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sunday service — the royal mail says it will trial sunday deliveries for the first time, to cash in on the boom in online shopping as it plays catch—up with rivals. two wins and two draws for british sides in the europa league. more magic from harry kane leaves tottenham with one foot in the quarterfinals. and ever changing skies across the uk today. thundery showers, bit of sunshine, the odd rainbow. iwill have yourfull sunshine, the odd rainbow. iwill have your full forecast here on breakfast. it's friday march the 12th. our top story. the family of sarah everard have paid tribute to her as a "shining example to us all" who "brought so much joy to our lives". a serving metropolitan police officer is still being held on suspicion of murdering the 33—year—old. the force has referred itself to the police watchdog over how it investigated a separate allegation that the same officer indecently exposed himselfjust three days before sarah went missing. charlotte wright has the latest developments. bright and beautiful, a wonderful daughter and sister. words from the family of 33—year—old sarah everard, who went missing in south london more than a week ago. last night, her loved ones released this tribute, after human remains were discovered in the search for her. this morning, a serving met police diplomatic protection officer remains in custody, suspected of kidnap and murder. he was arrested in kent on tuesday. yesterday, he was taken to hospital after suffering a head injury while in custody. officers have now been granted more time to question him. just three days before sarah disappeared, police received a report alleging the suspect had exposed himself in a fast—food restaurant. now the police watchdog has announced it will investigate whether officers responded to that appropriately. it will also separately assess the actions of police after sarah was reported missing. at the site of the discovery of human remains, police officers laid flowers brought by the public. sarah's death has prompted an outpouring of shock and anger, as women across the country share their own experiences of feeling unsafe. but for now, her family have made a simple appeal for anyone with information to come forward. charlotte wright, bbc news. in a moment we'll speak to simonjones in ashford, in kent, where an intensive police search is ongoing. first let's go to scotland yard and get more detail from charlotte wright. good morning. the murder investigation is continuing. give us more information on the met police putting itself under scrutiny in connection with a separate but clearly connected charges. goad clearly connected charges. good morninu. clearly connected charges. good morning. while _ clearly connected charges. good morning. while the _ clearly connected charges. good morning. while the police - morning. while the police investigation continues the investigation continues the investigation into that police will also begin because the met is facing pretty serious questions at the moment, in particular after it emerged that the suspect had been accused of indecent exposure three days before sarah went missing. we know two officers are being investigated by the independent office for police conduct over their response to that accusation. that is one of five investigations being carried out by the ao pc. they are also looking into the met�*s response to the initial report and looking at how the suspect gained a head injury in custody. this has elicited a huge response across the country and across the world and a number of people are keen to hold a vigil in sarah's name on saturday, a socially distanced vigil, but they say the met police have told them they can't do that. of course in the current lockdown these large gatherings can be disbursed by the police and issued some pretty hefty fines. the group who want to hold the visual say they will be going to the high court today, challenging the met�*s interpretation of the coronavirus restrictions. you can tell the strength of feeling that is around about this issue at the moment. thank you. simonjones is in ashford in kent, where police found human remains on wednesday. the investigation likely to continue for some time. yes. wednesday. the investigation likely to continue for some time. yes, and there is a sombre _ mood at the investigation site. the real enormity of what has happened is starting to hit home and has affected the public. i was here yesterday as police walked down this road. they have flowers brought by members of the public who didn't know sarah everard but wanted to express their sympathies to her family, and herfamily making that statement yesterday, really bringing home the enormity of what has happened to them, talking about her being kind and caring, bright and beautiful. the family is also appealing for anyone with any information to contact the police. however insignificant they may think the information is. certainly the investigation here has been continuing apace. yesterday mobile offices were brought into the site. we saw divers and sniffer dogs. it appears the police are going to be here for some time to come and of course the key thing for them, questioning the suspect, a serving met police officer. they have been granted more time to talk to him. thank you, simonjones. wales will begin to ease its lockdown rules from this weekend, to allow more mixing between households, indoor care home visits and outdoor sports. hairdressers and barbers can also reopen from monday, but non—essential retail will stay closed until march 22. our correspondent mark hutchings has more. as shopping experiences go, it's not a bad setting. but the high streets of rural monmouthshire are just as desperate as city shopping centres to get back into full trading. since the december lockdown, tommy brooks has swapped hairdressing for a temporaryjob, cleaning on a building site. he's ready to reopen, almost as keen to get customers back through the door as they are to get a haircut. going off last time what we did was we actually contacted all clients. so we'll probably do the same again and rebook them in order. but from the last experience, the first week back i could have probablyjust had someone full—time on the phone, because the phone was just nonstop. obviously everyone is desperate for a professional haircut at the moment. it is a rather mixed bag of news from the welsh government. from tomorrow, stay at home becomes stay local. the guidance is five miles, though those in rural areas are afforded more leeway. four people from two households can socialise outdoors, including gardens. on monday, hairdressers return. and from march the 22nd, those shops already open, such as supermarkets, can sell nonessential items. but it won't be until april 12 that all other shops and close contact services can open. hello, there. click and collect. those clicking, then collecting are helping things tick over, but only just. for most traders here, as elsewhere, christmas came and went rather early. so they'd rather like springtime to be the season to celebrate. mark hutchings, bbc news, abergavenny. covid restriction will be relaxed in scotland from today. up to four people from two households will be able to meet up outside, while up to 15 people can exercise together outside. first minister nicola sturgeon says the new rules are possible because of what she calls "good progress" in suppressing the virus. the government is to hold a public inquiry to examine whether the construction of a controversial new coal mine should be allowed to go ahead in cumbria. the local council had backed the proposal which supporters argue could create hundreds ofjobs but environmentalists say the development would damage the uk's reputation in the run up to a major un climate summit in glasgow later this year. us presidentjoe biden says he is hopeful the country can mark independence from covid—i9 onjuly the 4th if people get vaccinated. in his first primetime address since taking office injanuary, he said all adults will be eligible for vaccination by the 1st of may. our correspondent david willis reports. so, thank you for being here. joe biden called it historic legislation that would rebuild the backbone of the country. it represents the biggest increase in federal assistance in generations. thank you all, appreciate it. journalists clamour. he re—emerged against a backdrop of flags from all the states in the union to talk about ramping up this country's vaccination programme, and for the first time to hold out the hope of a world that once seemed almost unimaginable — a world post—covid—i9. i want to talk about the next steps we're thinking about. first, tonight, i'm announcing that i will direct all states, tribes and territories to make all adults — people 18 and over — eligible to be vaccinated no later than may i. let me say that again. all adult americans will be eligible to get a vaccine no later than may i. the hope was to return to some semblance of normality by the 4th ofjuly — a day he suggested that could also mark america's independence from the coronavirus. roughly 10% of the population here has so far been vaccinated against the virus, but millions more doses will soon be available, and the biden administration is looking to more mobile vaccination sites and thousands more active—duty troops to speed up the process. this vaccine means hope. it will protect you and those you love from this dangerous and deadly disease. overcoming scepticism about the vaccine is still a challenge, though, and four of the president's predecessors — with the notable exception of donald trump — have now come together to spread the message. i carry a card in my pocket with the number of americans who've died from covid to date — it's on the back of my schedule. america has seen more deaths from covid—i9 than any other country in the world — approaching 530,000. president biden said the suffering could soon start to come to an end, and the world's largest economy could start to rebuild, but there remain plenty of obstacles ahead. david willis, bbc news, los angeles. the cbeebies bedtime story has been providing mums with a gift for mother's day for the last few years — and this year is no different. six, no more, i must have you at eight. the actor rege—jean page is the latest big name signing for the programme — he plays the duke of hastings in bridgerton. he'll read the book rain before rainbows. fox was just telling me that he's had a bad day today. we can all have bad days, but it's important to remember that tomorrow will be much brighter. that's the message in tonight's bedtime story. it's called rain before rainbows. he has a very soothing voice. doesn't he just like hey? he has a very soothing voice. doesn't hejust like hey? should listen to more of that.— doesn't hejust like hey? should listen to more of that. here is some rain and a rainbow. _ listen to more of that. here is some rain and a rainbow. anyone - listen to more of that. here is some rain and a rainbow. anyone would i rain and a rainbow. anyone would think i planned _ rain and a rainbow. anyone would thinki planned it. _ rain and a rainbow. anyone would thinki planned it. good _ rain and a rainbow. anyone would thinki planned it. good morning. | thinki planned it. good morning. good morning. _ thinki planned it. good morning. good morning. good _ thinki planned it. good morning. good morning. good morning - thinki planned it. good morning. good morning. good morning at. thinki planned it. good morning. - good morning. good morning at home stocking _ good morning. good morning at home stockin: ., good morning. good morning at home stockina ., good morning. good morning at home stockin. ., , ., , ~' ., good morning. good morning at home stockin ., ., , good morning. good morning at home stockin: ., ., , ., good morning. good morning at home stockina ., ., , ., 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we _ coordinated. all a very spring, bring it on. we love _ coordinated. all a very spring, bring it on. we love rainbows. j coordinated. all a very spring, i bring it on. we love rainbows. a coordinated. all a very spring, - bring it on. we love rainbows. a bit of sweetness to what will be out there _ of sweetness to what will be out there today. pretty nasty dad was a time, heavy — there today. pretty nasty dad was a time, heavy and thundery showers, but sunshine in between and it leads to rainbows — but sunshine in between and it leads to rainbows. a blustery feel, quite chilly— to rainbows. a blustery feel, quite chilly out— to rainbows. a blustery feel, quite chilly out there. let me show you whether— chilly out there. let me show you whether showers are, white is hale and hill_ whether showers are, white is hale and hill snow, blue is rain and you can see _ and hill snow, blue is rain and you can see flashes of lightning across western_ can see flashes of lightning across western areas. we very hit and miss. areas— western areas. we very hit and miss. areas around — western areas. we very hit and miss. areas around the midlands, lincolnshire, yorkshire, free of showers — lincolnshire, yorkshire, free of showers at _ lincolnshire, yorkshire, free of showers at the moment, parts of centhal— showers at the moment, parts of central and — showers at the moment, parts of central and southern england but over the — central and southern england but over the next few hours showers will move _ over the next few hours showers will move in _ over the next few hours showers will move in. take something ordinary with you _ move in. take something ordinary with you if— move in. take something ordinary with you if you go out. showers reaching — with you if you go out. showers reaching eastern areas more widely through— reaching eastern areas more widely through the morning. into the afternoon, if you are showers across england _ afternoon, if you are showers across england and — afternoon, if you are showers across england and wales know they will continue — england and wales know they will continue in the west and still be heavy— continue in the west and still be heavy and — continue in the west and still be heavy and thundery in places. temperatures this afternoon down a bit yesterday, around eight to 11 degrees, — bit yesterday, around eight to 11 degrees, and it will feel fresh in a blustery— degrees, and it will feel fresh in a blustery wind. dust struggle that has been — blustery wind. dust struggle that has been but touching 40 to 50 mph along _ has been but touching 40 to 50 mph along the _ has been but touching 40 to 50 mph along the southern counties of englano — along the southern counties of england. eastern counties, a bit drier— england. eastern counties, a bit drier and — england. eastern counties, a bit drier and brighter this afternoon. northern— drier and brighter this afternoon. northern ireland is turning cloudier with further heavy rain at times and in scotland. — with further heavy rain at times and in scotland, this is whether showers are likely— in scotland, this is whether showers are likely to— in scotland, this is whether showers are likely to be sleet and snow over the higher— are likely to be sleet and snow over the higher ground and it will feel cool as— the higher ground and it will feel cool as the showers pushed through. temperatures dropping as a showers fall. outbreaks of rainjust temperatures dropping as a showers fall. outbreaks of rain just about anywhere — fall. outbreaks of rain just about anywhere tonight. strong winds through— anywhere tonight. strong winds through the english channel, a rough night, _ through the english channel, a rough night, but _ through the english channel, a rough night, but tomorrow morning, a touch of frost— night, but tomorrow morning, a touch of frost around for one or two, chilly— of frost around for one or two, chitty start _ of frost around for one or two, chilly start but into the weekend, more _ chilly start but into the weekend, more a _ chilly start but into the weekend, more a rainbow spotting on the way. sunshine _ more a rainbow spotting on the way. sunshine and showers continue. certainty— sunshine and showers continue. certainly was a treat for us, thank you. just coming up to 6:15am. the disappearance of sarah everard has prompted women across the uk to talk openly about the violence and harassment they have experienced on our streets, and to call for more to be done to keep women safe in public places. alpa patel has been speaking to women in south london about their experiences. clapham common — a place where many come to exercise, socialise, orjust pass through. like sarah everard — who is believed to have walked through here nine days ago, but was never seen again. her story now dominates many conversations on social media and here on clapham common. conversations like this one between freya and amelia that explore personal experiences of harassment. i think i've had it at the train station once. i even had it at the train station once. like, some guys were, like, behind me and they were like, "ooh, look," and i got really uncomfortable. and then they came round and they were like, "urgh, she's got an ugly face, though." |just be able to walk down the road| and not have them shout or whistle or toot the horn of their car or, like, go slowly past _ you in their car so they can check you out, like... - yeah, it'sjust not nice. we also met friends alex and leila. in the case of sarah everard, and in that particular context, i've never felt safe walking alone at night. as soon as the sun sets, it's a little bit scarier, a little bit more intense. i completely sympathise with a lot of the views that i'm seeing on social media. at this stage, i've got, like, an indelible ink spray. i've got keys between my fingers at all points. i've got an app on my phone that will go off and alert all my emergency contacts if i happen to scream. but there's too much pressure on us and what we need to be doing. the campaign group reclaim the streets hope to hold a vigil here on clapham common for sarah on saturday. it will also aim to highlight just how many women feel unsafe in public spaces, and just how angry some women are that that is part of everyday life. the experience of being in public spaces is different for women than it is for men, and we want to highlight that. we want to take back public spaces, show solidarity to each other, and hopefully help raise awareness with men who have actually been hugely receptive online about how they can help women feel safer, as well. vanita nowell. tracey kidd. nelly moustafa. zahida bi. yesterday, mpjess phillips read out the names of 118 women who had been killed over the last year. dead women is a thing we've alljust accepted as part of our daily lives. dead women isjust one of those things. killed women are not vanishingly rare. killed women are common. home secretary priti patel has said every woman should feel safe to walk our streets without fear of harassment or violence. but that reassurance is not enough for the women we met in clapham common. and she was literally doing everything like i would have done — she walked on a main road, she had bright clothing on, like, she called her boyfriend on the way home. if we're doing all those things that she did that we think, "0h, that might make us a bit safer," well, clearly it doesn't. so what do you do? alpa patel, bbc news. let's take a look at today's papers. lots of today's front pages — including the i — report that the metropolitan police face an inquiry over whether they properly investigated an indecent exposure claim involving the officer arrested on suspicion of the murder and kidnap of sarah everard. the metro reports on the campaign highlighting women's safety on the streets following sarah's disappearance. and "william blasts back at race slur" is the headline on the daily mail, which reports the duke of cambridge's insistence that the royal family is not racist. he was responding to comments made by prince harry and meghan markle in their oprah winfrey interview. worth saying we will be reflecting that conversation that i think is happening in a lot of homes or families, amongst friends about women and safety. we are going to reflect quite a bit this morning. indeed. it's mother's day this weekend. . �* , indeed. it's mother's day this weekend-— indeed. it's mother's day this weekend._ there | indeed. it's mother's day this i weekend._ there is indeed. it's mother's day this - weekend._ there is the weekend. that's right. there is the -ublic weekend. that's right. there is the public service _ weekend. that's right. there is the public service announcement - weekend. that's right. there is the public service announcement in - weekend. that's right. there is the | public service announcement in case you have forgotten. the council has been suggesting, give mums a bin permit for mother's day. it was posted on social media for anyone short of gift ideas. it had a link in the message to snap up the garden waste collection deal which costs £55 per year. one resident said they would actually be shoved into a wheelie bin if they dared to give them on that gift on my 14th. i5 wheelie bin if they dared to give them on that gift on my 14th. is it a aood them on that gift on my 14th. is it a good deal? _ them on that gift on my 14th. is it a good deal? £55 _ them on that gift on my 14th. is it a good deal? £55 per year? it - them on that gift on my 14th. is itj a good deal? £55 per year? it was hiuhbu a good deal? £55 per year? it was highbury district _ a good deal? £55 per year? it was highbury district council - a good deal? £55 per year? it was highbury district council in - highbury district council in leicestershire. said subscriptions have jumped as a result of its light hearted post. have jumped as a result of its light hearted post-— hearted post. there you go, if it lets hearted post. there you go, if it gets people _ hearted post. there you go, if it gets people recycling _ hearted post. there you go, if it gets people recycling and - hearted post. there you go, if it gets people recycling and doing | gets people recycling and doing things. cassette players, which apparently... i know we have done one or two stories about this. sales of cassette in 2020, more than 150,000 cassette were sold in the uk, more than double the previous year. uk, more than double the previous ear. , ., .., . ~ but uk, more than double the previous i year-_ but who year. they are coming back. but who has a cassette _ year. they are coming back. but who has a cassette player? _ year. they are coming back. but who has a cassette player? i _ year. they are coming back. but who has a cassette player? i obviously . has a cassette player? i obviously had one but what normal person has one any more? it had one but what normal person has one any more?— one any more? it depends how old our car one any more? it depends how old your car is- — one any more? it depends how old your car is- m _ one any more? it depends how old your car is. i'm talking _ one any more? it depends how old your car is. i'm talking about - one any more? it depends how old your car is. i'm talking about one i your car is. i'm talking about one in our your car is. i'm talking about one in your home. — your car is. i'm talking about one in your home, one _ your car is. i'm talking about one in your home, one of— your car is. i'm talking about one in your home, one of those - your car is. i'm talking about one i in your home, one of those cassette players. d0 in your home, one of those cassette -la ers. , ., in your home, one of those cassette .la ers. ., in your home, one of those cassette .la ers. y., ., ., in your home, one of those cassette -la ers. ., ., in your home, one of those cassette nla ers. ., ., no, players. do you have a boom box? no, i don't. players. do you have a boom box? no, i don't- the _ players. do you have a boom box? no, i don't. the point _ players. do you have a boom box? no, i don't. the point i'm _ players. do you have a boom box? no, i don't. the point i'm talking _ players. do you have a boom box? no, i don't. the point i'm talking about - i don't. the point i'm talking about is the man who invented the cassette has sadly died. it was 1973 and it was a simple principle. he thought reel to reel tapes with big and he does about putting sound on something more portable and lo and behold, lou ottens came up with this idea. he did admit that when the cd came along he thought it was infinitely better and the sound was better. . ., ., ., , better. can do a really good mix ta -e on better. can do a really good mix tape on the _ better. can do a really good mix tape on the cd, _ better. can do a really good mix tape on the cd, i _ better. can do a really good mix tape on the cd, i found. - we've been following the story of a possible link between sports such as football and rugby, and dementia which may be caused by head trauma such as heading the ball. it's a condition more and more former sportspeople and their families are having to live with and breakfast�*s graham satchell has been to meet former england footballer dave watson and former wales rugby international alix popham, who have both been diagnosed with the condition, to see how they are managing. hughes couldn't make it, but watson did! dave watson, scoring with his head for sunderland in their 1973 fa cup run. watson's fourth goal in the fa cup competition. watson was an uncompromising, tough tackling centre half. nobody picked him up and a very solid header gave barber no chance. if the ball's there, i'm going to win it. yeah. that's, eh... you were a fighter. i was a fighter, yeah. coppel takes. watson is there, and scores very, very easily. for sunderland, man city, notts county, southampton and here, for england, dave watson's repeated heading of the ball has taken its toll. he's been diagnosed with dementia. dave watson got up at the far post. it is not something that happens overnight, but it... ..slowly nibbles at your memory. and if there was a poll, you know, the... ..i'm not near the top at the moment. right from the first _ at notts county, you used to go back and do extra heading. when you were at southampton you and chris nichol used to be| heading the ball from one end of the gym inside, backwardsl and forwards, constantly, for hours. yeah. dave is among a growing number of former footballers to be diagnosed with dementia. penny, critical of the footballers' union, the pfa, who she says are not giving enough assistance. the older guys, they need the help now. i and most of the guys are justl going to get worse and worse, because we know it's not - going to get any better, is it? no. we know it's not going to get any better. - there's only one way it's going to go. - it'll give alix popham the chance. this is welsh international rugby player alix popham, who played for his country 33 times, but can't remember many of the games. alix popham, who came on as a sub... i should have vivid memories of that. yeah. i know, i know i had a good game now, after watching it back. but i've just got, yeah, no memories of that game. and there's lots of chunks of my career exactly the same. what's that? alix is 41. he has three daughters, his youngest just two. he was diagnosed with early onset dementia last year. doctors told him he'd had more than 100,000 sub—concussions in his career. it turned our world upside down. there's no getting away from that. that first weekend was just awful. it was really tough. i mean, it is still tough. there is still no treatment, no cure. those words were ringing in my head for, you know, a good few weeks after the diagnosis. alix has given his backing to new research, an app designed for athletes, fans, everyone. it measures finger dexterity, tracks eye movement. hamza selim, who developed the app, says data from those who have already used it, shows the clear consequences of any form of concussion. if you had had evenjust one concussion actually, you are 2.7 times more likely to develop a neurological disease later on in life. it's notjust the elite athletes that could potentially be at risk. but it's your grassroots players, it's, your, you know, workplace injuries. and that's something that i think we really need to get hold of, and something we're further investigating through the sporting mindset campaign. the referee looks at the watch. and sunderland have won the cup. the fa cup final, 1973. against all the odds, second division sunderland victorious against the mighty leeds, dave watson voted man of the match. and dave said this many times when the question is being posed — if you'd known what you were going to have, would you change anything? and you say. . ? no, i wouldn't. you know. erm... do you look back on your career with pride, dave? i do. nine minutes gone, and dave watson scores for england. _ "everyone knows how much the 1973 cup final team means to the club, and we wish you and your family well." dave has paid a heavy price for his sporting greatness. the football and rugby governing bodies, and the pfa, say they're working on solutions to better protect players. but the consensus among former players is much more needs to be done to help those already affected, and to protect the next generation. graham satchell, bbc news. very interesting hearing the reflections of the fans and very grateful to people speaking out. we will be doing more on that story. interesting to hear the scientists and the concerns and focus on the elite players who are coming forward with these conditions, but also the concerns about grassroots. people who have been involved in sport at a much lower level.— who have been involved in sport at a much lower level. michael talk about this later. time now to get the news, travel and weather where you are. good morning from bbc london. organisers of a vigil for sarah everard say they're seeking a high court appeal after police said the event couldn't go ahead due to covid restrictions. members of the group �*reclaim these streeets' were planning to meet on saturday evening in clapham in south london, close to where the 33—year—old went missing. they claim police allowed the gathering to take place, but then said they'd receive fines if it went ahead. a met spokesperson said they remain in discussion with organisers in light of current covid regulations. new figures have shown that cancer referrals and treatments have dropped again in london. january saw around 7,000 fewer londoners see a cancer specialist following an urgent gp referral, since the same time last year. and 600 fewer people have started their treatment — that's a drop of 18%. at the beginning of the pandemic, london saw the greatest drop—off in initial cancer treatments compared with the rest of england. the london marathon trust celebrates its 40th anniversary this weekend. it's delivered more than £93 million in funding to sports projects throughout its lifetime, the most recent being a bmx track in harrow. it opened in october and has been allowed to stay open during lockdown as a play facility. opening a track like this really puts bmx—ing and biking in generaljust out there. but i see lots of my friends here, and i'm still allowed to see them, given, obviously, covid regulations. and i think it provides an exercise which, i think, is very difficult to get nowadays. let's take a look at the travel situation now. there's a good service on the tubes this morning. over—running engineering works at streatham means that services are suspended on southern between balham and sutton and there are no trains running with thameslink between blackfriars and tooting one lane is closed for roadworks in both directions now the weather with kate kinsella. good morning. it's going to be another blustery day today. the wind perhaps not quite as strong as it was yesterday morning, but still it is fairly fresh. so, showers mixed in there as well. we'll see one or two of those first thing this morning, moving away on the breeze, however. still a risk in the afternoon, but some bright spells, some sunny spells. the temperature reaching 11 celsius, but factor in that wind and it is going to feel a little chillier. overnight tonight, again we are going to see further showers. the wind, in fact, strengthens as we head through tonight into tomorrow morning, pushing towards us some more prolonged spells of rain through the early hours. gusts of wind, 40 to 45 mph, widely. temperatures overnight between four and six celsius. as we head into the weekend, it is going to be quite breezy tomorrow, that rain clearing first thing. dry with sunny spells in the afternoon. again, temperatures remain similar. similar conditions for sunday, but the windfall is a little bit lighter. into next week, high pressure starts to move in, so the weather becomes a little more settled. i'm back with the latest from the bbc london newsroom in half an hour. plenty more on our website at the usual address. bye for now. hello, this is breakfast with charlie stayt and naga munchetty. coming up on breakfast this morning... a new documentary about presenter caroline flack is being screened on channel 4 this week, and ahead of that we'll hear clips from her family and friends talking about her mental health, and her life and death. more twins are being born than ever before, according to new research — but what is it like to be one half of a pair? we'll ask some very well—known twins — jedward will be with us later. and when mark ormrod falls down, he gets right back up again. we'll meet the former royal marine commando who lost both his legs and arm in afghanistan, and is aiming to complete a charity run today. back to one of our main stories this morning, and wales will ease some of its lockdown rules from this weekend to allow more social mixing and outdoor sports. let's talk more about this with dr amijones, who's an intensive care consultant at a hospital in abergavenny. good morning to you. good morning. tell me, good morning to you. good morning. tell me. doctor. _ good morning to you. good morning. tell me, doctor, what— good morning to you. good morning. tell me, doctor, what is— good morning to you. good morning. tell me, doctor, what is it _ good morning to you. good morning. tell me, doctor, what is it like - tell me, doctor, what is it like where you work at the moment is in intensive care worker?— intensive care worker? yeah, it is auieter intensive care worker? yeah, it is quieterthan _ intensive care worker? yeah, it is quieter than it — intensive care worker? yeah, it is quieter than it was _ intensive care worker? yeah, it is quieter than it was at _ intensive care worker? yeah, it is quieter than it was at the - intensive care worker? yeah, it is quieter than it was at the peak i intensive care worker? yeah, it is quieter than it was at the peak of| quieter than it was at the peak of the wave — quieter than it was at the peak of the wave but we still have a good number _ the wave but we still have a good number of — the wave but we still have a good number of patients suffering from covid-19— number of patients suffering from covid—19. some on very long hospital stays _ covid—19. some on very long hospital stays we _ covid—19. some on very long hospital stays. we are not infrequently receiving — stays. we are not infrequently receiving new patients to the hospital— receiving new patients to the hospital with covid—19. some intensive _ hospital with covid—19. some intensive care. hospital with covid-19. some intensive care.— hospital with covid-19. some intensive care. what are your feelinus intensive care. what are your feelings as — intensive care. what are your feelings as restrictions - intensive care. what are yourj feelings as restrictions ease? intensive care. what are your . feelings as restrictions ease? do you have any concerns, or do you think things are going at the right pace? i think things are going at the right ace? ~ , ., ., ., pace? i think things are going at the riaht pace? i think things are going at the right pace- _ pace? i think things are going at the right pace. i'm _ pace? i think things are going at the right pace. i'm glad - pace? i think things are going at the right pace. i'm glad mark . the right pace. i'm glad mark drakeford is taking things slowly. there _ drakeford is taking things slowly. there is— drakeford is taking things slowly. there is a — drakeford is taking things slowly. there is a significant amount of the population— there is a significant amount of the population are not vaccinated. although _ population are not vaccinated. although numbers of infections have .one although numbers of infections have gone down, they are not a zero. there _ gone down, they are not a zero. there are — gone down, they are not a zero. there are still people with infections and still people in hospital. taking things cautiously and giving it time to see how things change. _ and giving it time to see how things change, makes it really important. can you _ change, makes it really important. can you tell— change, makes it really important. can you tell me the impact? we are getting to the point where we can ease. if people push that easing about, what is the impact for you as about, what is the impact for you as a consultant care consultant? it about, what is the impact for you as a consultant care consultant?