going to the bathroom, there s no one in the line. hannity, fantastic. glad you showed that. sean: have a great show. it s the one i ll see you tomorrow. i m laura ingraham, this is the ingraham angle from washington. an alarming story for each night, won the new york city police union s warning mayor de blasio that the city could collapse. it s social distancing enforcement continues. former nypd commissioner is here on that. also a dallas woman is sitting in jail tonight after she defied the stay-at-home orders to open her salon. the attorney general of texas wants her released, he s going to tell us how he intends to do that. and raymond arroyo on the latest drama, let s call it broke well. along with a troubling story about asking churches to track there. seen and unseen as i had. but first, my thoughts on america and shut down. day 51. now, it s hard to imagine that they are actually people out there who seem happier when most of america is invincible. and conversely, their miserable when most of you happy. but that sums up things on the left in the age of trauma, and especially during this unprecedented covert crisis. now, with the pandemic, as a kind of cover, they are kind of excited about ramming through this new vision for a new america. i m not just talking about one where we wash her hands as often as we should, or cough into her elbows. the goal here is to remake america into a progressive society, supposedly, a more equitable society. were not going back to normal. it s back to a new normal. we may never have the normal that we had prior to covid-19. let s take this experience, and really learn how we could do differently, and better with our education system because of technology and virtual educati education. laura: now, let s face it. at these people, a lot of them, didn t like the old to normal. why? because in the old normal the people elected donald trump. today, the new york times published a shockingly honest about what really irks the left about traditional america. one word, freedom. open states, lots of guns, america is paying a heavy price for freedom. at the title read. and in predictable fashion, columnist praises europe s more enlightened approach to lockdown, then complains that we re just too free for our own darn good. americans who question mandates on mask wearing are stupid, selfish, and dangerous. just like those gun rights advocates. this is what he says in this narrow world view, freedom has a price. it s a price that will be calculated, and then set by a select few. the rest of us, nearly pay it. wait, they are actually complaining about a select few setting the rules? but isn t this how the left prefers that? they certainly don t prefer ruled by the people. people who still believe in quaint things like the first and second amendment. the left prefer rule by a few. maybe if you billionaire technocrats, or by an elected bureaucrat. and by liberal governors who prolong these shutdowns without legislative oversight at all. the entire of the people by the people for the people thing hasn t really delivered that progressive utopia that the left so desperately desires. but may be, just maybe, the pandemic will. there is a primordial american tradition going back to the founders of being freedom of death, even though where a country founded on slavery and, we are blind to other states of stress. what have you. laura: let that sink in. we are freedom obsessed. yes, i am. guilty as charged. freedom obsessed. most people want to go on with their lives. you get the sense, you can see it around you. they understand that walking out the door every day entails risk. sometimes serious ones. the old normal, so then, means little league, high school proms, graduations, it means to church on sunday or other types of worship. work on monday. it means dinner with friends and family vacations every now and then. of course, it is a horrible tragedy that so many americans had to die because of this virus that started in china, it s awful. but it would be an even worse tragedy if we lost our country because of it. we can never bring back those we ve lost, but we can try to repair the cultural and economic damage before it s too late. this is how parents describes the old normal. you know, that normal at the end of 2019 before the coronavirus? households are in good shape. unemployment is at half-century low. wages have been increasing faster than inflation, and consumer confidence remains nearest high of the cycle. that likely helps them feel particularly jolly this holiday season, it may open the walls to celebrate. it seems like a long time ago now, doesn t? rather than being happy that they were doing so well just a few months back, the airheads in the liberal media just became more bitter, it seems. as democrats became more committed to impeaching trump at the time and the american left became, frankly, just more unhinged. as most in the country were enjoying life pr precovid-19. they were engulfed in anger and resentment. at their faces told the story. pelosi, schumer, schiff, waters, and done there were the trumpeting anchors and pundits pretending to be journalist. they all felt dejected and demoralized. nicole wallace, don lemon, chuck todd, jake tapper. but now they kind of see their opening. reenergized, reorganized, may be reinventing. so what do we need to do to make sure that we actually help real people, and that goes for renters, but it also goes for mom-and-pop landlords, you know, one of the first things that we talk about which is our first demand, is rent cancellation. laura: i mean, i ve never seen her happier. she looks like, glowing. before they argued that trump was put in s puppet, now they say that he s a murderer for not being more like pollutant, and ordering the nation to close. remember, in their utopia, you may get free bread and milk, but you won t have your freedom, my friends. they will call the shots. you will be traced and tracks, not just for viruses, but in every aspect of your life. if you don t believe me? let s take a look at the place they re placing for its responsible response to the virus, china. it has begun a bold mass experiment in using data to regulate citizen s lives by them to use software on their smartphones that dictates whether they should be quarantined or allowed into subways, malls, or other public spaces. this is all being done for your own good, of course. that s what the left wants you to think. but is that what really, americans want? those are my thoughts at the end of day 51, america and shut down. joining me now is dan bongino, fox news contributor and host of the dan bongino show. former aide to chuck schumer, host of the aggressive progressive podcast. chris, democrats to me, at the end of last year, what america was doing really well, based seem to really angry, upset, frustrated, and resentful. and now, we will never go back to that old normal. do democrats really want us to change the basic way of living because of a virus that was released in china? chris: absolutely not. i think everybody was very happy with the economy before this crisis broke out. they might ve been unhappy with the chances of being stomach beating donald trump, but now it there feeling good about that. look, things are going to change after this virus, it s going to be an opportunity for us to re-examine how we deal with health care, how we monitor outbreaks like this, how we behave in public to prevent future outbreaks, but suggesting that progressives and liberals and democrats want to completely reshape society is not accurate. it s not what s going on. look, after world war ii, japan and europe, they built new trains that are faster and got people around. hearing the united states, were still using 19th century technology because we never had the opportunity to rebuild after the war like they did in europe and asia. we are going to have an opportunity after this to re-think about how we communicate with each other. laura: what are you talking about? chris: no one wants to change society. laura: if you want to go post world war ii, i m all for that. because we had a booming economy, we had manufacturing, we had american jobs, we didn t ship them oversee stomach overseas, and we weren t interesting in remaking america. we talked patriotism in school, we still had prayer in school, all that was wiped out. they found a depressive, and they were resentful by the time the 60s rolled around. i want to play something that new york governor cuomo said about not letting the crisis go to waste. watch. i want to make sure we don t miss the opportunity in the moment, let s take this moment in history to actually improve from where we are, and to build it better. how do we have more social equity in society? a betty to better education, but her health care system. dan, what does that have to do with covid-19, how is that responding to a virus that came out of china? dan: it has nothing to do with that, laura. and the constitution which limits government, doesn t limit you, it limits government. it only matters, it only matters if it matters in a time of crisis. the constitution was precisely designed for moments like this. and if i may quote all their fobs are eco, a noted supporter of economic libertarianism he said once, is not the government s too big, the government s too stupid. government has the knowledge problem. at the smartest people wearing government, they wouldn t be politicians and bureaucrats, they be in the private sector making money. having worked in government as a secret service agent and left, i unfortunately came across this first hand. i m sorry to say, not all, i don t want to stereotype like liberals do but most of the dumbest people i ve ever met were in the media and the press pool, and happen to be members of government now dictating to you how you can run your life. chris somehow denying this chris doesn t really breed the newspaper often forgive him. he hasn t read it all on education liberty. he hasn t seen many of those. did you notice there s uptake on a check on homeschoolers? did you see the push in the media, attacks against health care liberty? have you seen the push for massive government spending and new taxation structures? basically the three things that mattered the democrats want more of. more government and your health care, more in your wall wallet. chris: i find it really i find it hilarious that you re so offended by the governor of the state of new york, who is doing an excellent job, sing after this crisis he wants to build back our economy. okay, dan. pipe down dan. chris: he wants to build our economy back better. it s in shambles because the president of the united states while he was doing rallies and playing golf. yc asking donald trump for a bailout? when i think chris: back from the federal government. dan: that s funny. and i think it might be a good idea for andrew cuomo to focus on what he didn t do, perhaps, if he s already said there s mistake made in nursing homes, if we can t keep our subway cars decently clean as a matter of course, if that s true, located for him, sorry, but i don t want him touching my kids education if i happen to live in new york. they ve gotten quite enough on the educational front. i don t see how that has anything to do with the chinese virus. gentlemen, great to see both of you. great to see you looking so well. all right, it isn t just ordinary citizens, though, who are suffering over what the left is calling the new normal. some of the most essential employees are also feeling the pain. the nypd s union is warning mayor bill de blasio that if he continues using officers to enforce social distancing roles, the city will fall apart before our eyes. here to respond, former nypd commissioner, bernie what the heck is going on in new york city? bernard: , well i think it s atrocious. i think it s outrageous that the mayor would put the cops, the men and women in law enforcement in a position to do this, because it contradicts everything you want to think about with regard to community relations, it puts the cops in a position where they have to confront people for things that aren t really the laws. if so you them out there doing things that the attorney gener attorney general, and several federal judges so far had said, may be unconstitutional. they put their hands on someone, they get in a physical altercation, they have to defend themselves, they are going to get sued. they are going to be in violation of the constitution or some civil liberty. there s going to be civil right suits. somebody s going to be living in their house because they went out and followed in order by the mayor that should ve never happened in the first place. i think it s atrocious, i think it s i think it s horrible. laura: a bernie, is an ongoing conversation about how much benefit will glean from social distancing. obviously they had a lot of social distancing. and new york still has an enormous number of cases, how much we don t really know, we don t have a scientific study on how much it helped. but we do know that if new york doesn t get back to business, there are over. they will have two declare bankruptcy at that point. that means everyone is playing. bernard: it s just not new york city, it s new york state. it s new jersey. these leaders, these mayors and governors, are breaking people. they are breaking people mentally, financially, professionally. it they are destroying their lives, and they sit back and say, just do this. the governor s worth $50 million, he doesn t give a damn about the people in new jersey that have to live from paycheck to paycheck. laura: it mayor de blasio opposes, by the way, bernie extending line of duty benefits to family members of city workers killed by cocovid-19. bernard: he actually opposed that legislation. that takes me back to the aftermath of 9/11 where we hadn t members of congress who would not support and financially support the men and women who were dying of cancer. it there doing it all over again. who s leading the charge? the mayor of the city. they shouldn t be doing it in the first place. laura: councilman borelli, joe borelli, fired back. he told us he is not honoring line of duty death. the trump administration pays for pension, he s using dead corrections officers and sanitation s workers to leverage a bailout. leverage a bailout. those are tough words, but are they accurate? bernard: i think the mayor forgets the mayor is responsible for new york city. not the president, the mayor. giuliani used to have a plaque on his desk, when you walk into city hall, i m responsible. in the aftermath of 9/11, it was the mayor that was responsible for new york city, now the governor, not the president, the mayor. he had to be with the crisis. he had to prepare for the crisis. he had to work on the response, the rescue, the recovery, the investigation, with the help of not just calling out the president and saying you will give me this. at this guy is just trying to take all the money he can get to bail himself out from his prior lunacy. laura: well, they certainly always find benefits for illegal immigrants, but they didn t want the federal government telling them what to do then, but now they want bailout. they go, your voice is really important on this. we stand with the nypd. thank you so much. bernard: thinks laura thinks laura. laura: coming up, how the stay-at-home orders may be slowly killing our cancer patients. we re going to talk to a top oncologist sounding the alarm. it raymond arroyo is here tonight with the latest drama from the coil was so what s going on? 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we have depression, we have opioid addiction, other addictions, spousal abuse, et cetera. they shutdowns have already have a devastating impact on cancer treatment. data from community oncology practice shows a huge drop in patient visits, including a 17% decline for chemotherapy appointments in the northeastern united states. cancellations and no-shows are up 80% through april. her joining me now is dr. dr. william, oncologist and hematologist. it doctor, good to see you again. not only is this terrible for patients, but doesn t it threaten to unravel an entire medical profession if this goes on much longer. yes, laura, they re basically three venues where we give oncology treatments. those doctors that are associated with hospitals and paid by hospitals, largely in the northeast, those doctors have been drafted to take care of the covid-19 patients. as so many of their patients have their treatments either attenuated or the reduction and intensity, we don t have a safety net there to protect them when they get very aggressive therapies, which is what they need, often. so that s one group of patients who are not getting therapist. at the second group is the number of doctors who are independent lactation errors, small practices. that they have very, very thin margins, and with those thin margins, if they re only able to practice two days of the week out of five because of social distancing, or they have to not see as many patients coming down 80%. a year beneath the margin of profit. many of those practices are going to go away. doctors are going to retire, and you re not going to see those oncologist. and then, finally, the third venue, and the one which is doing the best, and probably the most notable of those practices is new york. i spoke to many of my colleagues who work for them, they re getting all the pp s that they need, all the products they need to care for their patients, and they noticed that they ve been able to continue on treating those patients without any encumbered men. so that s pretty much where we are. laura: just to make sure they understand this, the human cost of these stay-at-home orders becoming is excruciating for families and business, but it s having its own health toll. a watch. right now, in washington, d.c., we ve had a 20% excess mortality from noncovid-19 related deaths. i just diagnosed a patient this week of breast cancer, and will likely diagnose another person. i think, while focusing on b is exceedingly important, let s not forget the continuing diseases are present. laura: dr. grace, i feel like this is really been missing from the national discussion. it certainly missing from the covid-19 task force, which is only focused on the soul focuses on the virus on itself, not on all these other effects. you re right laura, in fact, if you talk to surgeons, if you talk to radiologists, a lot of women are not getting their mammograms. there is no screening for cancer care now in the northeast, there is no surgery done on breast cancer. most people are being put on hold. there will likely be a survival impact from this covid-19. laura: dr. grace, as always, thank you so much for enlightening us all. after thousands of thus, they finally saw fit to have new york cities transportation cleaned. despite that, what they re doing is interesting. at the transit authority will be using powerful ultraviolet lights on trains and buses to kill the coronavirus. dr. david brenner is spearheading the effort, he says that while it s not 100% clear that uv lights will work, it s inconceivable that it wouldn t kill this particular virus. he came on. it dr. brenner, great to see you. with your level of confidence in this, why would city officials have waited so long? well, i think the main reason is, in order to disinfect the trains with conventional ultraviolet light, you have to empty trains. you can t have people inside the trains. so it s only since they decided to stop the service in the middle of the night. laura: dr. brenner, i remember when this was first raised a few weeks back, a colleague of mine brought it up to me. were looking at it in texas as well. people were kind of laughing at it. saying, oh, this is ridiculous. if this is another fantasy, there s no way this could have any effect on covid-19. it s too simple. you can t do it in restaurants, but they were kind of dismissing it, why do you think that is? well, it s ultraviolet light to kill bacteria and viruses has been around for more than a hundred years now. it works really well. for example in a lot of surgical operating theaters overnight to decontaminate. so come the morning you have a nice clean environment with no bacteria, no viruses. it really works. it s very efficient at killing microbes. spoon and dr. brenner, what about the potential harm to individuals exposed to ultraviolet light? is there any danger their questio?because you also hear ta lot. well, yes, it s actually true. the conventional germicidal and uv light, which is being initially used in these studies is not safe for human exposure. so that s why they re doing it overnight, bringing the lamps into the cars, closing the doors, shutting the windows, and then turning the lamps on. there would be no nobody would. laura: that explains it. so it won t be on continuously throughout the day, which could pose a problem. that s correct. i should say that this standard conventional ultraviolet light will be used in that way. we are working on a new type of ultraviolet light which actually still kills viruses, but is safe for human exposure. and that s really laura: get that out! we want that out as soon as possible. in our restaurants, we wanted everywhere. all you brainiacs have to do that for us, okay? okay. think you so much. this is incredible stuff. incredible technology that s been around for a while, but it s going to make it better. coming up, big city mayors using coded to restrict freedom. plus, what are they up to? raymond arroyo is here. every financial plan needs a cfp® professional confident financial plans, calming financial plans, complete financial plans. they re all possible with a cfp® professional. find yours at letsmakeaplan.org. laura: low-key people, time for seen and unseen, where we expose cultural stories of the week. while some mayors use covid-19 to crack down on their citizens, it cnn, joining us with all the details, fox news contributor, now in paperback raiment, the mayor of your own city of new orleans has unveiled a new plan to reopen businesses with strings attached. raymond: she s going out of her way, refusing to relax restrictions on businesses, even as the rest of louisiana begins to open up. we may not be in community spread much longer. but we have to continue the rate of testing, and even do more when we reopen. raymond: here s what the mayor s purposing. each distance in new orleans will have to keep a record of who comes into their establishment. customers will have to submit their addresses, phone numbers, and their comings and goings will be recorded, essentially everybody has to be tracked. that s what she s proposing. laura: no way. it that sounds a lot like what the mayor of kansas city and missouri was proposing. right? raymond: that mayor quinton lucas, he was asking businesses to keep customer logs as well as houses of worship, which he couldn t sit or say nonessential business. only 10% of their capacity in a building, or ten people. they never did that at walmart, they didn t do that at costco, they didn t do it for groceries. and to those churches are asked to keep records of their parishioners in case of an outbreak. basically, what were talking about here is, if you go to a 7-eleven in new orleans, if you go to a restaurant, you have to fill out your information, or they re going to have to somehow suck it out of your phone, or maybe we should be like disney, have one of those bands, those magic bands where you check in everywhere you go, and they could just track you even when you go to the toilet. laura: this is like china. china in new orleans. this is crazy. i m going to have to get my louisiana bar license, i d take the bar down there, start representing people. there s going to be lawsuits filed. all these businesses. get together, you restaurants, you small business owners, and sue this mayor for this outrage. that is absolutely draconian. we never had tracking like this during influenza. this was the worst pneumonia and influenza years we had since 1968, one of the worst season, no one talks about that anymore, i wonder why. meanwhile, looks like the reality show continued at cnn, what s happening there? c c4 new york government down like a governor. always good to see you big brother. good to see you in the basement. a nice haircut. go do you like it? she harbors a deep resentment. it good to see you in the basement anyway. lilo called me before the show, said go easy on you. my wife, who? i m going to go easy on you. delilah. raymond: laura, he is pounding and driving home this narrative that quits cuomo was in his basement, i know it s jokey and fun, but that proved to be a lie. the band was covid-19 positive out with no mask while hectoring everyone else to stay indoors. it s absurd. laura: it s great television when you re comparing haircuts. i love how chris was a little slow on the uptake with the delilah reference. he s like, what? delilah? how do you not know that? delilah and samson. raymond: is a cuomo brochu continued, they asked dominic touch the lives of all of us you harass me and croak me. do you want a pat on the ba back? ad hominem ad hominem. don t speak spanish on my show. raymond: they should do is succumb meanwhile there s that nursing home policy that they implemented. 25% of the victims of vr and nursing, because he passed it executive order because they cannot refuse covert patients. why are they asking about that question might drop the jokes, this is journalistic malfeasance. laura: it s a little tedious at this point, don t you think? the supreme court is holding oral arguments, someone on the call today was otherwise occupied. what the fcc had said is when the subject matter ranges the topic, then the call is transformed. raymond: you were the clerk. was that an absolute, or constructive discharge? i need to know. laura: that argument was flushed right down the toilet by one justice, no, it has to be a justice, not a clerk. clearly the clerks making the oral argument. raymond: one of the people arguing the case, whoever it was laura: no it wasn t. it raymond: when you re arguing a case, get out of the bathroom. i think god were not in zoom otherwise we would get the visual picture. laura: justice thomas is asking questions. i like that. people haven t heard his voice, i love that. he was in his element. it was cool. raymond: ruth bader ginsburg got to hear the from the hospital. she s out of the hospital tonight, we wish her well. laura: give my best year mayor. as dallas judge locked up a hair salon owner for trying to feed her kids. texas attorney general wants her release. he s going to tell us how might do that, next my age-related macular degeneration could lead to vision loss. so today i made a plan with my doctor, which includes preservision. because he said a multi- vitamin alone may not be enough. and it s my vision, my morning walk, my sunday drive, my grandson s beautiful face. only preservision areds2 contains the exact nutrient formula recommended by the national eye institute to help reduce the risk of moderate to advanced amd progression. it s how i see my life. because it s my vision. preservision. the biggest week in television is almost here. starting may 11, enjoy free access to the best shows and movies from favorites like hbo, showtime, starz and, for the first time ever, hulu and peacock! catch the show someone on twitter says is omg cray, exclamation mark. don t look at me. or the one with the character with the eccentric name. 