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like this is -- but i always knew he had strange -- i don't know. he was strange. he was strange. >> yeah. papo ruiz, thank you very much indeed for joining me. coming up next, the monster next door, i'll talk to two of the suspect's neighbors coming up. and later, the man who helped nab the real silence of the lambs killer to talk about the castro case. all stations come over to mission a for a final go. this is for real this time. step seven point two one two. verify and lock. command is locked.
puerto rican, where people know each other. everybody knows each other. everybody cares about each other. there's a special interconnectedness between families that spans generations. people are in each other's business. sometimes even too much, as somebody who grew up in a community very similar to this one can attest to. just to put this in perspective, you can walk to the corner right now and say to anybody, where can i find papol? if you grew up in a latino family, you know that everybody has a papol. sometimes two or three. oh, yes, papol, he jones the restaurant. i think that ariel castro was so good as fooling everybody because of the double life he led, but also people are trusting because they genuinely care about one another here, piers. >> here's something from the
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also, a homecoming ten years in the making. michelle knight is finally out of hospital released today. along with amanda berry, and gina dejesus, she is free after years of unspeakable crimes committed by ariel castro. a man many considered a monster. who is he? how could he or anyone do this? you'll hear from friends or neighbors and his former band leader, and how his constant rejection from women may have played a sinister report. we'll begin with woio reporters who have been covering this extraordinary case from the beginning. let me start with you, if i may, scott. i'm fascinated by this letter. i first knew about this because you tweeted about it. i want you to bring me up to speed with what is in this letter and how significant it may turn out to be in understanding the kind of person ariel castro is? is >> i think, when investigators
getting harder and harder to find. relatives say ariel was raised by his mother and didn't get along with his father. he dropped out of school in the tenth grade. ariel taught himself to play bass, and he joined a band, playing salsa and merengue in clubs around town. he was popular with band mates. that's where bianca cruz met him as a child. >> i remember going to concerts and spending time with the band backstage. >> friends saw two very different ariel castros, the one who came alive on stage, and the other shy and caring offstage. >> it was always him playing with hi hair, him being super nice to me. you wouldn't picture, you wouldn't imagine he'd do something like this. >> reporter: but he could be incredibly violent. in 2005, castro was accused of savagely beating his wife, breaking her ribs, her nose, dislocating her shoulders, and triggering a blood clot on the brain, all the while threatening to kill her and her daughter.
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the girls and for the blessing of that 6-year-old girl, that beautiful 6-year-old girl, but as a member of the neighborhood, as a neighbor, that's just how i feel. >> i completely understand how you feel, and your emotions are absolutely understandable. it must be an awful feeling to know that this devil was lurking right in the middle of your -- and my heart goes out to all of you. it must be a shocking discovery. let me come to you. between 2011 and 2012, you say you saw ariel castro regularly in his backyard and garage with a young girl, a young girl that we almost certainly believe was the girl he fathered with amanda berry. tell me about that. >> like i said, when i was back there, he just the factor of it all, if i was in my backyard, he could be right on top of you staring at you, and you look and
knew the dejesus family, knew felix, but didn't realize gina was his daughter. and he also didn't know that felix was a classmate of him until seeing what's going on tv, obviously, and then we reached out to felix today, just to make sure if that was true or not, and felix dejesus said, yeah, i did go to lincoln west high school in cleveland with him briefly, but we were not best buddies. >> okay. you've got new information about the questioning of ariel castro today. tell me about that and where he's being held and what kind of condition he's in mentally about all this. >> here's what i'm hearing about the interrogation. ariel castro never fully confesseded but yet he never really denied anything either. he tried to justify or explain what happened, even pass off
coming clean unless he's trying to talk his way out of it. right now he is sitting in jail. he's in a solo cell by himself. it's a very small cell with just a small bed, really a piece of metal with a slight mat on it, a toilet, and a place to look out a window, and that's a glass block window. so you can't really see out of that. and a tiny little window about this big that looks out into the cell. if he looks out into the cell, he's going to see a guard watching him because he's under security suicide precaution, they call it, basically, a suicide watch. there's a guard watching him, a guard watching other cells in the pod. the other prisoners in that pod will have time for tv time. they'll also have time for exercise time, not castro, at least not yet. >> he's had dna tests done very quickly. what we know is he's been ruled out of any connection to any links to ohio cases of a similar nature. they know that. he's now maybe moving to a more federal database check, is that right?
it's like a mask was suddenly ripped off, and the man that you knew, the father you knew, the brother you knew is exposed as -- well, as the young -- uncle referred to him, as the devil. it's a horrific shock if what they say is true. it's astounding to everyone in the family that they realize life had been a lie, which is why it's very easy for many of them to say we cut him off. he's not the brother we knew. he's not the person we knew. it's almost as though they can accept a death even though he's very much alive. >> absolutely extraordinary. martin, thank you very much indeed for that excellent report. dejesus has known ariel castro for 20 years. they played music together, and he's been at the castro house many times. tito dejesus joins me now. tito, i spoke to you earlier in the week. you give a fascinating insight into ariel castro, also saying, as everyone else has done, you never had a clue really about the kind of man he was.