- a consultant care consultant? it has been a tough _ a consultant care consultant? it has been a tough year _ a consultant care consultant? it has been a tough year for _ a consultant care consultant? it has been a tough year for everybody. i been a tough year for everybody. people _ been a tough year for everybody. people have made huge sacrifices. if people _ people have made huge sacrifices. if people push the speed of how things lived. _ people push the speed of how things lived. i_ people push the speed of how things lived, i worry that we willjust end ”p lived, i worry that we willjust end up back— lived, i worry that we willjust end up back where we were and infection rates _ up back where we were and infection rates will— up back where we were and infection rates will go up. there is a huge amount— rates will go up. there is a huge amount of— rates will go up. there is a huge amount of the population still not have -- _ amount of the population still not have —— vaccinated. i worry we will .et have —— vaccinated. i worry we will get back— have —— vaccinated. i worry we will get back to — have —— vaccinated. i worry we will get back to the situation before christmas were a significant number of patients— christmas were a significant number of patients were in hospital and in intensive — of patients were in hospital and in intensive care. i look at my patients— intensive care. i look at my patients in intensive care and some of them _ patients in intensive care and some of them wouldn't have been vaccinated yet. the vaccination programme is going bring italy but we are _ programme is going bring italy but we are not— programme is going bring italy but we are not quite there yet. people need _ we are not quite there yet. people need to— we are not quite there yet. people need to come down and not rush. we don't _ need to come down and not rush. we don't want _ need to come down and not rush. we don't want another significant way. there _ don't want another significant way. there has— don't want another significant way. there has been an —— a warning from the government scientific adviser that wales is moving too quickly. when you hear something like that, does that feel real? it when you hear something like that, does that feel real?— does that feel real? it does feel real because — does that feel real? it does feel real because we _ does that feel real? it does feel real because we have _ does that feel real? it does feel real because we have seen - does that feel real? it does feel real because we have seen it. does that feel real? it does feel i real because we have seen it twice before _ real because we have seen it twice before at — real because we have seen it twice before. at least twice before. we watched — before. at least twice before. we watched the numbers in the community, it gets advertised every day, and _ community, it gets advertised every day, and a _ community, it gets advertised every day, and a week later we see that hit the _ day, and a week later we see that hit the hospitals and intensive care — hit the hospitals and intensive care we _ hit the hospitals and intensive care. we have seen it before. we didn't— care. we have seen it before. we didn't listen — care. we have seen it before. we didn't listen carefully enough. we need _ didn't listen carefully enough. we need to— didn't listen carefully enough. we need to listen carefully this time. this is— need to listen carefully this time. this is a — need to listen carefully this time. this is a chance to do it properly, that we _ this is a chance to do it properly, that we haven't done before. let's not rush— that we haven't done before. let's not rush this time. do that we haven't done before. let's not rush this time.— not rush this time. do you feel comfortable — not rush this time. do you feel comfortable out _ not rush this time. do you feel comfortable out by _ not rush this time. do you feel comfortable out by the - not rush this time. do you feel. comfortable out by the relaxation not rush this time. do you feel- comfortable out by the relaxation of rules this weekend? yes. comfortable out by the relaxation of rules this weekend?— rules this weekend? yes, i feel reasonably _ rules this weekend? yes, i feel reasonably comfortable. - rules this weekend? yes, i feel reasonably comfortable. it - rules this weekend? yes, i feel reasonably comfortable. it is i rules this weekend? yes, i feel reasonably comfortable. it is a | reasonably comfortable. it is a small— reasonably comfortable. it is a small change, stay local rather than stay at _ small change, stay local rather than stay at home. it is a small number of people — stay at home. it is a small number of people meeting outside. we know this disease is airborne, so the biggest — this disease is airborne, so the biggest risk is people meeting indoors — biggest risk is people meeting indoors with poor ventilation. meeting _ indoors with poor ventilation. meeting outside its relatively low risk. meeting outside its relatively low risk i_ meeting outside its relatively low risk i do— meeting outside its relatively low risk. i do feel quite comfortable. and again. — risk. i do feel quite comfortable. and again, i'm sure the first minister— and again, i'm sure the first minister will be checking to see what _ minister will be checking to see what happens to our numbers before we make _ what happens to our numbers before we make any more changes. you mentioned _ we make any more changes. you mentioned about _ we make any more changes. gm. mentioned about the vaccination programme. it is still not a door to freedom yet, is it? he. programme. it is still not a door to freedom yet, is it?— programme. it is still not a door to freedom yet, is it? no, it's not. we have done — freedom yet, is it? no, it's not. we have done brilliant _ freedom yet, is it? no, it's not. we have done brilliant llewellyn - freedom yet, is it? no, it's not. we| have done brilliant llewellyn wales. we have _ have done brilliant llewellyn wales. we have got a huge number of the population vaccinated but not everybody is and not everybody wants to be _ everybody is and not everybody wants to be until _ everybody is and not everybody wants to be. untilwe everybody is and not everybody wants to be. until we get a transmission much _ to be. until we get a transmission much lower— to be. until we get a transmission much lower and vaccination much higher. _ much lower and vaccination much higher. i— much lower and vaccination much higher, i can't see us getting back to life _ higher, ican't see us getting back to life that— higher, i can't see us getting back to life that looks like normal. dr am to life that looks like normal. amyjones, to life that looks like normal. d amyjones, talking to to life that looks like normal. li amyjones, talking to us from abergavenny, thank you. 6:34am. let's catch up with the sport. 6:34am. let's catch up with the sort. ~ ., 6:34am. let's catch up with the sort, . ., ., , 6:34am. let's catch up with the sort. ~ ., ., , ., , sport. who do i see there? harry kane. sport. who do i see there? harry kane- almost — sport. who do i see there? harry kane. almost the _ sport. who do i see there? harry kane. almost the complete - sport. who do i see there? harry l kane. almost the complete player, described as last night. defending, scoring goals, creating chances. he can't drop in, even for the europa league. it is relentless comedy football. , . , league. it is relentless comedy football. , ., ., football. this was an important match, football. this was an important match. they — football. this was an important match, they were _ football. this was an important match, they were in _ football. this was an important match, they were in the - football. this was an important match, they were in the last i football. this was an important| match, they were in the last 16. yes, seven changes for spurs but not harry kane. jose mourinho was in awe over harry kane yet again, after their 2—0 win at home to dinamo zagreb. mourinho made seven changes for the match, but starting kane was never in doubt, and he scored both goals to give them a comfortable cushion going into the second leg in croatia next week. he's very intelligent. his football is an intelligent football. he understands every tip that we give him in terms of his position, in terms of his movement. you can fill the spaces, he can look around. he can see where other players are and where he can affect the game. he is really a very, very, very good player. all four british clubs, will fancy their chances, of making the quarterfinals of the europa league after the first legs — that's despite late frustration for manchester united, who conceded a late equaliser against ac milan. but a star was born at old trafford — amad diallo, scoring his first united goal. and his superb header looked to have secured the first—leg advantage, but in stoppage time the visitors picked up a vital away goal. that makes for an interesting return leg in italy next thursday. arsenal are well placed to avoid a repeat of their exit at the hands of olympiakos last season. they won 3—1 in greece, mohammed elneny with the pick of those valuable, away goals. the new scottish champions rangers went a goal down early on at slavia prague. but filip helander tapped home a vital away goal to level. and in the final minute, allan mcgregor produced what manager steven gerrard hailed as a "world class" save to keep it at 1—1. gerrard is trying to persuade 39—year—old mcgregor to sign for another season. you can see how quickly he gets down. chelsea and manchester city will find out who they'll face in the quarterfinals of the women's champions league this morning. city reached the last eight by thrashing fiorentina 5—0 in italy. ellen white linked up with her england team—mate lauren hemp to score twice, and usa world cup winner sam mewis also bagged two goals, as they went through 8—0 on aggregate. now, after being amazed by how roger federer was moving around the court on his return to competitive acton yesterday, he's now out of the qatar open in doha. he is human, after all, losing to world number 42, nikoloz basilashvili. federer said he was pleased to have come through two three—set matches, but he still wasn't a hundred per cent after over a year out, following two knee operations. england's cricketers begin their t20 series against india this afternoon in ahmedabad. the home side came out on top in the test series, but these five matches will be a crucial run—through, ahead of the twenty20 world cup, also be in india later this year. this is almost the perfect preparation to try and replicate what we're going to come up against at the world cup in seven months' time. i think, i suppose the one addition to that is, i think we'll play at more grounds. we do play the five games at the same ground here. it was a nightmare start for rory mcilroy at golf�*s players championship in florida. this tournament is the unofficial fifth major. but defending champion mcilroy started on the back nine, and the 18th hole was his downfall. he sent two shots into the water and ended up with a quadruple bogey eight, in a round of 79. his player partner sergio garcia leads on seven under. and three shots back is england's matthew fitzpatrick, who hit one of the shots of the day on his way to a 68. but rory mcilroy wasn't the only one struggling at sawgrass. the course is famed for its green on an island, on the par—three 17th. thirty five balls were hit into the water during the opening round — four of them by south korea's, an byeong—hun. he almost made it with his third attempt, but that took a dive as well. he ended up with an octuple bogey 11. what a horrible sight. you think you have finally got it to land. it what a horrible sight. you think you have finally got it to land.— have finally got it to land. it gets in our have finally got it to land. it gets in your head _ have finally got it to land. it gets in your head as _ have finally got it to land. it gets in your head as well. _ have finally got it to land. it gets in your head as well. you - have finally got it to land. it gets in your head as well. you get - in your head as well. you get really, really tense. every golfer has been there. i remember playing at a course with water and i think i sent five balls into the water. the air was obviously blue. but i cried. i was in a competition. so you had to score. there was no other way. i am sure there will be golfers out there with you. 100,000 going to that —— into the water on that whole every year. i that -- into the water on that whole every year-— every year. i think it is a good thing the _ every year. i think it is a good thing the water _ every year. i think it is a good thing the water is _ every year. i think it is a good thing the water is there. - every year. i think it is a good thing the water is there. it. every year. i think it is a good i thing the water is there. it keeps you on your mettle. that is the point. you on your mettle. that is the oint. . ., , ., . point. once it goes in once, you 'ust point. once it goes in once, you just have _ point. once it goes in once, you just have it— point. once it goes in once, you just have it in — point. once it goes in once, you just have it in your _ point. once it goes in once, you just have it in your head. - point. once it goes in once, you just have it in your head. you i point. once it goes in once, you i just have it in your head. you don't think it is going to go in the water. you can't play golf like that. it water. you can't play golf like that. , ., , ., water. you can't play golf like that. , ., , that. it is not supposed to be easy, is it? it's that. it is not supposed to be easy, is it? it's not! _ the royal mail is going to start delivering parcels to online shoppers on a sunday. ben's in london to tell us more. a lot of people might be thinking, why haven't they done this before, deliveries on a sunday? yes. why haven't they done this before, deliveries on a sunday?— deliveries on a sunday? yes, an interesting _ deliveries on a sunday? yes, an interesting one, _ deliveries on a sunday? yes, an interesting one, this. _ deliveries on a sunday? yes, an interesting one, this. i- deliveries on a sunday? yes, an interesting one, this. iwill- deliveries on a sunday? yes, an interesting one, this. i will put i interesting one, this. i will put that— interesting one, this. i will put that question to the royal mail in a second _ that question to the royal mail in a second. they are proposing a trial for a _ second. they are proposing a trial for a seven— second. they are proposing a trial for a seven day a week service, including — for a seven day a week service, including for the first time parcel deliveries — including for the first time parcel deliveries on a sunday. it feels like all— deliveries on a sunday. it feels like all through this pandemic there has been _ like all through this pandemic there has been stuff arriving from online shopping _ has been stuff arriving from online shopping at home every single day. but on _ shopping at home every single day. but on a _ shopping at home every single day. but on a sunday, not from the royal mail~ _ but on a sunday, not from the royal mail~ they _ but on a sunday, not from the royal mail. they have not done that. but they say— mail. they have not done that. but they say they will trial this service _ they say they will trial this service with some major retailers to cash in _ service with some major retailers to cash in on _ service with some major retailers to cash in on that boom in online shopping. _ cash in on that boom in online shopping, but also crucially, to play _ shopping, but also crucially, to play catch _ shopping, but also crucially, to play catch up with some of their rivals _ play catch up with some of their rivals we — play catch up with some of their rivals. we know there are new arrivals— rivals. we know there are new arrivals in— rivals. we know there are new arrivals in the parcel delivery market~ _ arrivals in the parcel delivery market. they are stealing a bit of a lead on _ market. they are stealing a bit of a lead on the — market. they are stealing a bit of a lead on the royal mail. so as promised, let's speak to street from the royal— promised, let's speak to street from the royal mail. good morning. as charlie _ the royal mail. good morning. as charlie says, many people will be wondering, why now? it has taken you quite a _ wondering, why now? it has taken you quite a while _ wondering, why now? it has taken you quite a while to operate a seven day service? _ quite a while to operate a seven day service? . . �* , ., ., ,., service? yeah, and it's all about the scale. _ service? yeah, and it's all about the scale, really. _ service? yeah, and it's all about the scale, really. what - service? yeah, and it's all about the scale, really. what we - service? yeah, and it's all about the scale, really. what we saw. service? yeah, and it's all about| the scale, really. what we saw in our quarter— the scale, really. what we saw in our quarter that _ the scale, really. what we saw in our quarter that ended _ the scale, really. what we saw in our quarter that ended over- our quarter that ended over christmas, _ our quarter that ended over christmas, we _ our quarter that ended over christmas, we saw- our quarter that ended over christmas, we saw 496 - our quarter that ended over. christmas, we saw 496 million parcels— christmas, we saw 496 million parcels coming _ christmas, we saw 496 million parcels coming through - christmas, we saw 496 million parcels coming through our. christmas, we saw 496 million - parcels coming through our network. we have _ parcels coming through our network. we have seen— parcels coming through our network. we have seen a _ parcels coming through our network. we have seen a seismic— parcels coming through our network. we have seen a seismic change - parcels coming through our network. we have seen a seismic change in i parcels coming through our network. i we have seen a seismic change in how consumers _ we have seen a seismic change in how consumers are — we have seen a seismic change in how consumers are shopping. _ we have seen a seismic change in how consumers are shopping. we - we have seen a seismic change in how consumers are shopping. we are i consumers are shopping. we are absolutely— consumers are shopping. we are absolutely here _ consumers are shopping. we are absolutely here to _ consumers are shopping. we are absolutely here to help - consumers are shopping. we are absolutely here to help our- consumers are shopping. we arej absolutely here to help our retail partners — absolutely here to help our retail partners deliver— absolutely here to help our retail partners deliver on _ absolutely here to help our retail partners deliver on that - absolutely here to help our retail partners deliver on that need. i absolutely here to help our retail. partners deliver on that need. that is what _ partners deliver on that need. that is what we — partners deliver on that need. that is what we are _ partners deliver on that need. that is what we are doing _ partners deliver on that need. that is what we are doing now. - partners deliver on that need. that is what we are doing now. talk- partners deliver on that need. that is what we are doing now.- is what we are doing now. talk me throu:h is what we are doing now. talk me through how _ is what we are doing now. talk me through how this _ is what we are doing now. talk me through how this will _ is what we are doing now. talk me through how this will work. - is what we are doing now. talk me through how this will work. it i is what we are doing now. talk me through how this will work. it is i through how this will work. it is with— through how this will work. it is with limited retail partners, as you describe _ with limited retail partners, as you describe them. who will i be able to order— describe them. who will i be able to order from _ describe them. who will i be able to order from and get delivered on a sunday? — order from and get delivered on a sunday? 50 order from and get delivered on a sunda ? ., ., “ order from and get delivered on a sunda ? ., ., ,, ., , order from and get delivered on a sunda ? ., , , sunday? so look, it goes across the full gamut- — sunday? so look, it goes across the full gamut- we _ sunday? so look, it goes across the full gamut. we are _ sunday? so look, it goes across the full gamut. we are looking - sunday? so look, it goes across the full gamut. we are looking to i sunday? so look, it goes across the full gamut. we are looking to help i full gamut. we are looking to help our retail— full gamut. we are looking to help our retail partners, _ full gamut. we are looking to help our retail partners, our— full gamut. we are looking to help our retail partners, our fashion i our retail partners, our fashion partners. — our retail partners, our fashion partners, everybody— our retail partners, our fashion partners, everybody really. i our retail partners, our fashion. partners, everybody really. now our retail partners, our fashion i partners, everybody really. now that we are _ partners, everybody really. now that we are in _ partners, everybody really. now that we are in lockdown _ partners, everybody really. now that we are in lockdown lots _ partners, everybody really. now that we are in lockdown lots of _ partners, everybody really. now that we are in lockdown lots of us - partners, everybody really. now that we are in lockdown lots of us are i we are in lockdown lots of us are 'ust we are in lockdown lots of us are just online — we are in lockdown lots of us are just online shopping _ we are in lockdown lots of us are just online shopping all- we are in lockdown lots of us are just online shopping all the i we are in lockdown lots of us are| just online shopping all the time. people _ just online shopping all the time. people have _ just online shopping all the time. people have turned _ just online shopping all the time. people have turned their - just online shopping all the time. i people have turned their bedrooms into changing — people have turned their bedrooms into changing rooms. _ people have turned their bedrooms into changing rooms. fashion i people have turned their bedrooms into changing rooms. fashion is i people have turned their bedrooms into changing rooms. fashion is an| into changing rooms. fashion is an important — into changing rooms. fashion is an important sector. _ into changing rooms. fashion is an important sector. a _ into changing rooms. fashion is an important sector. a lot _ into changing rooms. fashion is an important sector. a lot of - into changing rooms. fashion is an important sector. a lot of these i important sector. a lot of these retailers. — important sector. a lot of these retailers, this— important sector. a lot of these retailers, this has— important sector. a lot of these retailers, this has become i important sector. a lot of these retailers, this has become the i important sector. a lot of these i retailers, this has become the new retail— retailers, this has become the new retail experience _ retailers, this has become the new retail experience for— retailers, this has become the new retail experience for them. - retailers, this has become the new retail experience for them. they. retailers, this has become the new. retail experience for them. they are looking _ retail experience for them. they are looking for— retail experience for them. they are looking for a — retail experience for them. they are looking for a trusted _ retail experience for them. they are looking for a trusted partner. - retail experience for them. they are looking for a trusted partner. that i looking for a trusted partner. that is where _ looking for a trusted partner. that is where we — looking for a trusted partner. that is where we come _ looking for a trusted partner. that is where we come in _ looking for a trusted partner. that is where we come in with - looking for a trusted partner. that is where we come in with our- looking for a trusted partner. that is where we come in with our 500 | is where we come in with our 500 year— is where we come in with our 500 year heritage _ is where we come in with our 500 year heritage-— is where we come in with our 500 year heritage. some would say it is too little, year heritage. some would say it is too little. too _ year heritage. some would say it is too little, too late. _ year heritage. some would say it is too little, too late. you _ year heritage. some would say it is too little, too late. you are - year heritage. some would say it is too little, too late. you are not i too little, too late. you are not known — too little, too late. you are not known at — too little, too late. you are not known at the royal mail for being particularly nimble or adaptable. why is— particularly nimble or adaptable. why is this different? why are you doing _ why is this different? why are you doing it _ why is this different? why are you doing it now? do you have the resources _ doing it now? do you have the resources you need to make it happen? — resources you need to make it happen? you have got a lot of old equipment. some say you have not invested _ equipment. some say you have not invested enough over a long period of time _ invested enough over a long period of time. can you do it this time? look, _ of time. can you do it this time? look, we — of time. can you do it this time? look, we are _ of time. can you do it this time? look, we are changing at a pace. if you look— look, we are changing at a pace. if you look at— look, we are changing at a pace. if you look at some _ look, we are changing at a pace. if you look at some of _ look, we are changing at a pace. if you look at some of the _ look, we are changing at a pace. if you look at some of the things i look, we are changing at a pace. if you look at some of the things we. you look at some of the things we have _ you look at some of the things we have done — you look at some of the things we have done recently, _ you look at some of the things we have done recently, we _ you look at some of the things we have done recently, we lodged i you look at some of the things we have done recently, we lodged a. have done recently, we lodged a drone _ have done recently, we lodged a drone trial— have done recently, we lodged a drone trial to _ have done recently, we lodged a drone trial to reach _ have done recently, we lodged a drone trial to reach some - have done recently, we lodged a drone trial to reach some of- have done recently, we lodged a drone trial to reach some of ouri drone trial to reach some of our remote — drone trial to reach some of our remote customers. _ drone trial to reach some of our remote customers. we - drone trial to reach some of our remote customers. we have i drone trial to reach some of our. remote customers. we have also drone trial to reach some of our- remote customers. we have also put in place _ remote customers. we have also put in place a _ remote customers. we have also put in place a new— remote customers. we have also put in place a new parcel— remote customers. we have also put in place a new parcel deeper- remote customers. we have also put in place a new parcel deeper than i in place a new parcel deeper than the midlands _ in place a new parcel deeper than the midlands and _ in place a new parcel deeper than the midlands and in _ in place a new parcel deeper than the midlands and in warrington. i in place a new parcel deeper than i the midlands and in warrington. that is going _ the midlands and in warrington. that is going to _ the midlands and in warrington. that is going to be — the midlands and in warrington. that is going to be fitted _ the midlands and in warrington. that is going to be fitted with _ the midlands and in warrington. that is going to be fitted with the - is going to be fitted with the latest — is going to be fitted with the latest state—of—the—art i is going to be fitted with the - latest state—of—the—art technology. all of _ latest state—of—the—art technology. all of these — latest state—of—the—art technology. all of these changes _ latest state—of—the—art technology. all of these changes are _ latest state—of—the—art technology. all of these changes are coming - latest state—of—the—art technology. all of these changes are coming on| all of these changes are coming on place _ all of these changes are coming on place we — all of these changes are coming on place. we recently— all of these changes are coming on place. we recently launched - all of these changes are coming on place. we recently launched a - place. we recently launched a service — place. we recently launched a service where _ place. we recently launched a service where our— place. we recently launched a service where our postmen i place. we recently launched a i service where our postmen and post-women _ service where our postmen and post-women will _ service where our postmen and post—women will pick - service where our postmen and post—women will pick up - service where our postmen and i post—women will pick up returns service where our postmen and - post—women will pick up returns from the doorstep — post—women will pick up returns from the doorstep. absolutely, _ post—women will pick up returns from the doorstep. absolutely, we - post—women will pick up returns from the doorstep. absolutely, we are - the doorstep. absolutely, we are moving _ the doorstep. absolutely, we are moving at— the doorstep. absolutely, we are moving at speed _ the doorstep. absolutely, we are moving at speed and _ the doorstep. absolutely, we are moving at speed and ready- the doorstep. absolutely, we are moving at speed and ready to - the doorstep. absolutely, we are moving at speed and ready to do| the doorstep. absolutely, we are - moving at speed and ready to do this now _ moving at speed and ready to do this now and _ moving at speed and ready to do this now and so— moving at speed and ready to do this now and so are _ moving at speed and ready to do this now. and so are our— moving at speed and ready to do this now. and so are our partners. - moving at speed and ready to do this now. and so are our partners. we . now. and so are our partners. we look— now. and so are our partners. we look forward — now. and so are our partners. we look forward to _ now. and so are our partners. we look forward to more _ now. and so are our partners. we look forward to more red - now. and so are our partners. we look forward to more red vans - look forward to more red vans turning — look forward to more red vans turning up— look forward to more red vans turning up outside _ look forward to more red vans turning up outside people - look forward to more red vans - turning up outside people because 's comes— turning up outside people because 's comes in— turning up outside people because 's comes in the — turning up outside people because 's comes in the immediate _ turning up outside people because 's comes in the immediate future. - turning up outside people because 's| comes in the immediate future. let’s comes in the immediate future. let's talk about some _ comes in the immediate future. let's talk about some of _ comes in the immediate future. let's talk about some of the _ comes in the immediate future. talk about some of the logistics, particularly things like cost. we know— particularly things like cost. we know you — particularly things like cost. we know you have got a lot of rivals doing _ know you have got a lot of rivals doing it — know you have got a lot of rivals doing it cheaper. they are doing it seven— doing it cheaper. they are doing it seven days — doing it cheaper. they are doing it seven days a week already. you can drop it _ seven days a week already. you can drop it off— seven days a week already. you can drop it off at— seven days a week already. you can drop it off at your local corner shop — drop it off at your local corner shop if— drop it off at your local corner shop if you _ drop it off at your local corner shop if you want to send something. you are _ shop if you want to send something. you are hamstrung by the universal service _ you are hamstrung by the universal service obligation where you have .ot service obligation where you have got to _ service obligation where you have got to deliver to every house in the uk, but _ got to deliver to every house in the uk, but your rivals don't. at the same _ uk, but your rivals don't. at the same time — uk, but your rivals don't. at the same time you are not the cheapest? well same time you are not the cheapest? wett took. _ same time you are not the cheapest? well look, this is separate from the universat— well look, this is separate from the universal service. _ well look, this is separate from the universal service. this _ well look, this is separate from the universal service. this will- well look, this is separate from the universal service. this will be - well look, this is separate from the universal service. this will be a - universal service. this will be a commerciat— universal service. this will be a commercial venture. _ universal service. this will be a commercial venture. the - universal service. this will be a . commercial venture. the universal service _ commercial venture. the universal service is— commercial venture. the universal service is a — commercial venture. the universal service is a fantastic— commercial venture. the universal service is a fantastic thing - commercial venture. the universal service is a fantastic thing that - commercial venture. the universal service is a fantastic thing that we | service is a fantastic thing that we are proud — service is a fantastic thing that we are proud to — service is a fantastic thing that we are proud to deliver. _ service is a fantastic thing that we are proud to deliver. obviously i service is a fantastic thing that we are proud to deliver. obviously on the universat— are proud to deliver. obviously on the universal service _ are proud to deliver. obviously on the universal service we _ are proud to deliver. obviously on the universal service we deliver. the universal service we deliver parcels— the universal service we deliver parcels on— the universal service we deliver parcels on a _ the universal service we deliver parcels on a daily _ the universal service we deliver parcels on a daily basis. - the universal service we deliver parcels on a daily basis. it- the universal service we deliver parcels on a daily basis. it is. the universal service we deliver parcels on a daily basis. it is a. parcels on a daily basis. it is a wonderful— parcels on a daily basis. it is a wonderful thing. _ parcels on a daily basis. it is a wonderful thing. it _ parcels on a daily basis. it is a wonderful thing. it really- parcels on a daily basis. it is al wonderful thing. it really works well for— wonderful thing. it really works well for us _ wonderful thing. it really works well for us. in _ wonderful thing. it really works well for us. in this _ wonderful thing. it really works well for us. in this sense - wonderful thing. it really works well for us. in this sense we i wonderful thing. it really works . well for us. in this sense we have already— well for us. in this sense we have already been _ well for us. in this sense we have already been delivering _ well for us. in this sense we have already been delivering through i well for us. in this sense we have . already been delivering through the pandemic— already been delivering through the pandemic kits, _ already been delivering through the pandemic kits, testing _ already been delivering through the pandemic kits, testing kits - already been delivering through the pandemic kits, testing kits for- pandemic kits, testing kits for people — pandemic kits, testing kits for people on— pandemic kits, testing kits for people on a _ pandemic kits, testing kits for people on a sunday. - pandemic kits, testing kits for people on a sunday. so- pandemic kits, testing kits for people on a sunday. so we . pandemic kits, testing kits for- people on a sunday. so we already have the _ people on a sunday. so we already have the network— people on a sunday. so we already have the network in _ people on a sunday. so we already have the network in place. - people on a sunday. so we already have the network in place. this- people on a sunday. so we already have the network in place. this is. have the network in place. this is what _ have the network in place. this is what we — have the network in place. this is what we are — have the network in place. this is what we are building _ have the network in place. this is what we are building on. - have the network in place. this is what we are building on. we - have the network in place. this is. what we are building on. we played have the network in place. this is- what we are building on. we played a very important — what we are building on. we played a very important role _ what we are building on. we played a very important role in— what we are building on. we played a very important role in keeping - what we are building on. we played a very important role in keeping the . very important role in keeping the uk connected _ very important role in keeping the uk connected. we _ very important role in keeping the uk connected. we have _ very important role in keeping the uk connected. we have also - very important role in keeping the. uk connected. we have also played that rote _ uk connected. we have also played that rote in — uk connected. we have also played that role in helping _ uk connected. we have also played that role in helping to _ uk connected. we have also played that role in helping to fight - uk connected. we have also played that role in helping to fight this - that role in helping to fight this terrible — that role in helping to fight this terrible pandemic— that role in helping to fight this terrible pandemic and - that role in helping to fight this| terrible pandemic and hopefully tiring _ terrible pandemic and hopefully tiring it— terrible pandemic and hopefully tiring it to — terrible pandemic and hopefully tiring it to an— terrible pandemic and hopefully bring it to an end. _ terrible pandemic and hopefully bring it to an end.