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sweetie was a complicated question. were operating under a different regime that we ve operated before. that judge, she was held in contempt. the governor can actually pardon that. though it s really public pressure. we can t get an appeal in time, she s only going to be there seven days. public pressure, and shows like this can highlight the injustice. laura: other individuals who are trying to save their lives. when you talk about something you ve devoted years to buildi building, that is their lives. it s everything that they dreamed of, everything that they worked for. at their blood, sweat, and tears. in a way, i saw someone say online, she s fighting for her life. but for that, they re putting her in jail. you couldn t of said it any better. i have my own business, you have rent paste to payments. this is a woman that has expenses, she has children, and here she is, she can operate. all she s done he hasn t sold drugs, she hasn t hurt anybody, she hasn t killed anybody, and yet, they re relisting prisoners and dallas and they re putting her in jail. laura: they ve released about 1,000 inmates, they flat over 370 walk free. some of them for i.d. fraud, breaking into a car, another prisoner set free is now charged of beating his ex-girlfriend, throwing her grandmother to the ground. how is this that these people are being set free while people just want to put food on the table are being locked up? it s crazy. i can t believe this is america sometimes. i can t believe this is texas. ken: no. it feels more like china than america, and let it alone happening in texas. if this what you said. we ve got the statement from the clinton administration, don t let a good crisis get away. this is certainly happening here, they re releasing potentially thousands of convicted felons because they re worried about them getting this virus. for some reason they re not worried about her, a woman that s just trying to do her j job. if you want to have to say that i ve been listening to a lot of the elites criticism of both texas and florida. it s the red state that they re hitting hardest year. despite the fact that texas has a relatively few covid-19 does. we don t want anyone to die to from it, but comparison to new york or new jersey, per hundred thousand, per million is one fraction florida has also had an exemplary record, but they are just splashing at texas. you guys are out there just killing people. ken: it makes no sense at all. we ve done our best to develop a public health and save lives. by allowing people some semblance of their lives, allowing them to make a living, how is that wrong? i literally don t get it. laura: attorney general paxton, we re going to be following this closely. thank you for what you re trying to do. up next, it might look post covid-19, scary look into the future, next i recommend nature made vitamins. because i trust their quality they were the first to have a vitamin verified by usp. .an independent organization that sets strict quality and purity standards nature made, the #1 pharmacist recommended vitamin and supplement brand the #1 pharmacist recommended when bugs move in we stress out and spray. well, we used to. new ortho home defense max indoor insect barrier kills and prevents bugs for up to a year without odors, stains or fuss. new ortho home defense max. bugs gone. stress gone. laura: baseball is back in south korea, but taking social distancing to an extreme. the first pitch was thrown by a boy literally in a bubble. he rolls his way to home plate where he gives a high five through plastic to a couple of players. is that our future? he is adorable, but the ball, no. all the time we have tonight. shannon bream and the fox news @ night team take it from here. shannon: how do you get your french fries and hot dog and everything when you are in the bubble? i have hope that we will get back. laura: have a great show. shannon: thanks so much. we begin tonight with a fox news alert. it is a showdown in texas over a beauty salon owner now sitting behind bars right now because she kept the salon open saying she cannot let her children or her employees starve. tonight lieutenant governor paying the $7,000 fine and offering to go on house arrest so shelly luther can get out of jail, go to work and feed her kids. dan patric
hello to you. brazil has for the first time registered a daily death toll of over 1,000 in one day. the overall death toll is now 17,971, and the total number of infections is just over 271,000. it s notjust by far the worst hit country in south america, its also the third highest in the world. this shows the trajectory of the daily total of recorded deaths going up and up. katy watson in sao paulo has more. well, brazil passed two grim milestones, actually, not only was it the highest number of deaths in the past 2a hours but it also posted the highest number of confirmed infections, more than 17,000 confirmed cases in the last 2a hours. now, tuesdays often peak because of the last few days over the weekend in terms of collecting data, but nevertheless this just shows what a lot of people have been fearing here in brazil that the numbers of deaths and the virus is certainly not under control here in brazil. and the whole picture complicated by the attitude of the president. absolutely. he continues to downplay the severity of the virus. in fact, this evening he has, in facebook live, said that on wednesday he s going to bring in new rules over the use of chloroquine for early stages of covid 19. so that s been a very contentious issue and that is what is believed to have pushed the former health minister out. he didn t agree with the view that bolsonaro had on the use of the anti malaria drug. so jair bolsonaro s continuing with his way of doing things, but the concern is that this has been a chaotic approach to dealing with the virus, with the state governors being much stricter on regulations at the same time that the president clearly taking a very different approach to trying to tackle or, as many people would say, failing to tackle the virus here in brazil. it does seem clear, katy, that what president trump has been saying and doing has fed into this. absolutely. trump is seen as. ..is certainly an inspiration forjair bolsonaro. they are often on the same page with the use of chloroquine, talking about the severity of the virus. that said, we ve heard trump concerned about the numbers in brazil and concerned about the entry of brazilians. so i think it s even hitting the us in terms of the concern and what we re seeing here in brazil impacting rest of the world. katy watson for us there. the global pharmaceutical giant johnson &johnson is to stop selling talcum based baby powder in the united states and canada. the company has denied allegations that the powder it uses contains cancer causing asbestos, but has been taken to court thousands of times over the allegations. 0ur north america business correspondent, michelle fleury, has more. johnson &johnson says it. selling its talc based baby powder in north america, along with a range of other items as it focuses on other items it considers a higher priority during the coronavirus pandemic. the pharmaceutical giant also continued to defend the safety of its talc baby powder. 0nce the safety of its talc baby powder. once a household stable, sales have really fallen over the last few years as users alleged it caused cancer. and last october the company voluntarily recalled a batch of its baby powder after the us food and drug regulator found that it contained asbestos. now, the recall came amid thousands of lawsuits saying thatjohnson amid thousands of lawsuits saying that johnson & amid thousands of lawsuits saying thatjohnson & johnson knew that its baby powder contained asbestos, a carcinogen, the company has strenuously denied all of these claims. it is worth pointing out that tell based baby powder from johnson & johnson will still be sold in the rest of the world and here in north america you can buy the cornstarch based version. michelle fleury for us there. 0ne rare positive effect of the past few months has been on the environment. the biggest ever reduction in the volume of carbon dioxide released into the world s atmosphere has been recorded since march. at the height of the lockdown scientists discovered that daily emissions around the world dropped by more than 17%. but scientists are warning that this extreme reduction in greenhouse gas emissions is likely to be temporary, as our science editor david shukman explains. all over the world, some stunning transformations from choked streets in india becoming calmer and easier to breathe in, to the most famous landmark in china suddenly looking clearer. to the centre of paris, often polluted, now quieter and cleaner. the fight against the virus has slowed down many economies, at huge cost. but it s also done wonders for the air and for the carbon emissions that are heating up the planet. the drop in traffic is a major part of that, here in the uk and globally. lower demand for electricity has also made a difference. along with the grounding of planes. fewer flights means less carbon released into the air. it s a pattern seen around the world. the lighter the shade here, the bigger the decline in emissions in some countries, up again, but still a huge change. the fall in emissions we re seeing, 17% per day, is enormous. we haven t experienced something like this before, as far as we can tell. it s driven by changes in road transport. now that china s out of lockdown, traffic there is building up, so emissions are rising once again. the carbon cut is not permanent. on some key roads, the traffic is starting to come back a bit as the lockdown is eased, but the impact of the different restrictions on the environment has been really striking. not only are those carbon emissions down, the quality of the air has got a lot better. different types of pollution have fallen dramatically. so, as the economy recovers, will we see a return to the toxic haze hanging over our cities? experts in air pollution hope the crisis has shown what s possible. a very unfortunate natural experiment, but it does really show us that by changing the vehicles on our road, or reducing the vehicles on our road, and changing over to electric vehicles, we can immediately reduce air pollution which is a very, very important message. many cities are now trying to encourage more cycling and walking, to help keep people safe from the disease and also to reduce pollution. their hope is that amid the nightmare of the virus, a greener future can be created. david shukman, bbc news. to talk more about what can be done in cities to learn sustainable lessons from the coronavirus pandemic is brent toderian, city planning consultant and former vancouver chief planner. what s your top line on this? well, i ve think it s going to bea well, i ve think it s going to be a huge challenge for cities to make sure that the drop in emissions we ve seen during the pandemic, at least a big chunk of that drop stays with us. and that s why 70 cities are already thinking about how to make the changes, many of the changes they ve made reaction to the pandemic permanent. to not only address the climate crisis, but to make our cities more liveable and address air pollution and make them more healthy and resilient just ongoing. there is a many reason to wa nt ongoing. there is a many reason to want make these improvements to want make these improvements to our cities, but we have to keep those emissions that we ve dropped, with have to make them, to a certain extent, permanent. you say we have to, but was the dynamic here, this tension, of course, governments, cities want to do that, but they also want to get their economies moving and there s a whole bunch of people where there is a pent up demand, people wanting to get back to work, back in their cars, get back to flying. well, i think the way we get back to work and back to our cities is being rethought as we speak. and certainly there is going to bea and certainly there is going to be a big interest in spending money on reactivating the economy and if we spend that money stupidly, frankly, in doubling down on putting a foot on the gas, if you will, towards more driving by building more roads and wider roads, we re going to end up getting more emissions, even more than we had during this pandemic, which is a recipe for com plete pandemic, which is a recipe for complete disaster. 0n the other hand, if we invest that stimulus money, that economic recovery money, in walking and biking infrastructure and public transport, in retrofitting existing buildings and making new buildings greener and better, we can get better outcomes for our cities and for all of us while also activating the economy. it is not an either/or. if we spend our money is dumbly we will have bad outcomes and put our foot on the gas towards an even was future. do you think the little bit of cleanliness we have seen, the bit of green as we have seen is persuasive enoughin we have seen is persuasive enough in itself or individuals was made because at the moment there is a fair element, what happens when that goes? i m sorry. i could not he your question. at the moment there isa question. at the moment there is a kind of fair element to persuade people, do you think what we have seen of life being greener, life being clean is persuasive enough in itself, how do we keep people on board with this? well, fear and opportunity i think can be both great motivators for education, for learning. but we badly need an honest conversation about the consequences of getting this recovery wrong. not only returning to the old normal, which wasn t working for us, but even making things worse, because it s entirely possible that we could end up driving even more, emitting even more once we recover. so i even more, emitting even more once we recover. so i think there s an opportunity, a necessity, irresponsibility to make sure we re discussing, really bluntly, the consequences of getting this wrong. because if we double down on a cabos, fuel based infrastructure, the consequences of a change include even more and was pandemics. so there is a staggering consequence of getting this wrong if we are not smart about it. you so much for that. my pleasure. thank you. mass evacuations are under way in bangladesh and india, ahead of a major storm there. cyclone amphan is due to make landfall near the border of the two countries later on wednesday. forecasters are warning of winds above 115 miles per hour. the coronavirus outbreak is making it harder to protect those in the line of the storm, as our south asia correspondent rajini vaidya nathan reports. the bay of bengal, one of the most vulnerable coastlines in the world. now bracing itself for a powerful storm. 0fficials fear it could be the worst to hit the region since cyclone sidr in 2007, which claimed at least 3,000 lives. now, in the middle of a pandemic, they re moving thousands to safer ground. fears too for hundreds of rohingya refugees stranded at sea. they d escaped hardship from the camps in bangladesh for a new life in malaysia. beaten and starved by the smugglers they paid, they re now adrift after malaysian authorities turned them away for fears of covid 19. last month, hundreds of rohingyas were rescued and returned to bangladesh. but the country says it won t accept any more on the mainland. it sent more than 300 to a silt island in the bay of bengal. aid agencies fear it s flood prone and are calling for the refugees to be moved as the storm approaches. this 17 year old is one of those on the island. we talked to his mother, fatima, before the cyclone warning. i just want my son alive on any sure, in any country, she says. but for fatima and other rohingyas, living in the world s largest refugee camp the risks are many. if the cyclone hits these settlements don t stand a chance. and last week coronavirus finally reached the camps. one of the most densely populated places on the planet, were social distancing is tough, cases are already rising rapidly. healthcare facilities are basic. isolation wards have been set up for coronavirus patients, but in a camp of close to a million people there isn t a single ventilator. rohingya refugees fled genocide in the myanmar. they live in poverty in bangladesh. now with coronavirus and a cyclone to content with their resilience is once again being tested. rajini vaidyanathan, bbc news. stay with us on bbc news. still to come: the mystery surrounding a subterranean discovery at one of the world s holiest sites. this morning, an indian airforce plane carrying mr gandhi s body landed in delhi. the president of india walked to the plane to solemnly witness mr gandhi s final return from the political battlefield. ireland has voted overwhelmingly in favour of gay marriage. in doing so, it has become the first country in the world to approve the change in a national referendum. it was a remarkable climax to what was surely the most extraordinary funeral ever given to a pop singer. it has been a peaceful funeral demonstration so far, but suddenly the police are teargassing the crowd. we don t know why. the prelaunch ritual is well established here. helen was said to be in good spirits, butjust a little apprehensive. in the last hour, east timor has become the world s newest nation. it was a bloody start for a poor country, and the challenges ahead are daunting. but for now, at least, it is time to celebrate. this is bbc news, the latest headlines: brazil s daily death toll passes 1,000 it s now the third worst hit country in the world. the biggest ever drop in the volume of carbon dioxide released into the world s atmosphere is recorded. but scientists warn the reduction may be temporary. experts tracking disinformation during the coronavirus pandemic say they re seeing a rise in the conpsiracy theories and far right ideologies, particularly in protests against lockdown measures, on both sides of the atlantic. in germany at the weekend, many people protested measures taken to control the spread of covid 19. but police made arrests after some people used the demonstrations as a pretext for displays of anti semitism, or thinly veiled support for neo nazi ideology. in the us, some patriot groups or far right militia claim their civil liberties are infringed upon by the lockdown measures, and have taken part in anti lockdown protest in the past weeks. graham brookie is director of the digital forensic research lab of the atlantic council in washington it s tracking disinformation and fake news during the pandemic. i also know, reading your pulley your piece in politico, talking about conspiracy bingo. conspiracy bingo came out at the time when we we re bingo came out at the time when we were on the phone with the reporter but let me explain it, it s convergence of audiences we are seeing, including some extremist groups which engage with various conspiracy theories but don t typically engage with each other and you are engage with each other and you a re exactly engage with each other and you are exactly right, it is incurring in what the world health organization termed back in debris as a infodemic and they defined that, they described it as an overabundance of information, some viable and some absolutely not, but make it difficult for broader audiences like you and ito broader audiences like you and i to discern exactly what other reliable sources out there. that is happening in parallel toa that is happening in parallel to a pandemic in which accurate information is a, always coming down ina information is a, always coming down in a new cycle to rapidly evolving situations and accurate information can help save lives so it s a real challenge. in a pandemic, people are making common cause, even though they have a bunch of different grievances, real or imagined. that makes a movement which is very hard to fight, doesn t it? it does, you are seeing the limits of content moderation from some of the social media giants have stepped up efforts to not only promote accurate information but showing an increased willingness to remove content thatis willingness to remove content that is harmful or inaccurate. now what we know is that u nfortu nately, regardless now what we know is that unfortunately, regardless of those efforts, finding a place to live on line and they can build and spread from those dark corners of the internet so thatis dark corners of the internet so that is a real challenge and everybody that s going to be in that collective challenge has to include government, media as well as the tech companies. just to take a couple of examples, why particularly is far right extremism and anti semitism piggybacking on all this? one thing about conspiracy theories, it s not unusualfor conspiracy theories, it s not unusual for those inclined towards conspiracy around specific themes like anti semitism or various extremist narratives to apply those beliefs to the news of the day, apply those beliefs or in this case disbelief ‘s unused topics of the day. what we are seeing in the context of this infodemic is a sustained focus on one particular topic across the world and that s where you see this convergence of audiences, whether it is folks by vaccine sceptics or anti semitic or have a few of the other and that is a very interesting proposition to try to solve but it s also extremely dangerous. it has to be said that mr trump is really not helping. he is feeding this frenzy. it could be a great thing that we have a man of the most powerfuljob in the world who engages with social media but it picks up a lot of stuff and puts a lot of stuff out there which is really very questionable. it is no question the president of the united states freewheeling falsehoods have led to a less effective public global health response and we certainly feel that here in the united states as well as around the world. thank you so much, really interesting to talk to you. let s get some of the day s other news. the syrian government has stepped up its attack on a cousin and former key member of president assad s inner circle. billionaire businessman rami makhlouf has gone public about his rift with president assad. a document apparently signed by the syrian finance minister is circulating online, ordering the seizure of the assets of mr makhlouf, his wife and his children. hungary s parliament has voted to ban transsexual people from altering their gender on official documents in a move activists say pushes the country back towards the dark ages. individuals will now have to register sex at birth on marriage and death certificates, as well as identity cards. archaeologists in jerusalem have discovered a series of mysterious underground rooms near to where the second jewish temple is believed to have stood some two thousand years ago. 2,000 the purpose of these chambers remain unknown although oil lamps and pots suggest some kind of domestic use. the bbc‘s tim allman reports. near the western wall, secrets can be buried beneath secrets. this site dates backs exact dates back to the time abides in him, some 11100 years ago but injerusalemold city, in him, some 11100 years ago but in jerusalemold city, more in him, some 11100 years ago but injerusalemold city, more you dig, the more you discover. hidden away between beneath the mosaics, a series of rooms are even older. these chambers, dug from the bedrock itself, dating to before the time of christ. about the prime location in terms of ancient jerusalem real estate. we are about 30 metres from the temple mount and just below this street level in what is considered to be a public area of the early roman period. legend has it construction of the second temple began around 516 bc by exiled jews returning from babylon. the faith‘s most sacred site, it stood for nearly six centuries before being destroyed by the romans. instead of nearing the ruins, they built on top, covering the network of chambers up. their use can only be guessed it. we have all kind of evidence that this room was used for daily life use. we are finding cooking vessels that were used to cook daily meals, we found oil lamps and we are finding storagejars oil lamps and we are finding storage jars that people stored their wheat or bali or olive oil here. this whole site is to be excavated and then put on display for the public. different eras, different cultures. secrets buried no more. tim allman, bbc news. now, a remarkable story from china where a couple have been reunited with their son, 32 years after he was abducted as a toddler. the disappearance of 2 year old mao yin in 1988 became one of china s most notorious child abduction cases, in part because his parents refused to give up looking for him. rich preston has the story. this was the moment mao yin s parents were able to hug their son for the first time in 32 years. mao yin was just two years old when he was taken in shanxi province in north west china. thousands of children go missing in china every year, but his parents never gave up hope. his mother, li, devoted her life to finding her son, giving up herjob, crossing the country handing out flyers and joining teams of volunteers investigating other abduction cases. in her search for her own son, she helped 29 other families find their missing children. then, earlier this year, police got a tip off about a man in southwest china and a suspicious adoption in the late ‘80s. it led them to a man named mrgu. they used facial recognition technology and dna testing to confirm that mr gu was in fact mao yin leading to monday s emotional reunion. and what the signs verified to many can be seen just by looking. the family resemblance is almost unmistakable. rich preston, bbc news. now, with much of humanity in lockdown, the natural world has been stretching its legs a bit. or in this case, fins. a tour group off laguna beach in california enjoyed seeing a super pod of dolphins this past weekend there were at least a,000 of the creatures. experts say dolphins live like that to avoid predators like sharks. usually dolphins form pods of a few dozen but occasionally you see one with hundreds or even thousands of the graceful mammals. brief reminder of the nez news, brazilfor brief reminder of the nez news, brazil for the first brief reminder of the nez news, brazilfor the first time brief reminder of the nez news, brazil for the first time has registered a daily death toll of more 1001 day. the overall death toll, 17,971. officially the total number of actions just over 271,000 stop it s not just over 271,000 stop it s not just by far the worst of country in south america, it s another third highest in the world behind only the united states and russia. much more for you any time and all the national and international news on the bbc website and you can reach me and most of the team on twitter. thank you so much for watching. hello there. tuesday was very sunny and very warm for some of us but not for all. in fact, it was the warmest day of the year so far with 26 degrees recorded in stjames park in london. but i suspect wednesday will be warmer still and a little more widespread across the country. however, it s going to be a chance of a few thunderstorms on thursday, then as we head into the weekend, fresherfor all of us. but for the time being, high pressure, the dominant feature, and it s keeping these weather fronts out in the atlantic for the moment. that s allowing ahead of it a southerly feed of very warm air coming up from the very near continent. so despite a little bit of early morning mist and fog around, it will be a mild start, as you can see, widespread double digits. now, any murkiness close to the coast will lift quite readily away, and there will be lots of sunshine coming through the day. just a little bit of fair weather cloud into the north, and maybe some showery outbreaks of rain into the northern isles. here, a little disappointing, but the warmth will be quite widespread low 20s into central scotland, as high as 27 perhaps in the south east that s 81 fahrenheit. it s worth bearing in mind if you are going to be spending a little more time outside, where we ve got the sunshine, we are looking at high uv levels throughout the day. now, as we move out of wednesday into thursday, that whether front will start to push and from the atlantic, and it s going to bring some outbreaks of light showery rain to scotland. so starting off pretty grey and wet to the west, that will drift its way steadily east, allowing for an improvement. at the same time, it stays pretty hot and humid in the south east corner, and that could trigger off a few sharp, thundery downpours. dodge the showers, keep the sunshine, again, we could see highs of 27 degrees. but the real change arrives on friday. you can see quite clearly, more of a significant area of low pressure, tightly squeezed isobars around that centre of the low that means the strongest of the winds look likely through northern ireland and western scotland. gales not out of the question. some sharp showers or longer spells of rain as we go through the day. more cloud generally on friday, and as a result, not quite as warm top temperatures of around 11 20 degrees. 68 fahrenheit. a fresher start to the weekend, but for england and wales, into next week, heat set to build yet again. this is bbc news. the headlines: more than a thousand virus related deaths have now been recorded in brazil, making it the worst hit country in south america. more than 270,000 infections have also been recorded, placing it behind only the united states and russia. the global pharmaceutical giant johnson &johnson is to stop selling talcum based baby powder in north america. the company has denied allegations that the powder it uses contains cancer causing asbestos, but has been taken to court thousands of times over the allegations global carbon emissions fell by more than a sixth at the height of the coronavirus lockdown, according to a new study. the reduction was partly due to fewer cars on the road, with daily emissions down by as much as 17%. but scientists warn the reduction may be temporary. you
