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family members that he had lost. how are you going to establish if you were his defense lawyer that he didn't think he had lost the election? >> remember, it's not about inciting an insurrection. it's about conspiracy to obstruct an official proceeding and defraud the united states. it's not about what happened outside the capitol and when the protesters breached. it's about what he was try doing with that proceeding that mike -- >> it's the fake electors. there's a lot here about -- in the indictment about the conspiracy that went well beyond what happened in the capitol. >> but it all relates to that. they are talking about all of the buildup. but if all he is doing is making claims on tv and making claims in speeches, then john lauro would be right that it would be a first amendment issue. we shouldn't be criminalizing that. what makes it go from being a
smorgasbord and call the identity zoo. wouldn't that be great? >> jessica: sounds freaky to me. dana? >> dana: they had a major problem in china of youth unemployment. it's like at 28% or something like that. they have all these college students who graduated. they were promised jobs and don't have any. they are basically now having to work in bear suits at the zoos. quite tragic. we shouldn't be that worried about them. >> greg: people think jesse is in a bear suit when he's naked. >> jesse: what? not going to address that. disgusting pig. but like trump said about pence, china is too honest. they would never lie about bears or bats. they're such an honest country. the way i can tell is you can see the fat wrinkles on the costume. i mean, the skin on the back rolled down over his crack. >> jessica: that definitely looks costumy, the backside. >> they lied about the penguins. that was not very nice. never got the reputation back. this is a mascot and this is so
decision. ultimately this is a problem that both parties have contributed to over these years. we shouldn't be going up to the cliff every time to fund the government. i think, and one of the things i will work for when i'm president is have at least two-year appropriation cycles. i would even push for four years so we have a level of consistency and accountability. the wrong incentives to have in the government. this is a problem that both parties have had. now, in order to solve this complicated problem, we need common sense. >> will hurd, thanks so much for joining us. we'll continue this conversation for sure down the road. >> thank you, wolf. let's bring in our political commentators, van jones and alyssa farah griffin. alyssa, your former boss mike
that race isn't as bad here as it is in the united states. and, yes, it is. yes, it is? yes, it is. absolutely. we just have to look at the statistics around the prison population, around mental health, around housing or on unemployment. we just have to look at the disproportionate number of young black men under 25 who are unemployed. we can see structural inequality in exactly the same way as in the us. although i'm going to quote to you the words of tomiwa 0wolade, a young, talented black british writer who's just written a book, this is not america: why black lives matter in britain, where the argument is precisely that we shouldn't transport assumptions about the entrenched, racist post—slavery systems in the united states and think they translate to the uk. the uk, he says, is fundamentally different. and what i love is that we're living in a time where there can be diverse thoughts within the black community. i happen to fundamentally disagree with that. i think it's flawed in its analysis.
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in your lap, another entire addition to that case? >> look, i tend to think that that document, that 30-second document, is a real problem for the defense team. and i think it's a real problem because in that meeting, there were discussions going on about that document. and they're able to now go to witnesses and say, was that document present in that meeting? and whether the president claims it was classified or declassified or whatever it is, that's all going to get sorted out. but the bottom line is, if it wasn't declassified and he can't show it as declassified and he was showing it to somebody he shouldn't, and that person corroborates that testimony, that's a real problem for the former president. >> well, i mean, he acknowledges on that audiotape that it wasn't declassified. i mean, he's the one saying that. and of course everyone has talked about not only the effort to retain the documents but also transmission, showing it to other people. mae, one thing we have learned
>> but at the same time, a 4-year-old child should be off limits politically. so, i do hope that we can -- i mean, attack him all you want. but remember that someday this child is going to look back and read what it is that people are saying about her. so, i would just caution folks on all sides of the political spectrum to just -- there's got to be one place, one thing, that is off limits. and that should be a 4-year-old child who's completely innocent. >> how do republicans handle this? does this put the issue to bed for them? >> we shouldn't pick presidents of the united states based on family issues. i've got three kids. i want to leave them off the radar, let them grow up and lead their lives. eight out of ten americans don't want to see donald trump and joe biden run against each other, yet that looks like the train wreck that's going to happen. as a republican that got this right right out of the gates, it's bittersweet because for about 8 milliseconds i feel like
but it's also a reflection, i think, of the country and its state. we want to avoid the ugliness of our past so we can absolve ourselves of responsibility of our present. it's a tragic thing. >> and alabama, yet another state in the south, the states republican loeb legislator approved a new congressional map that openly defies with the united states supreme court told them to do. give black voters more power in that state. and that we shouldn't be surprised because it's alabama, but what does it say about the institutionalized us criminally shun and races and when even the supreme court is being ignored? >> yeah. remember, history dam shirt rhymes. remember the words coming out of the mouth of george wallace? right, in some ways it was the words of dr. king, too. dr. king kind of commenting on george wallace about interpretation and nullification. you remember that language? this is what this is. so, there's a sense in which you have in america, at least through the spoke, that there's two americus.
play. people don't know how they will get to health care appointments. businesses will go out of business. what we need is in the next few weeks for the labour party to stop this. those of the people now, before this comes in that need to challenge it. it is now, before this comes in that need to challenge it.— to challenge it. it is interesting that so keir— to challenge it. it is interesting that so keir starmer _ to challenge it. it is interesting that so keir starmer has i to challenge it. it is interesting that so keir starmer has called | to challenge it. it is interesting i that so keir starmer has called on sadiq khan to further reflect on his plan. we are coming into election season, it is highly likely that the experience in uxbridge make subdued votes in other marginal seats. i votes in other marginal seats. i believe that keir starmer is wrong to get— believe that keir starmer is wrong to get involved, we shouldn't see politicians — to get involved, we shouldn't see politicians pitted against each other — politicians pitted against each other. they should be working together— other. they should be working together to create really strong changes — together to create really strong changes so we don't keep kicking this can _ changes so we don't keep kicking this can down the path. we have to address— this can down the path. we have to address it — this can down the path. we have to address it now, we know the problems people _ address it now, we know the problems people are _