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biden's. >> the white house said they wanted to see this happen months ago. they were hoping that this specific authority to shut down the border temporarily would have been enshrined in the legislation that perp pursuing. instead, once that was torpedos by senate republicans who are part of the negotiations at the urging of former president trump, the white house had to go this unilateral route. it took them months to try to actually craft and come up with what the president is going to be detailing later this afternoon when he speaks about this sweeping executive action. instead of some of the crossing numbers that you referenced there that had been a part of the proposals on capitol hill, now we are seeing a slightly lower number, 2,500, that if that were to be exceeded, that average, that is what would trigger the shutdown of the border, again, to people who are trying to seek asylum illegally. people who are still trying to get to ports of entry to seek
should be granted asylum. i think the american people want a balanced approach. they don't want to shut off asylum to people who are being persecuted because of their religion or political opinion and setting families and young people into persecution. we are in favor of trying to fix the process to make it more streamlined. a total ban where people enter between ports can't apply for asylum is not lawful in our view. we will look this, and if it's at extreme as we are hearing, we are likely to bring suit. >> thank you very much, all of you. the pressure campaign. white house intensifying its push for a cease-fire in gaza in order to get more aid in and also bring the hostages home importantly. later this hour, i will be joined by family members of
than 4,000 border encounters every day. joining us now from the border town of mission, texas, nbc news homeland security correspondent julia ainsley. good morning. tell us a little bit more about this order and what the impact may be. >> reporter: well, as far as impacts goes, one of the quickest things we can expect to see is groups who were advocating for migrants suing the federal government and getting this entire thing enjoined in court. that is because what we expect the president to unveil today is actually very similar to something president trump tried to do under his presidency, to try to make it illegal for any immigrant crossing the border between ports of entry -- that'd be in a place like this where he built the wall -- between legal ports of entry, to make it illegal so they couldn't claim asylum. that was stopped in courts. that was something stephen miller actually came up with. this is pretty close to that action. now, what i'm told is this is really the way the biden
are having an asylum ban on the overwhelming majority of people, then i think we would be prepared to sue just like we did under the trump administration. we think it was illegal under the trump administration. it would be likewise illegal here. we will make a final decision after we see the executive order. there's no question the law does not allow you to shut down the border to asylum seekers, even if you make some minor exceptions or leave some avenues open at the ports, congress was very clear and the statute says explicitly, whether or not you apply at a port or between ports, you must be allowed to apply for asylum. that's because many people just can't get to a port. either cartels are pushing them to cross between ports, they are with a young child that can't walk hundreds of miles to a port, don't know where the port is. we need to provide a safe haven for people who get on u.s. soil. that doesn't mean everyone
the millions more of americans who died at the hands of those immigrants who have been deported multiple times who had multiple 13 requests submitted by ice who fled or dissolved into the system here into the country those labs cannot be brought back not to mention the millions of the hands of fentanyl who is seemingly an hour of interest to a legislative body, so that if the collateral damage that is permanent that has generational consequences so this political decision on his part to me does not stick. >> kayleigh: part of it carly, is the reason he took so long is that he did not want to anger at the far left, their anger and for a number of reasons and it's interesting that we are able to report on this, this only applies during times of high encounters only between ports of entry. this does not apply to children or ban people based on religion with by the way they never banned people based on religion,
more people can be held awaiting the decision. but in lieu of the money, this is to push more people back into mexico. in fact, it's a reason why we're hearing about this this week and not earlier. they wanted to wait for mexico to get through the elections over the weekend before they announced this. they really can't do a deal like this where they don't allow migrants to come in, claim asylum, and get onto that process that can take years unless they get mexico to agree to take back the migrants that won't be allowed in. they plan to do that at just 2,500 a day, willie. we're already seeing over 4,000 a day. it's hard to imagine a scenario where they would get down to that 1,500 people a day trigger to then reopen it. this would effectively shut down the border immediately and keep it closed for the remaining future. of course, as you pointed out, that does not mean legitimate trade and travel. it means migrants passing between legal ports of entry. >> homeland security correspondent julia ainsley down along the border in mission, texas. thanks so much, as always.
tens and hundreds of thousands. >> the only question anyone should ask is why didn't you do this in 2021? why didn't you do this in 2022? why didn't you do this in 2023? this is one of the most cynical things that i've ever seen a politician attempt to do five months before an election. >> john: while we wait for the president to come out senator republicans were being president biden who in less than an hour will announce his executive action on the border. it would suspend a solemn request ports of entry once daily migrant counters were reached 2500 but will this just push the issue aside? let's bring in former border patrol chief or saudi biden administration for not following with the ms ration agenda. rodney, i've been looking at this trying to figure out while we are already more than twice above the threshold that the
to president biden making an announcement of executive action on immigration. we will just say he was asked as he was leaving there, if benjamin netanyahu was playing politics with the war and he said he doesn't think so. he's trying to work out a serious problem that he has, which obviously would be an internal political problem. but on this executive action, this is very big. what he is announcing that this would be basically a daily average cap of 2,500 people. that's the average trying to get in to the border illegal. these would be illegal encounters in-between ports of entry. and that if the average goes above that between ports of entry, essentially shut down. and this is something that you see progressives are not there in the audience with him and obviously they have some opposition to this. >> yeah, they're they're very concerned about this. what i thought was interesting to note there you heard him trying to
can apply for asylum, wedding there are not. he went through at a port and what commerce has said is if you're in danger get to us land and be screened for asylum. and the reason is very straightforward and consistent with international law many times a cartel will push people across the border between ports sometimes people will not know where the porters sometimes there may be hundreds of miles from report traveling with a little chadha can't walk there. so once they get over the border, that can be screened and i want to be very clear about two things. we're not saying that everyone is entitled to a silent, but we made a solemn promise after world war ii, we would never send people back without at least screening them. this policy will mean not even a screen to see if people are in grave danger because of their religious views, because of their political views, the second thing i want to make clear as we are not against an are in favor of streamlining the asylum process. i think everyone agrees that as long as we retain some measure of due
is something i can do executive lee. he has decided to take this action. it makes you wonder why didn't happen last year? 2023 december was my highest number ever in history over 300,000 people in a single month more than 670,000 known got aways were reported by cvp last year. literally the worst number of all time in history and he did not feel that action was needed last year, but randomly this summer after saying he couldn't do it he now feels he has to take some sort of action? you have to focus on the true details here. yes he will limit and restrict us i some people who cross the board illegally in between ports of entry, but he is going to continue bringing in tens of thousands of migrants per month using the cbp one app and flying them into the country via these parole flights. so the illegal crossing numbers may go down a little bit, but he