— bring it to an end. absolutely. mark, bring it to an end. absolutely. mark. good — bring it to an end. absolutely. mark. good to _ bring it to an end. absolutely. mark, good to speak- bring it to an end. absolutely. mark, good to speak to - bring it to an end. absolutely. mark, good to speak to you. | bring it to an end. absolutely. - mark, good to speak to you. market street _ mark, good to speak to you. market street from — mark, good to speak to you. market street from the royal mail. a lot of work for— street from the royal mail. a lot of work for them to do to make that service _ work for them to do to make that service on— work for them to do to make that service on a — work for them to do to make that service on a sunday work. there is a lot service on a sunday work. there is a tot of— service on a sunday work. there is a tot of behind — service on a sunday work. there is a lot of behind the scenes operations that need _ lot of behind the scenes operations that need to change. the technology invotved _ that need to change. the technology involved in _ that need to change. the technology involved in sorting those volume of parcels. _ involved in sorting those volume of parcels, 490 million parcels were delivered — parcels, 490 million parcels were delivered in the three months before christmas _ delivered in the three months before christmas. it is a huge challenge. andy— christmas. it is a huge challenge. andv witt— christmas. it is a huge challenge. andy will also notice they have not named _ andy will also notice they have not named the — andy will also notice they have not named the particular retailers. they are stilt— named the particular retailers. they are still in— named the particular retailers. they are still in talks with those retaiters _ are still in talks with those retailers to determine who you will be able _ retailers to determine who you will be able to — retailers to determine who you will be able to buy from and get it delivered on a sunday.- be able to buy from and get it delivered on a sunday. ben, thank ou. we delivered on a sunday. ben, thank from we are _ delivered on a sunday. ben, thank you. we are about _ delivered on a sunday. ben, thank you. we are about to _ delivered on a sunday. ben, thank you. we are about to go _ delivered on a sunday. ben, thank you. we are about to go to - delivered on a sunday. ben, thank you. we are about to go to matt i delivered on a sunday. ben, thank i you. we are about to go to matt with the weather. behind you, that light looks like it could be a summer's morning. it looks like it could be a summer's morninu. . looks like it could be a summer's morninu. , ., ., , looks like it could be a summer's morninu. , ., ,, . morning. it is gorgeous. shalli get out of the way _ morning. it is gorgeous. shalli get out of the way so _ morning. it is gorgeous. shalli get out of the way so you _ morning. it is gorgeous. shalli get out of the way so you can - morning. it is gorgeous. shalli get out of the way so you can look - morning. it is gorgeous. shalli get out of the way so you can look at l out of the way so you can look at it? |_ out of the way so you can look at it? ., . ., �* ., , it? i noticed that ben made sure the liuht hit it? i noticed that ben made sure the light hit the — it? i noticed that ben made sure the light hit the side _ it? i noticed that ben made sure the light hit the side of— it? i noticed that ben made sure the light hit the side of his _ it? i noticed that ben made sure the light hit the side of his face - it? i noticed that ben made sure the light hit the side of his face at - light hit the side of his face at the perfect angle.— light hit the side of his face at the perfect angle. nothing to do with me! i— the perfect angle. nothing to do with me! i know— the perfect angle. nothing to do with me! i know how— the perfect angle. nothing to do with me! i know how you - the perfect angle. nothing to do with me! i know how you work. | the perfect angle. nothing to do| with me! i know how you work. it the perfect angle. nothing to do i with me! i know how you work. it is stunninu. with me! i know how you work. it is stunning matt. _ with me! i know how you work. it is stunning. matt, do _ with me! i know how you work. it is stunning. matt, do you _ with me! i know how you work. it is stunning. matt, do you want - with me! i know how you work. it is stunning. matt, do you want to - with me! i know how you work. it isi stunning. matt, do you want to pick u - ? up? it looks rather 7 up. up? it looks rather beautiful this morning. it it looks rather beautiful this morninu. ., , it looks rather beautiful this morninu. ., , ~ ., . morning. it does. a noticeable chilled out _ morning. it does. a noticeable chilled out there _ morning. it does. a noticeable chilled out there this - morning. it does. a noticeable chilled out there this morning. morning. it does. a noticeable l chilled out there this morning. it won't stay that way, i'm afraid to say. they will be big downpours like we saw yesterday. look at this one in carlisle. not only heavy rain showers, but that was hailed on the ground. some of those showers will be particularly lively today. be prepared wherever you are heading, take something waterproof and something warmer. it is cooler out there. let's look at what is happening out there now. this is where we have seen the showers so far. flashes of lightning. there are some drier areas. london, as you saw, parts of east anglia, eastern scotland. do not be fooled because the showers from the west are pushing eastwards. for someone like the east midlands and eastern england they will hitjust in time for the school drop off. once they go through things will turn brighter again. it would be one of those days where these guys are chopping and changing from one hour to the next. we will see some snow with showers in the north, rail —— hail and thunder elsewhere. for england and eastern scotland, many will stay dry in the afternoon. a few showers in western areas in the second part of the day. the temperatures down on yesterday. six to ii the day. the temperatures down on yesterday. six to 11 degrees. the winds are not as strong. still a blustery day. 40 to 50 mph. that is in the west. that will make it feel cooler. into this evening and overnight at the wind will pick up once again. we could see severe gales in the english channel. notice rain will fall across most areas on and off through the night, with sleet and snow across parts of scotland and the north of england. any gaps in the cloud could lead to a frost, particularly in the north of scotland. icy conditions at the start of the weekend. low pressure in the north—east, high pressure in the west. we are drawing our air in from the north—west throughout. it will stay cool. there will be wet weather at times. we may start off tomorrow fairly cloudy with rain, even sleet and snow in northern england, southern scotland first thing, but back to sunshine and showers will stop most frequent in the west. drierfor showers will stop most frequent in the west. drier for longer. showers will stop most frequent in the west. drierfor longer. —— drier for longer in eastern areas. temperatures down a little bit. a chilly night on saturday to sunday. the greater chance of frost. by sunday most will start dry and bright, with more cloud pushing in. a damp and grey day in northern ireland. that damp and grey weather spreads into the midlands and wales. bright and sunny in the north east and southern counties. temperatures may be up a little bit as the winds continue to ease down. they will ease down further as we go into next week. not a completely dry week. as you can see, a random selection of some of the towns and cities across the country showing that most places will see some dry and bright weather at times. temperatures down a little bit for this time of the year. matt, thank you. you know me, i don't like it when it is rainy or cloudy. i love it when it is sunny. i'm not friendly to gardeners, whatever. these guys have been really dramatic. in the winter nights, especially. the sun sets and the sun rises. also, it is an opportunity to just look up, like this. opportunity to 'ust look up, like this. , . opportunity to 'ust look up, like this. , , this. exactly, these were across encland this. exactly, these were across england yesterday. _ this. exactly, these were across england yesterday. forming - england yesterday. forming thunderstorm clouds. cold air pushing down from underneath the cloud and forming into those amazing shapes. almost looks like clouds from a different planet. look up today because you might see them if you see some of the bigger showers —— sherrock clouds where you are. they are called order clouds. because they look like others. it is because they look like others. it is cold air because they look like others. it 3 cold air pushing down from underneath the cloud. usually cloud forms when the air goes up in the cloud. sometimes the cold air pushes down on and condenses into those cloud —like shapes. opposite what you normally expect, to be honest. i you normally expect, to be honest. i was an education speaking to you, man. �* ., y was an education speaking to you, man. �* ., , . was an education speaking to you, man. ., , . , for many runners, clocking up five kilometres — that's just over three miles — might not sound like a huge challenge. it would to me. it would to loads of people. but that's what the former royal marine mark ormrod is taking on this morning — and it's going to be extremely tough for him. determination, focus, grit. they're qualities that mark ormrod needed to become a royal marine commando, to fight in afghanistan and crucially, to survive a bomb blast that destroyed his legs and one of his arms. yeah, nice, mate. lovely. and now he'll need those qualities once again, as he attempts to run five kilometres for charity. so, i'm not a particularly good runner with prosthetics anyway. it takes a lot of concentration for me to stay upright and to make sure my toes are where they need to be when the foot lands, so that i can keep going forward. and then, as i progress, and i start to fatigue, the concentration is affected. i can't hold a conversation or anything with anybody. i'm in my own little zone, just trying to get into a one, two, one, two rhythm, and thenjust mentally, keep on top of the burn what i'm going to feel in my glutes. he's no stranger to challenges. from riding 3,000 miles on his hand—powered bike, to winning medals at the invictus games. breathe, focus. his trainer, also a former royal marine, has created exercises tailor made for mark's abilities. he's got no quads, no hamstrings, no calf. so he's relying off basically one muscle group, which is his glutes. and most human beings are pretty lazy with the glutes, and most of us don't actually activate them when we're doing a lot of exercise. it's incredible, really. the fact of the matter is that i think, mentally, more than anything, is where mark gets his strength from. shoulder blades nice and tight. elbow a little bit higher. the way the kettlebell is upside down, it's unstable. so everything from my wrist, you've got it get it up. so all this side's screaming, this side's getting pulled down and it's just constantly pulling your core out of alignment. so it looks like i'm just walking with something heavy. but actually, my core, my glutes, everything's activated and working at the same time. it's a killer. he's raising money for reorg, a charity that uses a brazilian martial art to help military emergency services and veterans. six! three more. make sure we're touching that head, lets's go. seven! training in his garage has one advantage — some home support from his family. you've got all this, haven't you, to run wit? these knees and these and these big feet! and i don't have any of them, do i? no. so, do i know what i have to use to run? your running legs! i use butt muscles, your bum muscles. yucky! yeah. that's what i use. what do you think — are you confident dad can do it? 100%? more than 100%? let's see. one trillion, zillion, kazillion per cent! l that's confidence. less than five months after the explosion in 2007, mark stood shoulder to shoulder with his comrades from 40 commando as they returned from afghanistan. but today, apart from ben's support, he'll run alone, aiming to prove once again that what seems impossible can be made possible. it's going to be brilliant. he is starting today. he has already impressed us. we have spoken to him before and this programme and he is absolutely determined to make this work. john maguire is with him ahead of him setting off at some point. good morning. morning, naga. he will be setting _ good morning. morning, naga. he will be setting off on a couple of minutes, _ be setting off on a couple of minutes, as soon as we have finished _ minutes, as soon as we have finished. we are at tavistock college. _ finished. we are at tavistock college, this is their track. mark is ready— college, this is their track. mark is ready to — college, this is their track. mark is ready to go. last—minute preparations. how are you this morning? _ preparations. how are you this morning? i— preparations. how are you this mornin: ? ., ., preparations. how are you this mornin: ? . . ., preparations. how are you this mornin: ? . . . ., morning? i am all right. i have got a little bit of _ morning? i am all right. i have got a little bit of nerves, _ morning? i am all right. i have got a little bit of nerves, which - morning? i am all right. i have got a little bit of nerves, which i - a little bit of nerves, which i exoected _ a little bit of nerves, which i expected. but _ a little bit of nerves, which i expected. but touch - a little bit of nerves, which i expected. but touch wood, i a little bit of nerves, which i. expected. but touch wood, the weather — expected. but touch wood, the weather will _ expected. but touch wood, the weather will stay _ expected. but touch wood, the weather will stay like - expected. but touch wood, the weather will stay like this. - expected. but touch wood, the i weather will stay like this. there's not much — weather will stay like this. there's not much wind~ _ weather will stay like this. there's not much wind. it _ weather will stay like this. there's not much wind. it is— weather will stay like this. there's not much wind. it is dry, - weather will stay like this. there's not much wind. it is dry, which- weather will stay like this. there's not much wind. it is dry, which isi not much wind. it is dry, which is great _ not much 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can. if especially if the _ like ice skates? they can. if especially if the carbon - like ice skates? they can. if. especially if the carbon touch like ice skates? they can. if- especially if the carbon touch is tvre~ _ especially if the carbon touch is tvre. luckily— especially if the carbon touch is tvre. luckily we _ especially if the carbon touch is tyre. luckily we have _ especially if the carbon touch is tyre. luckily we have a - especially if the carbon touch is . tyre. luckily we have a rubberised track, _ tyre. luckily we have a rubberised track, so — tyre. luckily we have a rubberised track, so that— tyre. luckily we have a rubberised track, so that should _ tyre. luckily we have a rubberised track, so that should negate - tyre. luckily we have a rubberised track, so that should negate thati track, so that should negate that issue _ track, so that should negate that issue touch— track, so that should negate that issue. touch wood. _ track, so that should negate that issue. touch wood. the - track, so that should negate that issue. touch wood. the only- track, so that should negate thati issue. touch wood. the only thing track, so that should negate that. issue. touch wood. the only thing i have _ issue. touch wood. the only thing i have to _ issue. touch wood. the only thing i have to focus — issue. touch wood. the only thing i have to focus on _ issue. touch wood. the only thing i have to focus on his _ issue. touch wood. the only thing i have to focus on his breathing - issue. touch wood. the only thing i have to focus on his breathing andi have to focus on his breathing and keeping _ have to focus on his breathing and keeping this — have to focus on his breathing and keeping this left _ have to focus on his breathing and keeping this left leg. _ have to focus on his breathing and keeping this left leg. we - have to focus on his breathing and keeping this left leg.— keeping this left leg. we talked a lot in the film _ keeping this left leg. we talked a lot in the film about _ keeping this left leg. we talked a lot in the film about bottom - lot in the film about bottom muscles _ lot in the film about bottom muscles. that is your engine? it is, eah. muscles. that is your engine? it is, veah- this — muscles. that is your engine? it is, yeah. this whole _ muscles. that is your engine? it is, yeah. this whole thing _ muscles. that is your engine? it is, yeah. this whole thing for- muscles. that is your engine? it is, yeah. this whole thing for me - muscles. that is your engine? it is, yeah. this whole thing for me is driven— yeah. this whole thing for me is driven by— yeah. this whole thing for me is driven by my— yeah. this whole thing for me is driven by my buns _ yeah. this whole thing for me is driven by my buns of _ yeah. this whole thing for me is driven by my buns of steel. - yeah. this whole thing for me is driven by my buns of steel. a i yeah. this whole thing for me is| driven by my buns of steel. a lot yeah. this whole thing for me is i driven by my buns of steel. a lot of it is going _ driven by my buns of steel. a lot of it is going to— driven by my buns of steel. a lot of it is going to be _ driven by my buns of steel. a lot of it is going to be keeping _ driven by my buns of steel. a lot of it is going to be keeping on- driven by my buns of steel. a lot of it is going to be keeping on top- driven by my buns of steel. a lot of it is going to be keeping on top of. it is going to be keeping on top of my breathing. _ it is going to be keeping on top of my breathing, staying _ it is going to be keeping on top of my breathing, staying calm - it is going to be keeping on top of my breathing, staying calm and i my breathing, staying calm and getting — my breathing, staying calm and getting into _ my breathing, staying calm and getting into a _ my breathing, staying calm and getting into a 1—2 _ my breathing, staying calm and getting into a 1—2 rhythm. - my breathing, staying calm and getting into a 1—2 rhythm. ethyl my breathing, staying calm and getting into a 1-2 rhythm. why do ou kee getting into a 1-2 rhythm. why do you keep putting _ getting into a 1-2 rhythm. why do you keep putting yourself- getting into a 1-2 rhythm. why doj you keep putting yourself through all of— you keep putting yourself through all of these crazy talents? | you keep putting yourself through all of these crazy talents?- all of these crazy talents? i wish i knew. all of these crazy talents? i wish i knew- l've — all of these crazy talents? i wish i knew. i've been _ all of these crazy talents? i wish i knew. i've been involved - all of these crazy talents? i wish i knew. i've been involved in - all of these crazy talents? i wish i knew. i've been involved in the i knew. i've been involved in the charity— knew. i've been involved in the charity world _ knew. i've been involved in the charity world for _ knew. i've been involved in the charity world for the _ knew. i've been involved in the charity world for the last - knew. i've been involved in the charity world for the last ten i knew. i've been involved in the i charity world for the last ten plus years _ charity world for the last ten plus years i_ charity world for the last ten plus years i got — charity world for the last ten plus years i got a _ charity world for the last ten plus years i got a lot— charity world for the last ten plus years. i got a lot of— charity world for the last ten plus years. i got a lot of help, - charity world for the last ten plus years. i got a lot of help, me - charity world for the last ten plus years. i got a lot of help, me and my family— years. i got a lot of help, me and my family got _ years. i got a lot of help, me and my family got a _ years. i got a lot of help, me and my family got a lot _ years. i got a lot of help, me and my family got a lot of— years. i got a lot of help, me and my family got a lot of support - years. i got a lot of help, me and i my family got a lot of support from many— my family got a lot of support from many different _ my family got a lot of support from many different charities _ my family got a lot of support from many different charities after - my family got a lot of support from many different charities after being injured _ many different charities after being injured and — many different charities after being injured and it_ many different charities after being injured. and itjust _ many different charities after being injured. and itjust kind _ many different charities after being injured. and itjust kind of- many different charities after being injured. and itjust kind of feels- injured. and itjust kind of feels part of— injured. and itjust kind of feels part of my— injured. and itjust kind of feels part of my calling, _ injured. and itjust kind of feels part of my calling, if— injured. and itjust kind of feels part of my calling, if you - injured. and itjust kind of feels part of my calling, if you like, l part of my calling, if you like, just— part of my calling, if you like, just to — part of my calling, if you like, just to do _ part of my calling, if you like, just to do what _ part of my calling, if you like, just to do what i _ part of my calling, if you like, just to do what i can - part of my calling, if you like, just to do what i can to - part of my calling, if you like, just to do what i can to give . part of my calling, if you like, - just to do what i can to give back. i am _ just to do what i can to give back. i am always— just to do what i can to give back. i am always trying _ just to do what i can to give back. i am always trying to _ just to do what i can to give back. i am always trying to progress - i am always trying to progress myself — i am always trying to progress myself in _ i am always trying to progress myself in my— i am always trying to progress myself in my recovery - i am always trying to progress myself in my recovery and - i am always trying to progress myself in my recovery and in i i am always trying to progress . myself in my recovery and in my life, _ myself in my recovery and in my life. and — myself in my recovery and in my life. and if— myself in my recovery and in my life. and if i_ myself in my recovery and in my life, and if i can— myself in my recovery and in my life, and if i can tie _ myself in my recovery and in my life, and if i can tie the - myself in my recovery and in my life, and if i can tie the two - life, and if i can tie the two together, _ life, and if i can tie the two together, by— life, and if i can tie the two together, by doing - life, and if i can tie the two i together, by doing something life, and if i can tie the two - together, by doing something i don't like to— together, by doing something i don't like to do. _ together, by doing something i don't like to do. that — together, by doing something i don't like to do, that is _ together, by doing something i don't like to do, that is going _ together, by doing something i don't like to do, that is going to _ together, by doing something i don't like to do, that is going to be - like to do, that is going to be challenged. _ like to do, that is going to be challenged, and _ like to do, that is going to be challenged, and raise - like to do, that is going to be challenged, and raise some i like to do, that is going to be - challenged, and raise some money in the process, — challenged, and raise some money in the process, it — challenged, and raise some money in the process, it is _ challenged, and raise some money in the process, it is a _ challenged, and raise some money in the process, it is a win— challenged, and raise some money in the process, it is a win — _ challenged, and raise some money in the process, it is a win — win- challenged, and raise some money in the process, it is a win — win for- the process, it is a win — win for everybody _ the process, it is a win - win for everybody-— everybody. mark you are an inspiration. _ everybody. mark you are an inspiration. you _ everybody. mark you are an inspiration. you are - everybody. mark you are an inspiration. you are just - everybody. mark you are an inspiration. you are just up| everybody. mark you are an l inspiration. you are just up to 78.000 — inspiration. you are just up to 78,000 now. let's see where that ends _ 78,000 now. let's see where that ends up _ 78,000 now. let's see where that ends up at — 78,000 now. let's see where that ends up at the end of the morning. you are _ ends up at the end of the morning. you are ready to go. get yourself sorted _ you are ready to go. get yourself sorted all— you are ready to go. get yourself sorted. all the very best. we can see ben, — sorted. all the very best. we can see ben, the coach looking after market. — see ben, the coach looking after market. irr— see ben, the coach looking after market, in the background. just taking _ market, in the background. just taking his — market, in the background. just taking his coat, getting ready to lo. taking his coat, getting ready to go we — taking his coat, getting ready to go. we think it'll take probably around — go. we think it'll take probably around an— go. we think it'll take probably around an hourand go. we think it'll take probably around an hour and a quarter. 12 laps— around an hour and a quarter. 12 laps of— around an hour and a quarter. 12 laps ofthe— around an hour and a quarter. 12 laps of the running track. and they will be _ laps of the running track. and they will be times at which mark will need _ will be times at which mark will need two — will be times at which mark will need two poles to change his prosthetics. just to adjust them really. — prosthetics. just to adjust them really, because as you can imagine, above _ really, because as you can imagine, above the _ really, because as you can imagine, above the knee amputee, so they do take some _ above the knee amputee, so they do take some adjusting as he runs around — take some adjusting as he runs around. he is going to be setting off any— around. he is going to be setting off any minute. i am sure you will come _ off any minute. i am sure you will come track— off any minute. i am sure you will come back to us later on when hopefully— come back to us later on when hopefully we will see one very tired but very— hopefully we will see one very tired but very satisfied mark 0rmerod. —— mark— but very satisfied mark 0rmerod. —— mark 0rmrod. we but very satisfied mark 0rmerod. -- mark ormrod-— mark ormrod. we definitely will, john. we will _ mark ormrod. we definitely will, john. we will talk _ mark ormrod. we definitely will, john. we will talk to _ mark ormrod. we definitely will, john. we will talk to you - mark ormrod. we definitely will, john. we will talk to you later. . john. we will talk to you later. best of luck tomorrow. he is one of those people that absolutely no doubt it is going to happen, no matter how hard the chance. we will catch up with them later. time now to get the news, travel and weather where you are. good morning from bbc london. organisers of a vigil for sarah everard say they're seeking a high court appeal after police said the event couldn't go ahead due to covid restrictions. members of the group reclaim these streets were planning to meet on saturday evening in clapham, close to where the 33—year—old went missing. they claim police allowed the gathering to take place, but then said they'd receive fines if it went ahead. a met spokesperson said they remain in discussion with organisers in light of current covid regulations. new figures have shown that cancer referrals and treatments have dropped again in london. january saw around 7,000 fewer londoners see a cancer specialist following an urgent gp referral since the same time last year. and 600 fewer people have started their treatment — that's a drop of 18%. the london marathon trust celebrates its 40th anniversary this weekend. it's delivered more than £93m in funding to sports projects throughout its lifetime, the most recent being a bmx track in harrow. it opened in october and has been allowed to stay open during lockdown as a play facility. opening a track like this really puts bmx—ing and biking in generaljust out there. but i see lots of my friends here, and i'm still allowed to see them, given, obviously, covid regulations. and i think it provides an exercise which, i think, is very difficult to get nowadays. let's take a look at the travel situation now. over—running engineering works at streatham means that there are cancellations and delays on southern services between clapham junction and sutton and on thameslink services between blackfriars and tooting. westgate street is closed in both directions between mare street and sheep lane due to water mains repairs. now the weather with kate kinsella. good morning. it's going to be another blustery day today. the wind perhaps not quite as strong as it was yesterday morning, but still it is fairly fresh. so, showers mixed in there as well. we'll see one or two of those first thing this morning, moving away on the breeze, however. still a risk in the afternoon, but some bright spells, some sunny spells. the temperature reaching 11 celsius, but factor in that wind and it is going to feel a little chillier. overnight tonight, again we are going to see further showers. the wind, in fact, strengthens as we head through tonight into tomorrow morning, pushing towards us some more prolonged spells of rain through the early hours. gusts of wind, a0 to 45 mph, widely. temperatures overnight between four and six celsius. as we head into the weekend, it is going to be quite breezy tomorrow, that rain clearing first thing. dry with sunny spells in the afternoon. again, temperatures remain similar. similar conditions for sunday, but the windfall is a little bit lighter. into next week, high pressure starts to move in, so the weather becomes a little more settled. i'm back with the latest from the bbc london newsroom in half an hour. plenty more on our website at the usual address. now, though, it's back to charlie and naga. bye for now. good morning, welcome to breakfast with charlie stayt and naga munchetty. our headlines today. "kind, thoughtful, caring and dependable." the family of sarah everard pay tribute as a police officer continues to be questioned over her murder. calls to "reclaim the streets" as the case sparks anger over the safety of women in the uk. i've never felt safe walking alone at night. as soon as the sun sets, it's a little bit scarier, a little bit more intense. prince william insists the royal family is not racist in response to claims made during meghan and harry's oprah winfey interview. good morning. economic growth fell byjust under 3% at the start of the year as the third national lockdown took hold. the economy is just under 10% smaller than before all this began. a dream first goal for diallo — manchester united's new teenage signing is the star with a stunner in the europa league, before they let in a late equaliser against ac milan. and ever changing skies across the uk. heavy thundery showers around, bit of sunshine but that means the lovely spectacle of if few rainbows. i will have your full forecast. it's friday march the 12th. our top story. the family of sarah everard has paid tribute, describing her as a "shining example to us all" who "brought so much joy to our lives". a serving metropolitan police officer is still being held on suspicion of murdering the 33—year—old. the force has referred itself to the police watchdog over how it investigated a separate allegation that the same officer indecently exposed himselfjust three days before sarah went missing. charlotte wright has the latest developments. bright and beautiful, a wonderful daughter and sister. words from the family of 33—year—old sarah everard, who went missing in south london more than a week ago. last night, her loved ones released this tribute, after human remains were discovered in the search for her. this morning, a serving met police diplomatic protection officer remains in custody, suspected of kidnap and murder. he was arrested in kent on tuesday. yesterday, he was taken to hospital after suffering a head injury while in custody. officers have now been granted more time to question him. just three days before sarah disappeared, police received a report alleging the suspect had exposed himself in a fast—food restaurant. now the police watchdog has announced it will investigate whether officers responded to that appropriately. it will also separately assess the actions of police after sarah was reported missing. at the site of the discovery of human remains, police officers laid flowers brought by the public. sarah's death has prompted an outpouring of shock and anger, as women across the country share their own experiences of feeling unsafe. but for now, her family have made a simple appeal for anyone with information to come forward. charlotte wright, bbc news. in a moment we'll speak to charlotte at new scotland yard but first let's get the latest on the investigation with simonjones in ashford, in kent, where the search is taking place. what is taking place. can you tell us from what the police what can you tell us from what the police are doing there?