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romney's getting money from this kind of a person. >> from this kind of guy, and this is what you found in divorce records. also one other thing that's interesting here, megyn s that, you know, often i have been told that the way these people are hired is they're not outright hired by these organizations. often the organizations will give money to a more reputable-looking company. megyn: what did the campaign say? did you reach tout the obama campaign on the appropriateness of this? >> no one has heard, as far as i know, anything from the campaign, and we haven't sent anything back from fusion gps and did ask who is paying you to do this, and i haven't had an answer to this. megyn: we'll keep waiting. >> okay. megyn: kim, thank you. >> thank you. megyn: we have reports from our southern border today about brutal new violence by the drug cartels, more than four dozen decapitated bodies is just the latest sign that the fight for control of the u.s. drug trade
by specifically gun walk is mentioned. gun walking or the gun walking? it's when you let guns walk, you know they are contraband, and that you have a legal right to seize them either arrest or seize them with a search warrant and you let them go. you don't do surveillance on them, you don't put gps on them. you literally let them walk. megyn: let me stop you there. i want to read the memo. there is a series of emails back on october of 2010. this is well before holder says that he knew about "operation fast & furious" and the controversial stuff. the deputy assistant attorney general in the criminal division is corresponding with the acting chief of the organized crime and gang section. one of them write to the other. it's not going to be any figure
the crib. and as you heard the mom say, they frantically went around the house. as the mom said, the cell phones -- three of them on the counter -- were all gone. and lisa's room looked like nothing had happened, nothing had been moved and nothing else appeared to have been moved. now remember, the initial theory was, megyn, that they had -- someone had broken into the window, i want to show you what we're talking about here. you can see the two police officers in front of lisa irwin's window. look how low that is. it pushes up from the bottom to the top. you can see from how tall they are, and they're also stepping on a planter box, it would be fairly easy to slide inside that window. the police are saying there were no signs of forced entry, the question is would there have to be forced entry to get inside there? here's what police are now saying about the investigation. listen. >> the truth is the family that you just listened to, they've been cooperative with us since the get o go.
expand on it? >> what happened was the mother and father found out that we were back in the woods again. they thought there was a new development and they rushed over to the command post to find out what was going on. megyn: was there a new development? >> no. you know, i have said many times. we have been in that wooded area quite a few times. after they got to look at it and talking about it more, there is a part of that wooded area that is thickly wood and they wouldn't 100% satisfied they covered it enough. megyn: why were the voices raised and the hands nailing? >> the on thing i can imagine is first all wasn't there for the conversation. but if you are the mother after missing child and you think there is a development, i would expect anybody probably to go as fast as they could to the command post to find out what was going on.
megyn: the attorney general of the united states facing tough questions about what of did or did not know about a gun running sting that went wrong. it went so wrong a border patrol agent could be wrong as a result. rinse to jay carney's response to the republican request fear special counsel to investigate this. >> there has been one call, i think it's a biannual call from this congressman. the attorney against testimony was consistent and truthful. he said in may he became aware of the questionable tactics employed by "operation fast & furious" when atf acts first raised them publicly. megyn: we'll talk to a former attorney who worked with the justice department. he is one of those calling for a
candidates for president. during a news conference president obama defending what he calls the frustration americans have with wall street and attacking gop candidates for their financial plans. take a listen. >> you have got republican presidential candidates whose main economic policy proposals is we'll get rid of the financial reform that are designed to to prevent the abuses that got us into this mess in the fir place. that does not make sense to the american people. they are frustrated by it. and they will continue to be frustrated by it until they get a sense that everybody is playing by the same set of rules. and that you are rewarded for responsibility and together right thing as opposed to game the system. megyn: joining me is form utah governor and presidential candidate john huntsman. was the president talking about you. >> i'm sure he was among others. he's not talking to the same
this situation where they said you can't win here. you have to cut spending, you have to cut the deficit which incidentally economists agree in a recession economy, that's the time when you, like it or not, need government. republicans say you've got to do it, so obama has two choices -- megyn: they want to put money finish. >> cut the middle class or raise taxes on the rich. megyn: it's ideologically inconsistent. should you be for spending and no new taxes? because the president is saying, let's spend, and let's hike taxes, one of which would put money into the economy, and one of which would take it out. >> actually, it does neither. i'm sorry, it does one of the two. it redistricts wealth from one quarter to another, and it takes -- megyn: aren't they wealthy enough? >> they're wealthy enough. megyn: that's what the president says. they have a lot of money. >> if you taxed by the numbers, not the talking points, if you taxed everybody in all those categories including 100,000-naires, you couldn't do anything about the problem. megyn: we don't like the rich.
but they continue to cooperate with the police. everything is fine. they just assumed that maybe we had a big break and they wanted to finding out what it was. megyn: a family member of the parents is telling us the parents -- something hopeful happened today because the parent said something about having a name suggested to them that refreshed their memory and they wanted to communicate that to the police. can you tell us about that? >> i can't confirm that. i don't have information on that figure detail. by that probably is true. it make sense. as time goes by i imagine they are jogging their brain to think of any person they haven't told us about. it make sense, and the same thing is going on. we'll check out any lead we get. and unfortunately nothing panned out yet. megyn: they discovered all three of their cell phone were
had cordoned off. they were focusing on sunnyvale, just a few miles from where the shooting happened yesterday. listen to what police are saying about the identification. >> we don't have an id yet. all we can say is that the physical description is similar to the suspect we were looking for for the shootings in cupertino yesterday, but we can't confirm that. >> reporter: the shooting in cupertino yesterday, he's talking about going to the quarry. shareef allman went to his safety meeting, 4:15 in the morning. he left the meeting, then came back heavily armed. he shot and killed three of his coworkers, six others, then he ran to a hewlett-packard a mile away, tried to carjack a woman, shot her in the leg. he fled that scene and was holed up in that cooper tee know -- cooper teen know/sunnyvale area for the past 27 hours. as soon as we get an id, we'll get it on the air to you, but police are very strongly believing that this is, in fact, shareef allman. megyn: trace, thanks.
americans i'm talking to. they want a level playing field. they want a level playing field on fox policy, regulatory reform and they are not getting it. because there is so much red tape and uncertainty and it's so unpredictable in the marketplace, nobody is deploying capital expenditures into the market and people aren't hiring. it's specifically because of dodd-frank. megyn: the president says dodd-frank reins in wall street. >> let's look at the capital requirements hoisted on small businesses. let's look at the bank that get get to the life blood our economy. let's look at the too big to fail notion. the idea that a largest bank ultimately will look like public utilities. that impacts the cost of capital for small businesses. it leads to more bailouts.