for all others. you can contact us on twitter or facebook or e-mail us. here s our facebook page this morning with a poll on your favorite president. you can put in your 2 cents on our facebook page. on facebook post your comments. give us who you like and why, on our facebook page. also, send us a tweet. here s a gallup poll that was taken in 2011. that was the gallup poll taken in 2011. in 2012, also we re getting your take this morning on this president s day. who is your favorite and why? the phone numbers all others, 202-585-3882. we will get to your phone calls. but voice of america put out a piece, talking about the u.s. celebrating president s day. it first became a federal holiday in 1879 to celebrate the february 22nd birthday of george washington, the first u.s. president. joe in maryland, democrat, hi. caller: my favorit would have to have been bill clinton. there are so many to choose from. i was very young. it was in high school at the time. he put into place a lot of laws that allow for people like me to go to college. beyond that, he was just incredibly involved in science necessarily see a lot of a a lot of presidents do now. host: from oklahoma, an independent caller. caller: my favorite president has to be lyndon johnson. look what he did for civil rights not only for americans but for everybody in this country. he fought through the garage of our southern states, and he got it through. fought through the brage of our southern states. lyndon johnson said, when i sign these proclamations, i am turning the south over to the republican party. the city just agreed with the emancipation proclamation. this is in 2013. lyndon johnson fought for all americans. i was debating whether it should be johnson or jimmy carter. jimmy carter, in the final history of this country is written, jimmy carter will be among the best up there, not ronald reagan. look what jimmy carter did, by holding to signing treaties with panama, he gave the panama canal back to the panamanians. george bush s father arrested noriega and put him in jail. thank you. host: the washington post editorial page weighs in on the question who gets the washington post this morning on past presidents. iowa, democratic caller, lisa. caller: good morning. president roosevelt. he was the first president i can rememberhcane helped elderly people who did not have anything. i think he started social security. he had a disability, but it did not stop him from being the best president we ever had and never will. host: what would your parents etc. this question? they would ve said the same thing if they were alive, i believe. is this a president you talked about with your parents? the firsts, he s president i remember. i think i was in grade school when he passed away. host: remember your parents talking about him around the dinner table? caller: yes, in the dinner table abandon the cotton fields dinnerhouma, louisiana around the dinner table and in the cotton fields of houma, louisiana. host: are you retired? caller: i am retired, i am in my 70 s. host: minneapolis. caller: my favorite is fdr, mainly because my father worked for the ccc camp. at that time they got $30 a month and and they sent $25 home to the farms and kept most of the farm s going. they kept $5 for themselves. the worst is bill clinton because he signed a free-trade agreement with china. host: nafta? caller: not that. the free-trade agreement with china that gave china most- favored-nation trading status that allowed all of our jobs to go to china. host: richard says that bill clinton was his least favorite. our first caller said that bill clinton was his favorite. on january 23, 1996, here is president clinton during his last state of the union address from his first term. [video clip] we know government does not have all the answers. we know there s not a program for every problem. [applause] we know and we have worked to give the american people a smaller, less bureaucratic government in washington. we have to give the american people one that lives within its means. [cheers and applause] the era of big government is over. [cheers and applause] but we cannot go back to the time when our citizens or left to fend for themselves. [cheers and applause] instead we must go forward as one america, one nation working together to meet the challenges we face together. self-reliance and teamwork are not opposing virtues. we must have both. host: president bill clinton and after the government shutdown. that took place during his administration. we re talking about your favorite president. george is an independent in new york. caller: good morning. bill clinton, because he took a country that was he received the country from george h. w. bush, who did not seem to be a strong president to me, did not really care. we were floundering and he balanced budget, gave us a surplus, and basically showed us it can be done and it can be done very easily. the worst president is jr. bush, because he took a surplus, gave tax cuts to his friends, and squandered a lot of money and sent our kids to war. host: what do you do and how old are you? caller: retired, 62, disability, not happy about it. host: when clinton was in office, were you working? caller: i was. i was happy. i m still proud to be an american, but i d just like the way things are going. they offended over the country to the corporations and oil companies. host: have you always voted for democrats? caller: i have always voted for who i thought was best. i call myself a patriot, not an independent or democrat or republican. i voted for richard nixon, ronald reagan, but after the george bush fiasco, the republicans will not give back the tax cuts that george bush s friends liked and they still like thim. they want to get rid of things people need like social security and medicare. host: paul is a republican. caller: good morning. favorite is george bush. host: george w. or george h. w.? caller: george w. bush. host: why? out, iot going to find guess. let s go to democratic caller in iowa. caller: good morning. my favorite is john f. kennedy. he was brilliant. when he gave his inaugural address, he started the peace corps and he brought young kids to help out with the country. he and his brothers were for the poor. it was not just for the rich. he s my favorite. thank you. host: we will keep getting your thoughts on your favorite president throughout the first part of the morning. let me give you some other headlines in the papers. the new york times front page next to that is the story about obama s plan for citizenship that was put out on saturday. it says none of the 11 million illegal immigrants currently in the country will be granted permanent resident status and given a document known as a green card until the earlier of two dates this was part of the sunday talk shows, the debate over whether or not the president should be putting out the immigration plan when a bipartisan group on capitol hill is working on legislation. denis mcdonough was on meet the press to address the issue. paul ryan was all this week responding to the white house. we will show you that, what the two sides have to say. marco rubio from florida said that this plan is dead on arrival, that republicans are upset with the president putting this fourth. a third story in the new york times, the obama administration is planning that on the front page of the times. the philadelphia inquirer has disavowed a frequent guest here on the washington journal, pour mr. lin for governor. poised to run for governor. and the military may take over drones for the cia. that s the charlotte observer with that on the front page. also, the los angeles times has this the front page of the miami herald has a story about who is behind the scenes for a senator marco rubio. back to your favorite president. matthew in tacoma, washington, democrat. go ahead. is jackson your favorite? caller: it s richard nixon, because he s such a devilish character, but he also did stuff like opening up china. host: all right. we re featuring nixon on american history tv. you can watch on c-span3. we will look at his legacy and the 1993 atf raid in waco, texas. long beach, independent caller, neal. you are on the air? moving on. charles, atlanta, georgia, democrat, hi. caller: hi. our greatest president was john f. kennedy, by far. the reason is because he gave us the good society speech in which he warned americans about the secret societies that were determined to take over america and the change america fundamentally. he was the only president that had the guts to look out for americans. we failed him because we did not find our who was behind the assassination of our president. host: all right. butch in st. petersburg, florida, a democrat, hi. caller: my favorite president is barack obama, because of the things that he has accomplished. so many people came to washington for his inauguration. when the first was elected, he also was the nobel prize winner. he s the best president so far. host: all right. that is our question for all of you. here s the huffington post website this morning with 12 presidential quotes we re getting your take on your favorite president this morning and why. you can post your comments on our facebook page and take a poll. coming up on the journal in about 20 minutes or so, we will get your take on the first ladies. c-span is kicking off a two-part series looking at the nation s first ladies. here s an ad about the series in usa today. it kicks off a 2:00 p.m. today eastern time live with a panel discussion about the influence of the first ladies. we are partnering with the white house historical foundation for this two season original series. go to our website. there is on your screen. c-span.org/firstladies. it is interactive. you can link to the white house historical association redding of pictures and a book you can purchase on their web site. tonight at 9:00 p.m. eastern time,. before that, 2:00 p.m. this afternoon for the panel discussion on c-span. 90 minutes, each of these segments will be. they will air on mondays at 9:00 p.m.. next monday, february 25, we kick off with martha washington. we will turn our attention to the first ladies in 20 minutes on whether they should be involved in political and policy debates. let s go to billy in philadelphia, independent. lincoln is your favorite? caller: yes, that s right. because he gave the ultimate sacrifice and he tried to better people s lives with freedom and everything. host: who comes in second? caller: that would be clinton with the economy. he picked up the economy and we had a surplus. host: who wood your parents have said? caller: probably fdr, because he helped everybody, like social security and when there was no work, he helped people find work, came up with programs to help them get work. i m not sure what it was called because i was not keeping up with it back then. all these programs became up with to help the working man. host: you remember your parents talking about this? caller: i do. host: how did they view government back then? caller: before he helped them, they probably gave it a 0 rating. host: francis, tennessee, republican caller. george washington? caller: correct. because he started the country, made the constitution were initially. before that, and he was the first in war, the first increase. he was a good and virtuous man and set an example for the rest of the president s to follow. host: what example is that? caller: he served two terms and stepped down. he advocated for a long time, people staying out of foreign entanglements. host: who would your parents have said? caller: i don t know, but i hope it would ve said ronald reagan. because he took over our country that was in trouble, and% unemployment, trouble with the soviet or the communist bloc. host: were your parents republicans? caller: not at first, but later. host: a conservatives in washington ramesh ponnuru writes so that is ramesh ponnuru on walt gray in this morning in the new york times op-ed pages. we re getting your take on your favorite presidents. we will continue to do that. first, usa today has the headline that many of the papers have. dennis mcdonald was on meet the press, president obama s new chief of staff, talking about the bill. [video clip] this report, all it says to me is we are doing exactly what we said we would do, which is what we prepared in the event the bipartisan talks on the hill which we are aggressively supporting, if those don t work out, then we will have an option that will be ready. with the president s support something that is more conservative, more stringent than his principles, would be supported with the overall goal of getting a comprehensive bill? i will not say what we will or will not support in the abstract. we want to continue building on the great strategy of border security, want to crack down on businesses that are gaming the system, we want and earned path to citizenship, and we want to the legal system, which is broken, we want that to be reformed. we will continue to push that. host: paul ryan, the top republican on the house budget committee, was also on the sunday talk shows this week. he responded to the white house leaked report on immigration. [video clip] actually i don t. i didn t think that his words were measured in the state of the union. leaking this out does set things the wrong direction. the questions always have to ask ourselves, particularly with this point house, is the president looking for a partisan advantage for a bipartisan law? by putting these details out without addressing future flow, by giving advantage to those zero cuts in front of line, not dealing with border security adequately, that tells us he is looking for partisan advantage and not a bipartisan solution. there are groups in the house and senate working together to get this done. when he does things like that, it makes it much more difficult to do that. this is counterproductive. host: the latest on immigration reform. in other headlines, years the washington post this morning on the keystone pipeline, a march in washington, marching against the keystone pipeline. the business section of the times as well has so that is what the president is facing on the keystone decision. on the gun-control debate, the christian science monitor front page on sequestration, the washington post has and the washington times automatic spending cuts to the tune of $85 billion. a republican caller now from pennsylvania, john. reagan is your favorite? caller: ronald reagan created a lot of jobs. he got rid of most of the soviet union s power. he answered all of my mail every time i send him a letter, he would return it, he would sign it. mr. obama, i did send him a lot of letters about the economy and he never answers. we are in big trouble if we don t renew the capital gains taxes, the corporate tax, the real-estate taxes, and school taxes. if obama does not do any of that, the country will go broke. it s already broke. when mr. reagan was there, he was a lovely president. him.ve host: what did you think of ronald reagan s foreign policy? caller: he had a good foreign policy. the increased our navy, our air force. that s how he defeated the soviet union. nobody ever did that. host: june 12, 1987, ronald reagan, in a speech to the people of west berlin about communism. [video clip] we welcome change and openness, but we believe freedom and security go together, that the in advance of human liberty can only strengthen the cause of world peace. there s one sign the soviets can make that would be unmistakable, that would advance drastically the cause of freedom and peace. general secretary gorbachev, if you seek peace, if you seek prosperity for the soviet union, come to this gate. mr. gorbachev, open this gate. [cheers and applause] mr. gorbachev, tear down this wall. host: president ronald reagan. we have done a lot on the american presidents, house, and even those who did not make it to the presidency with our series the contenders last year. go to the archives are our website, the video library at c- span.org. if you re interested in the ronald reagan speech or the bill clinton s state of the union, it s all in our archives. if we re getting your favorite president this morning and why. john and mountaintop, pennsylvania, republican. i m sorry, i just talked to you. i did not realize you are on the line still. what do you think about that famous line from ronald reagan s speech? caller: that made me feel so proud that i cried. everytime i see ronald reagan i cry, because he was like a father to us. he was there for everyone of us. he answered all my mail every time i write him. host: how old or you when he was the president? caller: i think i was about 42 years old. host: we will go to lisa in massachusetts, a democrat. you say president obama. caller: i like clinton and obama. clinton, because for people like me with a disability. i am 47 years old. i hope they continue with social security and disability. obama and clinton, a child care. for obama, i like him because when he is doing for people like me with a disability and giving people like me a chance to coe me through on other issues in the economy. he is a very honest person that cares about all people. we all have to love one another and understand where they are coming from and be there for those persons and give them the right direction, because these days we need that direction. specially people like me with a disability. host: president obama is taking a long weekend for golfing in florida. this in the new york times this morning on this president s day weekend, you re getting your favorite president and why. in delaware, use a george washington. caller: yes, ma am. when we look at the historical precedents to george washington said as president and as commander-in-chief. without his presidency and is stepping down after his second term, he would not have it. he impressed king george so much that he volunteered to give up power that even king george commented. about commented king george commented about it. john adams would be a nice second place choice. after abraham lincoln, we had big government presidents with an overreaching executive power. a return to our founding president would serve this country and all of its citizens much better in the future. host: daryl, what would your parents had said to this question of their favorite president? caller: my parents probably would have agreed with me. i know my father ed murray abraham lincoln quite a bit. my mother was more of a george washington or john adams. i guess i follow my mother s opinion on this side. my father admired abraham lincoln. host: was this important around the dinner table? caller: very important. we have forgotten where we have been today. so we have lost where we are going. if you don t know who you are as a people or as a nation, you will not be able to identify what you want to be in the future. host: sounds like you ever about american history and about the president s. caller: john adams, when he said .bout our constitution we will never be who we were intended to be in the first place if we forget where we were. host: your favorite book on president s? caller: i cannot even remember the title of many of them. but history is one of my favorite subjects. i do like george herbert walker bush for the fact that he was my commander-in-chief when i deployed overseas in desert storm. as far as a favorite book, i don t think i can give you a title. i ve read so many history books. american patriots guide to history is one of my favorites. i m reading that currently. it opens your eyes as to who we really are when we sat ourselves down in our declaration of independence, which is where george washington was. after the declaration of independence was signed and bed on july 8, george washington went to war while the continental congress when about telling the american people that we declare ourselves independent. not only was our first president before he was our president, he was already our commander-in-chief. without george washington, we would not have had any president s behind him. host: george h. w. bush stands out for you as a commander-in- chief? caller: i served under ronald reagan and george bush and bill clinton. i am retired navy. any retired military man will look at the presidency served under as commander-in-chief and recognize them as somebody who followed their orders when called, he answered. if you are going to compare george herbert walker bush to george washington, there s no comparison. host: modern-day commander-in- chief for you? caller: ronald reagan without a doubt. the defining moment mr. gorbachev, tear down this wall. he ended the clampetts of global nuclear war. in one move, he moved to the nuclear armageddon clock five minutes and ended the cold war period. when you look at roosevelt and truman and potsdam following world war ii, a lot of that did not need to happen, can be stepped up to the plate in that moment of history there may not have been a cold war. host: i want to get your take fire series that we are debuting today on c-span about first ladies and their influence and image. what you think about this idea of digging into the first ladies and their lives before they were part of the presidency and their lives after traveling all over the country to talk about it to these first ladies? caller: first ladies, i have to be honest, i have started the president s more. a man cannot be a man without a wife and the mother in his family. you have to go back to martha washington, sewing our first continental flag. you have the wives of our presidents involved in their lives to the point where to say the presidential decisions are not done without consulting their wives is naive. you can look at some of the policies that were made and you can probably attribute a lot of back to their wives influence. host: should first lady s advocate political and policy issues? caller: that s probably best done in private. the president is the elected person there to answer the questions. i think the policy decisions should be made with the president and his wife. and if we elect a female president, her husband and her spouse can have that discussion if in the white house over dinner. host: let me put this fourth for you as a history buff, daryl. the producers of this series on c-span have said a you will learn some new things not only about these first ladies but about their husbands as well and give you greater context of their husbands and the decisions that they made in the white house. caller: i am all for history. the more mr. you can put on c- span, as long as it s accurate history it must been with facts and not with spin, history you can put on c-span. host: we will have a live panel discussion this afternoon. that will air again at 9:00 p.m. eastern time. february 25 we will kick things off with marvin washington, our first first lady. her early years before she came to the white house, her influence, her image, and for years after the white house. martha washington. pipa two season original series. our website is on your screen. an interactive web site. you can go and learn about the first lady s you might not know a lot about. when we come back after the break, we will turn our attention to the first lady s fies for 45 minutes and get your take on whether you think they should be advocating political and other influence. we will be right back. [video clip] i think the women themselves in many cases were interested in werebut had no vehicle to express that in their own lives, so they were attracted to men who were going to become politically active or were already politically active. each of them i find intriguing, probably half of them in particular precisely because they re so obscure historical. half of these women