— police are doing there? there is a really sombre _ police are doing there? there is a really sombre mood _ police are doing there? there is a really sombre mood here - police are doing there? there is a really sombre mood here this - really sombre mood here this morning. i think the enormity of what has happened over the past few daysis what has happened over the past few days is really starting to sink in. the human remains discovered in the woodland behind me have yet to be formally identified but nevertheless the family of sarah right issued that statement last night and reading it you get a real sense of their loss. they talk about her being kind and caring, bright and beautiful. they also go out of their way to praise the metropolitan police for the way they are carrying out this investigation and appealing to people to bring any information that they might have to the table, saying however insignificant they might think it is, it might actually be vital. and certainly the investigation here at the site has been continuing at pace. resort diving teams in yesterday, sniffer dogs. there were portable cabins brought in. it appears they are going to be here for some time to come and they... suspect one of their own officers. come and they. .. suspect one of their own officers.— charlotte wright is at new scotland yard. charlotte, the murder investigation continues but the met police itself is also under scrutiny. yes, they are facing some serious questions as they continue with their investigation. they will be investigated themselves. it is after it emerged that the suspect had been accused of indecent exposure three days before sarah went missing. we know that two officers are now being investigated by the independent office for police conduct over there response to that accusation. it is one of five investigations being conducted by the police watchdog, the others include looking at how the others include looking at how the met responded to the first reports that sarah had gone missing. also help the suspect sustained an injury while in custody. now i think this is something that really has caused a lot of people to react, you know, a lot of people have reacted quite viscerally to the news over the past few days, the past week or so. a number of people have said they want to organise a vigil in sarah's name. people have been planning that south london, saturday evening, but we are told they have been told that they cannot go ahead with the vigil, despite the fact they said it would be socially distanced. of course the lockdown bills means that large gatherings can be broken up by the police and people can receive pretty hefty fines. —— check out lockdown rules. these people who have been told they cannot organises vigil, they say they are going to the high court and they are going to the high court and they are going to the high court and they are going to challenge the met�*s interpretation of coronavirus restrictions. it shows the strength of feeling out there at the moment. thank you very much. wales will begin to ease its lockdown rules from this weekend, to allow more mixing between households, indoor care home visits and outdoor sports. hairdressers and barbers can also reopen from monday, but non—essential retail will stay closed until march 22. our correspondent mark hutchings has more. as shopping experiences go, it's not a bad setting. but the high streets of rural monmouthshire are just as desperate as city centres to get back into full trading. since the december lockdown, tommy brooks has swapped hairdressing for a temporaryjob, cleaning on a building site. he's ready to reopen, almost as keen to get customers back through the door as they are to get a haircut. going off last time what we did was we actually contacted all clients. so we'll probably do the same again and rebook them in order. but from the last experience, the first week back i could have probablyjust had someone full—time on the phone, because the phone was just nonstop. obviously everyone is desperate for a professional haircut at the moment. it is a rather mixed bag of news from the welsh government. from tomorrow, stay at home becomes stay local. the guidance is five miles, though those in rural areas are afforded more leeway. four people from two households can socialise outdoors, including gardens. on monday, hairdressers return. and from march the 22nd, those shops already open, such as supermarkets, can sell nonessential items. but it won't be until april 12 that all other shops and close contact services can open. hello, there. click and collect. those clicking, then collecting are helping things tick over, but only just. for most traders here, as elsewhere, christmas came and went rather early. so they'd rather like springtime to be the season to celebrate. mark hutchings, bbc news, abergavenny. scotland is relaxing some covid restrictions from today. up to four people from two households will now be able to meet up outside. our scotland correspondent lorna gordon is in glasgow for us this morning. quite a few changes happening around the uk. take us through what is changing in upland good morning. i think the pace here in scotland is a little slower than we have just heard of what is happening in wales but it comes down to this. from this morning, more people are able to morning, more people are able tr: socialise outdoors. for people from those households that you mention, able to socialise —— four people able to socialise —— four people able to socialise in back gardens. they are able to use the toilet if they need to, able to travel through they need to, able to travel through the house to get to back gardens. four teenagers from no, no house of limits. they can socialise. really important for them. there is an easing of the restrictions on outdoor exercise. groups of up to 15 can exercise from this morning. so expect the group taking part in a boot camp in this park in glasgow in a little over an hour, an hour and a half. restrictions still remain in place here in scotland. the rule is still to remain at home as much as possible and also not to travel. but we do expect more indicative dates for other e—zines in areas like hospitality and shops to come next week. ., ~ hospitality and shops to come next week. . ,, , ., hospitality and shops to come next week. ., ~' , ., , hospitality and shops to come next week. . ,, i. , . hospitality and shops to come next week. ., ~ , ., , . ., week. thank you very much -- more easinus. in the last few minutes, some new figures have been released which show how the uk economy fared in january. ben's in london with the details. what i these figures, what i initially? what i these figures, what i initiall ? ., ., what i these figures, what i initiall ? ., , , initially? good morning. no surprise when ou initially? good morning. no surprise when you talk— initially? good morning. no surprise when you talk about _ initially? good morning. no surprise when you talk about lockdown - when you talk about lockdown restrictions across the country. we have had the latest economic growth figures and they tell us how the uk as a whole injanuary. no great surprise the economy shrank by nearly 3% for that month when the uk was in that third national lockdown and therefore most of the economy was forced to grind to a halt. what is interesting in these figures, it tells us where has been most susceptible to a slowdown and let me talk you through the numbers because the service sector is shrinking by 3.5%. manufacturing shrinking by 2.3%. manufacturing, the first shrinkage there since april of last year and we shrinkage there since april of last yearand we are shrinkage there since april of last year and we are told that is because carmaking slowed pretty significantly. giving us a sense of what the economy is doing as it readjust to this new normal. the economy nearly 10% smaller still thanit economy nearly 10% smaller still than it was before all of this began. what is also interesting this morning, we have had a snapshot of trade figures. what trade the uk is doing with the rest of the world and remember this is coming after the end of the transition period as far as brexit is concerned. trade with the eu taking a significant hit, down by 40% with the eu. for exports thatis down by 40% with the eu. for exports that is worth about £5.6 billion. imports, with about £6.5 billion. there could be a number of reasons for that. one of them, border delays. we have seen the queues at ports. one could also be that many of us stockpiled before the deadline, making sure enough stock was in the warehouse so they didn't get caught up with problems in january. nonetheless, a significant move, trade with the eu down by 40% in january. the move, trade with the eu down by 40% injanuary. the overall economy shrinking by nearly 3% injanuary as the third national lockdown took hold. ., ~' the third national lockdown took hold. . ~ , ., the time is coming up to 7:15am, 7:13am to be precise. matt has the weather with a very precise picture and a gorgeous rainbow. goad and a gorgeous rainbow. good morning- _ and a gorgeous rainbow. good morning- we _ and a gorgeous rainbow. good morning. we have _ and a gorgeous rainbow. good morning. we have the - and a gorgeous rainbow. (13cm morning. we have the rainbow pictures coming in from weather watchers. more scenes like this to come across the uk today. a mix of sunshine and heavy and thundery showers, some hail mix in and of fairly blustery wind. something waterproof, something warm it to wear out there today. this is when showers have been so fine this morning. the white indicates the hail and also some sleet and snow over higher ground. so far some parts of eastern england have not fared too badly. same for the north—east of scotland. showers are on the move eastwards and we will see the show is pushed through eastern parts as we go through the coming hours. but then sunshine will follow and quite a bit of dry and bright weatherfor follow and quite a bit of dry and bright weather for england and wales. showers keep going in the west and the breeze will still be with us. temperatures down a bit yesterday, six to 9 degrees. this is when the sunshine comes out, when the sun is not there and you are in the shower, the temperatures were take a tumble. you will notice degrees. not as strong as yesterday but still gusting to gale force along the english channel coast. blustery elsewhere. the afternoon largely dry across eastern parts of england and the north—east of scotland. stamp to end the day in the west and all of us will see showers tonight, actually start tomorrow and sunshine and showers for the weekend._ for the weekend. thank you very much. for the weekend. thank you very much- see _ for the weekend. thank you very much- see you _ for the weekend. thank you very much. see you later. _ the welsh government will ease some of its lockdown rules from this weekend, to allow more mixing between households, indoor care home visits and outdoor sports. scientists have recently warned the country is on a knife edge and easing restrictions too quickly could lead to the growth of covid—19. let's talk more about this to wales first minister, mark drakeford. thank you very much for your time this morning. probably worth first of all for you to outline the significant changes that will affect people's a day to day lives coming up people's a day to day lives coming up immediately. the people's a day to day lives coming up immediately.— people's a day to day lives coming up immediately. the 'ourney out of lockdown begins _ up immediately. the 'ourney out of lockdown begins in — up immediately. the journey out of lockdown begins in earnest - up immediately. the journey out of lockdown begins in earnest in - up immediately. the journey out of| lockdown begins in earnest in wales this weekend. four people from two households will be able to meet outdoors for any purpose and will be able to meet in gardens, which i know will be very widely dated. from monday, hairdressers and barbers will be able to resume work. from the 22nd of march, shops that are already open will be able to sell the full range of goods available there, and provided numbers continue to improve, then on the 29th of march we will reopen self—contained accommodation so that people in wales will be able to go into the caravans, have a few days away. we will end the stay at home rule this weekend and move to a state local regime for an interim period, and again hope to be able to go beyond that at the end of march. all of that, of course, depending upon the numbers in wales, which are in good at the moment, provided they continue to improve.— at the moment, provided they continue to improve. let's go to a cou - le continue to improve. let's go to a coule of continue to improve. let's go to a couple of those _ continue to improve. let's go to a couple of those issues. _ continue to improve. let's go to a couple of those issues. what - continue to improve. let's go to a i couple of those issues. what exactly is state local, what does that mean in terms of mileage? the is state local, what does that mean in terms of mileage?— in terms of mileage? the rule of thumb we _ in terms of mileage? the rule of thumb we used _ in terms of mileage? the rule of thumb we used last _ in terms of mileage? the rule of thumb we used last year - in terms of mileage? the rule of thumb we used last year and - in terms of mileage? the rule of. thumb we used last year and people became very used to was that you should think of local as a five mile radius from where you are. of course if you live in white dispersed communities, in ruralwales, if you live in white dispersed communities, in rural wales, where valley communities, then people exercisejudgment in valley communities, then people exercise judgment in their own circumstances and can go a bit further. if circumstances and can go a bit further. . . , , further. if i live in wales but close to _ further. if i live in wales but close to the _ further. if i live in wales but close to the border - further. if i live in wales but close to the border with - further. if i live in wales but - close to the border with england, five miles could well take me into england. are there any changes in terms of regulation around travelling in and out of wales? well, the prime minister's road map is very clear. on the 29th of march when we begin to reopen our tourism industry at the instruction in england will still be to state local and not to stay overnight away from home. so at that point people in wales will be able to travel for holiday purposes but the rules in england will preclude people from coming over the border. flan england will preclude people from coming over the border. cant england will preclude people from coming over the border. can i ask, ou coming over the border. can i ask, you mentioned... _ coming over the border. can i ask, you mentioned... this _ coming over the border. can i ask, you mentioned... this is _ coming over the border. can i ask, you mentioned... this is very - you mentioned... this is very relevant to people's day—to—day lives. you can go to your next—door neighbour's garden, limited numbers, the rule of four, children are exempt from that. can you for example go into your neighbour's houseif example go into your neighbour's house if you need a glass of water or use the toilet? these are the kinds of questions people will want to know officially what the rules are. . . , , . are. the rule in wales will be that in many parts _ are. the rule in wales will be that in many parts of _ are. the rule in wales will be that in many parts of wales _ are. the rule in wales will be that in many parts of wales the - are. the rule in wales will be that in many parts of wales the only . in many parts of wales the only access to a garden is through the house, so people can go through the house, so people can go through the house and into the garden. once you are in the garden you should stay there. it is not a reason for being able to use the facilities of the house, to go indoors. we know that being outdoors is far safer. this is permission for people to meet outdoors in considerably more relaxed circumstances, and i know people will want to take advantage of it, but you should not go indoors, only for access to the rear of the gardener.— indoors, only for access to the rear of the gardener. some people, you talk about the _ of the gardener. some people, you talk about the timeline, _ of the gardener. some people, you talk about the timeline, in - of the gardener. some people, you talk about the timeline, in wales . of the gardener. some people, you talk about the timeline, in wales it j talk about the timeline, in wales it is the case that secondary school pupils, years seven, eight and nine, i'm not going into routine school until after easter —— they are not going into routine school until after easter and as of this weekend you can get your hair cut. people were under the impression that the priority was to get schools open first. so how is it that you have come up with the equation the other way around?— way around? schools are our top riori , way around? schools are our top priority. getting _ way around? schools are our top priority, getting young _ way around? schools are our top priority, getting young people i way around? schools are our top | priority, getting young people and children back into face—to—face education is top of our list but the advice to us was very clear. you should do it in stages, you should not bring all children back to school on the same day. that is too great a risk. so we already have about 40% of children in wales back into school. that number will go up considerably on monday when all primary school children, all examination students in secondary school, will be back, and everybody else will follow on the 12th of april. in three staged moves, retaining children to education. that is the safe way to do it, that is what we have agreed with our teaching unions and local education authority. and in the meantime it gives us a bit of headroom to do some other modest things, the reopening of hairdressers and barbers, the return of visits to care homes, allowing pete walker people from two households to meet more outdoors —— allowing four people. that is the balance have struck. a phased return to school, a phased return to business and personal life.— phased return to business and ersonal life. . . ., personal life. can i ask you to cast further forward? _ personal life. can i ask you to cast further forward? grant _ personal life. can i ask you to cast further forward? grant shapps - personal life. can i ask you to cast further forward? grant shapps has furtherforward? grant shapps has talked about britain's possibly being able to take foreign holidays. the only date is may 17. does that correspond with what you think is the great principle timetable? —— talked about britons being able to take foreign holidays are. you certainly will _ take foreign holidays are. you certainly will not _ take foreign holidays are. you certainly will not be _ take foreign holidays are. ym. certainly will not be able to do it any earlier in wales. i have anxieties about the resumption of foreign travel as early as the 17th of may. september it wales was a difficult month because we have people coming back to wales from france, germany, italy, spain, bulgaria, turkey, you name it. bringing the virus with them. that led to a difficult month for us in september. i do not want to see all the hard work that people in wales have put in over recent weeks being undermined by the reimportation of the virus. share undermined by the reimportation of the virus. . , ., undermined by the reimportation of the virus. �* ,, undermined by the reimportation of the virus. . , undermined by the reimportation of thevirus.�* , the virus. are you saying sorry, can i ask the virus. are you saying sorry, can i ask you. — the virus. are you saying sorry, can i ask you. to _ the virus. are you saying sorry, can i ask you. to be _ the virus. are you saying sorry, can i ask you, to be specific, _ the virus. are you saying sorry, can i ask you, to be specific, are - the virus. are you saying sorry, can i ask you, to be specific, are you i i ask you, to be specific, are you saying that that may 17th date at the earliest is irresponsible, it is too soon, it shouldn't be talked about? i too soon, it shouldn't be talked about? ., �* , , about? i don't call it irresponsible and the prime _ about? i don't call it irresponsible and the prime minister's - about? i don't call it irresponsible and the prime minister's wrote i about? i don't call it irresponsible l and the prime minister's wrote back for england is very clear that these are indicative dates and when i raised this with uk ministers they always emphasised that the decision would be made in the circumstances are much closer to the time. i am saying that, for me, that does look early and i would want to be completely confident that we are not running the risk of the reimportation of the virus, particularly now that we know there are new variants of this virus in other parts of the world. so the 17th of may is a long way off, government ministers assured us it will be carefully thought out at the time and if there is any risk, we would be throwing away all the hard work that we have done, i hope that that date will be considered very, very carefully. find that date will be considered very, very carefully-— that date will be considered very, very carefully. and want to ask you one other question _ very carefully. and want to ask you one other question away _ very carefully. and want to ask you one other question away from - very carefully. and want to ask you i one other question away from covid. you will be well aware, i'm sure this is a conversation taking place in households across the uk, about women and safety in relation to recent events. ijust women and safety in relation to recent events. i just wonder whether you, as first minister of wales, how do you calibrate the scale of the problem, given the conversations that are taking place between women, between women and men as well, about just how scared i am a routine basis women feel in the world we live in and what, if anything, do you think is the role of governments in that? well, i absolutely think we must take that very seriously. we changed our rules in wales are exercised backin our rules in wales are exercised back in the depths of winter because women were telling us they did not feel safe exercising outdoors in the cold and dark and we have allowed two people to exercise it for that reason. the role of government, i think, is to take practical actions that give people confidence that their safety is always at the top of our agenda and that we are always looking for those differences we can make alongside them so that people are safe and just as importantly the people feel safe in going about their everyday lives. fin people feel safe in going about their everyday lives.— people feel safe in going about their everyday lives. on that note, some people _ their everyday lives. on that note, some people have _ their everyday lives. on that note, some people have said _ their everyday lives. on that note, j some people have said sometimes their everyday lives. on that note, - some people have said sometimes that it they are in an area particularly where there are concerns that women may be being assaulted or feeling particularly scared, that there should be a curfew on men for a period of time. is that something you would consider? it period of time. is that something you would consider?— period of time. is that something you would consider? it would not be at the to - you would consider? it would not be at the top of — you would consider? it would not be at the top of the _ you would consider? it would not be at the top of the list _ you would consider? it would not be at the top of the list of _ you would consider? it would not be at the top of the list of things - you would consider? it would not be at the top of the list of things we . at the top of the list of things we would consider because it would be at the very best a temporary intervention.— at the very best a temporary intervention. i'm sorry, to be clear, intervention. i'm sorry, to be clear. are — intervention. i'm sorry, to be clear, are you _ intervention. i'm sorry, to be clear, are you saying... - intervention. i'm sorry, to be clear, are you saying... it - intervention. i'm sorry, to be clear, are you saying... it is. intervention. i'm sorry, to be i clear, are you saying... it is not the top of your list. i can only take from that that you could not rule out that being potentially something that you would do. if something that you would do. if there were a crisis and you needed to take dramatic action that allowed that crisis to be drawn down, then of course you would be prepared to consider all measures that would make a difference, but the sort of measure, the curfew measure you described, it can only ever be a temporary answer and therefore it is not of the top of our list, there are other things we can do and should do, and we will work hard with our third sector organisations or at local authorities in wales. as i say, people need to be safe and to feel safe and that is absolutely the sort of society we wish to create here in wales.— sort of society we wish to create here in wales. n, ,, , . ,, ., ., ., here in wales. mark drakeford, good to talk to you. _ here in wales. mark drakeford, good to talk to you, thank _ here in wales. mark drakeford, good to talk to you, thank you _ here in wales. mark drakeford, good to talk to you, thank you very - here in wales. mark drakeford, good to talk to you, thank you very much. | to talk to you, thank you very much. mark drakeford is the first minister of wales are. mark drakeford is the first minister of wales are-— mark drakeford is the first minister of wales are._ 7:25am i mark drakeford is the first minister of wales are._ 7:25am is | of wales are. thank you. 7:25am is the time. prince william has made his first comments on the royal race row following the controversial interview by the duke and duchess of sussex over the weekend. asked whether he had spoken to prince harry since the oprah interview, prince william said he hadn't yet — let's take a look. reporter: have you spoken - to your brother since the interview? no, i haven't spoken to him yet, but i will do. can you just let me know, is the royal family a racist family, sir? we're very much not a racist family. let's get more on this with roya nikkhah, royal correspondent for the sunday times. good morning. sit pretty much as expected from prince william? j expected from prince william? i thought it was actually quite unusual he took that question. normally when we love just like that quite often they pretend they don't here and carry on walking —— normally when we every questions. he felt strongly that they needed to be something on record following statement from his grandmother which was very measured. the future king is having to defend his family against allegations of racism, this shows you how deeply concerning and damaging that oprah interview was. also commented that he hadn't yet spoken to prince harry, is that surprising, his brother? i spoken to prince harry, is that surprising, his brother?- spoken to prince harry, is that surprising, his brother? i have to sa no.| surprising, his brother? i have to say no- i have — surprising, his brother? i have to say no. i have reported _ surprising, his brother? i have to say no. i have reported and - surprising, his brother? i have to l say no. i have reported and several of my colleagues have reported for a long time about the state of the relationship. it is incredibly sad. but going back to a year ago and before, the nature of howt har even before, the nature of how harry and makin left the uk —— marco harry and makin left the uk —— marco harry and meghan, stepping back as working royals, it has caused damage. that interview with all those bombshells dropping, as someone said this week, exploding a bomb under yourfamily, has done nothing to help heal the wounds of that relationship. it is very sad. wounds of that relationship. it is ve sad. . wounds of that relationship. it is ve sad. , , ., very sad. given we 'ust saw that moment. — very sad. given we 'ust saw that moment. the h very sad. given we 'ust saw that moment, the duke]— very sad. given we just saw that moment, the duke of _ very sad. given we just saw that| moment, the duke of cambridge responding to a question asked as he passed by. the royalfamily has said that whatever investigations and discussions will take place within the family. a lot of people said at the family. a lot of people said at the time it was unrealistic. do you think that remains the case,, inevitably, if we are not told anything, that people will carry on asking the questions? i anything, that people will carry on asking the questions?— anything, that people will carry on asking the questions? i think, yes, ou are asking the questions? i think, yes, you are right- _ asking the questions? i think, yes, you are right. whereas _ asking the questions? i think, yes, you are right. whereas -- - asking the questions? i think, yes, you are right. whereas -- it - asking the questions? i think, yes, you are right. whereas -- it is - asking the questions? i think, yes, you are right. whereas -- it is the | you are right. whereas —— it is the queen's very firm wish that this is handled by the family within the family, but it is difficult. we had a statement on tuesday evening and she made it very clear that things were concerning, she wanted to address them in the family but it should be done privately. then the next morning we had one of makin macro friends on —— one of meghan 's friends saying she was talking with her blessing on that show, addressing the line in the queens statement, recollections may vary, and she went on record to say she was challenging that, saying regulations that macro recollections don't vary. when you have about what is going on, what the queen wishes and mood music from across the pond that that is not what they want to happen, it is quite difficult to keep all private.— happen, it is quite difficult to keep all private. roya nikkhah, thank ou keep all private. roya nikkhah, thank you very _ keep all private. roya nikkhah, thank you very much. _ keep all private. roya nikkhah, thank you very much. tim - keep all private. roya nikkhah, i thank you very much. tim macrow keep all private. roya nikkhah, - thank you very much. tim macrow is the royal correspondent for the sunday times. time now to get the news, travel and weather where you are. good morning from bbc london, i'm victoria hollins. organisers of a vigil for sarah everard say they're seeking a high court appeal after police said the event couldn't go ahead due to covid restrictions. members of the group reclaim these streets were planning to meet on saturday evening in clapham, close to where the 33—year—old went missing. they claim police allowed the gathering to take place, but then said they'd receive fines if it went ahead. a met spokesperson said they remain in discussion with organisers in light of current covid regulations. new figures have shown that cancer referrals and treatments have dropped again in london. january saw around 7,000 fewer londoners see a cancer specialist following an urgent gp referral, since the same time last year. and 600 fewer people have started their treatment that's a drop of 18%. the london marathon trust celebrates its 40th anniversary this weekend. it's delivered more than £93 million in funding to sports projects throughout its lifetime, the most recent being a bmx track in harrow. it opened in october and has been allowed to stay open during lockdown as a play facility. opening a track like this really puts bmx—ing and biking in generaljust out there. but i see lots of my friends here, and i'm still allowed to see them, given, obviously, covid regulations. and i think it provides an exercise which, i think, is very difficult to get nowadays. let's take a look at the travel situation now. there's a good service on the tubes this morning — minor delays on london overground. traffic is queuing on the a102 woolwich road into town towards the blackwall tunnel. in hackney, westgate street is closed in both directions between mare street and sheep lane due to water mains repairs. in enfield, two lanes are blocked on a10 great cambridge road northbound at the junction with carterhatch lane for traffic lights repairs. now the weather with kate kinsella. good morning. it's going to be another blustery day today. the wind perhaps not quite as strong as it was yesterday morning, but still it is fairly fresh. so, showers mixed in there as well. we'll see one or two of those first thing this morning, moving away on the breeze, however. still a risk in the afternoon, but some bright spells, some sunny spells. the temperature reaching 11 celsius, but factor in that wind and it is going to feel a little chillier. overnight tonight, again we are going to see further showers. the wind, in fact, strengthens as we head through tonight into tomorrow morning, pushing towards us some more prolonged spells of rain through the early hours. gusts of wind, a0 to 45 mph, widely. temperatures overnight between four and six celsius. as we head into the weekend, it is going to be quite breezy tomorrow, that rain clearing first thing. dry with sunny spells in the afternoon. again, temperatures remain similar. similar conditions for sunday, but the windfalls a little bit lighter. into next week, high pressure starts to move in, so the weather becomes a little more settled. i'm back with the latest from the bbc london newsroom in an hour. plenty more on our website at the usual address. bye for now. hello, this is breakfast with charlie stayt and naga munchetty. the metropolitan police has referred itself to the police watchdog over its handling of an allegation of indecent exposure by the officer who is now being held on suspicion of murdering sarah everard. the alleged incident took place just three days before the 33—year—old went missing while walking home in south london last week. last night sarah's family paid tribute to her as a "shining example to us all" who "brought so much joy to our lives". wales will begin to ease its lockdown rules from this weekend, to allow more mixing this between households, indoor care home visits and outdoor sports. hairdressers and barbers can also reopen from monday, but non—essential retail will stay closed until march 22. the welsh first minister, mark drakeford, will give a more detailed timetable for easing other restrictions — including tourism — later today. covid restriction will be relaxed in scotland from today. up to four people from two households will be able to meet up outside, while up to 15 people can exercise together outside. first minister nicola sturgeon says the new rules are possible because of what she calls "good progress" in suppressing the virus. the government is to hold a public inquiry to examine whether to give the go ahead to a controversial new coal mine in cumbria. the local council had backed the proposal, which supporters argue could create hundreds ofjobs, but environmentalists say the development would damage the uk's reputation in the run up to a major un climate summit in glasgow later this year. 25 minutes to eight. good morning, mike. 25 minutes to eight. good morning, mike- good — 25 minutes to eight. good morning, mike. good morning. _ 25 minutes to eight. good morning, mike. good morning. some - 25 minutes to eight. good morning, i mike. good morning. some frustrated —looking manchester united defender is there. they lead in an away goal. the first goal the lead in in more than 500 minutes. sometimes the concentration goes and a little laps. it could cost them. still the second leg against ac milan to go. of the four british clubs trying to reach the europa league quarterfinals, manchester united now face the biggest challenge, after conceding a rare goal right at the end last night against ac milan. first though, lets focus on the positive news for united. the performance of their new teenage signing, amad diallo, scoring his first united goal. he's only 18, and was signed from atalanta injanuary, and showed his quality with that brilliant header. it looked to be enough, but in the 90th minute, united let in a first goal in five matches, and ac milan now have an away goal, which makes for an interesting return leg in italy next thursday. we know we have to travel down there and score a goal and win the game, so... or score two and draw, so... of course it makes it more difficult always when you concede at home — you're never happy when you do. of course one minute before full time is also a disappointing time, but we've got to take that on the chin and just travel down there next week and go for it. it was all about harry kane for spurs in their 2—0 home win, over dinamo zagreb. tottenham made seven changes for the match, but starting kane was never in doubt, and he had another