosecutors can use against trump, it's like asking, how would you spend $1 billion if you were a billionaire? i would say it doesn't matter because i'm not a billionaire and i'm not going to become

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Alex Witt Reports

for the judge, so quickly with jury selection. a lot of people did not think it would happen this fast but you don't need to find empty vessels or blank slates. you can have people who have impressions about trump. you have to promise under oath that they can set them aside, be fair and impartial and full of the evidence and the law. >> you make a point. this time last week, we talked about the potential for two weeks of selected juries here. i know you've written about how there trying in the new york courthouse before. it has been a spectacle. what can you tell us about the steps being taken to protect jurors and witnesses? >> what we know the judge is doing to protect witnesses and jurors is that he is keeping the jury's name anonymous. we sat there for an entire week listening to the life story of many people who were jury

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felt with him sitting there? >> i think so. it made the whole thing feel more real. >> jordan now, and a state attorney from florida and near court reporter with the washington post. i welcome you both. dave, what is your sense of the fallout for not just prospective jurors who have brief experiences in the courtroom with trump, but also the jurors who are now going to come face-to-face with him over the next six weeks or so? >> it is imposing for these jurors but that's the beauty of our system. ordinary americans, a jury of his peers that get to decide his fate and he can complain all he wants outside to sycophants, the right-wing media, has audiences but inside the courtroom, the judge is in charge and the jury makes the final decision. i think it's an impressive feat

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candidates, and there was at one point, he made a request of us, you know, the press covering the trial to refrain from reporting any specific details about where the jurors work or previously worked because that was proven to be somewhat identifying. it was, in the judge's impression, becoming a problem. he is both trying to keep these people anonymous, although they do seem to be under instructions in the courthouse on their own sometimes. they have court officers pick them up off-site. that doesn't seem like what's happening. there bring themselves to the courthouse, but there's also the witnesses who are going to have extra security, going to have the security detail coming in and out at the very least.

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testimony. you don't have to prove election interference. you have to show that there was a falsification of a business record that led to committing another crime like a campaign crime. as long as they show that he knew about what was going on and he knew what was going on than he should go down for this. >> you saw in the new york times article that david would be the first witness. we cannot verify that but it's something we can go with at this point, attributing it to the new york times. while trump sits in for the hush money trial tomorrow, another judge will hear an application to reject the $175 million bond in the civil fraud judgment. how close are these courtrooms? is there any chance that trump ducks into this court? could that happen? >> that's an interesting question. it's a two minute walk down center street. i don't think he can do that

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that could provide president biden with a bit of news. joining me now, reverend al sharpton, host of politics nation and president of the national action network and someone i love claiming to be a good friend of mine. we will get to the pole in just a second. first, donald trump was in your hometown court this week. the city where he rose to fame. there are no cameras in this courtroom, but donald trump cannot escape the spectacle. what are you making of all of it? >> i think the one is his natural inclination to turn everything into a showpiece for him. that's part of his narcissism, but i also think it's a strategy where he is trying to provoke a mistrial, or set up some level of a legal argument for a mistrial. if he can get the judge to respond in a way that would be over the line in engaging back and forth with him, all of this can add to an appeal if, in

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specific surprise result. how it might change the campaign in the glare of the spotlight for some of the fixtures. it's too hot. what of those make the cut. a day to all of you from the world headquarters here in new york. welcome. donald trump on trial in less than 24 hours, returning to the defendant sharon in manhattan criminal courtroom. judge marchand will roll on prior bad acts that the prosecutors could bring up a prosecutors take the stand and he has many case. and after, the first witness will be called to give testimony against him. the identity of the witnesses the source of intense speculation today. prosecutors agreed to give defense lawyers one witness name only if it did not share it with trump. happening tomorrow, a hearing

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defendant for speaking out of turn. on top of that, trump has been, to my mind, flagrantly violating the gag order against him that prohibits him from speaking about jurors, court, staff, prosecutors in the case. yesterday prosecutors urged judge marchand to hold trump in contempt for those violations. the judge said he would not rule on that until next week. then a truly horrifying scene during lunch break. a man set himself on fire. police identified the man's as max azzarello from new york. he remains in critical care in the hospital tonight. the court did manage to continue after that interruption holding what is called a sandoval hearing,

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