probably would be almost totally unrecognizable to most men and women on the street. tonight, c-span s new series first ladies: influence and the image. chefs, curators, social organizers. these and one begins tonight at 9:00 eastern and pacific on c- span, c-span radio, and c- span.org. 2:00 p.m. eastern on c-span, earlier in the day, you can watch the program. [video clip] i had dealt with a number of other religious cults that have similar philosophies to david koresh s. i had found that in some of these cases, when they are leading such groups that they make certain prophesies as to things that are going to happen. when these things don t happen, they begin to lose face. when they begin to lose face, then they have to do something to make it happen so that they don t lose face. he had a bird s nest on the ground. he had everything going for him. he was not about to give that up. one of the situations that i was concerned about that i have seen happen with similar groups in the past was that he would need to do something in order to bring about his prophecy of this armageddon where law enforcement would assault the compound, they could hold out, they would all die. and in three days they would be resurrected and he would be the good jesus at that point and may be living in the garden of eden. former atf agents recount the raid in texas, tonight on american history tv on c-span3. washington journal continues. host: welcome back on this president s day, february 18. we will talk about our new series debuting today at 2:00 p.m. eastern time, a panel discussion about the influence and goal and image of first ladies. in the style section of the washington post it has a piece about our yearlong series of american presidents wives beginning tonight. we will air that panel discussion again at 9:00 p.m. eastern tonight. two panel discussions on the topic of first ladies. if monday, february 25 at 9:00 p.m. eastern, martha washington. then we will go through the first place. we will do the series in two parts. we will take the summer off and we return in the fall to continue looking at the first lady s all the way up to michelle obama. in conjunction with the new series, we did a poll, a national survey conducted on line for us about first ladies. how does your opinion excuse me, this is the first question so we want to hear from men and women on this issue of what you think the role of the first lady should be. 202-585-3882, for all others. we re taking your comments on facebook, on twitter, or you can send us an e-mail on this topic. should they be advocating political and policy issues? more from the poll that we did. does opinion of first ladies that influence your view of the president? should first ladies receive a government salary? what are your thoughts this morning? should first ladies advocate political and policy issues? we want to get your take. you can start dialing in now. i will go to the washington post in their style section in the article they did on the series. go to our website c-span.org. you can see bios of historians participating in the series. we have pictures of althol the first ladies and you can click on them. her biography will be there when you click on it. there s also linked to the white house historical association also on our website. we have partnered with them for this series. in tennessee, a democratic caller. what are your thoughts, first ladies advocating political and policy issues? caller: yes, i think first lady is a title that has become a roll over time. a role. it is no different than a man s wife or a preacher s wife. i don t think the first lady s role should be to advocate politically but only to support her husband or the president s views. host: sarasota, florida, republican caller, jo. caller: good morning. let me preface by saying a member of my family came over on the mayflower. they went back. there were a member of the crew. i m coming at this from a long viewership of c-span. any time a first lady starts to get into politics, which she should be able to do, then then she should be open up to the same type of criticism that we are all so eloquently doing today. everything she says should be scrutinized just like it seems to be about every president we have these days. no flack. you open your mouth, you are into the fray. host: do you think that happened with hillary clinton and nancy reagan? caller: when hillary clinton went on late-night television and she said everything that has been said about my husband is a right-wing conspiracy, and nancy reagan when she changed out the china in the white house, she was criticized beyond belief. but that goes on and on. what about eleanor roosevelt? we can go back and forth and back and forth. i think it s because we don t want to really deal with the serious issues and that this country is facing, right in your face today. if michelle obama wants to say something radical, which she has said before many times, she has stepped into the fray. whoever does that steps into the whirlpool and they will get whatever the media wants to say about them. god bless them all and i wish them all very well. thank you. host: 1 of historians participating in this series, here s what he had to say on the first lady s role as confidante. [video clip] she becomes the chief confidante. she s the only one in the world he can trust, in a way, so he unloads to her and talked to her. they have all done that. they are all strong women. they usually accompany a strong man to where he is. i would say that is their main role, confidante to the president. but then they do have these other consistent goals of appearing to be the hostess of the white house. consistent roles. other times their hands on first ladies that approve all menus and everything, such as mrs. eisenhower and mrs. kennedy. that sort of detail. but there are other people who really carry that low. but it s the two of them together that s the head of the whole business. it s a pretty lonely house without a first lady. host: to help kick off our series about first ladies, their image and their role and includes the white house. we re getting your take iris in michigan. caller: hi. my husband had a title but i was his wife. whenever i did i did. it worked out successfully. i don t think that much attention should be paid to the first lady s fashion. no more focus is on her. it is nice if she has something to do. it should not interfere or intrude on the president s job. it is a job. i like what jackie kennedy did. she refurbished the white house. i think her role is of a wife. i do not feel her politics matter to the country. if she wants to do something good, that s great. adon t think they should get more focused than the wives of other people who have good jobs, better jobs, or in between. and take care of the family. host: this is or bush on her take of the first lady. [video clip] the first lady has a podium and she chose to use it. i think knowing that after i made the presidential radio address at the treatment of women and children in afghanistan by the taliban. we went shopping. ladies that the cosmetics counter in the department store came up and said thank you so much for speaking for women in afghanistan. that was the first time i thought, hey, they heard me. i knew what ladybird had set of course. host: laura bush in tehran words on the use of first lady in her own words. we have all the first ladies in their own words. you can go to the website and see what many people have said about the role of the first lady. that is all on our website, c- span.org \firstladies. this is one from martha washington. host: steady as a clock, busy as a bee. host: jordan, democratic caller. caller: i love all the first lady s and have loved all the first ladies in all my years. are anothert lady s voice piece for any and every issue that we should be talking about in our country and around the world. they promote any type of legislation or any of the issues that we need to be talking about. they get to use that in one of the most public personas through the media. there is no way any of the presidents of the united states would have been able to do anything they did a lester was a night martha washington or in mrs. thomas jefferson standing beside them and the white house. host: who do you think has been successful, modern-day first place at advocating something they cared about? nancy reagan say no to drugs. caller: in my experience, i have to go back to mrs. clinton and everything she did in the senate or in congress. whenever she would get into an argument about any issue, she would stand her ground. as much as i grew up watching i can give you a specific issue right now. just the tenacity of that woman. she was so positive. women have that ability. it is lovely. host: advocating for health care as a first lady that president clinton wanted to put forward, testifying on capitol hill. linda in georgia. you are on the air. caller: hello. good morning. host: good morning. caller: i was thinking the first lady should be involved in policies no, she shouldn t. charities and stuff, yes, but not the president s job. that is his job. as far as lawyers like her having the job, he needs her to travel with him or whenever. she should be there with her husband. that is replaced with him. host: ok, linda. in the washington post style section article it says host: said richard norton smith in the washington post this morning. good morning, david. what are your thoughts on this topic? good idea? caller: yes. host: why? caller: i think american women should not be role models for all womens of the world, with their husband or not with their husband. american women is not the role model of the world. host: that is david. this comes from twitter. host: here is what the former first lady hillary clinton had to say about the role of first ladies and an event honoring them. [video clip] i was asked to say a few words about this event and remarkable gathering of the women whom you saw on the stage. i feel privileged to be in their company. women who have contributed to our country in so many ways. as i have learned this past 15 months, there is no prescription or role model or cookbook for being first lady. if you look back at the lives of martha washington or abigail adams or dolly madison or edith wilson or many eisenhower, you can see mamie eisenhower, each woman has defined the role as true for herself. how she can make her contribution to our nation. whenever our individual causes, all first ladies share one common goal to help in rich enrich the appreciation of this beautiful country and each has in some light tried to enhance and preserve the natural beauty around us. walking along the white house grounds, i am reminded about all of the people who have lived there before and all of the women. you can see in the trees that were planted, but their handiwork and their concern. host: hillary clinton in 1994 at an event honoring first ladies. kevin in ohio, what do you think? caller: i like betty ford and what she did with the equal rights amendment for women of modern-day. think the ford s overall president ford pardoned richard nixon and the healing for the country. i like the fords and what they did in their short time in office. host: hi, mary. caller: good morning. i admire the women who are first ladies and do it worthwhile projects. assigning that role to them, it takes away from the possibility that there could be a woman president. obviously the gentleman gets smart and gets elected president and his little self is supposed to do something nice. i think it is putting women into a role that does not allow them to go on to the next step. caller: may i ask how old you are? caller: i am 43. host: what is hillary clinton were to run for president? caller: i think the way she conducted herself as first lady was not very good. she did a magnificent job as the secretary of state. so i think she erased all that stuff she did as first lady. host: do you think she was able to become senator of new york because of the way she was as first lady? caller: well, all i can think of is her as first lady as what the gentleman said before when he said this is a right-wing plot against my husband. that is all that comes to mind for her as first lady. host: democratic caller from washington, d.c. caller: i think the first lady is walking through the same date as her husband in the political realm. she is truly supporting him. we ve looked to her in many ways. she is taking a step with the president. all great leaders have had a great woman behind them. n and burst and kings even emperors and kings. women provide that balance. eisenhower and mrs. obama and mrs. clinton was one of the greatest in my opinion. she made her ground and stated and was pharaoh in everything she did. she was pharaoh in everything she did. mrs. obama is no difference. there s always a change in the climate and the running of the country. host: what do you think about the attention first ladies get for their image? caller: it is crucial to make yourself appear a properly. being the first lady is the loyalty of the united states, much like the queen of england if she were to have a king. you are representing our country. each of first lady understands that, as any woman would. so yes, it would come with the territory. she will look her best, especially someone in power. it should not be paid someone s attention. each of these women are totally influential of what is going on in the country. .hat s what these women use look at kennedy. she used her style to be in arrowhead in history. there was so much attached to that. these women use what they can. they are intelligent. presenting yourself well as one way to make herself heard. host: influence an image is what we will be talking about for all the first lady s. we debut our series today on c- span with a discussion about the topic of first ladies. if you miss it, we will re- air it tonight at 9:00 p.m.. every monday on c-span at 9:00 p.m. eastern time, looking at each of first lady. we began with martha washington and we go through michelle obama. more from the washington post s style section this morning. host: she sat down for interviews. you can see at circuits excerpts on a website. [video clip] i think to the extend this feels natural to me, i would never have thought being first lady would feel natural. i try to make it me. i try to bring michelle obama into this while respecting the tradition that is american s. host: first lady michelle obama. there s more on our website, c- span.org. jj in silver spring, maryland. caller: good morning. it can at times shoulder ignorance of other aspects of the policies. nancy reagan was in the former soviet union and was touring churches with lisa gorbachev raisa gorbachev. she made an effort to bring a focus on the lack of religious freedom in the former soviet union. it was united states policy at one time. it resulted in the deaths of hundreds of americans at wounded knee. the policy was to stamp out the ghost movement. that is a piece of american history a lot of people do not know about. he should have some knowledge about that. host: bill from connecticut. caller: good morning. i think the role of the spouse of the president should be whenever the president and the spouse what the role to be. ernesto constitutional definition of the spouse of the president s there is no constitutional definition of the spouse of the president. the spouse of the president can be an effective person in setting lots of agendas that are part of the government and part of the white house. there is no direct power that goes to the spouse of the president. the spouse has a tremendous indirect power. napoleon wrote true power is in direct power and i think he was right on that. it is up to them about what the role of the spouse of the president should be. host: carlos from oklahoma. caller: good morning. how long after the first lady has been in office with her husband this is a different question which should be considered for president? michelle obama it is one of the most educated ladies in recent times. how long after that which should be considered for the role? host: would you like to see her run someday? caller: i think her moral character is very good and she could do well. host: here s richard norton smith, frequent guest on washington journal, talking about ladybird johnson. [video clip] lady bird johnson is a traditional first lady who made it very clear to anyone who would listen that her husband s welfare came first and she came third. but equally important, she is an advocate. will know about beautification we all know about beautification. ladybird johnson is an environmentalist long before that term caught on. it wasn t just america getting less ugly. she was into goal in the creation of the headstart program. if she had done nothing else, that would entitle her to a significant place in history. host: richard norton smith on lady bird johnson and her role as first lady. the influence and image of the first lady s beginning with martha washington. we will go through all the first ies. we are kicking off the series today about first ladies. democratic caller, hi there. go ahead. caller: my thought about women in politics is that right? host: that is right. caller: i think they should be able to participate. i think that he should continue to use women. some have been criticized for sitting in the back of everything. men have always been on the top of everything. women are speaking out more and i think they should be able to speak political and have their own issues about the things that are going on in america. god has always used man so far and not women. host: that is part of the series we will be talking about. their stewardship of the white house and their approach to private and public life. those are the topics we will delve into in this new c-span series. republican caller from new york. air.ou re on the listen to me and not on the television. caller: thank you for taking my call. i would like to express my views about the role of the first ladies. they have not been elected to office leiter husband s like their husbands. she should have charities most of the country but never policy. look what happened in benghazi. thank you very much. host: masscult you are may i ask how old you are? caller: yes. you? how old aere caller: i didn t understand the question. i am 77. i remember eleanor roosevelt. 77. host: we will go on to thomas in illinois. caller: good morning. i do not think we should generalize this. it depends on the first lady, the issue, the president. bill clinton was the first lady. i would like to see him go through ego management. the first lady, should be open to criticism if he makes comments about policy and even ridicule. host: a contributor had this to say about the first lady the we have not talked about. [video clip] nelly taft interests me more than the others on the list. she was very bright, very astute politically. had she been male, would have gone into politics herself. that was not possible and that era. picked a man that would take her into politics and made her his first priority. she acted out her fantasy of wanting to be in the white house. i think that makes for interesting as far as a first lady. host: part of our first lady series. c-span conducted a poll online in conjunction for this series. host: 56% of male say no to pushing for policy positions. nancy in pennsylvania. caller: hi, how are you? host: good morning. caller: i think this is an interesting topic. i applaud michelle obama and dr. baden for supporting their husbands in office and our returning vets. the veterans are revitalizing our farmland. they are purchasing land that has been left due to the economy. host: are right, nancy. all right, nancy. our series debuts today. there is the website. go there for more information on our series. we have a lot of information on the website. will be watched, beginning today we hope you watch, beginning today. we ll take a quick break. we ll come back and talk with douglas brinkley. then we will look at presidential benefits on this presidents day. [video clip] i do not want to be in the second place i was 20 years ago. see a process of management that is much more market driven so that things like incentive option will continue to work. the secondary market works in a smoother way that does now. but the growth rate in data usage. we re seeing the% rates on an annual basis and there is no slowing down. there is a hunger for more capacity. the cable industry has a long future. more from the consumer electronics show with the future of cable tonight at 8:00 p.m. eastern on c-span2. i think the women themselves in many cases were interesting but had no vehicle to express that in their own lives, so they were attracted to men who were going to become politically active or were already politically active. each of them i find intriguing, probably half of them in particular precisely because they re so obscure historically. i think half of these women probably would be almost totally unrecognizable to most men and women on the street. tonight, c-span s new series, first ladies: influence and the image. with historians, chefs, curators, social organizers. exploring the lives of women who served as the first ladies. season one begins tonight at 9:00 eastern and pacific on c- span, c-span radio, and c- span.org. what s the program earlier in 2:00 p.m.livlive at eastern on c-span, earlier in the day, you can watch the program. washington journal continues. host: we want to welcome back douglas brinkley. let s begin there. what is the history books say about two-term presidents? guest: if you get two terms, you automatically get ranked higher. richard nixon had a truncated second term. the voters are giving you another four years is the big mark of creating a legacy. we do not like to get rid of presidents in the middle of a war. you do not want to change commanders midway through. i grew up in ohio. we were just down the road from fremont where rutherford b. hayes was president. he said we needed one term at six years. some people argued it would stop presidents to do what is expedient to what is right for the country. you have a short time to get things done then you re back campaigning again. some of our greatest presidents had second terms. host: why do presidents have two terms? guest: many want to stay in power. look at barack obama. his biggest achievement was obamacare. he needs a second term to institutionalize that, make it almost a birthright. if he had one term, obamacare one of been overturned or driven out of office. you can see how long portman that eight years to be able to change the bureaucracy and brand your policies in a real way. also the supreme court justices. barack obama had two supreme court justices. he will pick up one and maybe two in his second term. there s a power to second term that is not fair if you lose. is not there if you lose. you go down into the dustbin of history and your rehabilitation is much harder. we are recognizing how astutely bush dealt with the breakup of the soviet union and the berlin wall coming down, the liberation of kuwait. host: go through the history of presidents as the american people agree to give a present a second term. go through the history for us. gues st: frank and roosevelt franklin roosevelt rose a feeling we needed to limit president s ts to two terms. fdr casts such a large shadow over our times, being elected four times. starting with george washington, he became our first president. the jeffersonian and hambletonian s started feuding. washington had to do with great britain, how do we organize the government of the united states? how do we collect taxes? really big issues. he was being attacked quite a bit in his second term. there is a vicious election with adams and jefferson. you needed to have a strong chief executive. once there is a vector, we have to rally around the president. you get the trappings of what is being reported in the newspapers. it allows you a position to get reelected easier. dwight eisenhower won two terms. nixon, while the reagan, bill clinton, barack obama ronald reagan. people like to have a president for eight years. host: douglas brinkley, presidential historian, here to take your calls this morning. republican , 202-737-0002. democrats, 202-737-0001. all others, 202-628-0205. this is from congressional quarterly. second terms tend to be more difficult. guest: i do not know if i believe that. i hate to be the contrarian. any president would rather be in their second term than being in a first term with a huge election looming. i think you get a lot of relief in a second term. there is scandalous that occur in a second term nixon in watergate, clinton and monica wednesday. would bill clinton has been without a second term? we had a balanced office and a surplus by the time he left office. that s what history honors about bill clinton. could not have done that without a second term. we do not dwell on ronald reagan s iran-contra debacle. margaret thatcher said reagan won the cold war without firing a second shot. he took those trips in his second term. this notion of a division of first and second terms is a little bit overwrought. if second terms were so bad, fdr would not have a third or a fourth. clock isalize obama s running in a second term. it can be harder to do deals in a second term. he can use executive order. host: what will george w. bush be with a second term? we have this from twitter from sea dog. guest: the bush library is opening this april. recently got a chance to tour it. a piece of steel from the second tower at 9/11. the museum brings you back to 9/11. the right wasn t thing to do, the iraq war. there were no weapons of mass destruction. history plays crazy tricks. 