brilliant game, scoring both goals to give them a comfortable cushion going into the second leg in croatia next week. the result of the night award goes to arsenal, who are well placed to avoid a repeat of their exit at the hands of olympiakos last season. they won 3—1 in greece, mohammed elneny with the pick of those valuable, away goals. scottish champions rangers went a goal down very early on at slavia prague, but filip helander levelled — a vital away goal there for them. and in the final minute, allan mcgregor produced a great save to keep it at 1—1. manager steven gerrard is trying to persuade 39—year—old mcgregor to sign for another season. chelsea and manchester city will find out who they'll face in the quarter—finals of the women's champions league this morning. city reached the last eight by thrashing fiorentina 5—0 in italy. ellen white linked up with her england team—mate lauren hemp to score twice, and usa world cup winner sam mewis also bagged two goals, as they went through 8—0 on aggregate. you can't argue with that. pretty convincing. you can't argue with that. pretty convincing-— schools, colleges and universities can now apply for government funding to allow students to study abroad, as part of the post—brexit replacement of the student exchange programme. but the new scheme has faced some criticism — we're joined now by the universities minister michelle donelan. thank you very much forjoining us. we will get on to the turing scheme in a moment. i wonder if i can get your thoughts on the main story that we are covering and have been doing so for the last few days, it is the tragic case of sarah everard. we were talking to the first minister for wales, were talking to the first minister forwales, mark were talking to the first minister for wales, mark drakeford, and he made the point that the role of government is to take practical actions to make sure its people, its citizens, feel safe. today, as you are aware, as women voice their concerns, particularly about being in public spaces at night when it is dark, what practically should be being done right now to keep women safe? . being done right now to keep women safe? , ., . , �* safe? first of all, whilst i can't comment _ safe? first of all, whilst i can't comment on — safe? first of all, whilst i can't comment on the _ safe? first of all, whilst i can't comment on the individual- safe? first of all, whilst i can't l comment on the individual case, safe? first of all, whilst i can't i comment on the individual case, i safe? first of all, whilst i can't - comment on the individual case, i do want to— comment on the individual case, i do want to say— comment on the individual case, i do want to say that my heart goes out to all— want to say that my heart goes out to all of— want to say that my heart goes out to all of sarah's family and friends at this— to all of sarah's family and friends at this desperately tragic and awful time~ _ at this desperately tragic and awful time the — at this desperately tragic and awful time. the government have taken action— time. the government have taken action on— time. the government have taken action on this area. we committed 100 million— action on this area. we committed 100 million to violence against women — 100 million to violence against women and girls. we have also changed — women and girls. we have also changed the law so that it is an offence — changed the law so that it is an offence to— changed the law so that it is an offence to have forced marriage and revenge _ offence to have forced marriage and revenge porn. offence to have forced marriage and revenge porn-— revenge porn. sorry for interrupting. _ revenge porn. sorry for interrupting. this - revenge porn. sorry for. interrupting. this question revenge porn. sorry for- interrupting. this question is specifically about women feeling safe in public spaces, walking across a park at night, for example. what i was going to get onto is that there _ what i was going to get onto is that there is— what i was going to get onto is that there is more we can do, and that is why later— there is more we can do, and that is why later this — there is more we can do, and that is why later this year we will be publishing a strategy, a strategy of violence _ publishing a strategy, a strategy of violence against women and girls. that is— violence against women and girls. that is something we have been working — that is something we have been working on because we do recognise this needs _ working on because we do recognise this needs to be a focus. my reaction _ this needs to be a focus. my reaction to all of the media coverage over the last few days, listening — coverage over the last few days, listening to the hundreds of stories. _ listening to the hundreds of stories, thousands of stories about women _ stories, thousands of stories about women feeling unsafe, is that we do need to— women feeling unsafe, is that we do need to do— women feeling unsafe, is that we do need to do more. there was a statement _ need to do more. there was a statement by the home secretary yesterday pledging to make our streets — yesterday pledging to make our streets safe. we are on the way to our manifesto target of 20,000 additional police officers. this is not something the government is not listening _ not something the government is not listening to — not something the government is not listening to. far from it. we want our streets — listening to. far from it. we want our streets to be safe for everybody, men and women. can an hint everybody, men and women. can anything be _ everybody, men and women. carr anything be done today, in everybody, men and women. cari anything be done today, in practical terms? ., , anything be done today, in practical terms? . , . anything be done today, in practical terms? . . . , terms? so, as i have already said, there have — terms? so, as i have already said, there have been _ terms? so, as i have already said, there have been a _ terms? so, as i have already said, there have been a number- terms? so, as i have already said, there have been a number of- terms? so, as i have already said, l there have been a number of things we have _ there have been a number of things we have been doing, including the 100 million for violence against women — 100 million for violence against women and girls of services, our landmark— women and girls of services, our landmark domestic abuse bill is about— landmark domestic abuse bill is about to — landmark domestic abuse bill is about to get royal assent. we will be publishing our strategy shortly. and it _ be publishing our strategy shortly. and it is _ be publishing our strategy shortly. and it is important we continue to .et and it is important we continue to get -- _ and it is important we continue to get -- have— and it is important we continue to get —— have this debate over the next _ get —— have this debate over the next few— get —— have this debate over the next few days and the government listens _ next few days and the government listens as — next few days and the government listens. . , , , , listens. as universities minister, ou focus listens. as universities minister, you focus on _ listens. as universities minister, you focus on universities - listens. as universities minister, you focus on universities but - listens. as universities minister, j you focus on universities but you are very mindful of what is happening in education. would you propose, how would you propose education be improved in order to specifically make sure that women and girls feel safe, but also that both sexes are educated in that sense? .. ., _ , both sexes are educated in that sense? ., _, ., , �* sense? our education system doesn't reall do sense? our education system doesn't really do that. — sense? our education system doesn't really do that. it _ sense? our education system doesn't really do that, it is _ sense? our education system doesn't really do that, it is not _ sense? our education system doesn't really do that, it is notjust _ sense? our education system doesn't really do that, it is notjust about - really do that, it is not just about the academic side, it is about developing the character of an individual and how they can connect with others— individual and how they can connect with others and interact with others _ with others and interact with others. we have ph i see lessons within— others. we have ph i see lessons within our— others. we have ph i see lessons within our secondary schools. it is already— within our secondary schools. it is already a — within our secondary schools. it is already a focus. you are doing down the work— already a focus. you are doing down the work of— already a focus. you are doing down the work of our amazing two teachers to suggest— the work of our amazing two teachers to suggest it is not. we are listening _ to suggest it is not. we are listening at the moment and as a department there is more we can do, absolutely _ department there is more we can do, absolutel . �* .., department there is more we can do, absolutel . �* ,., ., department there is more we can do, absolutel . ~ ., , ., absolutely. also, on the proposed vitil this absolutely. also, on the proposed vigil this weekend, _ absolutely. also, on the proposed vigil this weekend, there - absolutely. also, on the proposed vigil this weekend, there is - absolutely. also, on the proposed vigil this weekend, there is one i vigil this weekend, there is one proposed where sarah everard was last seen in clapham, and various other cities around the country. will they be allowed to go ahead? 50 will they be allowed to go ahead? so thatis will they be allowed to go ahead? so that is something that the police have _ that is something that the police have been looking at and i believe it is going — have been looking at and i believe it is going to go to court to assess it. it is going to go to court to assess it it _ it is going to go to court to assess it it is _ it is going to go to court to assess it it is a _ it is going to go to court to assess it. it is a difficult one, because i can understand with emotions running hi-h, can understand with emotions running high. why— can understand with emotions running high, why people want to go and pay their respects and mark sarah's life, their respects and mark sarah's life. but— their respects and mark sarah's life, but at the same time we are in the middle — life, but at the same time we are in the middle of a pandemic, we have 900.000 _ the middle of a pandemic, we have 900,000 people in hospital with covid-l9~ — 900,000 people in hospital with covid—19. we have restrictions in place _ covid—19. we have restrictions in place to— covid—19. we have restrictions in place to reduce the spread of the virus _ place to reduce the spread of the virus and — place to reduce the spread of the virus and pressure on the nhs, and save lives — virus and pressure on the nhs, and save lives. this has to be a decision— save lives. this has to be a decision where the two are weighed up decision where the two are weighed up together and balanced. it will not be _ up together and balanced. it will not be an— up together and balanced. it will not be an easy one. that is why it is important — not be an easy one. that is why it is important that the police and courts— is important that the police and courts deal with it.— courts deal with it. let's talk about the — courts deal with it. let's talk about the new _ courts deal with it. let's talk about the new turing - courts deal with it. let's talk. about the new turing scheme. courts deal with it. let's talk - about the new turing scheme. how does it differ from the about the new turing scheme. how does it differfrom the erasmus scheme? does it differ from the erasmus scheme? . ,., does it differ from the erasmus scheme? . , , . scheme? yeah, so this is an international, _ scheme? yeah, so this is an international, whereas - scheme? yeah, so this is an i international, whereas erasmus scheme? yeah, so this is an - international, whereas erasmus was only european, exchange scheme, fundamentally. it is for schoolchildren and colleges and universities, for those individuals to be _ universities, for those individuals to be able — universities, for those individuals to be able to study or to work abroad — to be able to study or to work abroad. some of the key differences, apart from _ abroad. some of the key differences, apart from the fact it is global in reach. _ apart from the fact it is global in reach. is — apart from the fact it is global in reach, is that we are focusing on widening — reach, is that we are focusing on widening the access and participation of —— for disadvantaged students, and disabled students _ disadvantaged students, and disabled students. we are providing more financial— students. we are providing more financial support for those students. also, reducing the length that placements can be. from higher education _ that placements can be. from higher education right down to four weeks. that can _ education right down to four weeks. that can be — education right down to four weeks. that can be a stumbling block. we are also _ that can be a stumbling block. we are also communicating it more heavily— are also communicating it more heavily to — are also communicating it more heavily to areas of the country that have not— heavily to areas of the country that have not participated as much. it is a condition— have not participated as much. it is a condition when providers bid into the process. but fundamentally, above _ the process. but fundamentally, above all. — the process. but fundamentally, above all, this is a fantastic opportunity for our young people to id opportunity for our young people to go on _ opportunity for our young people to go on global exchanges that will be life changing, that will add to their— life changing, that will add to their skill set and help us in our levelling — their skill set and help us in our levelling up agenda.— their skill set and help us in our levelling up agenda. unlike erasmus, foreitn levelling up agenda. unlike erasmus, foreign university _ levelling up agenda. unlike erasmus, foreign university students _ levelling up agenda. unlike erasmus, foreign university students don't - foreign university students don't have the entitlement to study here under the turing scheme. what is the incentive for overseas universities to get involved in a scheme like this, to offer free education for uk students? . ~ , , , students? yeah. as i said, this is not 'ust students? yeah. as i said, this is rrot just about — students? yeah. as i said, this is notjust about universities. - students? yeah. as i said, this is notjust about universities. this | students? yeah. as i said, this is| notjust about universities. this is also bad _ notjust about universities. this is also bad colleges, further education in schools — also bad colleges, further education in schools. it will work as a university— in schools. it will work as a university —— exchange at university level _ university —— exchange at university level. basically what will happen is a university in this country, well come _ a university in this country, well come across the uk, will partner with one — come across the uk, will partner with one overseas. it might be the likes of— with one overseas. it might be the likes of mit, who have spoken to this week. — likes of mit, who have spoken to this week, who are excited about this week, who are excited about this initiative. an individually together— this initiative. an individually together they will waver one another's fees. there will be no additional— another's fees. there will be no additional obligation on the student to pay— additional obligation on the student to pay those fees on top of existing fees~ _ to pay those fees on top of existing fees we _ to pay those fees on top of existing fees. we will benefit from those international students coming here on placements providing that value to our— on placements providing that value to our society and our communities. when _ to our society and our communities. when will— to our society and our communities. when will you know the number of reciprocal agreements in place? 50. reciprocal agreements in place? so, what we are — reciprocal agreements in place? so, what we are aiming to do is 35,000 placements— what we are aiming to do is 35,000 placements abroad. it isn't contingent on having to have that reciprocal. — contingent on having to have that reciprocal, but it is part of the fabric— reciprocal, but it is part of the fabric that _ reciprocal, but it is part of the fabric that we appreciate. we anticipate it will hold up. the scheme — anticipate it will hold up. the scheme will run from september this year _ scheme will run from september this year this _ scheme will run from september this year. this government is totally committed to international mobility as a lever— committed to international mobility as a lever to assist with their levelling _ as a lever to assist with their levelling up agenda. i cannot emphasise enough how life changing these _ emphasise enough how life changing these opportunities are. we are talking — these opportunities are. we are talking about students going to some of the _ talking about students going to some of the best institutions overseas and some — of the best institutions overseas and some of their students coming over here — and some of their students coming over here. we are the second most attractive _ over here. we are the second most attractive destination to international students across the world _ international students across the world we — international students across the world. we have more of the world's top 100 _ world. we have more of the world's top 100 universities than the whole of the _ top 100 universities than the whole of the eu _ top 100 universities than the whole of the eu together. can top100 universities than the whole of the eu together.— of the eu together. can i ask a cou . le of the eu together. can i ask a couple of _ of the eu together. can i ask a couple of other _ of the eu together. can i ask a couple of other questions? - of the eu together. can i ask a | couple of other questions? are of the eu together. can i ask a i couple of other questions? are all university students allowed to be living in student accommodation now, orjust ones with practical teaching? in orjust ones with practical teaching?— orjust ones with practical teachint? . , . . ., teaching? injanuary, we managed to tet back teaching? injanuary, we managed to get back there _ teaching? injanuary, we managed to get back there was _ teaching? injanuary, we managed to get back there was critical _ teaching? injanuary, we managed to get back there was critical care - get back there was critical care worker— get back there was critical care worker courses, teacher training and the like _ worker courses, teacher training and the like. from wonder of this week we have _ the like. from wonder of this week we have enabled those on practical and creative subjects, so right the way from — and creative subjects, so right the way from art to go back. there are also exemptions in place. so if a student— also exemptions in place. so if a student needed to go back because of their mental health, or they didn't have adequate study spaces, then they could go back. but the remainder, we are asking them to stay at _ remainder, we are asking them to stay at home. we will review it in easter _ stay at home. we will review it in easter we — stay at home. we will review it in easter. we want to get them back as soon as— easter. we want to get them back as soon as we _ easter. we want to get them back as soon as we possibly can for face—to—face teaching. we have to be doing _ face—to—face teaching. we have to be doing that _ face—to—face teaching. we have to be doing that with the department of health _ doing that with the department of health and the advisors. are doing that with the department of health and the advisors.— health and the advisors. are they allowed to travel _ health and the advisors. are they allowed to travel back _ health and the advisors. are they allowed to travel back for - health and the advisors. are they. allowed to travel back for mother's day this weekend? ihla. allowed to travel back for mother's day this weekend?— allowed to travel back for mother's day this weekend? no, students, like ou and i, day this weekend? no, students, like you and l. are — day this weekend? no, students, like you and i, are subject _ day this weekend? no, students, like you and i, are subject to _ day this weekend? no, students, like you and i, are subject to the - day this weekend? no, students, like you and i, are subject to the same i you and i, are subject to the same restriction — you and i, are subject to the same restriction is _ you and i, are subject to the same restriction is. we are in a period of national— restriction is. we are in a period of national lockdown. we have 9000 people _ of national lockdown. we have 9000 people in— of national lockdown. we have 9000 people in hospital suffering from covid-l9~ — people in hospital suffering from covid—19. we are doing a tremendous 'ob covid—19. we are doing a tremendous job in— covid—19. we are doing a tremendous job in the _ covid—19. we are doing a tremendous job in the vaccine and all the volunteers are working on that continually. we have done over 23 million _ continually. we have done over 23 million of— continually. we have done over 23 million of them. we are still in a perilous — million of them. we are still in a perilous state of the virus. we have to be _ perilous state of the virus. we have to be cautious together, all of us, whether— to be cautious together, all of us, whether you are a student, a news reporter— whether you are a student, a news reporter or— whether you are a student, a news reporter or a — whether you are a student, a news reporter or a politician, we have to bear— reporter or a politician, we have to bear that— reporter or a politician, we have to bear that in— reporter or a politician, we have to bearthat in mind. reporter or a politician, we have to bear that in mind.— reporter or a politician, we have to bear that in mind. michelle donelan, thank ou bear that in mind. michelle donelan, thank you very _ bear that in mind. michelle donelan, thank you very much _ bear that in mind. michelle donelan, thank you very much for _ bear that in mind. michelle donelan, thank you very much forjoining - bear that in mind. michelle donelan, thank you very much forjoining us. | thank you very much forjoining us. thank you. m6 thank you very much for 'oining us. thank you.— twins may be more common today than at any time in history, according to the first comprehensive survey of twin births around the world. about 1.6 million twins are born each year worldwide. so that means that one in every 42 children is born a twin. in the last 30 years, the number of twins delivered per thousand has gone from nine per thousand to 12. so naturally we wanted to see how many of our breakfast viewers were double trouble — and you've definitely delivered. # one can have a dream, baby. # two can make that dream so real. # one can talk about being in love. # two can say how it really feels. # one can wish upon a star. # two can make their wish come true, yeah. # one can stand alone in the dark. # two can make the light shine through. # it takes two, baby. # me and you. # just takes two.# did you always want to be a twin? i was wanted to be a twin. i was really envious of twins. i was always envious of that idea that they have this special connection that no one else could understand, is almost that empathy. i always just thought it would be brilliant to be a twin, especially an identical one, i'd swap clothes and its confuse people. it is identical one, i'd swap clothes and its confuse people.— its confuse people. it is certainly a different _ its confuse people. it is certainly a different experience _ its confuse people. it is certainly a different experience by - its confuse people. it is certainly a different experience by all - a different experience by all accounts. we will find out in a moment. thank you, by the way, if you sent in those pictures. one of them you might have recognised was john and edward, collectively known as jedward. we john and edward, collectively known asjedward. we can speak to them. good morning. it is is great there has been — good morning. it is is great there has been an— good morning. it is is great there has been an increase in twins. it�*s has been an increase in twins. it's so cra . has been an increase in twins. it's so crazy- lt's _ has been an increase in twins. it's so crazy. it's crazy _ has been an increase in twins. it's so crazy. it's crazy because - has been an increase in twins. it's so crazy. it's crazy because our i so crazy. it's crazy because our friend wants _ so crazy. it's crazy because our friend wants us _ so crazy. it's crazy because our friend wants us to _ so crazy. it's crazy because our friend wants us to help - so crazy. it's crazy because our friend wants us to help her - so crazy. it's crazy because ourl friend wants us to help her have twins _ friend wants us to help her have twins via — friend wants us to help her have twins via ivf. so as her friends, it is the _ twins via ivf. so as her friends, it is the best— twins via ivf. so as her friends, it is the best gift we could give her. who knows? maybe the royal family will have _ who knows? maybe the royal family will have twins in the future. twin princess — will have twins in the future. twin trincess. ~ . will have twins in the future. twin trincess. . . ., will have twins in the future. twin trincess. . . . ., . princess. what we are noticing straightaway — princess. what we are noticing straightaway is _ princess. what we are noticing straightaway is that _ princess. what we are noticing straightaway is that you - princess. what we are noticing straightaway is that you do - princess. what we are noticing i straightaway is that you do finish each of their�*s sentences. each other�*s. professor asma khalil, professor of maternal foetal medicine at st george's hospital, who studies twin births. we are hearing about a worldwide figure. what about here in the uk in terms of the prevent —— percentage of twin births? terms of the prevent -- percentage of twin births?— terms of the prevent -- percentage of twin births? good morning. in the uk es, of twin births? good morning. in the uk yes. we — of twin births? good morning. in the uk yes. we have _ of twin births? good morning. in the uk yes, we have the _ of twin births? good morning. in the uk yes, we have the same _ of twin births? good morning. in the uk yes, we have the same trend, i of twin births? good morning. in the uk yes, we have the same trend, a i uk yes, we have the same trend, a rise in— uk yes, we have the same trend, a rise in the — uk yes, we have the same trend, a rise in the number of twins for a number— rise in the number of twins for a numberof— rise in the number of twins for a number of years. and the reason is because _ number of years. and the reason is because women are older when they .et because women are older when they get pregnant and we know that older mums _ get pregnant and we know that older mums are _ get pregnant and we know that older mums are more likely to have twins. also. _ mums are more likely to have twins. also, because of ivf, we know it is more _ also, because of ivf, we know it is more likely— also, because of ivf, we know it is more likely to result in twins. having — more likely to result in twins. having said that, the most recent trend _ having said that, the most recent trend is— having said that, the most recent trend is twin births are on the decline — trend is twin births are on the decline. that is because... between 2014 and _ decline. that is because... between 2014 and 2018 there has been a 4% reduction _ 2014 and 2018 there has been a 4% reduction in the number of twins in the united — reduction in the number of twins in the united states. we have seen the same _ the united states. we have seen the same trend — the united states. we have seen the same trend in the uk. according to the office — same trend in the uk. according to the office for national statistics, in 2019. — the office for national statistics, in 2019, there are approximately 9500 _ in 2019, there are approximately 9500 twin births in the uk. john and edward, 9500 twin births in the uk. john and edward. those _ 9500 twin births in the uk. john and edward, those are _ 9500 twin births in the uk. john and edward, those are the _ 9500 twin births in the uk. john and edward, those are the statistics. - edward, those are the statistics. obviously ivf and medical help has been attributed to some increase. but twins actually run in your family, don't they?— but twins actually run in your family, don't they? yes, we have twins running _ family, don't they? yes, we have twins running in _ family, don't they? yes, we have twins running in our _ family, don't they? yes, we have twins running in our family. - family, don't they? yes, we have twins running in our family. our i twins running in ourfamily. our grandad's — twins running in ourfamily. our grandad's brothers, pat and henry, were _ grandad's brothers, pat and henry, were twins~ — grandad's brothers, pat and henry, were twins-— grandad's brothers, pat and henry, were twins. maybe we can have our own twins one _ were twins. maybe we can have our own twins one day _ were twins. maybe we can have our own twins one day and _ were twins. maybe we can have our own twins one day and be - were twins. maybe we can have our own twins one day and be great - were twins. maybe we can have our. own twins one day and be great dads and spread _ own twins one day and be great dads and spread the — own twins one day and be great dads and spread the twin— own twins one day and be great dads and spread the twin love. _ own twins one day and be great dads and spread the twin love. we - own twins one day and be great dads and spread the twin love. we have i and spread the twin love. we have clothes _ and spread the twin love. we have clothes for— and spread the twin love. we have clothes for them _ and spread the twin love. we have clothes for them from _ and spread the twin love. we have clothes for them from ten - and spread the twin love. we have clothes for them from ten to - and spread the twin love. we have clothes for them from ten to 30. l and spread the twin love. we have l clothes for them from ten to 30. we are going _ clothes for them from ten to 30. we are going to— clothes for them from ten to 30. we are going to be— clothes for them from ten to 30. we are going to be 30— clothes for them from ten to 30. we are going to be 30 this _ clothes for them from ten to 30. we are going to be 30 this year. - clothes for them from ten to 30. we are going to be 30 this year. it’s- are going to be 30 this year. it's cra . are going to be 30 this year. it's crazy- we _ are going to be 30 this year. crazy. we kept all our clothes are going to be 30 this year.- crazy~ we kept all our clothes when crazy. we kept all our clothes when we were _ crazy. we kept all our clothes when we were younger as twins. i think twins _ we were younger as twins. i think twins are — we were younger as twins. i think twins are probably like a modern—day miracle~ _ twins are probably like a modern—day miracle. they bring a lot ofjoy. it is a lovely— miracle. they bring a lot ofjoy. it is a lovely to _ miracle. they bring a lot ofjoy. it is a lovely to have twins. and i think— is a lovely to have twins. and i think growing up together... people use ivf, think growing up together... people use ivf. they _ think growing up together... people use ivf, they are _ think growing up together... people use ivf, they are really _ think growing up together... people use ivf, they are really struggling l use ivf, they are really struggling to have _ use ivf, they are really struggling to have kids _ use ivf, they are really struggling to have kids. what _ use ivf, they are really struggling to have kids. what better- use ivf, they are really struggling to have kids. what better than- use ivf, they are really struggling to have kids. what better than to| to have kids. what better than to have _ to have kids. what better than to have two — to have kids. what better than to have two kids? _ to have kids. what better than to have two kids? it _ to have kids. what better than to have two kids? it brings- to have kids. what better than to i have two kids? it brings happiness, connects— have two kids? it brings happiness, connects families. _ have two kids? it brings happiness, connects families. and _ have two kids? it brings happiness, connects families. and i— have two kids? it brings happiness, connects families. and i feel- have two kids? it brings happiness, l connects families. and i feel moving forward _ connects families. and i feel moving forward to— connects families. and i feel moving forward to is — connects families. and i feel moving forward to is always _ connects families. and i feel moving forward to is always better— connects families. and i feel moving forward to is always better than - forward to is always better than one _ forward to is always better than one. ., ., , " forward to is always better than one. ., ., ., forward to is always better than one. . . , ., . . forward to is always better than one. . . mg ., . . . one. can i askjohn and edward, what is happening — one. can i askjohn and edward, what is happening here? _ one. can i askjohn and edward, what is happening here? are _ one. can i askjohn and edward, what is happening here? are you _ is happening here? are you interrupting each other, or are you literally feeling when to pick up from each other�*s thoughts? i literally feeling when to pick up from each other's thoughts? i don't know. it from each other's thoughts? i don't know- it is — from each other's thoughts? i don't know- lt isjust _ from each other's thoughts? i don't know. it isjust an _ from each other's thoughts? i don't know. it isjust an energy _ from each other's thoughts? i don't know. it isjust an energy we - from each other's thoughts? i don'tj know. it isjust an energy we share. this is— know. it isjust an energy we share. this is a _ know. it isjust an energy we share. this is a great— know. it isjust an energy we share. this is a great segment, to talk about— this is a great segment, to talk about twins~ _ this is a great segment, to talk about twins. we _ this is a great segment, to talk about twins. we share - this is a great segment, to talk about twins. we share the - this is a great segment, to talki about twins. we share the same vision _ about twins. we share the same vision creatively. _ about twins. we share the same vision creatively. the _ about twins. we share the same vision creatively. the main - about twins. we share the same - vision creatively. the main message we want _ vision creatively. the main message we want to— vision creatively. the main message we want to put— vision creatively. the main message we want to put across, _ vision creatively. the main message we want to put across, whether- we want to put across, whether onstage — we want to put across, whether onstage or _ we want to put across, whether onstage or writing _ we want to put across, whether onstage or writing songs, - we want to put across, whether onstage or writing songs, he i we want to put across, whetheri onstage or writing songs, he has we want to put across, whether- onstage or writing songs, he has his part. _ onstage or writing songs, he has his part. i_ onstage or writing songs, he has his part. i have — onstage or writing songs, he has his part. i have parts _ onstage or writing songs, he has his part, i have parts. i— onstage or writing songs, he has his part. i have parts-— part, i have parts. ithink it is nice going — part, i have parts. ithink it is nice going through _ part, i have parts. ithink it is nice going through life - part, i have parts. ithink it is nice going through life as - part, i have parts. ithink it is nice going through life as a i part, i have parts. i think it is. nice going through life as a twin because — nice going through life as a twin because you note the pressure is always— because you note the pressure is always on— because you note the pressure is always on you. even in state i know everybody — always on you. even in state i know everybody is — always on you. even in state i know everybody is not just looking at me, there _ everybody is not just looking at me, there may— everybody is not just looking at me, there may be looking atjohn. if there may be looking atjohn. someone there may be looking atjohn. if someone is singing happy birthday, you are _ someone is singing happy birthday, you are both— someone is singing happy birthday, you are both getting _ someone is singing happy birthday, you are both getting it _ someone is singing happy birthday, you are both getting it sung - someone is singing happy birthday, you are both getting it sung to - someone is singing happy birthday, you are both getting it sung to you. you're _ you are both getting it sung to you. you're always — you are both getting it sung to you. you're always doing _ you are both getting it sung to you. you're always doing it _ you are both getting it sung to you. you're always doing it as _ you are both getting it sung to you. you're always doing it as a - you are both getting it sung to you. you're always doing it as a team. i you are both getting it sung to you. i you're always doing it as a team. by you're always doing it as a team. e3;- way of you're always doing it as a team. way of an experiment, and i am you're always doing it as a teamfl way of an experiment, and i am not seeking to separate you in any way at all, edward, ok? you have clearly expressed to people the joy of being a twin, which is that closeness you have, which is a unique bond. is there also a downside, which is that when you are, as and when you are separated, that separation must feel really intense? ihla. separated, that separation must feel really intense?