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truly. i've never been on a jury, though i've wanted to be. nobody ever lets me. >> not on my jury, right? >> i want to be. >> good luck now. >> is that what happens? they would really say maybe we need to think about it, they would try again? >> so you want to. here's the way it works. you've sat on that trial for a period of time. it was six weeks. you have to believe although the judge says don't deliberate yet, wait until all the evidence is in, reserve judgment. you have to believe as the evidence is being processed, you're formulating opinion, you have some sense of what you want to do and how you want to vote, and so you go into the room. there's a foreperson who's in charge of the jury, and you go around the room. that's the one time when it's verdict deliberation time where now we can speak, now we can engage. now we can discuss the facts and so you take the poll of the temperature of everyone around you, and i assume they didn't have to do that too much because ultimately the temperature was that he's guilty. they are being thereby rejecting completely the narrative of the

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our suspect here who's charged in this case declared a nine-mile radius around his house as the nation of new israel and that that was his sovereign nation. and you know, they sue everybody in court. they drive around, they don't recognize the dmv. don't you wish you could do that? they don't have plates on their cars. the police pull them over, but it's no game. we've had sovereign citizen members, you know, kill police officers in car stops. it's a growing disturbing movement. >> there you have it because, kyle, i'd say this guy sounds crazy but he's not alone, so obviously he's part of something that may be growing that lots of people have known about, and so why is michigan a hot bed of this? >> you know, it's interesting because we've seen a lot of these groups in michigan, and i have -- you know, i think that we see these groups in michigan right now, these growing gruoup

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fund affordable housing and mixed income housing, but what we can also do is pass laws that can help protect american families from, number one, being evicted from their homes but number two being able to keep rent at a cost that makes sense. a year ago during the campaign when i was really struggling with money, i got price out of my home and i was houseless for a month. i was couch surfing, and i'll tell you that that happened right after the rent hike freeze was taken away from the state of florida, literally in less than three weeks my rent went up over 30% and i didn't have a home for a month. and i remember thinking in that moment, well, you know, at least if i win i won't have this issue in a year. and a year later i still have the issue, just in washington, d.c. and it just shows that the system isn't built for people who don't already have the capital to move in places and i want to be clear to people at home, i realize for the next two years i'll be making the salary as a member of congress, and i'll probably be able the pay

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a prosecutor so just use that as a go by to methodically look at all the evidence and decide for himself which if any of these potential violations that they are going to pursue. >> molly, this report dropped late thursday night. it's more than 800 pages the timing of the release has been criticized. but do you think the american public can fully appreciate its breadth and substance without actually having to comb through 845 pages? >> well, i think we have to be careful when we think about what the american public -- what their response system because you'll remember when the january 6th hearings started there were a lot of pundit who is said, this is not going to move the needle. people aren't going to care. maybe they tuned in, but they're going forget about it, and even as late as october we heard pundits saying, voters don't care about democracy

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he tweeted, this ain't meant for people who don't already have the money. he'll be the youngest member of congress ever when he takes his seat next week frost confronting a very real issue hitting genz yourself and millions of families who worry about making the rent. joining me now, congressman-elect maxwell frost. congressman, jimmy mcmillan was right about the cost of rent that was 12 years ago. why is this still a major problem for americans? >> yeah, well, first off, thank you so much for having me on yeah, he was right then, and he's still right this is the drum that million of americans are beating across the country. this has to do with greed, with the system of our country that need to be fixed so that way working class people have a chance to be able to live in a home and what we're see is that we're having a crisis with, yes, affordable hsing near opportunity. you can findt point is for

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rest of america, braces for an indictment joining me now, former u.s. don't attorney for the southern district of new york and molly jeangras molly, i'd love to start with you. what surprised you the most about the 1/6 committee's final report >> just how much evidence there was. i mean, there's just a sea of evidence you know, they tried this so many times in so many different ways, and trump -- there's so much proof that trump knew, that trump told people he knew, that there are all these witnesses. i mean, from cassidy hutchinson down, who said they knew what was going on her story with giuliani where giuliani said, tomorrow's going to be great. there's just so much premeditation and just mountains and mountain of evidence more than 200 times they try in the different ways to overturn the election results

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prison the government was seeking life. the guy got 16 years do you think a 16-year sentence will deter other extremists, or do you think it's just going to inspire them >> far right militia groups pose a great threat the our national security and they deserve the full force of the law, but you the larger issue is whether our political system is able to keep this kind of extremism on the fringes, which is where it belongs, or if our political system has become compromised and is allowing this type of extremism into the mainstream, which is when it become a really serious danger my fear is that a lower sentence would sort of make it seem a little less serious than it is but the problem -- the bigger problem we face is that one of our political parties, the republican party, really opened the door for extremism by normalizing dangerous conspiracies and other sort of extreme ideas that don't belong

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