43 get higher marks. i think he was hurt by the economy bottoming out in 2008. some people say that s not the president s faults. an economy tanks on your watch, you ll get a blame. host: c-span will be in taxes for the georgette bush library. in a bad call is up first for douglas brinkley. caller: good morning. many two-term presidents have there been? how many have been libertarian or independent? there are real news issues like the turning of our police into nazi death squads. guest: i do not know where to begin. some of them will no. now.l k one of the most under sun is james monroe undersong. he was part of the virginia dynasty. he was a brave soldier for washington. then he became our great minister for thomas jefferson. he made the deal for the louisiana purchase. he was a minister to france and great britain. he treats the monroe doctrine in protecting the western hemisphere from foreign and military powers. he acquired florida from spain and created a border we take for granted between the united states and canada in create the world s largest safe zone between two countries. the time he was president was the era of good feelings. there were operating more from americans than from a particular state. i would rather skip the pipeline and the nazis. host: we have covered the keystone pipeline debate. which president or presidents have wasted a second term or not been successful? guest: richard nixon because of the tapes. when he came into the white house, he did not have the taping system. he was tracking in 1969 with the economy. he thought he had a smart strategy in asia. other presidents have used taping periodically, but nixon up andthe white house o and nixon wins largest landslide election but he is out of office not long after that. spiro agnew gets tossed out of office because of scandal. it was a man with a great legacy going. we would have been honoring nixon in a different way now. the tapes keep tripping him up because of anti-semitic remarks were anti-plaque remarks. holeaints himself in a who cost of these tapes. caller: hi. abouteen hearing a lot president obama getting another term. is that even possible? guest: no. he is a two-term president. there will sign big book contracts. i imagine it would be over $10 million to barack obama. then he will build a presidential library in chicago what would think around the university of chicago campus. you start your career as an ex- president. you re getting out of office in your 50 s. you have decades ahead of you. jimmy carter won a nobel peace prize and works on disease ratification and holding democratic elections from the world. bill clinton with his global initiative and all the great work he does to help people. you re seeing ex-president s with a whole new life as a global superstar and i m sure barack obama will fill that bill, going around the world in a row noble prize winning figure. host: sam in d.c. caller: you were talking about a tradition of to term presidents two-term presidents. becoming more less partisan? do things become more sanguine? guest: history is like a roller- coaster. there s not a set rule. what i think one can say is that this is something the media does not focus on you get all your best people as cabinet officials in your first term and you and surround yourself by the best and brightest. in your second term, you get the b-listers. there s a thing called bureaucracy. all these reports and studies in the first term become available now for a president to act on. all these proposals have worked their way through bureaucracy like you cannot imagine to be able to be national monuments. barack obama could create five national monuments in one afternoon. one for colonel young, african- american in ohio. these are ready to go and the president could sign it or get rid of that. the late work was done in his first term. there are some great advantages you have in the second term. nobody will do business with you in a year. you have an immense amount of power. prerecord and judicial nominations alone. people know you re not faced barack obama again. most president s dream of being a two-term president. you don t have to worry about fund raising. it allows you to be innovative. barack obama is announcing a massive study on the brain. he is able to go to israel for the first time and will do something large with china. they can focus on foreign affairs in the second term. host: that story is the front page of the new york times this morning, focusing on brain science. a project that could cost billions of dollars. hi, roy. caller: hi. thank you for c-span. i have enjoyed your commentary for years. i like your recent tone. you re so calm and collective. i remember eisenhower. has history treated him pretty good? he did not hear much other than the interstate highway. i was interested that a lot of his family seem to come out for president obama? i thought that was fantastic. interesting.f agi guest: eisenhower is having a wonderful moment in time. a man from princeton had talked about the hidden handed presidency. john dulles wast running things. many books have been written about eisenhower. ike is going up for a number of reasons. he got us out of the korean war. we are trying to get out of iraq and afghanistan. chuck hagel is an eisenhower republican. ike had the defense posture called the new look. they cut back on missile systems and on u.s. troops during that time. there were being fiscally responsible when it came to defense spending. obama will have a new look defense posture in some ways. on relied in the 1950 s nuclear-weapons and president obama has a drone policy, defense on the cheap, as they used to call leit. role warre earl warren appointed to the supreme court. he acted in american interest when he defended egypt. nobody would argue it wasn t brave of eisenhower to do so. the greatest public works project on his watch. the st. lawrence seaway. he created nasa, which led the way to the kennedy years in going to the moon. barack, the federal troops to protect school girls going to school and dealing with the implementation of brown. the virtues of eisenhower were quite strong. n a thirdhave won third to term. host: this from twitter. guest: well, of course, depending on how you look at things. some people vote for the lesser of two evils. many dreamed for a third party s.at never quite cohere the leader roosevelt had a party theodore roosevelt had a party because people did not want to vote for taft or wilson. he could not win with a third party. george wallace grabbed a hold of the south. h. ross perot got 19% of the vote. there are times enough people say, i cannot vote for either of these guys any third-party movement starts coherent but they usually only get so far. host: what about the role of congress at the time of the president s second term? this comes from twitter from sharonb. guest: well,look. there is truth to that. you have to have a president that is willing to do business. bill clinton made the term triangulation famous. you might say that is giving clinton too much credit once waltham reform once welfare reform worked. there is the thing wrong with taking ideas from the other party and claiming responsibility if they work. it doesn t detract from the degree to congress to say bill clinton did a good job. coopting central gingrich ideas and climbing them as his own. we can judge these presence at the end by the performance. are we better off eight years later? he will get credit for that, a matter what the form is that brought him to that place. host: harold is joining us from florida. caller: thank you for taking my call. you mentioned lomonroe. everson was against purchasing the louisiana purchase. he finally did it. also i would like to say that an author took off on secretary of state john foster dulles with some pretty skidding accusations. pretty scathing accusations. clinton left bush a surplus. bush signed off on a deficit as a result of the wars. would you care to comment on those statements? guest: i thought it would be fun to throw in a different two-term president. monroe was very well-respected when he was president. the monroe doctrine had implications during the cuban missile crisis. we implement it all the time. theodore roosevelt famously said to keep the monroe doctrine when he built the great white fleet. we started having a huge navy to patrol the hemisphere. you are right. the problem george w. bush has is the deficit. if you are inheriting a huge surplus in eight years later were in debt, which happened? what happened? the answer you will find will be 9/11. we concentrated homeland security. part of that is making the airports and river parts sacred part of that was sending soldiers and engineers to iraq. we re trying to understand all of that, was it worth it? most people feel it was not worth it. history can play tricks on you. we do not have documents for 25 years to know what threats we were facing after 9/11. we do know our airports and ports scott safe. we did have homeland security. we do know that our airports and ports got safe. we did have homeland security. when you drive a deficit so far in the other direction with a war like iraq, it had better have been the right or. host: the next caller is richard. caller: you talk about two-term president. i am thinking about eisenhower and ronald reagan. we re still paying a price for iran. also guatemala. overthrowing an elected left- wing government, we overthrew him. that has serious consequences. also, the cold war. we supported any right-wing military dictatorship in central and latin america as long as they yelled communism when anyone tried to take their rights. also, ronald reagan. the war in nicaragua. plenty of people in nicaragua and lost their lives. also in honduras and other central american countries. that was the legacy they left. we re still paying a price in our relationship with iran. guest: it is a wonderful and important call. you are correct. someone was asking the virtues of eisenhower and i gave them. if you want to see the downside or reliance on massive retaliation that occurred in the 1950 s, part of it was relying on the cia more with covert activities. i believe there is a new book about the dulles brothers i am looking forward to reading. eisenhower made a mistake in iran and guatemala. i am in agreement with you on the notion of using the cia to topple governments does not work well. i was always opposed the reagan s behavior dealing with the contras in nicaragua. it was eating up too much political oxygen. it cost him quite a bit with the iran hostage to baca de bacle. there was a fear that if cuba was pro-soviet, the whole hemisphere would go that way. the examples you gave are low moments in their long eight-year careers. host: this is from twitter. guest: i am so fond of grant. are grew up in ohio. grant was born in my state. i am a civil war buff although i do not write on it. as president, mediocre. he had scandal surrounding him at all times in his administration. that hurt. there is a professor that wrote a pulitzer prize-winning biography of grant. my friend just through a very fine book on grant worth reading. you can find the virtues in his presidency in many different ways. i am writing on national parks are now. grant created yellowstone, keeping the integrity of that great american ireland to in a loan great american heirloom together. he tried to keep the united the country united. there is no more poignant moment in post-civil war history than when grant is at home in new york and these confederate and union soldiers are coming to nod or salute grant. he was buried in new york in the tomb treated as one of the great heroes of american life and times. there are many ways to read about his life and presidency. host: we re talking with douglas brinkley about the history of to-term presidents. frank is the next caller. you have got to turn the television down. caller: we were talking about presidents just now. how about clinton? in 1996 when he appointed his wife to reevaluate the welfare system, and she took all of the welfare recipients and put them in the va hospital along with the bums that used to beg on the street. i go to the va as a world war ii veteran. when i go to get service, they charge might aarp and medicare. the va is not paying for anything. who is getting all the billions of dollars to run the system? host: frank, got your point. who is your favorite president? caller: i was a roosevelt. he started the wpa and put a lot of people to work. the people loved him. he talked to them on their level. people responded to him. host: mr. brinkley. guest: fdr on any poll is one of the top three presidents. it is usually at lincoln, washington, and fdr. the stories are extraordinary. we do not have time for the mall. i want people to imagine what happened. he was struck with polio. he went swimming and went to bed with the chills. he woke up in the morning and could not use his legs or move. he would work just to be able to walk 3 feet. that was a big accomplishment. the way he rebuilt his mind. he would go fishing. it was not just to escape or have a vacation. he would reel in giant fish to build up his upper body because he had no strength in his lower half. you can see the thermal pools where he tried to get relief. he was suffering, and yet led our country through the great depression and world war ii. the caller mentioned the wpa. the cisco the success of the wpa and cca are mind boggling. the work they did to our infrastructure and protect our wild america, civil war battlefields, and historic homes, it is remarkable what franklin roosevelt did. my admiration for him knows no bounds. host: louis, cincinnati, a democratic color. you are on the air with douglas brinkley. caller: i would like to ask mr. brinkley if he remembers vietnam in 1954. president eisenhower signed the agreement to the vendor to defend the vietnam people from communist aggression. i think that is what started the vietnam war. guest: eisenhower also did not come to the aid of the french in 1954. he did not want to get brought in to another land war. he got us out of korea. he was not happy with the results. i do not think we can blame the onus of the vietnam war on eisenhower. there is some evidence kennedy was sending advisors and ratcheting up american involvement. there is also evidence that before he died, he was not going to be brought into a land war with our troops in vietnam. we will never know. we do know lyndon johnson did got to get us into vietnam. i view vietnam as johnson s war. nixon continued and extended it. we did not get much results. we lost 58,000 men and an untold number of americans wounded psychologically or physically. host: mass., clay, independent caller. caller: as i understand it and i read jim douglas book and several others on the kennedy administration, there was the saigon military mission. he inherited the covert wars from john foster dulles and others during that time. i understand kennedy wanted to pull out of vietnam under his national security memorandum. where it is confusing to the public is that jack kennedy politically have to keep the company line about not being soft on communism and convince the public and powers to be that he would defend vietnam. more importantly, he absolutely wanted to pull out. he was not ambiguous. he wanted to keep american troops out of vietnam. could you please comment on the? thank you. guest: i tend to agree with the thrust of your argument. there is some evidence in september of 1963, not just memos but also interviews he gave, that made it clear we were not ready for a war in vietnam. in the memos, there is compelling evidence to say kennedy would have kept us out. 1964 would be an election year. i read a new document about kennedy wanting the conventions in color because he thought he would look better in color and the republicans. in the weeks before his death, he was gaining for the 1964 campaign. he would have had to take the position of being soft on communism trade policy was, if reelected, there is no evidence he would have gone into vietnam which johnson did. i do not think we complained vietnam on kennedy. we will never know. he never got to live to experience 1964. we will never see what he did. i am on the side that you are, this was not kennedy s war. host: harold, go ahead. caller: i would like to ask mr. brinkley. president eisenhower, d-day. i can remember the documentary. he was talking to the 104th 101st airborne. he knows full well 1/3 of them will not be alive in a few days. did he write anything in his memoirs about how that affected him? i will give you an example of what i am talking about. we had a meeting. this guy was the captain of the ship around vietnam time. one of his men got killed. they buried him at sea. he kept control of his emotions so that the ceremony would go on and the morale of the ship would be ok. then he went on to tell me after that, everything got back to order. he went to his cabin and crid like a baby. did eisenhower ever write anything in his memoirs of that nature? yes, he did. guest: yes, he did. his book was a bestseller. a i read it equaled the bible in sales per year in the 1940 s. eisenhower used to say that on sundays during world war ii, he would write and sign letters home to families that have lost their loved ones and how language he was in doing this. he recognized each piece of paper in the pile was a young american. it affected him mightily. and believe he had an aversion to war because of it. uc in his presidency getting out of korea and trying to avoid getting into a ground war. only a general who has seen death can understand you do not romanticize war. it is often people will have not been to war that are the most gene go jingoistic. he was low-key about it and would be very careful. only a last resort to send our soldiers into a trouble spot because you are about and yorktown to get a death toll and have men and women died. you are raising an interesting thing. we re talking about two-term presidents and you are bringing up d-day. what is interesting about your question is we do tend to conflate these people s lives. they become a whole. when we think about eisenhower, it is not just president. it is supreme allied commander. we think about bill clinton and the fact his wife became the secretary of state and he ran the foundation. there is a natural revision if you are lucky to live long enough you can create an ex- presidency. many of our presidents have military glory. people will look back to the holistic way, not just for the eight years you were in the white house. host: we are taking off our original c-span series with the white house history association talking about first ladies. what is your take on that? guest: they are wildly influential. they are usually the number one adviser, not in all cases. i think eleanor roosevelt is in a league of her own. the work she did during the great depression to inspire people to fight for civil rights, women s rights, to be the conscience of the new deal is quite extraordinary. she continued after her husband s death with the united nations declaration of human rights all the way into the 1960 s. my personal favorite of first ladies is lady bird. i live in austin. she built the park where are i run shoebill the part where i run and spend my weekends. the town has a great world power center because she believed in the purification of america. anti-billboard, planting native grasses. she did a great job of working with in my opinion the greatest secretary of interior in history. they would save the redwoods and make sure they became national parks. her beautification campaign was remarkable. host: if our viewers are interested in the first ladies, c-span kicks off its original series with the white house historical association at 2:00 today. we will have to two panels discussing the topic of first ladies. on monday, the board 25, on february 25, we work our way through history. thank you for being with us. next, we will turn our attention to presidential perks and benefits after this break. 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guest: the act was enacted in 1958. the idea occurred around 1912. andrew carnegie decided he wanted to use his foundation to pay about $25,000 a year in pensions to former presidents. the first former president that would have been able to use that $25,000 happened to be his friend taft. taft did not need the money. he was a professor at yale. he became the supreme court justice. he had to walk a delicate balance of telling his friend thanks but no thanks and decided not to accept it. andrew carnegie and never articulated why he wanted to pay the pension. members of congress thought it might be a kick to say maybe this is something we should do. maybe there needs to be a pension for the highest office in the land. a couple of bills were introduced in 1912 but nothing was enacted into law. it was not until the 1950 s when harry truman was having financial difficulties and writing members to congress. sam raburn received a letter from truman that said, please pass this bill to help me keep ahead of the hounds. the bill was enacted in 1958. after that, presidents started receiving a series of benefits. host: what sort of benefits did they get? guest: they get benefits that include a pension, payment for federal staff. their staff gets health and pension benefits. they get other benefits including office space, postage, printing. a handful are in the act itself. there are separate authorizations were they get additional benefits. some might consider their secret service protection and benefit. that is provided in a different part of the code. there are other and benefits like transition benefits that kick in about a month before they leave office and last for six months to help the transition between administrations. host: how how s the law changed how how s the law changed? guest: the tweak was in 2013. one of the big changes was the secret service protection. in 1994, secret service protection was going to be limited to 10 years for former presidents and their spouses. the first president that would have affected would have been george w. bush. the bill was amended to give a lifetime secret service protection. host: what was the debate? guest: there was not much debate. it was passed by unanimous consent. perhaps there was concerne president bush might need secret service protection in perpetuity. it was renewed in 1994. in the 1980 s, there was debate saying former presidents should be able to pay for their own secret service protection. body guardsxon s said former presidents should be able to pay us. apparently, that was rescinded a few days ago. host: how much protection do they get? does it extend to their wives and families? guest: we do not know much about the details. that is protected. we do know is provided to the former president and his wife in perpetuity. children under 16 receive it until they are 16. former presidents are not provided directly by statute. homeland security and secret service can decide to provide protection at any time based on threats. i just called them and asked if they could tell me how many people are assigned to each person in the cost. that is all kept secret. i am sure somebody knows, but it is not made public about how many secret service are assigned to them. host: how much does each former president get for a pension? how s that change? guest: the pension has always been connected to executive level pay provided to cabinet officials. that is currently at $199,700. it was rounded up to $200,000 when they provided the data. they have been giving that amount of time thinking they re still high cabinet officials. they are not still elected officials. it was believed by congress they were still entitled to that level of pay. host: there been efforts to make it higher or tap it? guest: there was an effort last year in congress that was introduced to the years ago. it would have removed the tide to executive level pay and set it at $200,000. it would have removed the benefits the other benefits provided and just given a block of $200,000, an additional $200,000 to the former president. for every dollar of the former president earned in excess of $400,000, $1 would have been removed from the second block of $200,000. host: what about presidential allowances? george w. bush got $1.3 million. bill clinton got $978,000. what is the presidential allowance? why does george bush have $1.3 million and the others have descending amounts? guest: there has been a change in the way the presidential announced breaks out. we are including all benefits in that. historically, the pension has been the big ticket price in the costs associated with former presidents. that was tied to executive level one pay. more recent presidents have seen the change because of the space costs have gone up extravagantly. highest costnton s is his office space. george w. bush had a higher personal compensation in 2012. in the 30 months after you leave office after six months, if you get $150,000 for your personal stuff to help ease into your post-presidential life. that explains the appropriation levels in comparison. it appears presidents who have been out longer cost less than presidents who have more closely been ex-presidents. host: why do they need an office. you noted that is clinton s most expensive tab. why do they get it? guest: this dates back to harry truman and his concerns. he was telling members of congress they needed to pass this law. he was receiving hundreds of letters a day, hundreds of requests for him to do speeches. he had to respond to these requests. that was part of his duties. this was an informal duty brought on by his holding this office. he thought he needed office space, staff, and a way to respond to these requests. the office space was put in for that purpose. host: why do we pay for former presidents trouble? guest: congress decided they have trouble duties associated with the informal position. they are afforded up to $1 million for travel and protection expenses. the travel expenses have never reached that high. host: bill clinton travels all over the world for his global foundation. his travel expenses for 2012, is he picking up the tab when he travels for his foundation? guest: we re not paying for all of their travel and staff. we are paying $96,000 for staff. he can delegate that however he sees fit. he is capped at that. anything above that would be paid by the former president himself. host: patty is the democratic column. is a democratic caller. caller: my dad is retired and gets a pension. he has to take the pay taxes on the pension. the former president s redo the former presidents have to pay to the former presidents have to pay pensions taxes on the pensions? guest: as far as i know they do. they only receive health benefits if they served five or more years of federal service. jimmy carter is ineligible because he only served four years in federal office. george h. w. bush only serve one term as president but many years of federal service with the cia and as u.n. ambassador. he decided not to take the health benefits. he does not receive those. you can decline and that any time. bill clinton and george w. bush both receive health benefits. host: what kind of health care are they getting? guest: they are receiving the same health benefits and the federal pensioner would get in federal service. host: the same that members of congress get. what does that include? is that better than medicare? guest: i think it is exactly the same. i do not think it is better than medicare. it is what every federal employee uses. i am a federal employee. i enjoy my health benefits. i am assuming they are about the same. host: margaret from tennessee, independent caller. caller: they also extend the secret service powers under mr. cheney. the reason they have done this is because i think both men are cowards. they think they have to have protection. i cannot believe they would not give you an amount when you called the government and ask, this cost. why is that a secret? guest: the department of homeland security and the secret service can extend protection to former presidents whenever they think there is a threat or it is appropriate. they would not release those details because they think it could hurt their protection capacity. if you release the dollar amount, they figured you could determine what they might be using to protect the person. they