— really intense? no, it is weird, because people _ really intense? no, it is weird, because people as _ really intense? no, it is weird, because people as twins, - really intense? no, it is weird,| because people as twins, when really intense? no, it is weird, - because people as twins, when people see you _ because people as twins, when people see you they say, where is your other— see you they say, where is your other twin? _ see you they say, where is your other twin?— see you they say, where is your other twin? hold on, you did that thint. other twin? hold on, you did that thing- the _ other twin? hold on, you did that thing. the question _ other twin? hold on, you did that thing. the question was - other twin? hold on, you did that thing. the question was for - other twin? hold on, you did that i thing. the question was for edward. i was trying to get one thought process. it i was trying to get one thought trocess. . . i was trying to get one thought trocess. , . ., . ., process. it is hard to have your own identity growing _ process. it is hard to have your own identity growing up. _ process. it is hard to have your own identity growing up. it's _ process. it is hard to have your own identity growing up. it's nice - process. it is hard to have your own identity growing up. it's nice to - process. it is hard to have your own identity growing up. it's nice to go i identity growing up. it's nice to go off by— identity growing up. it's nice to go off by yourself sometimes and grow as your— off by yourself sometimes and grow as your own person, because doing all the _ as your own person, because doing all the same classes, it is nice to see who — all the same classes, it is nice to see who you _ all the same classes, it is nice to see who you are as a person. what about you. — see who you are as a person. what about you. john? _ see who you are as a person. what about you, john? it _ see who you are as a person. what about you, john? it is _ see who you are as a person. what about you, john? it is up _ see who you are as a person. what about you, john? it is up to - see who you are as a person. what about you, john? it is up to you, keep— about you, john? it is up to you, keep going _ about you, john? it is up to you, keep going i— about you, john? it is up to you, keep going-— keep going. i want to tell everybody. _ keep going. i want to tell everybody. l _ keep going. i want to tell everybody, i shaved - keep going. i want to tell. everybody, i shaved during keep going. i want to tell- everybody, i shaved during the lockdown. i literally looked like i was in _ lockdown. i literally looked like i was in rehab.— lockdown. i literally looked like i was in rehab. there are more pros than cons— was in rehab. there are more pros than cons being _ was in rehab. there are more pros than cons being twins. _ was in rehab. there are more pros than cons being twins. we - was in rehab. there are more pros than cons being twins. we are - was in rehab. there are more pros than cons being twins. we are like batman _ than cons being twins. we are like batman and — than cons being twins. we are like batman and robin _ than cons being twins. we are like batman and robin taking - than cons being twins. we are like batman and robin taking on - than cons being twins. we are like batman and robin taking on the i than cons being twins. we are like - batman and robin taking on the world together— batman and robin taking on the world together no— batman and robin taking on the world together no matter— batman and robin taking on the world together no matter what. _ batman and robin taking on the world together no matter what. if _ batman and robin taking on the world together no matter what. if he - batman and robin taking on the world together no matter what. if he goes i together no matter what. if he goes out to _ together no matter what. if he goes out to do _ together no matter what. if he goes out to do batman _ together no matter what. if he goes out to do batman things, _ together no matter what. if he goes out to do batman things, i - together no matter what. if he goes out to do batman things, i have - together no matter what. if he goes out to do batman things, i have got| out to do batman things, i have got him. out to do batman things, i have got him i— out to do batman things, i have got him. ., �* ~' out to do batman things, i have got him. ., �* ,, ., , him. i don't think i would live this life ofjohn _ him. i don't think i would live this life of john wasn't _ him. i don't think i would live this life of john wasn't there. - him. i don't think i would live this life of john wasn't there. you - him. i don't think i would live this | life of john wasn't there. you know nothint life of john wasn't there. you know nothing different. _ life of john wasn't there. you know nothing different. you _ life of john wasn't there. you know nothing different. you know- life of john wasn't there. you know nothing different. you know each i nothing different. you know each other. let's bring in the professor again. professor, one of the things is, i often use to which i was a twin. often you would hear parents say, i would love to have twins. on a practical basis there are risks, aren't there? that was always borne in mind in medical terms? aren't there? that was always borne in mind in medicalterms? yes. aren't there? that was always borne in mind in medicalterms?— in mind in medicalterms? yes, you are absolutely _ in mind in medicalterms? yes, you are absolutely right. _ in mind in medicalterms? yes, you are absolutely right. despite - in mind in medicalterms? yes, you are absolutely right. despite the i are absolutely right. despite the fact that — are absolutely right. despite the fact that most mums who have twins will have _ fact that most mums who have twins will have healthy babies, we know that they— will have healthy babies, we know that they have, they are more likely to develop— that they have, they are more likely to develop problems in pregnancy. stillbirths, the chance of a baby dying _ stillbirths, the chance of a baby dying during pregnancy, is twice in twins _ dying during pregnancy, is twice in twins compared to if you have one baby _ twins compared to if you have one baby and — twins compared to if you have one baby. and in fact more likely if you have _ baby. and in fact more likely if you have identical twins compared to if you have _ have identical twins compared to if you have one baby. prematurity, if you have one baby. prematurity, if you going — you have one baby. prematurity, if you going to labour early, half of twins _ you going to labour early, half of twins will— you going to labour early, half of twins will deliver early. if you deliver — twins will deliver early. if you deliver a _ twins will deliver early. if you deliver a premature baby, that baby needs— deliver a premature baby, that baby needs to _ deliver a premature baby, that baby needs to go into a neonatal unit. and that — needs to go into a neonatal unit. and that is — needs to go into a neonatal unit. and that is a risk. what is the general advice? and that is a risk. what is the generaladvice? if and that is a risk. what is the general advice? if parents come to you, particularly in an ivf scenario and they want twins, would you discourage them from going down that route? medically? yes. discourage them from going down that route? medically?— route? medically? yes. and of course it's a parent's — route? medically? yes. and of course it's a parent's decision _ route? medically? yes. and of course it's a parent's decision at _ route? medically? yes. and of course it's a parent's decision at the - route? medically? yes. and of course it's a parent's decision at the end - it's a parent's decision at the end of the _ it's a parent's decision at the end of the day — it's a parent's decision at the end of the day. but we would definitely advise _ of the day. but we would definitely advise them to try for one baby or have _ advise them to try for one baby or have two— advise them to try for one baby or have two pregnancies. certainly in the uk _ have two pregnancies. certainly in the uk we — have two pregnancies. certainly in the uk we have the human fertilisation and embryology authority. in 2009 we set a target for ive— authority. in 2009 we set a target for ivf clinics of achieving less than _ for ivf clinics of achieving less than 10% — for ivf clinics of achieving less than 10% rate of twins from ivf pregnancy. and in 2017, for the first— pregnancy. and in 2017, for the first time — pregnancy. and in 2017, for the first time in the uk, actually we have _ first time in the uk, actually we have achieved this target. in ivf pregnancy— have achieved this target. in ivf pregnancy is less than 10% result in the birth— pregnancy is less than 10% result in the birth of— pregnancy is less than 10% result in the birth of twins.— the birth of twins. really interesting. _ the birth of twins. really interesting. professor. the birth of twins. really interesting. professor of| the birth of twins. really - interesting. professor of obstetrics at saint georges hospital. and john and edward grimes, thank you. can we tive a and edward grimes, thank you. can we give a shout — and edward grimes, thank you. can we give a shout out _ and edward grimes, thank you. can we give a shout out to _ and edward grimes, thank you. can we give a shout out to ed _ and edward grimes, thank you. can we give a shout out to ed sheeran? - and edward grimes, thank you. can we give a shout out to ed sheeran? he i give a shout out to ed sheeran? he likes painting in his free time. he sent us— likes painting in his free time. he sent us this — likes painting in his free time. he sent us this for christmas. xht'ertg sent us this for christmas. very nice. sent us this for christmas. very nice- happy _ sent us this for christmas. very nice. happy mother's _ sent us this for christmas. very nice. happy mother's day - sent us this for christmas. very nice. happy mother's day for. sent us this for christmas. very l nice. happy mother's day for the weekend as _ nice. happy mother's day for the weekend as well. _ nice. happy mother's day for the weekend as well. thank - nice. happy mother's day for the weekend as well. thank you - nice. happy mother's day for the weekend as well. thank you so i nice. happy mother's day for the - weekend as well. thank you so much. that is jedward. _ weekend as well. thank you so much. that is jedward. 7:55am. _ what's giving you most trouble in your garden? do you have slugs or caterpillars eating your precious plants? there is a hit list of things doing the most damage. the royal horticultural society has released its annual report of the most troublesome creatures in our gardens, and our reporter ben boulos is on an allotment in woking to find out how to keep them at bay. hello. getting all down and dirty in the garden?— hello. getting all down and dirty in the atrden? , . . . the garden? very much so, naga. if ou have the garden? very much so, naga. if you have got _ the garden? very much so, naga. if you have got a _ the garden? very much so, naga. if you have got a garden _ the garden? very much so, naga. if you have got a garden or— the garden? very much so, naga. if you have got a garden or an - you have got a garden or an allotment, this is what you want things— allotment, this is what you want things to — allotment, this is what you want things to look like. look at this healthy— things to look like. look at this healthy cabbage. this purple sprouting broccoli. nice healthy leaves~ — sprouting broccoli. nice healthy leaves. for many people doubt the reality— leaves. for many people doubt the reality is— leaves. for many people doubt the reality is more like this. look at all the _ reality is more like this. look at all the holes in that. probably caused — all the holes in that. probably caused by, well, a very hungry caterpillar _ caused by, well, a very hungry caterpillar. what do you do about them? _ caterpillar. what do you do about them? i— caterpillar. what do you do about them? i knowjust the person to ask. it is them? i knowjust the person to ask. it is the _ them? i knowjust the person to ask. it is the chief— them? i knowjust the person to ask. it is the chief horticulturalist at the rhs — it is the chief horticulturalist at the rhs. guy, whetheryou it is the chief horticulturalist at the rhs. guy, whether you are a first-time — the rhs. guy, whether you are a first—time gardener or a chief horticulturalist you face these pests. — horticulturalist you face these pests, what should you do? basically, grow lots of plants, feed them _ basically, grow lots of plants, feed them with— basically, grow lots of plants, feed them with lots— basically, grow lots of plants, feed them with lots of— basically, grow lots of plants, feed them with lots of compost. - basically, grow lots of plants, feed them with lots of compost. nature| basically, grow lots of plants, feed i them with lots of compost. nature is like an— them with lots of compost. nature is like an invisible _ them with lots of compost. nature is like an invisible hand. _ them with lots of compost. nature is like an invisible hand. there - them with lots of compost. nature is like an invisible hand. there are - like an invisible hand. there are lots of— like an invisible hand. there are lots of predatory— like an invisible hand. there are lots of predatory insects, - like an invisible hand. there are i lots of predatory insects, parasites and diseases _ lots of predatory insects, parasites and diseases. finish— lots of predatory insects, parasites and diseases. finish off— lots of predatory insects, parasites and diseases. finish off the - lots of predatory insects, parasites and diseases. finish off the bad i and diseases. finish off the bad insights— and diseases. finish off the bad insights and _ and diseases. finish off the bad insights and that _ and diseases. finish off the bad insights and that keeps - and diseases. finish off the bad insights and that keeps your- and diseases. finish off the bad i insights and that keeps your crops are relatively— insights and that keeps your crops are relatively free. _ insights and that keeps your crops are relatively free. we _ insights and that keeps your crops are relatively free. we at - insights and that keeps your crops are relatively free. we at the - insights and that keeps your cropsi are relatively free. we at the royal horticultural— are relatively free. we at the royal horticultural society— are relatively free. we at the royal horticultural society believe - are relatively free. we at the royal horticultural society believe you i horticultural society believe you can grow — horticultural society believe you can grow good _ horticultural society believe you can grow good crops _ horticultural society believe you can grow good crops without - horticultural society believe you - can grow good crops without massive use of— can grow good crops without massive use of pesticides. _ can grow good crops without massive use of pesticides.— use of pesticides. some people will be utterly exasperated. _ use of pesticides. some people will be utterly exasperated. they - use of pesticides. some people will be utterly exasperated. they will i be utterly exasperated. they will reach _ be utterly exasperated. they will reach for — be utterly exasperated. they will reach for slug pellets or be sold to deal with — reach for slug pellets or be sold to deal with slugs. is there any problem _ deal with slugs. is there any problem with doing that? should they be doing _ problem with doing that? should they be doing it? you problem with doing that? should they be doint it? ., . ., , be doing it? you have to be reasonable. _ be doing it? you have to be reasonable. sometimes - be doing it? you have to be i reasonable. sometimes pests be doing it? you have to be - reasonable. sometimes pests get out of hand _ reasonable. sometimes pests get out of hand if— reasonable. sometimes pests get out of hand if slugs— reasonable. sometimes pests get out of hand. if slugs are _ reasonable. sometimes pests get out of hand. if slugs are doing _ reasonable. sometimes pests get out of hand. if slugs are doing a - reasonable. sometimes pests get out of hand. if slugs are doing a lot - reasonable. sometimes pests get out of hand. if slugs are doing a lot of- of hand. if slugs are doing a lot of damage _ of hand. if slugs are doing a lot of damage sometimes— of hand. if slugs are doing a lot of damage sometimes there - of hand. if slugs are doing a lot of damage sometimes there is - of hand. if slugs are doing a lot of damage sometimes there is no i of hand. if slugs are doing a lot of. damage sometimes there is no other option _ damage sometimes there is no other option but _ damage sometimes there is no other option but salt. _ damage sometimes there is no other option. but salt. i_ damage sometimes there is no other option. but salt, i would _ damage sometimes there is no other option. but salt, i would go- damage sometimes there is no other option. but salt, i would go easy- damage sometimes there is no other option. but salt, i would go easy on| option. but salt, i would go easy on it. option. but salt, i would go easy on it it _ option. but salt, i would go easy on it it is _ option. but salt, i would go easy on it it is quite — option. but salt, i would go easy on it it is quite a — option. but salt, i would go easy on it. it is quite a powerful— option. but salt, i would go easy on it. it is quite a powerful herbicide i it. it is quite a powerful herbicide and you _ it. it is quite a powerful herbicide and you could _ it. it is quite a powerful herbicide and you could kill— it. it is quite a powerful herbicide and you could kill your— it. it is quite a powerful herbicide and you could kill your plants - and you could kill your plants rather — and you could kill your plants rather than _ and you could kill your plants rather than help. _ and you could kill your plants rather than help.— and you could kill your plants rather than help. ok. the rhs has tut rather than help. ok. the rhs has put together. _ rather than help. ok. the rhs has put together. l _ rather than help. ok. the rhs has put together, i say, _ rather than help. ok. the rhs has put together, i say, trying - rather than help. ok. the rhs has put together, i say, trying to - rather than help. ok. the rhs has put together, i say, trying to stop| put together, i say, trying to stop not unto — put together, i say, trying to stop not unto the cabbages, has put together— not unto the cabbages, has put together a list of the most common pests _ together a list of the most common pests and _ together a list of the most common pests and problems for gardeners in the last— pests and problems for gardeners in the last year. they have got a top three _ the last year. they have got a top three stop — the last year. they have got a top three stop boxtree caterpillars, vine weevil is and in at number one, well. _ vine weevil is and in at number one, well. let's— vine weevil is and in at number one, well. let's ask— vine weevil is and in at number one, well, let's ask doctor hayleyjones, an entomologist, to show us? what have you _ an entomologist, to show us? what have you got there, the number one? these _ have you got there, the number one? these are _ have you got there, the number one? these are slugs and snails, number one this _ these are slugs and snails, number one this year — these are slugs and snails, number one this year. they _ these are slugs and snails, number one this year. they do _ these are slugs and snails, number one this year. they do often - these are slugs and snails, number one this year. they do often come i one this year. they do often come out at _ one this year. they do often come out at number— one this year. they do often come out at number one. _ one this year. they do often come out at number one. it _ one this year. they do often come out at number one. it was - one this year. they do often come out at number one. it was pretty. out at number one. it was pretty surprising — out at number one. it was pretty surprising that — out at number one. it was pretty surprising that last _ out at number one. it was pretty surprising that last year, - out at number one. it was pretty surprising that last year, even i surprising that last year, even though— surprising that last year, even though it _ surprising that last year, even though it was _ surprising that last year, even though it was hot _ surprising that last year, even though it was hot and - surprising that last year, even though it was hot and dry, - surprising that last year, eveni though it was hot and dry, they surprising that last year, even - though it was hot and dry, they were still our— though it was hot and dry, they were still our number— though it was hot and dry, they were still our number one _ though it was hot and dry, they were still our number one pest. _ though it was hot and dry, they were still our number one pest. if- though it was hot and dry, they were still our number one pest.— still our number one pest. if people have something _ still our number one pest. if people have something wrong _ still our number one pest. if people have something wrong with - still our number one pest. if people have something wrong with their i have something wrong with their plans. _ have something wrong with their plans, may a pattern or some holes, and they— plans, may a pattern or some holes, and they are — plans, may a pattern or some holes, and they are not sure what is causing — and they are not sure what is causing it. _ and they are not sure what is causing it, how can they find out? well. _ causing it, how can they find out? well. good — causing it, how can they find out? well, good place to start is the rhs website~ _ well, good place to start is the rhs website we — well, good place to start is the rhs website. we have _ well, good place to start is the rhs website. we have loads— well, good place to start is the rhs website. we have loads and - well, good place to start is the rhs website. we have loads and loads i well, good place to start is the rhs| website. we have loads and loads of pages _ website. we have loads and loads of pages on _ website. we have loads and loads of pages on the — website. we have loads and loads of pages on the different _ website. we have loads and loads of pages on the different plants - website. we have loads and loads of pages on the different plants you - pages on the different plants you might— pages on the different plants you might want— pages on the different plants you might want to _ pages on the different plants you might want to grow— pages on the different plants you might want to grow and - pages on the different plants you might want to grow and the - pages on the different plants you - might want to grow and the different pests and _ might want to grow and the different pests and diseases. _ might want to grow and the different pests and diseases. normally, - might want to grow and the different pests and diseases. normally, if- might want to grow and the different pests and diseases. normally, if youj pests and diseases. normally, if you start on— pests and diseases. normally, if you start on the — pests and diseases. normally, if you start on the page _ pests and diseases. normally, if you start on the page with _ pests and diseases. normally, if you start on the page with the _ pests and diseases. normally, if you start on the page with the plant - pests and diseases. normally, if you start on the page with the plant you i start on the page with the plant you are interested — start on the page with the plant you are interested in, _ start on the page with the plant you are interested in, near— start on the page with the plant you are interested in, nearthe - start on the page with the plant you are interested in, near the bottom i are interested in, near the bottom it will— are interested in, near the bottom it will say— are interested in, near the bottom it will say problems _ are interested in, near the bottom it will say problems it _ are interested in, near the bottom it will say problems it commonlyi it will say problems it commonly has. _ it will say problems it commonly has. and — it will say problems it commonly has. and you _ it will say problems it commonly has, and you can _ it will say problems it commonly has, and you can click— it will say problems it commonly has, and you can click through i it will say problems it commonlyi has, and you can click through and see the _ has, and you can click through and see the pictures _ has, and you can click through and see the pictures and _ has, and you can click through and see the pictures and see _ has, and you can click through and see the pictures and see if- has, and you can click through and see the pictures and see if it - see the pictures and see if it matches— see the pictures and see if it matches what— see the pictures and see if it matches what you _ see the pictures and see if it matches what you are - see the pictures and see if it. matches what you are seeing. see the pictures and see if it - matches what you are seeing. then there _ matches what you are seeing. then there is— matches what you are seeing. then there is advice _ matches what you are seeing. then there is advice underneath - matches what you are seeing. then there is advice underneath and - matches what you are seeing. theni there is advice underneath and what you might _ there is advice underneath and what you might be — there is advice underneath and what you might be able _ there is advice underneath and what you might be able to— there is advice underneath and what you might be able to do. _ there is advice underneath and what you might be able to do. you - there is advice underneath and what you might be able to do.— you might be able to do. you have allotted enquiries _ you might be able to do. you have allotted enquiries in _ you might be able to do. you have allotted enquiries in 2020. - you might be able to do. you have allotted enquiries in 2020. is - allotted enquiries in 2020. is because _ allotted enquiries in 2020. is because pests and fungus is are becoming — because pests and fungus is are becoming more common, orare people are spending— becoming more common, orare people are spending more time in the garden? — are spending more time in the garden? we are spending more time in the atrden? ~ ~ . are spending more time in the atrden? ,, , , , garden? we think it is because etotle garden? we think it is because people are _ garden? we think it is because people are spending _ garden? we think it is because people are spending more - garden? we think it is because| people are spending more time garden? we think it is because i people are spending more time in garden? we think it is because - people are spending more time in the garden _ people are spending more time in the garden we _ people are spending more time in the garden we had — people are spending more time in the garden. we had almost— people are spending more time in the garden. we had almost twice - people are spending more time in the garden. we had almost twice as - people are spending more time in thej garden. we had almost twice as many enguiries _ garden. we had almost twice as many enguiries to— garden. we had almost twice as many enguiries to our— garden. we had almost twice as many enquiries to our department. - garden. we had almost twice as many enquiries to our department. they - enquiries to our department. they were _ enquiries to our department. they were kind — enquiries to our department. they were kind of— enquiries to our department. they were kind of the _ enquiries to our department. they were kind of the same _ enquiries to our department. they were kind of the same topics - enquiries to our department. they were kind of the same topics that| enquiries to our department. they i were kind of the same topics that we normally— were kind of the same topics that we normally get. — were kind of the same topics that we normally get. but— were kind of the same topics that we normally get, but just _ were kind of the same topics that we normally get, but just way _ were kind of the same topics that we normally get, but just way more. - normally get, but just way more. lots of— normally get, but just way more. lots of people _ normally get, but just way more. lots of people getting _ normally get, but just way more. lots of people getting interested j normally get, but just way more. i lots of people getting interested in gardening — lots of people getting interested in gardening 0k. _ lots of people getting interested in atrtdenin. ._ g gardening. ok, hayley. iwill let ou tut gardening. ok, hayley. iwill let you put the _ gardening. ok, hayley. iwill let you put the slugs _ gardening. ok, hayley. iwill let you put the slugs and _ gardening. ok, hayley. iwill let you put the slugs and snails - gardening. ok, hayley. iwill letl you put the slugs and snails away before _ you put the slugs and snails away before they crawl up your arm. one more _ before they crawl up your arm. one more question for guy, actually. monty— more question for guy, actually. monty don— more question for guy, actually. monty don has been saying in the past few— monty don has been saying in the past few days, don't mow your lawn, don't _ past few days, don't mow your lawn, don't get _ past few days, don't mow your lawn, don't get those stripes on the lawn, it is doing _ don't get those stripes on the lawn, it is doing more harm than good. where _ it is doing more harm than good. where do — it is doing more harm than good. where do you stand on this controversial issue? nobody is sa int controversial issue? nobody is saying you _ controversial issue? nobody is saying you shouldn't _ controversial issue? nobody is saying you shouldn't have - controversial issue? nobody is saying you shouldn't have a i controversial issue? nobody is i saying you shouldn't have a long summer— saying you shouldn't have a long summer for— saying you shouldn't have a long summerforthe_ saying you shouldn't have a long summer for the children - saying you shouldn't have a long summer for the children to - saying you shouldn't have a longj summer for the children to play, have _ summer for the children to play, have a _ summer for the children to play, have a picnic— summer for the children to play, have a picnic and _ summer for the children to play, have a picnic and for— summer for the children to play, have a picnic and for the - summer for the children to play, have a picnic and for the patch i summer for the children to play, | have a picnic and for the patch to rome _ have a picnic and for the patch to rome it — have a picnic and for the patch to rome it is — have a picnic and for the patch to rome it is a _ have a picnic and for the patch to rome. it is a question— have a picnic and for the patch to rome. it is a question of- have a picnic and for the patch toi rome. it is a question of balance. if rome. it is a question of balance. if you _ rome. it is a question of balance. if you are — rome. it is a question of balance. if you are lucky— rome. it is a question of balance. if you are lucky enough _ rome. it is a question of balance. if you are lucky enough enough i rome. it is a question of balance. i if you are lucky enough enough long, perhaps— if you are lucky enough enough long, perhaps mow— if you are lucky enough enough long, perhaps mow a — if you are lucky enough enough long, perhaps mow a path— if you are lucky enough enough long, perhaps mow a path so _ if you are lucky enough enough long, perhaps mow a path so you - if you are lucky enough enough long, perhaps mow a path so you can - if you are lucky enough enough long, j perhaps mow a path so you can enjoy the insects— perhaps mow a path so you can enjoy the insects as — perhaps mow a path so you can enjoy the insects as well. _ perhaps mow a path so you can enjoy the insects as well. for— perhaps mow a path so you can en'oy the insects as well.