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again from neighboring fort hood back in november of 2009 when he stormed into a soldier processing center wielding two happened guns. witnesses allege they heard him el al law akbar which is arabic for, god is great and they opened fire on our innocent soldiers. back to you. alisyn: do they think abdo was close to pulling this off? >> absolutely. authorities during a press conference yesterday had it not been for courageous and quick actions after local gun store employee who noticed what he described as abdo's strange behavior asking him i want to buy buy six pounds of smokeless gunpowder how do i use it? when he noticed red flags he notified authorities. because of that, authorities say this outcome was much different. alisyn: thank goodness for him and for alerting authorities. >> absolutely. alisyn: kris gutierrez, thanks for the update. we're also getting new details today on an epic story of survival.
according to people on the inside, mr. boehner is apparently meeting with mcconnell. they have spoken with mr. biden. they are talking about if at the very last minute, nothing is solved, short term deal. >> yeah. >> 30 days, could be 60 days. >> coming up later on the show, maybe we'll talk about this 14th amendment, too, and will the president have to pull that trigger? >> this story maybe hasn't gotten as much attention as it should have because of the whole debt ceiling discussion in the last couple of days but do you know there was another plot to attack fort hood allegedly by this member of the u.s. military right here. he is a muslim man named naser abdo. he went in to buy a bunch of ammunition. smokeless gunpowder and thanks to the employee who worked at this guns galore store in kilene, texas he was a retired police officer and didn't think something was right. he called authorities and helped to thwart this attack.
so you are used to having keen observations. what did you notice on that day? it was something from the very beginning, right? >> i think our first concern or what drew our attention to the young man was the fact that he arrived at the business in a commercial taxi. >> why was that odd to you? >> it just seemed out of place. we don't often have people come to the store in taxis. it wasn't a major issue at the moment. we just through the surveillance system at the store, we're able to see the taxi pull in for the lot, the driver got out. he was kind of milling around the vehicle and we just thought it kind of out of place. >> right, then you got the sense that he probably didn't know exactly what he was buying because he asked you for smokeless gunpowder. why would that be a red flag?
a soldier processing center wielding two happened guns. witnesses allege they heard him el al law akbar which is arabic for, god is great and they opened fire on our innocent soldiers. back to you. alisyn: do they think abdo was close to pulling this off? >> absolutely. authorities during a press conference yesterday had it not been for courageous and quick actions after local gun store employee who noticed what he described as abdo's strange behavior asking him i want to buy buy six pounds of smokeless gunpowder how do i use it? when he noticed red flags he notified authorities. because of that, authorities say this outcome was much different. alisyn: thank goodness for him and for alerting authorities. >> absolutely. alisyn: kris gutierrez, thanks for the update. we're also getting new details today on an epic story of survival. pilot michael trapp cheated death twice. first when his plan crashed
it was something from the very beginning, right? >> i think our first concern or what drew our attention to the young man was the fact that he arrived at the business in a commercial taxi. >> why was that odd to you? >> it just seemed out of place. we don't often have people come to the store in taxis. it wasn't a major issue at the moment. we just through the surveillance system at the store, we're able to see the taxi pull in for the lot, the driver got out. he was kind of milling around the vehicle and we just thought it kind of out of place. >> right, then you got the sense that he probably didn't know exactly what he was buying because he asked you for smokeless gunpowder. why would that be a red flag? >> well, the majority of people that reload their own ammunition
they have spoken with mr. biden. they are talking about if at the very last minute, nothing is solved, short term deal. >> yeah. >> 30 days, could be 60 days. >> coming up later on the show, maybe we'll talk about this 14th amendment, too, and will the president have to pull that trigger? >> this story maybe hasn't gotten as much attention as it should have because of the whole debt ceiling discussion in the last couple of days but do you know there was another plot to attack fort hood allegedly by this member of the u.s. military right here. he is a muslim man named naser abdo. he went in to buy a bunch of ammunition. smokeless gunpowder and thanks to the employee who worked at this guns galore store in kilene, texas he was a retired police officer and didn't think something was right. he called authorities and helped to thwart this attack. >> i called one of the lieutenants that i know and i
other, some of this smokeless gunpowder, a dead give away. he was already ready to go according to a counter terrorism official and bought the ammunition and gun powder from guns galore the same shot in killeen, texas, near ft. hood used by the ft. hood shooter. according to an antiterrorism enforcement protection report he bought three boxes of 12 gauge ammunition, six cannisters of smokeless gunpowder and a magazine for a springfield 9 millimeter gun and paid for the items in cash and drew attention to himself by taking a taxicab to theship. the owners called the police after he asked how to use smokeless gunpowder. >> the red flag was the question of the powder. if you don't know what it is, why are you buying so much? and i spoke with one of the lieutenants down there and expressed my concerns.
use smokeless gunpowder. >> the first red flag was the question about the powder. i mean, if you don't know what it is, why are you buying so much? >> video courtesies of middle east media research institute shows an interview abdo gave to al jazeera a year ago. jihadist materials were found in his possession about, and enough bomb-making materials we're fold for two bombs. he was already to go according to one counterterrorism source. >> we would probably be here today giving you a different briefing had he not been stopped. he's a very dangerous individual. and he's where he needs to be. >> abdo also visited abarmy surplus store where he tried to buy a uniform with local fort hood patches on it. police say that he was going to target military personnel. bret? >> bret: jennifer, on a separate issue, i understand the treasury department announced sanctions today against several individuals in iran, accused of aiding al-qaeda. >> that's right. the treasury sanctioned six
and smokeless gunpowder. he says he got suspicious when the soldier asked what's smokeless gunpowder? >> i think that was the first red flag was the question about the powder. i mean, if you don't know what it is, why are you buying so much? >> shepard: investigators say it turns out the soldier was awol from fort campbell in kentucky. bought a downform with a fort hood patch on it when they got to his motel room they found all the markings of a taste attack. jennifer griffin tracking late breaking developments at the pentagon. tell us what they found in his room, jennifer. >> authorities tell us that they found 18 pounds of sugar, a pressure cooker. a trigger, as well as that smokeless gunpowder that you mentioned. he had enough bomb-making material, i'm told, to make at least two bombs. he was, quote, already to go according to one law enforcement source. the bomb making materials and methodology were straight out of
planning another attack on fort hood is in custody in texas, and it appears local law enforcement may have averted a second disaster on the base. national security correspondent jennifer griffin has details. good evening, jennifer. >> good evening, bret. private first class naser abdo had gone awol, applied for and received conscientious objector status, but that status was put on hold when the army found child pornography on his government computer. he was arrested after trying to buy guns and gunpowder from guns galore. according to army sources, abdo bought three boxes of 12-gauge ammunition, a magazine for a springfield nine-millimeter gun, and six canisters of smokeless gunpowder. the gun store owner who tipped the police said he became suspicion when abdo asked how to