think that may reach some confidence in their ability to provide protection. host: this is from twitter. any provision that says if you are making a good living you do not need this money? guest: a thing that is what the bill in the last congress was trying to speak to. there has historically been a consensus in congress that this is a really high position. after users after his serve, you deserve some recognition and a pension. if you are wealthy, he may not need the extra money to run your offices. the counter argument says just because you are a wealthy who are wealthy and does not mean your services valued less. do you want to make it so that only people who come from less wealthy background receive these benefits? it could say the service you have provided to countries different depending on the ground came from. host: robert is the democratic column. caller: can you explain how much is spent on the libraries for the former presidents? guest: presidential libraries are under the presidential libraries act. i do not have the numbers in front of me for what they pay each year. the construction and getting the land are paid for by the library foundations. the library foundations deed or provide that land and building to the federal government. that is all paid by the foundation. that is private money. the library foundations are required to provide an endowment. the george w. bush library is about to open in a few months. they are required to pay an additional 60% of the cost to acquire the land and construct the building in endowment funds. the libraries are run by the national archive and records administration. they largely controlled the archiving and record-keeping. the president of the light trade of the library is a federal employee. there are costs associated with running them. this endowment is meant to defray those costs for the federal government. host: is this considered a benefit? guest: it is not a benefit pursuant to the former president s act. it could be considered a benefit in some people s minds. could be seen as a benefit to the country. you can go and learn more about the legacy and experience their hometown. you get to go to the home town of the president and soak in where they grew up. that will not be the case for george bush. the library will be at smu, the alma mater of his wife. host: a question on office staff. the we have benefits for former members of congress as well? guest: there is nothing i know of statutory lee statutor ily. they do get pensions. there is an algorithm that sets it appeared that sets it up. if you are in the earlier puncheon the pension, if you are in the earlier pension, is about $70,000 a year. if you are in the more recent category, you are about $40,000 a year. host: joh from kentucky, independent caller. caller: my grandfather was a world war i veteran. my father was world war ii, korea, and vietnam. i did three tours in vietnam. the bottom line is i have been waiting three years for my g-8 stuff. i get $2,500 a month. it is taxable, by the way. i am a retired first sgt.. how can anybody realize the difference between the two? i realize i was just a dumb guy with a rifle in the front. as a top of my friends, we re overwhelmed and the money these people get paid. for what? none of them have done a job in the last 20 years that i know of. just a comment. and really enjoy your program. i really enjoy your program. guest: i want to thank you for your service. i think it is amazing. i think there are jobs as a former president. they do things after they have left office. there are a bunch of examples of former presidents doing amazing things in some doing not as amazing things. herbert hoover coordinated food supplies for world famine. he also chaired the hoover commission to put a lot of administrative requirements on the federal government to make sure that federal records were kept so we could look at the successes and misses of the federal government. andrew jackson bred horses. maybe not as public as somebody like herbert hoover. rutherford hayes fought for education for blacks and whites. presidents today to a lot of on nonprofits. they work to make changes they think they could not or would not make as presidents. they use the platform later and perform these duties. host: there is a debate happening on twitter. this is an individual saying this. people are talking about this as we take a look at the benefits and perks presidents are getting after they leave office on this president s day. we go to doris next. caller: a great program. are the first lady s given analysts after the husbands leave office? guest: former first ladies do not receive anything until they are widows. widows are authorized to be provided 20,000 lives a year in benefits after the has been passes away as long as they do not marry. if they remarry, they lose those benefits. currently, there is no way to accepting the $20,000. in order to accept it, you have to not accept any other pension. he would only get the $20,000. he would only get the $20,000. apparently, the other first ladies have other sources of income they find more compelling than what is provided by the former president s act. the bill introduced in the 112th congress would have changed about $20,000 to $100,000 a year. everywhere owes it was looking to trim costs. with the first ladies, they felt it needed to be addressed. host: lorraine, democratic caller. caller: my question deals with the question you had a couple of minutes ago. you said the president s continue to receive benefits whether they are wealthy or not. there is no difference in those. he said they receive them because of their service. i agree with that. i am wondering why there is talk of benefits to servicemen being cut. they have also serve their country. they have their lives on the line. why is there talk of them losing any benefits at all when presidents are not losing benefits when they are both serving the country? host: sue, washington, republican caller. caller: i am a retired navy wife. my husband is dod employed. with the sequestration coming up, will the president s take cuts? do they get cost-of-living increases and pay raises based on time in service? my husband has gotten none, military or dod in five years. i am curious about how that will work. guest: the pension is tied to executive level one pay. that increases. they would increase as well. the bill in the 100th of congress would have set the level at $200,000 a year. cost-of-living increases would have been provided based on bureau of labor statistics data. host: she was talking about sequestration, automatic spending cuts. guest: i believe sequestration would have all parts of government. it is not clear how the agencies would respond. i have not heard anything about the benefits of former presidents. i assume some cuts would be made to this program as well as others. most agencies have not been clear on what sequestration might do to affect their budgets and operations. host: liz has this comment on twitter. sam, colorado, independent caller. caller: how successful were these presidents when they went into office? what was their status when they came out? i would like to see those figures on other politicians. is that information available on the internet? how can you find out? guest: you see president s fall over the field. there have been some very successful presidents that went into office. herbert hoover wrote the textbook on mining and engineering that everybody bought. he owned mines. he was a wealthy man when he went in and came out. he used that wealth and pulp as a former president to embark on different things he believed in. things like fighting against world famine, and sharing the hoover commission and tearing the hoover commission. i keep looking at my notes because i am not an historian. there are two famous stories about poor presidents. ulysses s. grant left office and went around the world on a trip with his wife. he spent a lot of money. he invested the rest of it with his son. apparently, he was doing at shady deals and lost all the money. he lived off of money provided by friends until he started writing memoirs. at the time, that might not have been an acceptable thing for a former president to do. he wrote his war memoirs. he talked to mark twain about writing his presidential memoirs. there were published by mark twain s publishing company. he did that days before he died to provide money for his wife and children. host: vivian in tennessee, a democratic caller. caller: i am calling to talk about the pay the presidents receive after they leave office. they are talking about how we have a deficit and will not have money in the future. why do we not take some money from them? they re cutting everybody else s salary. the soldiers are not getting the money. they put their countries and the line. something is wrong with this country. have a good day. host: does congress have oversight? guest: congress wrote ala. congress has oversight and authorities over every lot it creates. the general services administration has the authority to determine if the choices made by the president in terms of office space and travel, they negotiate all the deals and sign all of the documents. the general services administration is charged with making sure the former president s act is followed in spirit and walk. and law. the numbers we have seen today are made public. the last time there was an examination by the government accountability office was in 2001 when they were looking at travel and office space. host: on twitter, they are referring to the debate over medicare and social security. lee, rockville, maryland, republican caller. go ahead. caller: i am one of your colleagues at the library of congress. i have today off, as you know. the former vice president spiro agnew had problems with the law. he got convicted. he pleaded no contest to taking bribes and other things. what happened to his attention? guest: the vice-president is not provided a pension directly in the act. i can talk about what happens to presidents who might have had troubles after office. in office. the articles of impeachment were brought against clinton. he was not found guilty in the senate and was not removed from office. richard nixon left office and was not removed. they were eligible to receive benefits provided to former presidents. it is not tested whether somebody removed by impeachment would receive these benefits. host: a right-wing response to the comments about george w. bush saying he saved your hide from the terrorists. when do the president s receive this money? is it one payout each year or monthly? guest: i believe it is a monthly pension. i do not think they get one installment. host: do the president s request the amount of money they need for different things and break it down for the government? guest: they talk to the office of management and budget. it comes out in the president s budget recommendations about what they have said they will need for that year. a lot of it is set by statute. office space is negotiated through gsa. host: we will go to bill , arlington, texas, independent caller. caller: thank you for taking my call. i was a teacher years back. this was one of the projects i gave on the benefits and pensions for presidents. i was amazed at the research that came out of that. i keep a couple of papers. i still have them. what she is saying is very accurate. the numbers have escalated. 20 years ago. what are some of the benefits and pensions of other world leaders such as canada and mexico? guest: i am looking at mexico with our colleagues. i have looked at canada and britain. in britain, it is about 100,000 pounds a year plus inflation. in canada, they just change the law 1 or t of years ago. they just changed the law one or two years ago. it depends on how many years you have as service of service as prime minister. you get benefits as prime minister and as a member of parliament. it is a different form of government. you get both. looking at mexico is important. we re trying to track that down. it is a really old bill. from what i hear and have red read in news reports, the mexican former presidents have a stylus stylish pension. i am waiting to get resources to verify that right now. host: is that something the congressional research service receives a directive from congress to look into? guest: it is a non-partisan research group that works directly for congress. they can write reports to make sure congress has answers whenever they need to look at these ideas or they can toicipate congress s needs write reports to anticipate what they will lead in the cover in the future. host: the next caller is from houston. caller: when your president, that is a job. they have to be protected. not everybody can be a president. ok? host: wendy ginsberg? guest: that is what a lot of members of congress are saying. it is a job. it has an eight-year time limit. does that mean you do not get to work for 30 years of a pension when another employee with? these are excellent debates that go on in congress. these are ideas that it bounced back and forth. are they getting paid too much for eight years of service? are they not getting paid for a really hard job they work for eight years? host: wendy ginsberg, thank you for your time this morning. tomorrow, we will be joined to talk about the minimum wage debate. then we will do a round table getting to the different perspectives on job creation, looking at president obama s proposal in the state of the union. in the last half hour tomorrow, we will be joined by the president of the national congress of american indians. he recently gave his state of the indian nations address. we will talk about issues concerning indian-americans in this country. thank you for being part of the program this morning. we will be back tomorrow morning at 7:00 eastern. now, live coverage to mount vernon where there is going to be a wreath laying ceremony starting shortly.
longo down in charlottesville. he was very upset. he was morose and he said shortly before noon today, some volunteer searches or rather professionals from the chesterfield were searching an abandoned property off old lynchburg road, it s a little more than ten miles away from tempo restaurant, which is the last place that hannah graham was seen alive exactly 35 days ago today. 35 days ago, is when she lost went missing on a saturday night. they say they did find human remains and that those searchers from the chesterfield, virginia sheriff s department who were part of what has been described as an unprecedented search have already made a very difficult phone call to hannah graham s parents. they are now awaiting the results of some forensic testing, but based on the tone just now from the authorities that we heard in charlottesville, they obviously think this is bad news for the entire graham family. it s very sad, as you pointed out, the people in charlottesville, and you got a sense for this being down there they really wanted to find her and they were hoping that they would find her okay and a testament to that is the fact that tomorrow at 9:00 a.m., 200 people had registered to search this walnut creek park which is not too far away and could actually possibly be where they found these human remains. so after 35 days, the search effort was strong. people wanted to find her. they wanted even any kind of clue that could suggest where she might be. but right now some professionals from the chesterfield sheriff s department did find in an abandoned building human remains and it seems like it might be bad news for hannah graham s family and everyone who loved her. peter, you can say again that this has certainly been an unprecedented search. they used unmanned drones. so far police have received more than 3300 tips connected to the hannah graham case. people have been really working tirelessly down there to search for the missing heather graham. let s bring in now rod wheeler. he s a form dc homicide detective and a fox news contributor. you covered this case as well. again, this body that we are reporting, not having confirmed it s the remains of hannah graham, but it was found in the walnut creek park, which is the location of the scheduled search for this student. what are your thoughts right now? reporter: there is a few things going on that s very important with regard to the investigation itself. first of all, as peter indicated, this area where they found the human remains is about 9 1/2 to ten miles from the tempo restaurants where the shopping mall is where she was last seen. so the viewers have an idea as to where this is exactly, it s off of route 29, which is a major highway that goes between charlottesville and this particular city, which is north garden, virginia. that s the actual city. one other thing that s very important. there is an elementary school, i m very familiar with this area there. there is an elementary school, red hill elementary school. most people are familiar with that school, very good school with a community, very nice community, right behind that school is the walnut creek park. that walnut creek park opened from obviously may and then it closes after the holiday, labor day. so it had just recently closed. but the police not only did they search that area once before, but the dogs, the police search dogs actually got what we call a hit on that area on the ground area there. i do have more information. i don t want to really share much of it right now cause it hasn t been confirmed. but the police dog found a hit. if you notice yesterday, police chief longo made a statement. he said we re going to start digging in certain areas. guess where the first area was. the same area not far from where the police dog found the hit. so that s what we have right now. they have recovered the human remains and what they re going to do is send them out obviously to the medical examiner to try to match up some dental records and things like that because over a period of about 30 to 35 days, the body really starts to decompose. they re going to have to try to verify that, who this person is they found before they actually say who it is. rod, at this point in the investigation, what about hannah graham s parents? has she been contacted have they been contacted to kept abreast of what is happening at this moment in real time? yes, they have. that s a good question. my police source, which is right there in charlottesville, told me the parents were contacted early this afternoon and they were told that it is a possibility that these human remains may be that of hannah graham. but the police did not confirm that because they would not know that at this point just from finding the remains. but they did enlighten them as to what they found and they are keeping in contact minute by minute with the family as they get more information. you know, rod, one question about jesse matthew, the suspect charged with the disappearance, with abduction, he was a cab driver. he knows the area because he was a taxi driver before he worked for the hospital. police say they had a forensic link to the disappearance in 2009 of managerren harrington morgan harrington. her body was found after 101 days. her body fou a hay field, also ten miles away from charlotte. could there be a connection? what does that tell you? how do police make the connection between these two and what are they doing with that now. reporter: that s very good observation. let me let you know and the viewers know that where the remains were found today is not far from where morgan harrington s body was found. and not only that, but the suspect in this case, matthew, has relatives that live in that area out there in charlottesville not far from where north garden, virginia is which is where the remains were found today. so i think what we ve to do here is connect the dots. but i can tell you firsthand, matthew is very, very familiar. and i don t want to convict the guy yet. but he s very familiar with this area. he has relatives in that area. and route 29 is a major roadway that he and everybody else traveled. are you surprised, rod, that this investigation, this search didn t start here? reporter: well, they had searched that area before. they had search teams that went through the park a while back. when i was there in charlottesville a few weeks ago. that one of the areas that they were searching. what really gave them the nod i any now, i believe, was the search dogs. see, with search dogs, you have to be careful cause sometimes they get what we call a hit and sometimes they don t. it s a false positive. but they took the dog back a second time and got another hit. and again, there is a little bit more information. i don t want it share yet cause it am hasn t come out. but i think based on that, coupled with the fact that someone perhaps gave the police department information that they may find a body there, i think that was the thrust, if you will, that enabled the police department to go back today and really start digging. i see. rod, stand by for us. we want to bring in we re going to bring in dr. baden to talk about the condition of the body. we re not sure this is the body of hannah graham, but she has been missing since september 13, a month and a week here. you talk about the police dogs, the false positive and going back in because of course they have to be very, very specific and confident. what now happens in this investigation? you re right. thank you. dr. baden, you re there? yes. hi, this is arthel neville here. i wanted to ask you, sir, these human remains, we re not sure if it s those of hannah graham, but seeing that hannah graham has been missing since september 13, if this were to be her remains, what would the condition of the body be at this point? the bodymk dental records to the teeth that will still be in excellent condition after 35 days. and they may want to check the dna. in the old days, dental match was good enough. now they want to be triply sure. she ll be readily identifiable. the cause of death would be important obviously. and if she had any kind of stab wound or blunt instrument injury or gunshot wound, for example, they would be readily identifiable immediately. dr. baden if she was strangled, it would be more difficult. dr. baden, you talk about the identification of a body in these cases. what about trying to find of the of the killer, jesse matthew, accused as it stands now. they obviously is dna from him cause they say there is that forensic link with a previous co-ed who was murdered in 2009. right. what do they coo? what do they look for? can you explain the next step? that would have to wait til the medical examiner does their investigation. sometimes they can find the problem with foreign dna here is according to the suspect, he admits being with her. being with her can get consentual can get dna. they would do a rape kit certainly it find out if his dna is there. the issue would be everything was consentual and she went away. but that would take detective work to show that he s the last person with her. the stomach contents would be important. if they can figure out what she last ate when she was seen that night in a couple of places and if the food is still some of that food is still present in the stomach, that means that the person with her, which is the suspect in this case, would be the only one who had the time to meet up with her and that she would have died in his presence. how do they make that case? they have the videotapes, the last one shows her kind of running by a gas station or the tapes of the bar downtown charlottesville after 1:00 a.m. that apparently show the suspect accompanying her. then what if he says, well, i don t know. she left and i didn t have anything have anything to do with it. what do police have to do? can they, without any witnesses, put it step by step to potentially have this prosecution as a murder case against him? well, partly the circumstances you described. last one seen with her, he denies t. he runs away. he s had similar problems with other women in the past who lived and died. but if she had eaten something with him or just she went into his car, for example, and that food is still in the stomach, that means that she died very soon after she met him and part of the issue would be whether there was a sexual assault and they have to prove that it s a homicide to see whether or not she was strangled. be the neck muscles have hemorrhage in them, marks on the neck, because that s going to be important no matter what to say well, maybe she just wandered off and collapsed and died of natural causes. they have to show that it was a violent cause of death. in these situations, strangulation that s most commonly employed and that should leave neck marks and the best thing is that they have an airtight case and say look, she got into his car. she was never seen alive again. and he ran away. they re not there yet. again, we re reporting human remains found, although not yet identified by authorities as the remains of hannah graham. i think that perhaps sometimes they wait for the dna. but the medical examiner will probably have to make some decision of that tomorrow. all right. dr. baden, thank you so much. good to talk to you. we ll keep you posted on whether or not the remains of those are that of missing uva student hannah graham. we ll keep you posted. in the meantime, we have this for you. texas governor rick perry, the latest officials calling for a travel ban from west africa as we wait for the cdc to issue new guidelines for health care workers to better protect themselves so more people don t become infected. the cruise ship magic is being monitored for possible sign of ebola and heading back to port in galveston, texas. this is after mexican authorities refused to let it dock. one of the passengers who handled thomas duncan s blood vials in dallas, along with her husband, are in isolation. the passenger works at dallas health presbyterian hospital where duncan died, but so far after 19 days, authorities say she s showing no signs of ebola. four people are now being treated for ebola on u.s. soil, including two of the nurses who cared for duncan. nina pham, who is in fair condition at the national institutes of health in maryland and amber vinson, who is in stable condition at emory hospital in atlanta. let s bring in alicia acuna, outside the hospital in dallas with more. reporter: hi. we re still waiting for those cdc guidelines that they re going to update. we heard it was going to happen today. we re still waiting for that from the centers for disease control. this is with regard to the personal protective equipment that nurses should wear when they are treating someone who is infected with ebola. this comes after the cdc heard from health care workers on how inconsistent the specifics were when nurse pham and her colleague amber vinson worked to care for duncan. at last report, she was in fair condition. vinson is at the unit at emory university hospital. the cdc says vinson may have been symptomatic for ebola when she flew on flights to and from cleveland before checking into the hospital. the patient who she contracted the virus from died on october 8. duncan was remembered today in a service by family and friends in north carolina. he leaves hyped his mother, who was in attendance, not there, his fiance and her three children. louise and her sons are expected to be released from quarantine tomorrow. she says someone from the hospital recently called her and in a statement she says the purpose of this call was to apologize to me for the death of my fiance, thomas eric duncan, and express regret that the hospital was not able to save his life. this official said the hospital was deeply sorry for the way this tragedy played out. i m sure she was surprised by the phone call as well. certainly not expecting that this would happen at this point in the game. so her response was one of gratitude. reporter: the ripple effect from duncan s death does continue. a technician who handled some of his lab work is on a carnival cruise ship that you mentioned. he s not showing signs of symptoms, but has quarantined himself to a cabin. and according to carnival, they will be returning to galveston, texas tomorrow morning. arthel? okay. thank you very much for that update. battle against eye circumstances they reportedly been suffering heavy casualties in the fight for kobani. that battle rages on. the u.s.