�* the insects as well. for anyone lookint the insects as well. for anyone looking to _ the insects as well. for anyone looking to get _ the insects as well. for anyone looking to get started - the insects as well. for anyone looking to get started in - the insects as well. for anyone looking to get started in the i looking to get started in the garden. _ looking to get started in the garden, what is your top tip? well, m to- tit garden, what is your top tip? well, my top tip is _ garden, what is your top tip? well, my top tip is to _ garden, what is your top tip? well, my top tip is to give _ garden, what is your top tip? well, my top tip is to give it _ garden, what is your top tip? well, my top tip is to give it a _ garden, what is your top tip? well, my top tip is to give it a go, - garden, what is your top tip? well, my top tip is to give it a go, have a look— my top tip is to give it a go, have a look on — my top tip is to give it a go, have a look on the _ my top tip is to give it a go, have a look on the royal— my top tip is to give it a go, have a look on the royal horticulturali a look on the royal horticultural society— a look on the royal horticultural society website _ a look on the royal horticultural society website where _ a look on the royal horticultural society website where there - a look on the royal horticultural society website where there is i a look on the royal horticultural. society website where there is lots of information _ society website where there is lots of information for— society website where there is lots of information for beginners. - society website where there is lotsl of information for beginners. plants are on— of information for beginners. plants are on your— of information for beginners. plants are on your side. _ of information for beginners. plants are on your side, they— of information for beginners. plants are on your side, they want - of information for beginners. plants are on your side, they want to - of information for beginners. plants| are on your side, they want to grow. give it— are on your side, they want to grow. give it a _ are on your side, they want to grow. give it a go — are on your side, they want to grow. give it a go-— give it a go. thank you very much. just before — give it a go. thank you very much. just before l _ give it a go. thank you very much. just before i hand _ give it a go. thank you very much. just before i hand back— give it a go. thank you very much. just before i hand back to - give it a go. thank you very much. just before i hand back to you, - give it a go. thank you very much. | just before i hand back to you, this is an— just before i hand back to you, this is an example of a successful 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"kind, thoughtful, caring and dependable." the family of sarah everard pay tribute as a police officer continues to be questioned over her murder. calls to "reclaim the streets" as the case sparks anger over the safety of women in the uk. i've never felt safe walking alone at night. as soon as the sun sets, it's a little bit scarier, a little bit more intense. we are live with mark ormrod, the former royal marine commander of triple amputee, who is attempting to run five kilometres around this track to raise money for charity. his fundraising page going really well but he has just fallen for the first time on this run. he has got one lap to go. good morning. trade with the eu slumped by 40% injanuary as the slumped by 40% in january as the brexit transition period came to slumped by 40% injanuary as the brexit transition period came to an end. it has been blamed on businesses stockpiling and delays at the border. protect the next generation of footballers — that's the wish of former england defender dave watson, known for his heading prowess. he's been talking to us about his dementia diagnosis and he's calling for more action to be taken. and it is a day for rainbow spotters, meaning there will be some sunshine but also some pretty heavy showers with some hail and thunder. join me for the full forecast. it's friday march the 12th. our top story. the family of sarah everard has paid tribute, describing her as a "shining example to us all" who "brought so much joy to our lives". a serving metropolitan police officer is still being held on suspicion of murdering the 33—year—old. the force has referred itself to the police watchdog over how it investigated a separate allegation that the same officer indecently exposed himselfjust three days before sarah went missing. in a moment we'll speak to charlotte wright at new scotland yard, but first let's get the latest on the investigation with simonjones in ashford, in kent, where the search is taking place. simon. the police activity is continuing _ simon. the police activity is continuing this _ simon. the police activity is continuing this morning. i simon. the police activity is - continuing this morning. human remains were discovered in the woodland behind me on wednesday. they have yet to be formally identified but the events of the past few days has had a profound effect on the community here. we have seen police officers come down this road, bringing flowers from members of the public. they didn't know sarah but they wanted to express their sympathy for her family. and yesterday the family issued an emotional statement, paying tribute to her. they describe sarah as kind and caring, saying they are very proud of her. she was bright and beautiful. the family have also praised the police investigation, thanking them for everything they are doing, trying to provide answers for the family. they are also appealing for anyone with further information to contact the police, however insignificant they think that might be. there is a profound sense of shock here. in terms of the investigation, police have been given more time to speak to their suspect, a man in his 405, serving metropolitan police officer. a woman in her 305 who had been arrested on suspicion of assisting an offender has been released on bail. as well as the search here, it is also continuing at a house in deal on the kent coast. no sign of this investigation losing any momentum. this investigation losing any momentum-— charlotte wright is at new scotland yard. charlotte, the murder investigation continues but the met police itself is also under scrutiny. yes, that's right. good morning. as they continue with their investigation the police will now be investigated themselves. it is after it emerged that the suspect had been accused of indecent exposure three days before sarah went missing. we know two police officers are being investigated by the iopc, the police watchdog, over their response to that accusation. that is one of five investigations being carried out by the police watchdog. they are also looking at how the met responded to that initial report of sarah being missing and also help the suspect sustained a serious head injury while in custody. you have heard from simon strength of feeling around this and how people are feeling very emotional about what has been happening over the past few days and what has been emerging. some people have been planning to hold a vigil in south london on saturday evening. they have been wanting to hold that in the sarah's name. there is some question about whether that can go ahead or not. under lockdown restrictions life gatherings are banned. people are being dispersed from those sort of things and they can receive fines. —— life gatherings are banned. the police have said they understand the strength of feeling and they remain in discussion with organisers about the event —— large gatherings are banned. the event -- large gatherings are banned. . ~ the event -- large gatherings are banned. . ,, g ., the event -- large gatherings are banned. . ~' , ., , the event -- large gatherings are banned. . ,, g. g . lockdown rules will begin to ease in wales from this weekend, to allow more mixing between households, indoor care home visits and outdoor sports. let's speak now our correspondent mark hutchings, who's in cardiff this morning. we spoke to the welsh first minister a short time ago and he was talking about the approach. it is cautious but these are significant steps that are taking place now in relation to how people operate in their day—to—day lives. how people operate in their day-to-day lives.— how people operate in their day-to-day lives. yes, i think we have had it _ day-to-day lives. yes, i think we have had it confirmed _ day-to-day lives. yes, i think we have had it confirmed today - day-to-day lives. yes, i think we have had it confirmed today what day-to-day lives. yes, i think we i have had it confirmed today what we pretty much already knew, that the first minister is a cautious driver. he will not want to be doing wheelies as we come out of lockdown. it is cautious. just to pick out a few of the main points. from tomorrow, stay home becomes a state local. the guidance is that is within five miles, though there is more in the way in rural areas. it was a contentious issue plus time and i suspect it will be again. the good news for many is that from tomorrow four people from two households can meet outside to socialise, including in guidance, though may need to wrap up! shops can open from april 12 and there was a previous and it could have been earlier. shops such as big supermarkets can soon start selling nonessential items. there is some good news it seems on the horizon for parts of the tourism and hospitality sector, because under the welsh road map the first minister is suggesting that soon people might be able to go to self—contained accommodation, including caravans. the prime minister's road map is very clear. on the 29th of march, when we will begin to reopen our tourism industry, the instruction in england will still be to stay local and not to stay overnight away from home. so at that point people in wales will be able to travel for holiday purposes, but the rules in england will preclude people from coming over the border. so it is a steady eddie approach, i think. ithink so it is a steady eddie approach, i think. i think the test for the welsh government is whether it may take people with them as far as the regulations are concerned. clearly men will welcome it is a careful emergence from lockdown. others may question whether it is too careful. the good news for many is that from a monday you can get your hair cut. more important for some than for others! . ~' , ., , more important for some than for others! ., ~ , ., , . covid restriction will be relaxed in scotland from today. up to four people from two households will be able to meet up outside, while up to 15 people can exercise together outside. first minister nicola sturgeon says the new rules are possible because of what she calls "good progress" in suppressing the virus. the uk's trade with the european union took a massive hit injanuary after the end of the brexit transition agreement. ben's got all the details for us. just tell us the story. good morning- _ just tell us the story. good morning- a _ just tell us the story. good morning. a whole - just tell us the story. good morning. a whole raft - just tell us the story. good morning. a whole raft of l just tell us the story. good - morning. a whole raft of figures published this morning. economic growth but also its trade with the eu. our biggest trading partner. we are told trade with the eu fell by 40% in january. are told trade with the eu fell by 40% injanuary. that was after the end of the brexit transition period. we expect that is probably down to two major factors. we expect that is probably down to two majorfactors. one was we expect that is probably down to two major factors. one was that many businesses are stockpiled parts, the resources they need to run their business. that was before the deadline to make sure they were not caught up in any delays. they filled their warehouses, got what they needed. we saw a spike in sales before the end of that deadline. the other issue is that we saw there was much publicised delays at the border, where trucks were struggling to get through both for covid reasons but also because they didn't have the right brexit a point. that has led to a slump in trade between continental europe and the uk. that will be watched particularly closely as the months progressed to see whether there are initial teething problems or a more fundamental change in the way we do business as a country. also this morning at the back of economic growth figures telling us that the economy overall shrank by nearly 3%. it did so because there was a further slump in retail, service sector, and in manufacturing. that of course because the uk was in its third national lockdown. no great surprise that the economy once again struggling to make any real progress and it is still nearly 10% smaller thanit and it is still nearly 10% smaller than it was before all of this crisis began to.— than it was before all of this crisis began to. thank you very much. crisis began to. thank you very much- let's — crisis began to. thank you very much. let's find _ crisis began to. thank you very much. let's find out _ crisis began to. thank you very much. let's find out what - crisis began to. thank you very much. let's find out what is . much. let's find out what is happening with the weather over the next couple of days. that is a lovely picture.— next couple of days. that is a lovely picture. next couple of days. that is a lovel icture. , . lovely picture. gives us a good clue as to what — lovely picture. gives us a good clue as to what is _ lovely picture. gives us a good clue as to what is happening _ lovely picture. gives us a good clue as to what is happening over- lovely picture. gives us a good clue as to what is happening over the i as to what is happening over the next few days. good morning. a lovely rainbow in lincolnshire. there will be more across the country today and this weekend. it is a sunshine and a shower story is if you see the shower is heavy with hail and thunder again like they were yesterday, at least at the winds are not quite as strong. the coolest diet and the breeze we have is pushing the showers in the west further and further east. started the day dry i cannot guarantee you will stay that way. some are white mixed in is an indication of hail and sleet and snow over the higher ground. those showers currently through the midlands will be in eastern england by the end of the morning rush hour today. then the afternoon across eastern areas looking drier and brighter, fewer showers but still show is coming and going just about anywhere. most frequent in the west and temperatures down yesterday, six to 9 degrees, maybe up to 12 in the south—east corner. that's in the sunshine. out of it it will feel cold, particularly as the wind rattled three. still touching was across south guild was across a link counties. longerspells across south guild was across a link counties. longer spells of rain in northern ireland, showers wintry on the hills in northern scotland. pushed along by those gusty winds. gusty winds will be with us through tonight and into tomorrow morning there will be more showers across there will be more showers across the country. more rain, lively winds through the english channel but overall as we go into tomorrow, the start of the weekend, it starts chilly, stays chilly all weekend but sunshine and showers will continue. thank you very much. see you later. see you then. thank you very much. see you later. see you then-— the disappearance of sarah everard has prompted women across the country to talk openly about the violence and harassment they have experienced, and to call for more to be done to keep women safe in public places. alpa patel has been speaking to women in south london about their experiences. clapham common — a place where many come to exercise, socialise, orjust pass through. like sarah everard — who is believed to have walked through here nine days ago, but was never seen again. her story now dominates many conversations on social media and here on clapham common. conversations like this one between freya and amelia that explore personal experiences of harassment. i even had it at the train station once. like, some guys were, like, behind me and they were like, "ooh, look," and i got really uncomfortable. and then they came round and they were like, "urgh, she's got an ugly face, though." |just be able to walk down the road| and not have them shout or whistle or toot the horn of their car or, like, go slowly past _ you in their car so they can check you out, like... - yeah, it'sjust not nice. we also met friends alex and leila. in the case of sarah everard, and in that particular context, i've never felt safe walking alone at night. as soon as the sun sets, it's a little bit scarier, a little bit more intense. i completely sympathise with a lot of the views that i'm seeing on social media. at this stage, i've got, like, an indelible ink spray. i've got keys between my fingers at all points. i've got an app on my phone that will go off and alert all my emergency contacts if i happen to scream. but there's too much pressure on us and what we need to be doing. the campaign group reclaim these streets hope to hold a vigil here on clapham common for sarah on saturday. it will also aim to highlight just how many women feel unsafe in public spaces, and just how angry some women are that that is part of everyday life. the experience of being in public spaces is different for women than it is for men, and we want to highlight that. we want to take back public spaces, show solidarity to each other, and hopefully help raise awareness with men who have actually been hugely receptive online about how they can help women feel safer, as well. vanita nowell. tracey kidd. nelly moustafa. zahida bi. yesterday, mpjess phillips read out the names of 118 women who had been killed over the last year. dead women is a thing we've alljust accepted as part of our daily lives. dead women isjust one of those things. killed women are not vanishingly rare. killed women are common. home secretary priti patel has said every woman should feel safe to walk our streets without fear of harassment or violence. but that reassurance is not enough for the women we met in clapham common. and she was literally doing everything like i would have done — she walked on a main road, she had bright clothing on, like, she called her boyfriend on the way home. if we're doing all those things that she did that we think, "oh, that might make us a bit safer," well, clearly it doesn't. so what do you do? alpa patel, bbc news. let's speak to maya tutton, who set up the campaign group our streets now and kirsten walkolm, who is a campaignerfor ending violence against women and a trustee of refuge. good morning to you both. i'd be really keen to hear from both of you. maya, whilst campaigning now so important to you? i you. maya, whilst campaigning now so important to you?— important to you? i first started the campaign — important to you? i first started the campaign with _ important to you? i first started the campaign with my _ important to you? i first started the campaign with my younger. important to you? i first started - the campaign with my younger sister when _ the campaign with my younger sister when she _ the campaign with my younger sister when she was 14 and restarted it then_ when she was 14 and restarted it then because of our own experiences of being _ then because of our own experiences of being sexually harassed in public and that _ of being sexually harassed in public and that started at an incredibly young _ and that started at an incredibly young age, like two thirds of schoolgirls in this country we have been _ schoolgirls in this country we have been sexually harassed. as younger girls _ been sexually harassed. as younger girls but _ been sexually harassed. as younger girls but i — been sexually harassed. as younger girls. but i think now it is coming to the _ girls. but i think now it is coming to the fore, — girls. but i think now it is coming to the fore, the hundreds and hundreds— to the fore, the hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of stories we are seeing _ hundreds and hundreds of stories we are seeing social media that there needs— are seeing social media that there needs collective action to be taken and on _ needs collective action to be taken and on a _ needs collective action to be taken and on a day like today and in the past week— and on a day like today and in the past week i— and on a day like today and in the past week i think it has been really devastating to see the stories on social_ devastating to see the stories on social media but i also really help it will_ social media but i also really help it will lead — social media but i also really help it will lead to cultural and legislative change which is why our streets _ legislative change which is why our streets now is really calling for movement into how we change in education — movement into how we change in education and societal values but also introducing specific legislation to tackle public sexual harassment in response to this. a lot of harassment in response to this. lot of these conversations we are hearing, kirsten, the unacceptable routine part of how women are living their lives for the potential of violence orjust being frightened. your personal experience and your driver getting involved is of a terrible incident, isn't it? yes. similarities— terrible incident, isn't it? yes. similarities between _ terrible incident, isn't it? yes. similarities between what - 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she wear? why did she live alone? had she ever met him and left - she wear? why did she live alone? had she ever met him and left an. had she ever met him and left an impression? _ had she ever met him and left an impression? these _ had she ever met him and left an impression? these questions - had she ever met him and left an. impression? these questions were unacceptable — impression? these questions were unacceptabte now— impression? these questions were unacceptable now and _ impression? these questions were unacceptable now and they - impression? these questions were unacceptable now and they are - impression? these questions were. unacceptable now and they are truly unacceptable — unacceptable now and they are truly unacceptable now. _ unacceptable now and they are truly unacceptable now. jess _ unacceptable now and they are truly unacceptable now. jess and - unacceptable now and they are truly unacceptable now. jess and sarah . unacceptable now. jess and sarah were _ unacceptable now. jess and sarah were independent, _ unacceptable now. jess and sarah were independent, incredible - unacceptable now. jess and sarah . were independent, incredible women and had _ were independent, incredible women and had the — were independent, incredible women and had the right— were independent, incredible women and had the right to _ were independent, incredible women and had the right to be _ were independent, incredible women and had the right to be safe, - were independent, incredible women and had the right to be safe, no- and had the right to be safe, no ntatter— and had the right to be safe, no matter where _ and had the right to be safe, no matter where they _ and had the right to be safe, no matter where they were - and had the right to be safe, no matter where they were no - and had the right to be safe, no. matter where they were no matter what they— matter where they were no matter what they did _ matter where they were no matter what they did and _ matter where they were no matter what they did and we _ matter where they were no matter what they did and we absolutely i matter where they were no matter. what they did and we absolutely need to change _ what they did and we absolutely need to change the — what they did and we absolutely need to change the narrative _ what they did and we absolutely need to change the narrative to _ what they did and we absolutely need to change the narrative to address - to change the narrative to address the rote _ to change the narrative to address the rote and — to change the narrative to address the role and responsibility- to change the narrative to address the role and responsibility that - to change the narrative to address i the role and responsibility that men also play— the role and responsibility that men also play in — the role and responsibility that men also play in helping _ the role and responsibility that men also play in helping to _ the role and responsibility that men also play in helping to end - the role and responsibility that men also play in helping to end violence | also play in helping to end violence against _ also play in helping to end violence against women _ also play in helping to end violence against women and _ also play in helping to end violence against women and girls. _ also play in helping to end violence against women and girls. in - against women and girls. practical terms, you have against women and girls.“ practical terms, you have looked against women and girls._ practical terms, you have looked at the concept of male allies, can you explain? the concept of male allies, can you exlain? ~ , , explain? absolutely. in these conversations _ explain? absolutely. in these conversations it _ explain? absolutely. in these conversations it is _ explain? absolutely. in these conversations it is really - explain? absolutely. in these - conversations it is really important for us to think about what men can do and what their role is and i think it is really, really important on a day like today and this week to men to reflect on their own behaviour and what they can do to help. i think it has to be collective. i would really echo what has been said. we need men to call out sexistjokes, do not allow has been said. we need men to call out sexist jokes, do not allow any sexual harassment to happen in their orbits, and that is in the workplace orbits, and that is in the workplace or public space. but also to join campaign groups that are calling for an end to this. we need men to take back to bystander training, we need meant to be male teachers, talking about this in school, i think it is so important that men are part of this station and we also would love men tojoin our streets this station and we also would love men to join our streets now as a campaign to call on the government to introduce specific legislation because i think it is so important to talk about the action we take as a society, to make sure that violence does end because currently it is pervasive and systemic and unfortunately normal. fin it is pervasive and systemic and unfortunately normal.— it is pervasive and systemic and unfortunately normal. on a practical level, we unfortunately normal. on a practical level. we have _ unfortunately normal. on a practical level, we have spoken, _ unfortunately normal. on a practical level, we have spoken, both - unfortunately normal. on a practical level, we have spoken, both of - unfortunately normal. on a practical level, we have spoken, both of you, about how women change their behaviour. physically change their behaviour. physically change their behaviour. it can be from holding the keys in your hand to not wearing headphones at night, listening to music, not going out for a run in the evening. on a practical note, what would men be able to do practically that proved their male allies that prove they are male allies, in terms of being conscious of what so many women do to modify their behaviour?— their behaviour? there are many ractical their behaviour? there are many practical steps — their behaviour? there are many practical steps in _ their behaviour? there are many practical steps in terms - their behaviour? there are many practical steps in terms of - their behaviour? there are many practical steps in terms of not i practical steps in terms of not walking behind women to close, crossing the road at night. you know, it being conscious of the way in which your behaviour might be interpreted. but i think also it is important to acknowledge that there was a research that found that one in three men in the uk had me sexually harassing comments to a woman in the last months online and off—line. this is really big. we are talking about significant proportions of the male population sexually harassing women. yes, we need meant to be alive but we need meant to stop being perpetrators, and i think to stop there was a victim blaming narratives, which do constantly place the onus on women having to change their behaviour when, realistically, there is nothing that individually we can do to stay safe because whether we are inside or outside, whatever we where and wherever we go, we are not safe as women in society.— as women in society. maya tutton, co-founder — as women in society. maya tutton, co-founder of _ as women in society. maya tutton, co-founder of our _ as women in society. maya tutton, co-founder of our streets - as women in society. maya tutton, co-founder of our streets now, . co—founder of our streets now, kirsten walkom, campaignerfor kirsten walkom, campaigner for ending kirsten walkom, campaignerfor ending violence against women and girls and trustee of refuge, thank you both for your time. a20 4am. earlier on breakfast we caught up with a former royal marine called mark ormrod. he was about to run five kilometres — that's just over three miles — for charity. this is a remarkable achievement. you will see why. mark lost both legs and an arm while serving in afghanistan — which means the entire run was powered by what he calls his "buns of steel". let's see how they are going. breakfast�*sjohn maguire was in devon to watch mark in action — let's find out how it went. bring us up to day. what has happened?— bring us up to day. what has hauened? �* , bring us up to day. what has hauened? ~ , . ., happened? about ten minutes ago, mike finished. _ happened? about ten minutes ago, mike finished, he _ happened? about ten minutes ago, mike finished, he didn't _ happened? about ten minutes ago, mike finished, he didn't really - mike finished, he didn't really incredibly well. we thought he was going to have to stop every four laps or so to adjust his prosthetics but he managed to make it all the way around —— mark finish. once them on the last lap when he lost some concentration. we will find out more in a couple of minutes. first we have been taking a look at mark's gruelling training. for this guy, the five k has been going down echo like going to hell and back. determination, focus, grit. they're qualities that mark ormrod needed to become a royal marine commando, to fight in afghanistan and crucially, to survive a bomb blast that destroyed his legs and one of his arms. yeah, nice, mate. lovely. and now he'll need those qualities once again, as he attempts to run five kilometres for charity. so, i'm not a particularly good runner with prosthetics anyway. it takes a lot of concentration for me to stay upright and to make sure my toes are where they need to be when the foot lands, so that i can keep going forward. and then, as i progress, and i start to fatigue, the concentration is affected. i can't hold a conversation or anything with anybody. i'm in my own little zone, just trying to get into a one, two, one, two rhythm, and thenjust mentally, keep on top of the burn what i'm going to feel in my glutes. he's no stranger to challenges. from riding 3,000 miles on his hand—powered bike, to winning medals at the invictus games. breathe, focus. his trainer, also a former royal marine, has created exercises tailor made for mark's abilities. he's got no quads, no hamstrings, no calf. so he's relying off basically one muscle group, which is his glutes. and most human beings are pretty lazy with the glutes, and most of us don't actually activate them when we're doing a lot of exercise. it's incredible, really. the fact of the matter is that i think, mentally, more than anything, is where mark gets his strength from. shoulder blades nice and tight. elbow a little bit higher. the way the kettlebell is upside down, it's unstable. so everything from my wrist, you've got it get it up. so all this side's screaming, this side's getting pulled down and it's just constantly pulling your core out of alignment. so it looks like i'm just walking with something heavy. but actually, my core, my glutes, everything's activated and working at the same time. it's a killer. he's raising money for reorg, a charity that uses a brazilian martial art to help military emergency services and veterans. six! three more. make sure we're touching that head, lets's go. seven! training in his garage has one advantage — some home support from his family. you've got all this, haven't you, to run wit? haven't you, to run with? these knees and these and these big feet! and i don't have any of them, do i? no. so, do i know what i have to use to run? your running legs! i use butt muscles, your bum muscles. yucky! yeah. that's what i use. what do you think — are you confident dad can do it? 100%? more than ioo%? let's see. one trillion, zillion, kazillion per cent! l that's confidence. less than five months after the explosion in 2007, mark stood shoulder to shoulder with his comrades from 40 commando as they returned from afghanistan. but today, apart from ben's support, he'll run alone, aiming to prove once again that what seems impossible can be made possible. he has proved it once again. let's talk to him. you look tired. i he has proved it once again. let's talk to him. you look tired. heel talk to him. you look tired. i feel tired. talk to him. you look tired. i feel tired- yeah _ talk to him. you look tired. i feel tired. yeah we _ talk to him. you look tired. i feel tired. yeah we didn't _ talk to him. you look tired. i feel tired. yeah we didn't have - talk to him. you look tired. i feel tired. yeah we didn't have much | tired. yeah we didn't have much training, — tired. yeah we didn't have much training, as— tired. yeah we didn't have much training, as you know. it evolved very— training, as you know. it evolved very quickly. we only did two training — very quickly. we only did two training runs prior to this. there are a _ training runs prior to this. there are a lot — training runs prior to this. there are a lot of— training runs prior to this. there are a lot of things that come along with missing three limbs. it is not 'ust with missing three limbs. it is not just running, there is a prosthetic issues, _ just running, there is a prosthetic issues, kit— just running, there is a prosthetic issues, kit issues, lots of stuff to deal with— issues, kit issues, lots of stuff to deal with on the hoof while we are running _ deal with on the hoof while we are running. we were quite lucky this nrorning — running. we were quite lucky this morning. the weather was good, the wind was _ morning. the weather was good, the wind was low, the track is phenomenal down here. the grip was good _ phenomenal down here. the grip was good the _ phenomenal down here. the grip was good. the lake stayed on. we factored — good. the lake stayed on. we factored in to what we stopped to remove _ factored in to what we stopped to remove the life, dry the sweat, reapply — remove the life, dry the sweat, reapply the like and keep going but somehow— reapply the like and keep going but somehow it stayed on, stay straight, didn't— somehow it stayed on, stay straight, didn't twist~ — somehow it stayed on, stay straight, didn't twist. the only issue was a lot of— didn't twist. the only issue was a lot of strain — didn't twist. the only issue was a lot of strain on my lower back but it is a _ lot of strain on my lower back but it is a short—term. we did it stop you out— it is a short—term. we did it stop you out really good. incredible. what _ you out really good. incredible. what is — you out really good. incredible. what is on _ you out really good. incredible. what is on your mind? you you out really good. incredible. what is on your mind? you don't have a lot of time — what is on your mind? you don't have a lot of time to _ what is on your mind? you don't have a lot of time to think— what is on your mind? you don't have a lot of time to think about _ a lot of time to think about anything else, just the physical act of running. anything else, 'ust the physical act of runnini. . i. anything else, 'ust the physical act of runnini. . ,, ., anything else, 'ust the physical act of runnini. . i. ., . of running. once you get to that oint, of running. once you get to that point. and _ of running. once you get to that point, and with _ of running. once you get to that point, and with these _ of running. once you get to that| point, and with these prosthetics you get— point, and with these prosthetics you get there quite quickly, you 'ust you get there quite quickly, you iust go— you get there quite quickly, you just go inside your mind and it is different — just go inside your mind and it is different. each time i ran i was thinking — different. each time i ran i was thinking about something different. thinking _ thinking about something different. thinking about the kind of mindset needed _ thinking about the kind of mindset needed to— thinking about the kind of mindset needed to deploy to get to the part where _ needed to deploy to get to the part where we _ needed to deploy to get to the part where we walk for a little bit, then the walking wasp you are focusing on trreathing. _ the walking wasp you are focusing on breathing, recovery as fast as possible. _ breathing, recovery as fast as possible, then off for the next month — possible, then off for the next month. change what we're thinking about, _ month. change what we're thinking about, something that will be strong and motivated and broke it down a step—by—step, lap by lap until we were _ step—by—step, lap by lap until we were done — step-by-step, lap by lap until we were done-— step-by-step, lap by lap until we were done. ~ . ., ,, ., . were done. what do you think of what our dad were done. what do you think of what your dad has — were done. what do you think of what your dad has done _ were done. what do you think of what your dad has done this _ were done. what do you think of what your dad has done this morning? - were done. what do you think of what your dad has done this morning? it'sl your dad has done this morning? it's really amazing how he can do it with prosthetic _ really amazing how he can do it with prosthetic legs — really amazing how he can do it with prosthetic legs and _ really amazing how he can do it with prosthetic legs and not _ really amazing how he can do it with prosthetic legs and not legs - really amazing how he can do it with prosthetic legs and not legs like - really amazing how he can do it with prosthetic legs and not legs like we | prosthetic legs and not legs like we have _ prosthetic legs and not legs like we have. ., . . , . , have. you ran the last lap with him, that ave have. you ran the last lap with him, that gave him _ have. you ran the last lap with him, that gave him a _ have. you ran the last lap with him, that gave him a real— have. you ran the last lap with him, that gave him a real boost, - have. you ran the last lap with him, that gave him a real boost, a - have. you ran the last lap with him, that gave him a real boost, a lot - have. you ran the last lap with him, that gave him a real boost, a lot of| that gave him a real boost, a lot of support. great yes.