-led coalition has been launching new air strikes in support of the kurdish forces who have been bravely battling back against the forces on the ground in kobani. now they re getting the upper hand in the fight to keep this strategic town on the border from falling under isis control. greg palkot is near the turkish-syrian border. reporter: the latest word that we are getting is that there has been more air strikes in the last 24 hours throughout the region, including against the terrorists in the syrian border town of kobani why the fighting goes on. where we are getting from our contacts is there have been three in the center of town between the terrorists and kurdish. they have claims that isis has been driven out. sources tell thaws 20% of the place is in the hands of isis. amid new word tonight the terrorists could be readying yet another offensive. as we watched all week, u.s. air strikes continued. one contact telling us that one targeted isis right where the two sides were fighting. began a sign of a close coordination between the united states and very brave kurdish fighters in that town. the reports of isis shells landing on the turkey side of the border and a turkish tank firing back. no confirmation where those shells hit. turkey has been reluctant to get into this fight. the latest wave of u.s. air strikes also hitting other locations inside syria, as well as in iraq. a clear sign that isis is threatening on several fronts. eric? 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tammy ruse is a fox news contributor and our other guest. is it better to have bubba than obama? look, clearly yes. i worked a bit on the 1992 clinton campaign and his effect in retail extraordinary. now, what this also tells you though, is you think with hillary being the supposed nominee, or at least the one most discussed, you would think that she should be able to have the same kind of impact or that she would be wanted. i think it s telling that she is not the one doing this, that they re still relying on bill clinton. but it also speaks to the fact that he is kind of separated from the negatives i think a both president obama and hillary clinton have at this point that bill clinton doesn t have. she went off to colorado. they had that big, you know, steak fry at tom harkins place, how come she s not there? i think she s picking her racing carefully. she s going to be tagged with the winners and losers in this race and i think there is a clear separation so as not to have that being the talking point going into her decision to whether or not she runs in 2016. did she help or did she hurt candidates? i think it s probably strategic, but i think tammy is absolutely right. bill clinton has this rare quality to translate very complex policies to the average person and with all of president obama s oratory skills, i don t actually see his ability to do that over the last two years o clock let alone in the midterm elections this year. so he s still bill clinton is the standard bearer of the democratic party. the standard bearer of the democratic party is trying to help mark pryor, the incumbent democrat, he s been trailing in polls against tom cotton. let me read you a piece from about bloomberg news. bill clinton in bubba land. arkansas pretty much surrendered to bill clinton. even many of the democrats can t stand obama. if bill can pull it off for pryor, the logic goes, it s dry run for his magical powers for hillary in 16. so tammy, what about those magical powers and if he does pull it off for pryor, does that mean he s got them and if pryor loses, does the former president lose his magical powers? well, look, even six years ago the magical powers should have been even stronger and they weren t even able to help his own wife. so you ve got a problem here. the jensen sus is that pryor had done a lot of damage in a tuesday debate, that bill clinton is not really going to be able to help. real clear politics average now has the republicans picking up eight senate seats. so this is a very difficult time. bill clinton seems to be their hail mary pass. but remember, if he wasn t able to make a difference in 2008, i think you re looking at less of an ability to make an impact right now and especially for someone in that kind of position, not even in his home state. that s how desperate the democrats are and how much in trouble they are. finally, he s got those magical powers in 2012 at the convention. really pushing the president. remember that speech? great speech. 2008, big boomerang, especially in south carolina that really hurt hillary. does he still have those powers and what will happen? i think if you compare him to obama in that sense, i definitely think he has the power. i think the obama coalition that was fantastic for him in 2008, what it really did not do is translate to other candidates. the one thing that i think the clintons do very, very well is harden the party structure and bring out a lot of folks who probably were a little disenfranchised and disaffected over the last few years. so i think he has a bit of a magic touch and i m hoping that even i think it s too late. i don t know. look, even the sorry, basil. even the democrats are pulling out of ken condition. but bill clinton still going there. so we ll see. is arkansas today. you know with a that means? that means thank you. eric, we re covering the breaking news on the hannah graham case. what investigators found today and where the case goes next. fox news alert. the latest on those developments. investigation of a in a graham, the student macing for more than a month. police late this afternoon said they found human remains, but they are not confirming that they do belong to miss graham. she the university of virginia sophomore who has been missing now for 35 days. those remains are being sent to richmond, the state s capitol, for forensic testing. graham disappeared a little more than a months ago in charlottesville. the suspect in her tis appearance, jesse matthew, junior. he s been charged with abduction with intent to defile. graham hasn t been seen since the night in charlottesville when she was seen on surveillance camera tape with the suspect following her. her disappearance prompted massive searches involving more than 1200 volunteers. it s included emotional appeals from both law enforcement officials and her heart broken parents, john and sue. we want to get back to our other top story, president obama has his point man to handle the ebola crisis. ran klain is in charge of the response to the virus. but his expertise is not infectious disease. he is a former chief of staff to vice president joe biden. so why did the white house choose him? joining me now, fox news contributor, pat goodell. good to see you. good to see you. and i know that you know mr. klain personally. so i want to start with this. how would you describe ron klain s characters and capability as a leader? first of all let me say i helped with the joe biden campaign in 1997. he was very, very smart and very enthusiastic. over the years he has become pretty much a political operative. a major one in the democratic party for debates and messaging. i have no idea why they chose him for this job except for one reason. the white house is concerned about politics and political image and not having a czar to actually do something. ron klain for all of his abilities has never run anything. this is ridiculous. it s about as ridiculous as my being named ebola czar. my problem with ron is he s become so partisan and in florida when he was vice president gore s chief of staff and was inducting the on the recount fighting on the recount issue, he was out there every day spinning, obfuscating. on the one hand saying he wanted voters, every vote counted, and then they tried to restrict military ballots. his whole role has been very partisan, very political. and it is about spinning a message. he said no the new york times he felt his job was messaging. he has no qualifications for this job. so if his job this time around is messaging, what is that message? it is to as you know, there is so much growing criticism of the cdc and government s handling of the ebola cases in the u.s., anything from hospital preparedness to training and protection for the health workers. does putting ron in charge of the response to ebola ease americans concern that the u.s. is not prepared to handle just a few cases of ebola? it should leave people even more concerned because he s report to go susan rice and to the other lady in the white house. he s not the czar. he s not running anything. the problem with the cdc, the problem is having someone likely had during the gulf spill, you know, the bp spill where the coast guard admiral went in, he knew what he was doing. he effectively dealt with it and reassured people, got it done. that s what we need here. the country is quite concerned about this. but it tells me that the white house again is probably it thinks its problem is image and messaging and the election. i ve got news for them, this could blow up. he is not naming him a czar is just a pure pr move to have somebody out there trying to as i said, spin the american people and they re going to be spun on this. well, you know just a short time from now we ve got the midterm elections. do you think the voters will speak out on this particular choice at the ballot? i don t think it s about this thank choice. i think the entire handling of ebola. look, if the president knows how serious it is, it s the only thing he s ever canceled fundraising trips for to come back and do his job, he didn t do it when we had the beheadings. we didn t he didn t do it in the malaysian aircraft. he didn t do it when the embassy had to be abandoned. the problem here is politically, this could be the straw that broke the camel s back, if you will. i have to go, but let me adhere, wouldn t you think the president really weighed the political possible political damage involved here? i can t figure out how they ve been doing their politics for the last several months. i think you have a very junior, all political operative staff that knows nothing about actually operating a white house in and this president has paid a heavy price and as i said, i think this after the secret service debauchle, the va, all of this, and much less isis. this could be the straw that breaks the camel s back on election day. pat, as you know, the white house is saying that mr. klain has strong management credentials and extensive federal experience overseeing complex operations. i do have to leave it there. i appreciate your time. thank you. he s been on the run for more than a month. now a possible big break, possible new sighting of eric frien, the triple shooting suspect. this happening in the woods near a casino golf course in pennsylvania within the last few hours. police say a man who was spotted in the pocono mountains last night is also believed to be frien. frien is the suspect in last month s deadly ambush at a police barracks in pennsylvania that killed one trooper, severely wounded another. bryan llennas has the latest. that 37-day search is heating up thanks to those two possible sightings of frien over the last 24 hours. staffers in mount pocono tell fox search teams are searching near the golf course after a possible sighting near the second hole. this is within a few miles of swift water where a sighting occurred last night. a woman was walking along the road when she came within 15 to 50 feet of a man who was likely frien. he was dressed in black, carrying a rifle and had mud on his face. it happened near pocono mountain east high school. the school frien attended. the pennsylvania governor reiterated today they will not rest until he is found. the search has already cost several million dollars. police are hopeful that changing weather will work in their favor. the worst the weather is for him, the better it is for us. we believe that as the leaves off trees, technology kicks in quite a bit more. aircraft become much more effective. reporter: frien is described as a self-taught survivalist, someone who dislikes police officers. so far police have found abandoned weapons and ak 47, pipe bombs of a trip wires and abandoned camp site and even handwritten notes describing the night frien allegedly shot two pennsylvania state troopers, killing corporal brian dixon and wounding trooper douglas. douglas was released from the hospital on thursday. homeowners have reported finding blood on two porches. it s unclear if it s frien s. police are awaiting lab results. behavioral scientists are telling police they believe frien could strike again if he gets a chance. there is $175,000 reward for any information leading to his capture. eric? hopefully they re really closing in, they can finally get him. thanks so much. the u.s. stock market taking investors on a wild ride this week. so what s around the corner and exactly what does this all mean for your bottom line? we ll report on that after the break a party? hi. i m new ensure active clear protein drink. clear huh? my nutritional standards are high. i m not juice or fancy water. i ve got 8 grams of protein. twist my lid! that s three times more than me. 17 vitamins and minerals. and zero fat! hmmmm. you bring a lot to the party! yay! new ensure active clear protein. 8 grams protein. zero fat. 17 vitamins and minerals. in delicious blueberry pomegranate and mixed fruit. because i make the best chicken noodle soup because i make the best chicken noodle soup because i make the best chicken noodle soup for every way you make chicken noodle soup, make it delicious with swanson® so how do you like that bungee cord they call wall street? the dow surging by hundreds of points one day, look at that. only to plummet back down by the next. 330 points. then up, then down. then up. then down. then they say this is the way it s going to be. founder of harrington capital management joins us. i have to tell you, you re either saying throw it up or going like this because you don t want to see are we going to have these 200 point spreads from now on? it seems as if the market needs a therapist, right? these swings are very intense, right? so i think actually, it continues. i ll tell you why. this past week in terms of the dow jones from the high to the low was the most highest swings in three years. people can say, well, that has a lot to do with the middle east. it has a lot to do with the jobs reports that aren t as strong as we d like. it has something to do with the fact that the chinese economy is hinting that it is slowing a bit. the retail sales number domestically, in the u.s., that number did not help the situation. but what is even more interesting, eric, is that this next week in october, 20% of the s & p 500 companies are going to be reporting earnings. now, the market moves a lot based on earnings. so if we see missed estimates, whether it be revenues or the earnings number, i think you re going to see october continue to be extremely volatile. we don t like octobers. they got a history on wall street. what do you think will happen with the s & p? it was suffering with a while and then suddenly it went up and that s where you can do pretty well. what do you think will happen with the earnings and how that will affect the dow? it s a great question. i happen to think that earnings are going to come in a lot lighter than people think. i don t think i think the estimates i think there is going to be a softening for the remainder of october. you brought up an interesting points. when you look at the calendar, it is always a fact that october is the highest volatile month in terms of swings within the dow and the s & p. but when you look at what s going on in the world, the volatility is increased dramatically and i think for the remainder of october, i think that the earnings estimates are going to come in lighter. it is all eyes on the s & p 500 companies going to be reporting in the next two weeks and if that doesn t work out as planned, i think we can see a dow jones you saw the dow jones touched 16,000, eric. i think we could dip below that in the coming weeks. they say all those brainiacs. it s a buying opportunities. is that true? what s going to happen in january when 401(k) money starts pouring back in? i think there are buying opportunities. there is president obama doubt about it. you have to be sector specific and stock specific when you re looking at these buying opportunities. that s where i think a professional money manager comes in very well in terms of identifying those opportunities. but on the whole, i think that you don t want to pour all your money in as this dip happens, but averaging in in terms of when you re buying into the market, that is something that i think would be very helpful as this market dips a bit. all right. thank you. i m going to try darts. do one on a dart and we ll get back in six months and see how the stock does. much more fun, darts. the market needs a therapist. we move on. much more than a line from shakespeare, it s canine soldiers on the battlefield fighting alongside our american heros. their story is out in a new book and we re going to talk to the author about it, coming up next. there is nothing like the relationship between a man and his dog, especially if that man is a soldier and his dog is a faithful companion on the battlefield. dogs have been active members of the military since world war ii and are a huge advantage against the ied or improvised explosive device. there is a new book telling the story of these fearless animals war dogs, tales of canine heroics, history and love the author rebecca frankle is here now. good to see you. thank you for having me. absolutely. first i want you to start out and talk more about the intensity and the importance of the relationship between the war dogs and their handlers. yeah. i think it s a very important part of the work they do. i think anyone who loves dogs, we all think that we have a special relationship with our animals. of course, we certainly do. but when you re doing the intense work that they re doing, when you re responsible for people s lives, it becomes ever more important. i believe i read in part of your book you said how it s helpful the war dogs being on the battlefield helps with ptsd later. yes. tell me about that. sure. i think a lot of handlers who have come back through war, and i talked to handlers from vietnam, from iraq and afghanistan, and they all said that they were able to sort of preserve a part of themselves a little bit more differently than the soldiers they went to war with who weren t handlers. i think of course, it s part of the way dogs relate to people. they sort of have this sixth sense, this ability to detect sadness and offer companionship. it provides them a little bit of added protection. it provides them a source of comfort and relief and i ve had stories where after a long day, after losses of life, that some soldiers have just broken down and they didn t break down to another soldier. they were able to break down and it was the dog s company they sought from. tell me about your personal affection for an experience with war dogs. oh, well, not all war dogs are as friendly as you would expect a friend dog to be perhaps and they re very pretechtive of their handlers. not every dog was as willing to be as friendly as maybe i wanted them to be. certainly there are a few that when they re not working, they re just friendsly, lovable dogs. i got to do some predeployment training at ypg in houma, arizona. the marine corps run has three week training course. i spent two weeks of it with them watching them do tactical daytime drills and nighttime drills, too. and you see what they go in preparing themselves to go into combat and it s a lot of long hours and it s a lot of training and there is time to relax and have fun and hang out. but a lot of it is looking for explosives, looking for bombs, preparing themselves mentally for what they re going to face when they go overseas, and it s a long road, but i m glad and grateful they have that time to prepare. certainly incredible creatures, no doubt. wrapping up here, just what what s the take away from your book? i think right now particularly where we are with the military and with our involveme again in iraq at the moment and even as we re drawing down troops in afghanistan, we re going to keep a large contingent of soldier there is and it s important to remember how useful and how significant the contribution is that the dogs are making and that even as we draw down our troops, we want to keep our dogs with them for as long as possible. we want to let everybody know we ve seen those soldiers as well and they have dogs, too. thank you so much. thank you. wow. they re heros. they really are. god bless them. yes. that s going to do it for us. i m eric shaun. i m arthel neville.rp. julie banderas is up next by the top minds in brain science. find more real possibilities at aarp.org/possibilities. fox urgent police announcing a short time ago human remains were found during the search for missing uva student, hannah graham. good evening, everyone. i m julie banderas. this is the fox report. just a short time ago, police in virginia revealing a search team has found human remains that might be those of the 18-year-old college sophomore. hannah vanished on september 13 in charlottesville, virginia. a suspect in custody. the discovery was made in a public park just miles outside of charlottesville, virginia. police are now asking anyone familiar with the area for help. it is important to note the remains have not been identified. though hannah s parents have be
that isis militants are flight stolen fighter jets. according to the british based observatory for human rights can iraqi pilots who detected to the terror group are chaining their fellow isis fighters to fly. these are russian made migs. witnesses say they ve seen them booming overhead in syria, not far from that border with turkey. this would mark the first time the islamic state has taken to the skies. today we asked officials at the pentagon about the report. and here s the response, and i quote: based on the information we have, we are not aware of, they say isil islamic state fighters conducting any operation, flight operations, over syria or anywhere else. not aware based on information we have. so, that s not really a denial but it is what it is. president obama has long said he will not commit combat troops to the ground. now the question is, what happens if isis takes the fight to the skies? i would guess we would shoot them out of the skies. lea gabrielle some know. a former fighter pilot. seems like a good guess, shep. according to reuters, the human rights group is saying that the islamic state group is training pilots using three jets. we have a map to show you. these are reportedly these flights are taking place near a captured syrian air base, 45 miles south of turkey. the report the planes appear to be mig 21s or 23s. it can be used for bombing and air-to-air missions in the 1960s and and 70s it was considered state-of-the-art back then but is limited in its range and ability to care missiles or bombs. the mig 23 is improved and is the first of its kind to shoot down other planes using radar before pilots could see them. a number of countries fly both 21s and 23s. they are fast but these are older jets and they re far, far infear you re to what the u.s. is flight and what our allies are flight. i mentioned you were a fighter pilot for the navy. i m guessing your colleagues are not all that concerned. no. i think they re probably chomping at the bit. and i spoke with one that is senior today, and he said, let me go flight. i d love to get a chance to shoot one of these down. it s every fighter pilot s dream to shoot down a guy in a mig. but in the mig 21 has a small radar cross-section so can be tricky to pick up on radar. but the quality of the jet comes down to quality of the pilot. the reportedly they re being trained by former iraqi air force officers, who flew under saddam hussein, and if you remember back in persian gulf one, within days we completely established air supremacy so that kind of speaks to the level of training, their capabilities. that being said, it s something i m sure we ll keep our eye on. even if it s not a big threat, it is a big development, that terrorists have their own jets. if it s true it s a big development and our u.s. military are keeping an eye on it. but listen here, air bases are great targets. for one thing, they re going to be surrounded by people who are watching those jets, which means that we are not going to have to worry about collateral damage if we go in and strike them, shep. good point. thank you. let s go to d.c. now and james gold, a former member of security council and is now the dean of the school of international service at american university. worked in the government a lot. good to see you. thank you. thank you. big development, big concern? what s your take on this? well, i agree with what you were just saying, that i mean, it s not a greating there to see these members of isis being able to have access to the migs, but a little tough for people who are just getting some training underway to go up against u.s. air force pilots who have years of extensive training and superior equipment. so i don t see this as a huge threat to the operation, and think it should be pretty easily dealt with, and again, the bigger problem for the operation is the limits to what airstrikes can accomplish. we have soon the disruption of isis forces. we ve seen people getting killed, but territory remains under their control, and that is not going to change unless we have partners on the ground who can do something about it. it your sense, as it is that of so many others, that our partners on the ground in many cases are just not up to the task yet? well, that is the problem. we don t really have reliable partners on the ground, and we should start first and foremost with the government of iraq. the biggest problem has been a government that has not been inclusive. you have illennated sunnis who are easily attractedded to isis, and until we have a government in iraq that is inclusive and can govern and doesn t send people fleeing to isis, and rather supports them, we re going to have a problem. isn t the government the bigger problem? we keep hearing there s no military solution over there, and by that they mean long-term. if you don t fix that government, and get something inclusive, some other place for them to go, that s when the bad guys turn to worse guys. isn t it? the big problem is, again, you have these individuals in iraq and feeling alienated from the government, attracted to isis. or thinking that might provide a better path for them, are easily recruited into the forces, and unless you have a viable alternative, and a government strong enough to attract people to its side, you re going to have increasing numbers of people joining this islamic state. and that seems to be the situation right now. james gold, good to see you. thank you. thank you, shep. in nigeria we re learning what could be a major development involving hundreds of kidnapped school girls by boca haram. may be the best news yet. the nigerian government official said today they have agreed to a cease fire with that terrorist group, boca haram, but say they re still negotiating an agreement to free the girls. you ll remember militants of boca haram said they kidnapped nearly 300 girls six months ago now from a school in the northeastern part of the country. dozens of kid reportedly escaped but 219 are still listed officially as missing. no agreement for their return just yet. so earlier reports from other outlets may have been a little ahead of the game. if we get new information we ll bring it to you. president obama naming a point person to oversee the fight against ebola, that and the hospital room video of a nurse who got infected. and the protests heat up in hong kong. reportedly fierce fights between police and protesters. that s ahead. from the fox news deck this friday afternoon. so i can reach ally bank 24/7, but there are no branches? 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we had a news conference earlier today with an update. there could be more updates later today on her status. they said they had her for 12 hours and have done a full medical evaluation and feel she s doing okay. she is not deteriorating. i cannot tell you why we have said fair because the patient confidentiality but she is quite stable now and resting comfortably. one of the issues she emphasizees this morning is that it was extremely draining and taxing for nurse nina pham to make the ride to the area and then tike the ride to the nih. she found is extremely fatiguing. she was then transferred to a special isolation unit here at the nih, and while there s no discussion that the rye russ is no indication that the virus is airborne, the doctor said everybody who is treating her is wearing protective gear from head to toe. there s no evidence whatsoever that this virus is airborne transmitted. everything we know is that direct contact with bodily fluids. they ve got a team of 20 people who are treating nina pham and to try to cut down on any errors that could result in exposure, they re limiting how much time they re spending there in that special isolation unit, shep. catherine, doctors explained to us all this is a very difficult virus to contract. yet they re watching a number of people who have become ill, including one in washington. right. there s a bizarre and concerning episode that took place earlier today in the pentagon parking lot. on the other side of the river in washington, dc. a woman who described herself as a defense department contractor, boarded one of the shuttle buses to take people from the pentagon over the river to the marine barracks. when she got on the bus she felt ill, got off, and threw up and a defense official tells fox news she volunteered she had been in liberia two weeks ago. at this hour we re trying to work out what happened to the woman and the individuals who were on the bus, and whether they re in any kind of quarintine or whether they have been released. but given the circumstances and where she has traveled, it is being investigated, shep. all right. that s good. catherine herridge, thank you very much. health professionals tell us there is no reason for concern among anyone in the general population even mention if you have a child with sniffles or elderly person in your family who has suddenly gotten sick, it s not ebola, unless you have been contacted bay medical professional to warn you that you have been in the presence of one of the two people in america who have ebola. there is absolutely nothing to fare. in hong tong, police went head-to-head with prodemocracy demonstrators as violence on the streets north carolina up yet again. police used pepper spray and batons to push back large crowds. cops were reportedly trying to clear out an area that activists have occupied since the protest started three weeks ago. here s a live look at that area. protesters are demanding more freedom to select their own candidate to lead hong kong, and less control from mainland china s communist government. a teenager is taking her school district to court after she got an f on a test. her teacher claims the student had a cheat sheet, about the student s lawyer says nobody can prove she actually cheated. so does she have a case? 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[laughter] eh. now s the time to get in the loop. just look for our fall tv picks with xfinity on demand. huh. quickly find the season s hottest shows, huh. quickly find the season s hottest shows, with a handpicked collection all in one place. only from xfinity. six researchers are spending eight months in hawai i, living as if they re the very first colonists on mars. nasa reports it s the longest simulation of its kind on u.s. soil and here is where it s happening. they doing this on the slopes of manalo would. this is the big island and that s manalo would, and it s big. one of the most active volcanos on earth. the researchers are staying in this giant dome. here s one of the researchers in a space suit. and that is see down here, that s the dome down there on the right. and a better look at that dome now. it s just inside the nasa reports it s part of a study to see imhumans can handle long periods of isolation in a tight space. pictures are reminiscent of mon walks. officials tell us that team members are completely cut off from the outside world. e-mails are delayed 40 minutes to simulate the lag time between earth and mars. nasa officials say they believe a manned mission to mars could be possible by the 2030 if they can find any money. that does cost money. a high school student in washington state is suing her school district after she got an f on a chemistry test. the teen goes to lindbergh high school just south of seattle. according to the student s attorney a science teacher claimed to have found a cheat sheet in the girl s bag and says she could have easily look at it during the test. so the teacher gave her an f, and the school gave her detention. but the lawyer says the teacher never actually saw the student cheat. the school board eventually did drop the punishment, detention but kept the failing grade. the teen s lawyer says the family does not want any money at all. they just want officials to remove the f from her transcript. because they say it could hurt her chances of getting into a good college. school officials, in the district there, say they re cooperating with the investigation. fox news legal analyst mercedes joins us. just depends on what cheating is, like the definition of is. if you have a cheat sheet, it could also be i like to write things down, makes me remember them. sometime when to there are a number of facts i need i ll scrip scribble them dune. that s what happened here, and it s funny. the school district is playing fast and loose though law says you can challenge a discipline of a student but you can t challenge the grade. but here the grade is the discipline. so, the fact they dropped the detection, the school board is like, we dropped the disciplinary part, but really? the f is the disciplinary part to this student because it was, quote, in conjunction. there s no prove it to and typically the school boards have a minihearing in order to determine whether or not someone should be penalized. so they talk to the student and the teacher, but the attorney is right, there s no definitive proof this student actually took those notes out of her pencil bag. would it be pro cheated if her teacher saw her holing the cheat sheet? undoubtedly, or even sliding down but there wasn t anything like that. nothing like that. now the family and the girl are saying she got a b in the class, which at my house would have been a wonderful thing. at her hour not at my house. i d get a whooping for that. wouldn t be able to sit often. the claim in her house is she s a really good student and that b is going to hurt her. i think they re playing it s pretty much too emotional. this is ridiculous. get a b, it s fine. but the attorney is very adamant about it. this child doesn t have a disciplinary record, gets a lot of a s, and some college is going to say you got that b in chemistry. i always thought there was a way you handle things like this and that the last line of defense, the supreme court of this matter, what the district ruling. apparently younging take that s into legal accurate and get wapner involved here? unbelievable. an actual law that says that in washington state you can bring a suit in court. i don t know any of jurisdiction that has it. i shouldn t have said wapner. should have said hot bench. i have a friend on that show. happy friday. the week that wouldn t end. i feel that way. it will in a little while. what do you think? tweet us at shep news team oar post on our facebook page. our twitter handle is @shep news team. the teaching job teams to be a lot cushier in another country where officials offered beamers and other luxury cars. i think they mean bmw. why not mercedes. this happened in saudi arabia. the arab news reports, officials say bmws should be a good incentive for teachers to do a better job. the newspaper reports those outstanding teachers are also eligible for cash rewards up to $32,000. but this could be a much better deal for men because in saudi arabia, women can own cars but women cannot drive cars. our friends, the saudis. i don t know where to begin with that. white house officials say islamic state militants are creating even more targets for airstrikes. where exactly? we ll get answers and talk to fox news sunday s chris wallace who joins us from washington, and after months and months of credit and debit card surety breeches we say all you need is a chip but the banks won t do it. well, news for you. the white house pushing banks and stores to make those cards without the magnetic strips or at least in addition have the chips. fox business network s jerri willis will drop by because it s friday. headlines from across america. in florida a man is convicted of murder for shooting a teenage teenager overloads music. the was given no chance for parole and is sentenced to life in prison. two years ago in jacksonville he shot the blow. prosecutors say he did not call 9-1-1 and instead went back to his hotel and walked his dog. california. small plane crashes the the mountains east of l.a. yesterday but investigators say all three people onboard survived. possibly with broken bones. no word on what caused the crash. and colorado, hershey settle with a company that made pot can by bars that looked like almond joy. the company stopped selling the stuff and will have to re-call or destroy all the knockoffs. if by destroy, you mean the islamic state is creating more targets for u.s. and coalition airstrikes by gathering reinforcements around the syrian city of kobani. that s new today according to the white house. when they see clusters of fighters or see depots or materiale or supplies that are critical to the cities of the fighters, it s easier to take them out. you have seen a stepped can up operational tempo in and around kobani. well, officials with the kurd say they re sharing information with u.s.-led coalition to help direct bombing against isis targets in that area. take a look at our wall over here, kobani itself is right on turkey s border but the country s military has not joined the fight for the city. president obama met with military leaders or countries, including turkey, for a coordination sentence. chris wallace is with us. a coordination session? how did that go? well, we know that the president met with the defense ministers of a number of the countries, about three dozen countries, and it continues. we have about, what, eight countries that are bombing in iraq and syria. there are strengths and obvious weaknesses. the biggest weakness is we don t have a viable ground partner at install syria, and not much of one either in iraq, because both the iraqi army and the kurdish peshmerga lack equipment, lack training, and we have done precious little to get them in any kind of fighting shape. we discussed this repeatedly, that the most important part of this is getting a government in iraq that is on some level exclusive. i won clues inclusive. is that happening. they still do not have a defense or interior minister that the sunnis have bought into. that s over a month. there are a lot of these things that haven t progressed. we talked about the u.s. forces training the iraqi forces. that hasn t happened yet. or the kurdish, hasn t really happened yet. we have not re-equipped them. a week ago the vast majority of the kurdish peshmerga, their army, did not have helmets. not much of a fighting force without helmets, and continues on in syria, a real lack of a coalition there because of the fact that the turks, right across the border, literally, as we have seen from greg palkot s reports, they can look over at the bombing and fighting in kobani and don t cross the boarder to try to help the kurdish militias there fighting isis. so a real vacuum on the ground. the fight on in kobani, but in iraq we have been watching over the last few days it looks like isis is eating up more and more territory and flags are going up in town after town. that s right. when they re fighting in the infamous town of abu ghraib withinsite sight of iraqi international airport, you re in in the western suburbs of baghdad. people talk about kobani and it s strategic importance but that would be a problem if you lost that. if you begin to lose the capital of iraq, baghdad, that s a catastrophe, and we are not to say they re about to enter baghdad but they are on the outskirts. they re within eight or ten miles of baghdad, and of course, with that vantage point they re able to come in and you have seen kinds of suicide bombings, taken out hundreds of shia forces. so it s a very dangerous situation, even in the capital city. you have been watching the rebels? i got to say, i m all in on mississippi state. i love the fact zack prescott. i can t wait for the egg bowl. you have to tell the people what it is. it s your saturday viewing after thanksgiving, and it s mississippi state and ole miss this year. i m not here to rag on mississippi state. they re doing great, too but we ll settle that then. this weekend it s tennessee. state has a bye week. with i go home to oxford as i will in an hour and a half, people say what is with that chris wallace and why does he hate us? i do not hate mississippi. but come on, mississippi state, they have always been kind of the poor cousins, the stepchildren, and now they ve got the best team the number one team in the nation. they are. think about the idea that the egg bowl could be for national supremacy. never thought of that. while trying to sleep on tuesday and thursday and all days. this is very exciting. would you actually be there? what? would i be there? i m not missing this, chris. you don t miss when you re winning like this. you just don t. would you like to come? that would be exciting. the egg bowl. i will be watching that. you better. that s saturday, a tough ticket. chris, we ll be watching this weekend there s a question. katy perry. i did hang out with katy perry. she went in our football practice facility and was throwing the ball around with some pro football players and we hung out. she was very nice, as nice as she could be. i m glad she is a rebel and she picked well that morning. i m very happy for you, and i m told in the egg bowl i have to root for mississippi state. i have a cow bell in hi my office ex-we say, mississippi state, graze fog the grass, take the cow bells and tell me what it coming up on pox news sunday. i m glad i walked into that. we ll talk about ebola. we ll have the head of the infectious diseases in the national institutes of health and hear from two people who have questions about the government s response and that is tim murphy, who headed the congressional hearing, and michael osterhohm, on old picture or him an infectious disease expert, and we ll talk politics and we ll have this is information. dib be wasserman debbie wasserman the first joint appearance by the two of them this entire year and it will be on fox news sunday. i ll ask them where they stand on mississippi and mississippi state. will you have a rink or just duke it out on the set. that s may be an all-time low for me in asking questions. i may just say, have at and it just sit back. get your hate on. chris, thank you. we re playing tennessee this weekend. we re 17-point favorites. you can see it espn. hotty toddy. one of vice-president joe biden s sons says her is very sorry he was discharged from the navy after reportedly testing positive for cocaine. in a statement, hunter biden says, and i quote, it was the honor of my life to serve in the u.s. navy and i deeply regret and am embarrassed that my actions led to my administrative discharge. trace gallagher has the latest. how long was he in the navy reserves. not long. about nine months. he was commissioned in may of last year and discharged in february of this year. we re just now learning about it because the privacy act prevents the navy from issuing details, and the wall street journal just broke it. hunter biden, a lawyer by trade back to the navy as part of a special program that allows the military to tap civilians with needed skills. he didn t have to attend officer candidate school or reserve officers training, just an abbreviated training program and needed two special waivers to get in, one because of his age he was 43 at the time and another because he had a drug-related issue when he was a young man. the rest of biden s statement concerning his discharge reads, quote, i respect the navy s decision with the love and support of my family, i am moving forward. hunter biden is married with three children. did the vp say anything? not a word. vice-president s office declined to comment. of course, overbiden s oldest son, beau, spend a year in iraq. beau biden is the attorney joan and plans to run for governor. hunter biden is a managing partner at an investment firm and made news because he joined the board of a ukrainian gas production company run by a man with tie thursday to former ukrainian president and because his father was involved, as we know this diplomatic efforts with ukraine, it raised concerns about conflict of interest, but the vice-president s office says joe biden did not endorse any particular company. trace gallagher in los angeles, thank you. as nation we need do more to stop security breaches for credit and debit card users. the profound word from president obama. he is signing an executive order to tighten security for millions of americans who receive federal benefits, including social security. they now get benefits on debit cards with internal chips. that means no more magnetic strips to rely only they re phasing those out. of course the u.s. is very late to this game. the news comes after we have seen huge dat da breaches at retailers including home depot and target. those affect millions upon millions. they re talking about put a chip in the card which they have done for years in europe. we re late to the party. but there are beverages still available. finally we re there. you are correct. and this is a big deal, and people are really upset, worried, nervous about their financial security. because of this. so, let me tell you how serious this problem has been. more than 100 million americans have been in the position of having their personal data breached, and at stores like home depot, 5 some lots of folks have something of theirs, that they thought was private, being stolen by hackers. jerri, anything else for us? i have something else. i want to tell you that, look, at the end of the day, this situation is already being reviewed by retailers, by the end of 2015 we expect many of these home depot target, walgreens and wal-mart to have this in place. this will come to pass but that s not the end of the story. they call them hackers for a reason. they ll find a way around this, too would be my guess. hopefully they won t. apple pay starts monday, and that is going to be one of the solutions i think some people will try. i wonder if this one will catch on. didn t with google. very well me a. there have ban lot of peep behind them. they re working with lots and lots of banks. yep. jerri willis from the business network and the willis report which givens in an hour and 18 minutes. to find out where it is go to fox business.com slash channel finder and you can find her. as if cruise lines don t have enough trouble, one cruise ship passenger is under quarintine. a health worker whom officials say may have handled an ebola lab specimen. beaut we re told she is showing absolutely no symptoms of the virus. that means she is not contagious. she s in quarintine so there s no danger but that would be bad. a live report is next. 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reporter: obviously public health officials are interested in monitoring her but they say the chances of her having ebola are extremely low. that s because it was it s been 19 days since this lab supervisor may have handled s handled specimens from thomas duncan. the maximum incubation period for ebola is 21 days so it s highly unlikely this nurse and her husband, who have remained healthy until this late stage of the game, will get sick with bloom. nevertheless texas governor rick perry says public health officials need to err on the side of caution. listen. defies common sense from my perspective that one who has been in close proximity or have treated these patients, that they would go out and expose other people, possibly to this. they would travel out of state. that they would go on a cruise. governor perry says he has spoken with barack obama and is urging the president to place persons who may have had contact with ebola on the federal no-fly list to prevent them from travel until they re completely in the career. what about the nurse who is now at emory hospital there in atlanta? what s her situation? that nurse is amber vinson. she is being treated in the special isolation unit at emory university, one of only four like it in the country. meanwhile the cdc expanded the list of airline passengers they re notifying to include the october 10 outbound flight that vinson took to ohio in addition to the october 15 return flight. the agency says it can t rule out the possibility that vinson was experiencing minor symptoms when she set out on the trip to plan her wedding and as an added precaution, frontier airlines says it s notifying everyone who flew on that aircraft between the nurse s first flight and the time the plane was taken out of service for deep cleaning. that s 800 passengers in all but public health officials say the chances of amber vinson infecting anyone onboard the aircraft are extremely low. jonathan, at the cdc where they re operating in abundance of caution with the headline that no american has contracted this disease in the general population. bermuda? 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looking bad for them. $100 million damage in hurricane fabian in 2003, and now we have this storm here. a popup weather 8 behind me. that s the wrong storm. there s another storm going to hawai i. we have weather eight up here this is the one. this is what we have going. not impacting the u.s. except for rough seas so stay off the beaches across the area. we ll see this pull off to sea venally, bring rain across the uk. in the short term we have big problems in bermuda. the center of the storm, 30 miles wide, bermuda 15 miles in the middle of the ocean, at the center of the storm goes right over bermuda two or three hours from now. very rough one. rick, thank you very much. news continues with a final check of the markets today riling after this. bon foe from u2 has great shades, pink, blue, green. seems he has them in every color but they re not just a fashion statement. sarah is here from our team. not doing great. we always wondered why he wears the shade. he didn t always ware them. in the 80s, a young bon know, no glasses but it s been his trademark, even at the white house, talking to president bush he was wearing whether you blue shades but he has grabbing glaucoma. he says he is doing well. you guys tweeted us about the story on the girl who is said to have cheated in class and then got an f and has a lawsuit and hill yap has response lillian has responses. people agree she should not have gotten the f. i used to teach high school french. i if i suspected someone of cheatle i cooperate prove i d have a student retake a different version of the test. also, a straight a student, and knocks her down a peg, might be ropes to pursue. one says i have notes in my bag. doesn t mean she cheated. one says, hope the teacher reverses the grade. i don t know if you have been following the dow today. it s been a rough week. look at this. the dow is up 263 to close the day. what great thing on a friday. i would normally say when news breaks out we ll break in but trace gallagher will be breaking in because i have to get to oxford. have a great weekend. your world starts right now. fighting ebola. the president says a travel ban won t work. so why are so many countries doing it? welcome everyone. i m in for neil cavuto. this is your world. the world health organization declaring today the ebola outbreak is over. senegal is one of three african nations that closed its borders do to the ebola outbreak in all, 22 countries, including great britain, have instituted a travel ban or other restrictions. a fox news poll finding 60% of americans would support a travel ban from the affected countries. this guy dressed in a hazmat suit taking that message to the white house but so far the president s