— support. great yes. needed that. when we spoke _ support. great yes. needed that. when we spoke to _ support. great yes. needed that. when we spoke to you _ support. great yes. needed that. when we spoke to you the - support. great yes. needed that. when we spoke to you the otherl support. great yes. needed that. i when we spoke to you the other day support. great yes. needed that. - when we spoke to you the other day i asked how confident are you aware about your dad completing the run. can you remember how confident you told me you were?— told me you were? same about you were super-confident _ told me you were? same about you were super-confident stop - told me you were? same about you were super-confident stop growing | were super—confident stop growing too much _ were super—confident stop growing too much confidence, _ were super—confident stop growing too much confidence, i— were super—confident stop growing too much confidence, i can't - too much confidence, ican't remember— too much confidence, i can't remember it _ too much confidence, ican't remember it. [it— too much confidence, i can't remember it.— too much confidence, i can't remember it. . , . ., remember it. it was about bazillion ercent. remember it. it was about bazillion percent- the _ remember it. it was about bazillion percent. the dreaded _ remember it. it was about bazillion percent. the dreaded words, - remember it. it was about bazillion percent. the dreaded words, what| remember it. it was about bazillion l percent. the dreaded words, what is next? . . . percent. the dreaded words, what is next? . , , ., ~ percent. the dreaded words, what is next? , . ,, . . next? then has been talking about an 0 en water next? then has been talking about an open water sea _ next? then has been talking about an open water sea swim, _ next? then has been talking about an open water sea swim, which - next? then has been talking about an open water sea swim, which i - next? then has been talking about an open water sea swim, which i think i open water sea swim, which i think is about— open water sea swim, which i think is about one — open water sea swim, which i think is about one kilometre. i know less about— is about one kilometre. i know less about sea _ is about one kilometre. i know less about sea swimming than i do about running _ about sea swimming than i do about running so _ about sea swimming than i do about running so i — about sea swimming than i do about running so i have no clue. i would put myself — running so i have no clue. i would put myself in a ben's more than capable — put myself in a ben's more than capable hands and this time hopefully we will set a target that gives _ hopefully we will set a target that gives us _ hopefully we will set a target that gives us more time to train. keeping it local— gives us more time to train. keeping it local in _ gives us more time to train. keeping it local in plymouth. in 37 years of living _ it local in plymouth. in 37 years of living in— it local in plymouth. in 37 years of living in plymouth i have never been to the _ living in plymouth i have never been to the island, so i think that will be a _ to the island, so i think that will be a good — to the island, so i think that will be a good sea swim. we are going to swim _ be a good sea swim. we are going to swim out— be a good sea swim. we are going to swim out there, at least. use be a good sea swim. we are going to swim out there, at least.— swim out there, at least. use in the invictus games. _ swim out there, at least. use in the invictus games. well, _ swim out there, at least. use in the invictus games. well, my _ swim out there, at least. use in the invictus games. well, my version . swim out there, at least. use in the| invictus games. well, my version of swimming — invictus games. well, my version of swimming. surviving, _ invictus games. well, my version of swimming. surviving, if— invictus games. well, my version of swimming. surviving, if you - invictus games. well, my version of swimming. surviving, if you like. i swimming. surviving, if you like. it's swimming. surviving, if you like. it's not _ swimming. surviving, if you like. it's not easy. i cannot kit with my feet, _ it's not easy. i cannot kit with my feet, i_ it's not easy. i cannot kit with my feet, i cannot use my right arm. it's feet, i cannot use my right arm. it's all— feet, i cannot use my right arm. it's all about technique and breathing and just doing everything with the _ breathing and just doing everything with the left arm which i am sure you can _ with the left arm which i am sure you can imagine burns very quickly. i you can imagine burns very quickly. i asked _ you can imagine burns very quickly. i asked you — you can imagine burns very quickly. i asked you earlier for those who didn't catch it, why do you keep putting yourself through this? i putting yourself through this? i don't know. it's a little bit of it is selfish — don't know. it's a little bit of it is selfish in _ don't know. it's a little bit of it is selfish in that i like to keep pushing — is selfish in that i like to keep pushing myself and see what i can do but because of the world i live in with military charities and just trying — with military charities and just trying to— with military charities and just trying to do what i can to say thank you for— trying to do what i can to say thank you for the — trying to do what i can to say thank you for the help they have given me and my— you for the help they have given me and my family, it is nice to combine two things — and my family, it is nice to combine two things i— and my family, it is nice to combine two things. i can push myself, challenge _ two things. i can push myself, challenge myself and raise money at the same _ challenge myself and raise money at the same time. itjust works. do challenge myself and raise money at the same time. itjust works.- the same time. it 'ust works. do you want some _ the same time. it 'ust works. do you want some good — the same time. itjust works. do you want some good news? _ the same time. itjust works. do you want some good news? go - the same time. itjust works. do you want some good news? go on. i i the same time. itjust works. do you| want some good news? go on. i have 'ust want some good news? go on. i have just refresh — want some good news? go on. i have just refresh your— want some good news? go on. i have just refresh yourjustgiving _ want some good news? go on. i have just refresh yourjustgiving page. i just refresh yourjustgiving page. so far you have raised 100,000. isn't that brilliant?— so far you have raised 100,000. i isn't that brilliant?_ an isn't that brilliant? happy days. an incredible achievement. _ incredible achievement. congratulations to the family. what is tonight? a bit of rest and recuperation?— is tonight? a bit of rest and recueration? . ., �* ~' ., recuperation? yeah, i don't know if i can dro recuperation? yeah, i don't know if i can dr0p any _ recuperation? yeah, i don't know if i can drop any names _ recuperation? yeah, i don't know if i can drop any names so _ recuperation? yeah, i don't know if i can drop any names so i _ recuperation? yeah, i don't know if i can drop any names so i am i recuperation? yeah, i don't know if i can drop any names so i am just l i can drop any names so i am just going— i can drop any names so i am just going to— i can drop any names so i am just going to say— i can drop any names so i am just going to say pizza. i won't mention any brand — going to say pizza. i won't mention any brand names. it is that by friday— any brand names. it is that by friday in— any brand names. it is that by friday in our house, we are going to id friday in our house, we are going to go back, _ friday in our house, we are going to go back, watch a movie, and pizza pizza _ go back, watch a movie, and pizza pizza -- _ go back, watch a movie, and pizza pizza —— fatboy friday to go back, watch a movie, and pizza pizza -- fatboy friday to— pizza -- fatboy friday to great stuff. 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they're seeking a high court appeal, after police said the event couldn't go ahead due to covid restrictions. members of the group reclaim these streets were planning to meet on saturday evening in clapham, close to where the 33—year—old went missing. they claim police allowed the gathering to take place, but then said they'd receive fines if it went ahead. a met spokesperson said they remain in discussion with organisers in light of current covid regulations. new figures have shown that cancer referrals and treatments have dropped again in london. january saw around 7,000 fewer londoners see a cancer specialist following an urgent gp referral since the same time last year. and 600 fewer people have started their treatment — that's a drop of 18%. the london marathon trust celebrates its 40th anniversary this weekend. it's delivered more than £93 million in funding to sports projects throughout its lifetime, the most recent being a bmx track in harrow. it opened in october and has been allowed to stay open during lockdown as a play facility. opening a track like this really puts bmx—ing and biking in generaljust out there. but i see lots of my friends here, and i'm still allowed to see them, given, obviously, covid regulations. and i think it provides an exercise which, i think, is very difficult to get nowadays. let's take a look at the travel situation now. there's a good service on the tubes this morning — minor delays on london overground. thameslink services are running with delays of up to 30 minutes between st pancras and blackfriars because of a broken down train. in hanworth, one lane is closed for roadworks in both directions on the a316 great chertsey road near the hospital bridge roundabout. in hackney, westgate street is closed in both directions between mare street and sheep lane due to water mains repairs. in enfield, two lanes are blocked on aio great cambridge road northbound at the junction with carterhatch lane for traffic lights repairs. now the weather with kate kinsella. good morning. it's going to be another blustery day today. the wind perhaps not quite as strong as it was yesterday morning, but still it is fairly fresh. so, showers mixed in there as well. we'll see one or two of those first thing this morning, moving away on the breeze, however. still a risk in the afternoon, but some bright spells, some sunny spells. the temperature reaching 11 celsius, but factor in that wind and it is going to feel a little chillier. overnight tonight, again we are going to see further showers. the wind, in fact, strengthens as we head through tonight into tomorrow morning, pushing towards us some more prolonged spells of rain through the early hours. gusts of wind, 40 to 45 mph, widely. temperatures overnight between four and six celsius. as we head into the weekend, it is going to be quite breezy tomorrow, that rain clearing first thing. dry with sunny spells in the afternoon. again, temperatures remain similar. similar conditions for sunday, but the windfalls a little bit lighter. into next week, high pressure starts to move in, so the weather becomes a little more settled. i'm back with the latest from the bbc london newsroom in half an hour. plenty more on our website at the usual address. bye for now. hello, this is breakfast with charlie stayt and naga munchetty. morning live is on bbc one at 9.15. let's find out what's on today's programme with kym and gethin. thanks, naga and charlie. coming up on morning live, one of the positives about the pandemic is that it's changed attitudes towards fitness and mental health, it's also forced the nhs to get creative when it comes to caring. today, we meet one gp, who — instead of medicine — has been prescribing gardening. it's all systems go on countryfile's adam henson's farm — piglets, goats and calves are being born as we speak. we'll find out how stressed he is. and if you're feeling stressed out today, don't worry, because matt allwright is going to help us chill out with a spot of modern meditation. forget the yoga pants and gongs, we meet a bunch of railway workers in leeds who've swapped welding for well—being and have never felt better. from chilled out to fired up — will kirk's got a spectacular masterclass lined up. i'll be showing you the art of pyrography. it's basically burning wood using a special pen to create stuff like this. he'll also be answering your wood work related questions, so if you have a burning query, get in touch with us right now. he doesn't know this yet, but he'll also be talking part in our red nose day does treat people with kindness dance challenge. i wonder if he's got the moves like harry styles? and talking of comic relief, alexjones will be giving us an exclusive update on the one show�*s red nose and spoon race. as we'll be hearing, things are getting pretty tough. all that and more at 9.15. look forward to it. came, i am with you, i always call out myjokes, but probably because nobody else gets them. i probably because nobody else gets them. ~ . probably because nobody else gets them. ,, . , probably because nobody else gets them. ~ . . , probably because nobody else gets them. ,, . , , them. i think that is why i was doini them. i think that is why i was doin: it. mike's here. good morning. returning to a very important issue in sport at the moment, the potential link between sport and dementia. earlier this week we had the moving story of hayley mcqueen talking about her dad, former scotland international gordon mcqueen, talking about how it is affecting herfamily. saying gordon mcqueen, talking about how it is affecting her family. saying what gave him so much love is taking so much away from them. it is affecting a growing number of professionals. we've been following the story of a possible link between sports such as football and rugby, and dementia, which may be caused by head trauma, such as heading the ball. it's a condition more and more ex—professionals and their families are having to live with. and breakfast�*s graham satchell has been to meet, former england footballer dave watson, and former wales rugby international alix popham, who have both been diagnosed with the condition, to see how they are managing. hughes couldn't make it, but watson did! dave watson, scoring with his head for sunderland in their 1973 fa cup run. watson's fourth goal in the fa cup competition. watson was an uncompromising, tough tackling centre half. nobody picked him up and a very solid header gave barber no chance. if the ball's there, i'm going to win it. yeah. that's, eh... you were a fighter. i was a fighter, yeah. coppel takes. watson is there, and scores very, very easily. for sunderland, man city, notts county, southampton and here, for england, dave watson's repeated heading of the ball has taken its toll. he's been diagnosed with dementia. dave watson got up at the far post. it is not something that happens overnight, but it... ..slowly nibbles at your memory. and if there was a pole, you know, the... ..i'm not near the top at the moment. right from the first _ at notts county, you used to go back and do extra heading. when you were at southampton you and chris nichol used to be| heading the ball from one end of the gym inside, backwardsi and forwards, constantly, for hours. yeah. dave is among a growing number of former footballers to be diagnosed with dementia. penny, critical of the footballers' union, the pfa, who she says are not giving enough assistance. the older guys, they need the help now. i and most of the guys are justl going to get worse and worse, because we know it's not i going to get any better, is it? no. we know it's not going to get any better. i there's only one way it's going to go. i it'll give alix popham the chance. this is welsh international rugby player alix popham, who played for his country 33 times, but can't remember many of the games. alix popham, who came on as a sub... i should have vivid memories of that. yeah. i know, i know i had a good game now, after watching it back. but i've just got, yeah, no memories of that game. and there's lots of chunks of my career exactly the same. what's that? alix is 41. he has three daughters, his youngest just two. he was diagnosed with early onset dementia last year. doctors told him he'd had more than 100,000 sub—concussions in his career. it turned our world upside down. there's no getting away from that. that first weekend was just awful. it was really tough. i mean, it is still tough. there is still no treatment, no cure. those words were ringing in my head for, you know, a good few weeks after the diagnosis. alix has given his backing to new research, an app designed for athletes, fans, everyone. it measures finger dexterity, tracks eye movement. hamza selim, who developed the app, says data from those who have already used it, shows the clear consequences of any form of concussion. if you had had evenjust one concussion actually, you are 2.7 times more likely to develop a neurological disease later on in life. it's notjust the elite athletes that could potentially be at risk. but it's your grassroots players, it's, your, you know, workplace injuries. and that's something that i think we really need to get hold of, and something we're further investigating through the sporting mindset campaign. the referee looks at the watch. and sunderland have won the cup. the fa cup final, 1973. against all the odds, second division sunderland victorious against the mighty leeds, dave watson voted man of the match. and dave said this many times when the question is being posed — if you'd known what you were going to have, would you change anything? and you say. . ? no, i wouldn't. you know. erm. .. do you look back on your career with pride, dave? i do. nine minutes gone, and dave watson scores for england. _ "everyone knows how much the 1973 cup final team means to the club, and we wish you and your family well." dave has paid a heavy price for his sporting greatness. the football and rugby governing bodies, and the pfa, say they're working on solutions to better protect players. but the consensus among former players is much more needs to be done to help those already affected, and to protect the next generation. graham satchell, bbc news. so what further support can be given to families going through this? richard bevan is from the league managers association and is also part of the, sport united against dementia campaign. hejoins us now. this good morning. thank you for your time. the list of former professionals seems to be growing. it feels like a whole generation of players at risk and it is always distressing to hear their accounts. what can you say to those concerned and their families? what can you say to those concerned and theirfamilies? first what can you say to those concerned and their families?— and their families? first of all, i think everybody _ and their families? first of all, i think everybody recognises i and their families? first of all, i think everybody recognises that | think everybody recognises that dementia is the biggest global health— dementia is the biggest global health challenge of our time. it is the biggest killer in the uk. i think— the biggest killer in the uk. i think the _ the biggest killer in the uk. i think the link between concussion and dementia is obviously very strong — and dementia is obviously very strong. there is a lot of work that has gone — strong. there is a lot of work that has gone into research. many sports are working — has gone into research. many sports are working with medical experts. what _ are working with medical experts. what i _ are working with medical experts. what i have seen definitely at the last 12 _ what i have seen definitely at the last 12 months is more joined up thinking — last 12 months is more joined up thinking than in the past, less duplication. a much clearer strategy _ duplication. a much clearer strategy. the momentum is building in terms _ strategy. the momentum is building in terms of— strategy. the momentum is building in terms of support. we need to continue — in terms of support. we need to continue to— in terms of support. we need to continue to galvanise all the parties _ continue to galvanise all the parties to look at our brain, to provide — parties to look at our brain, to provide the mot that will keep people — provide the mot that will keep people staying healthy and safe and reducing _ people staying healthy and safe and reducing long—term impact of concussions as well. reducing long-term impact of concussions as well.— reducing long-term impact of concussions as well. let's pick up on the app _ concussions as well. let's pick up on the app we — concussions as well. let's pick up on the app we saw _ concussions as well. let's pick up on the app we saw in _ concussions as well. let's pick up on the app we saw in the - concussions as well. let's pick up on the app we saw in the sport. l concussions as well. let's pick up i on the app we saw in the sport. how can this help? the on the app we saw in the sport. how can this help?— can this help? the app detects early warnin: can this help? the app detects early warning signs _ can this help? the app detects early warning signs and _ can this help? the app detects early warning signs and risk _ can this help? the app detects early warning signs and risk factors i can this help? the app detects early warning signs and risk factors of- warning signs and risk factors of dementia — warning signs and risk factors of dementia. it is a research tool really~ — dementia. it is a research tool really. they can turbo—charge the understanding of neurological disorders. what i really like about it is it _ disorders. what i really like about it is it has — disorders. what i really like about it is it has been built by medical professionals themselves, with the help of— professionals themselves, with the help of those people living with dementia. i think you can empower people _ dementia. i think you can empower people to _ dementia. i think you can empower people to take control of their brain— people to take control of their brain health. but it is not a diagnostic tool. it can't diagnose neurological disorders or concussions, nor is it a replacement for visiting _ concussions, nor is it a replacement for visiting the doctor. but it can tell users— for visiting the doctor. but it can tell users if— for visiting the doctor. but it can tell users if they have signs of dementia _ tell users if they have signs of dementia and can produce some fantastic— dementia and can produce some fantastic data for research. i think they are _ fantastic data for research. i think they are looking to get 50,000 plus downloads. that they are looking to get 50,000 plus downloads. . . they are looking to get 50,000 plus downloads. . , �* , . ~ downloads. that is right. let's talk about some _ downloads. that is right. let's talk about some of _ downloads. that is right. let's talk about some of the _ downloads. that is right. let's talk about some of the practical - about some of the practical measures. last year coaches were told to restrict the number of headers in training for under 18. they are looking to limit the number of head —— heading drills teams do in training. last month we saw the first trials of the so—called concussion substitutes. we are still hearing from prominent figures like alan shearer and chris sutton that not enough action is being taken? i not enough action is being taken? i don't think we can ever do enough, to be _ don't think we can ever do enough, to be honest. we have 150,000 people suffering _ to be honest. we have 150,000 people suffering from dementia. indeed, 1.5 million _ suffering from dementia. indeed, 1.5 million plus— suffering from dementia. indeed, 1.5 million plus carers. it is a major amount— million plus carers. it is a major amount of— million plus carers. it is a major amount of work that needs to be done _ amount of work that needs to be done. looking closely at what the different — done. looking closely at what the different stakeholders are doing, i think the _ different stakeholders are doing, i think the medical experts have actually— think the medical experts have actually got their act together. and there _ actually got their act together. and there is— actually got their act together. and there is a _ actually got their act together. and there is a much clearer strategy. we 'ust there is a much clearer strategy. we just need _ there is a much clearer strategy. we just need to — there is a much clearer strategy. we just need to make sure the right levels _ just need to make sure the right levels of— just need to make sure the right levels of investment and commitment are put— levels of investment and commitment are put in— levels of investment and commitment are put in in— levels of investment and commitment are put in in order to help, not only— are put in in order to help, not only support those who have dementia at the _ only support those who have dementia at the moment, but also ensure that the future _ at the moment, but also ensure that the future is — at the moment, but also ensure that the future is a much better place. from _ the future is a much better place. from a _ the future is a much better place. from a league managers association perspective we provide assessments, mental— perspective we provide assessments, mental and _ perspective we provide assessments, mental and emotional well—being mental and emotional well— being support— mental and emotional well— being support etc. mental and emotional well—being support etc. but in the end, hopefully, the medical experts will come _ hopefully, the medical experts will come up _ hopefully, the medical experts will come up with the right answer. and our vision _ come up with the right answer. and our vision is — come up with the right answer. and our vision is obviously a world without— our vision is obviously a world without dementia. but until we get there. _ without dementia. but until we get there. we — without dementia. but until we get there, we need to create a society in which _ there, we need to create a society in which people with dementia are able to— in which people with dementia are able to do— in which people with dementia are able to do as well and live as long as possible. pure able to do as well and live as long as possible-— as possible. are we still playing catch op? _ as possible. are we still playing catch up? is _ as possible. are we still playing catch up? is it— as possible. are we still playing catch up? is it being _ as possible. are we still playing catch up? is it being dealt i as possible. are we still playing catch up? is it being dealt with| catch up? is it being dealt with quickly enough, do you think? i quickly enough, do you think? i think we are playing catch up. but i think— think we are playing catch up. but i think the _ think we are playing catch up. but i think the momentum, we always use the word _ think the momentum, we always use the word momentum in sport, but i think— the word momentum in sport, but i think the _ the word momentum in sport, but i think the momentum is there. less duplication— think the momentum is there. less duplication as well. a little bit more — duplication as well. a little bit more centralised thinking. and possibly— more centralised thinking. and possibly sport plc really working closely — possibly sport plc really working closely together to address the problems in support of the people that really need it. find problems in support of the people that really need it.— that really need it. and a parliamentary _ that really need it. and a parliamentary enquiry i that really need it. and a parliamentary enquiry is | that really need it. and a i parliamentary enquiry is now that really need it. and a - parliamentary enquiry is now under way. what would you like to see come out of this, richard? j way. what would you like to see come out of this, richard?— out of this, richard? i think again, 'ust out of this, richard? i think again, just dragging _ out of this, richard? i think again, just dragging all— out of this, richard? i think again, just dragging all of— out of this, richard? i think again, just dragging all of the _ out of this, richard? i think again, just dragging all of the parties i just dragging all of the parties together. centralised thinking. making — together. centralised thinking. making sure the right levels of investment and the right people are dragging _ investment and the right people are dragging the programmes —— where driving _ dragging the programmes —— where driving the — dragging the programmes —— where driving the programme is to get the i’ili'it driving the programme is to get the right results. driving the programme is to get the right results-— right results. thank you for your time. it right results. thank you for your time- it is _ right results. thank you for your time. it is an _ right results. thank you for your time. it is an ongoing _ right results. thank you for your time. it is an ongoing story. i right results. thank you for your time. it is an ongoing story. the professional footballers association union is funding more research into the potential links between dementia and sports, and issues like heading the ball. we have seen already at grass roots, under 18 is, the restriction on heading at training. a lot less emphasis than they used to be. that is coming into professional football as well. it is encouraging players to step back and do less. less heading drills. but it is part and parcel of the game still. mike, thank you. still. mike, thank ou. a still. mike, thank ou. , . , ., let's have a look outside this morning. matt, when we looked at this view yesterday, it looked like the open sea out there it was so choppy. it is calmer but it has a gloomy look about it?— choppy. it is calmer but it has a gloomy look about it? skies will bri . hten. gloomy look about it? skies will brighten- lt _ gloomy look about it? skies will brighten. it will— gloomy look about it? skies will brighten. it will be _ gloomy look about it? skies will brighten. it will be one - gloomy look about it? skies will brighten. it will be one of i gloomy look about it? skies will brighten. it will be one of those | brighten. it will be one of those days when skies change from one error to the next. as you can see with that will come some spectacular views. the best rainbow of the morning in gloucestershire. it will be a day of sunshine and some pretty nasty downpours. hail and thunder likely. the winds not quite as strong. still blustery though. those winds are strong enough to blow the west. they will blow further east. still some people getting away with it. dry in the eastern counties of ingot. those showers are never too far away. as you can see though, things turning a little bit drier across the west. a little window of quieter weather here compared... that will push eastwards through the day. whilst we have the showers at the moment, icy conditions in scotland. for england and wales at least through the middle part of the day, fewer showers. one or two will stage right. showers in the west of scotland and northern ireland. it could turn wetter in northern ireland at the end of the afternoon into the evening. it will be a cool day when those showers go through. temperatures taking a dip. when the showers come through it will be closer to three to seven celsius. the winds at their gusty list along english channel coast. 12 —— a0 to 50 ma per august. lower than yesterday. that will change for those around southern counties tonight. 60 to 70 mph. rain possible anywhere overnight. sleet and snow over the hills of southern scotland and northern england. when skies are clear in scotland, may be northern ireland later, a touch of frost to take you into the start of the weekend. forthe take you into the start of the weekend. for the weekend, the big picture has low pressure which brings rain to the north—east. high pressure brings dry weather to the southend west. in between —— where we are somewhere in between. the weather will be flip—flopping from something dried to something wetter. sleet showers around on saturday morning. drier in southern and eastern england and eastern scotland. showers will never be too far away. a similar date of the day. showers will be heavy with hail and thunder, wintry of a high ground. temperatures down on today. and then a colder night will follow to take us through saturday night into sunday. a bright start for many. morning probably best for most of you on sunday. but through the day, clouding over from the west. rain times for northern ireland and southern scotland, eventually northern ireland and wales. nothing too substantial. a cool weekend. rain around, but there will be a decent amount of sunshine as well. enjoy. thanks, matt. 8:53am. caroline flack was known as one of the most charismatic presenters on television, and there was a huge outpouring of grief when she took her own life last year. now, a new documentary paints a picture of a complex celebrity who, beneath the surface, was struggling with her mental health. in the film — which airs on channel a next week — her mother christine talks of her regret about missed chances to spend time together. she used to say to me, "oh, i've got this, mum, you come in with me", or, "we'll go here, we'll go there", and i'd say, "oh, i've got to work", and i did have to work. and, oh... do you know, charlie, itjust... ..shouldn't... all the times you sort of miss with someone, and you should just... ..just do it, shouldn't you? let's speak now to our entertainment correspondent, colin paterson. morning, colin. obviously a very emotional documentary and caroline�*s family very keen to pay tribute to her and remember all of her?— remember all of her? yeah, absolutely- _ remember all of her? yeah, absolutely. this _ remember all of her? yeah, absolutely. this is _ remember all of her? yeah, absolutely. this is the - remember all of her? yeah, absolutely. this is the first i remember all of her? yeah, - absolutely. this is the first time that caroline flack's mother and her sister_ that caroline flack's mother and her sister have — that caroline flack's mother and her sister have spoken about her death. it was _ sister have spoken about her death. it was last— sister have spoken about her death. it was last february when caroline flack _ it was last february when caroline flack club —— took her own life while — flack club —— took her own life while awaiting trial for assaulting her boyfriend. i have the family agreed — her boyfriend. i have the family agreed to— her boyfriend. i have the family agreed to do this? they say it is because — agreed to do this? they say it is because after caroline flack's death, — because after caroline flack's death, the press continued to print lies about — death, the press continued to print lies about her. they want their chance — lies about her. they want their chance to _ lies about her. they want their chance to set the record straight. they— chance to set the record straight. they also — chance to set the record straight. they also say they want to remind people _ they also say they want to remind people just how loved caroline flack was as _ people just how loved caroline flack was as a _ people just how loved caroline flack was as a tv — people just how loved caroline flack was as a tv presenter when she was doing _ was as a tv presenter when she was doing love _ was as a tv presenter when she was doing love island or the extra factor — doing love island or the extra factor. and also, caroline flack had been _ factor. and also, caroline flack had been working with these documentary makers _ been working with these documentary makers on _ been working with these documentary makers on a film about her life before — makers on a film about her life before she died. and had asked her mum _ before she died. and had asked her mum and _ before she died. and had asked her mum and her sisterto before she died. and had asked her mum and her sister to collaborate on it. mum and her sister to collaborate on it they— mum and her sister to collaborate on it they felt _ mum and her sister to collaborate on it. they felt it was the right thing to do. _ it. they felt it was the right thing to do. to — it. they felt it was the right thing to do, to make this film. now it's a very revealing film. in it, mother and sister— very revealing film. in it, mother and sister go into caroline flack's nrental— and sister go into caroline flack's mental health problems, her depression, that she had had since the 1990s — depression, that she had had since the 1990s. and they detail a pattern of her— the 1990s. and they detail a pattern of her inability to deal with heartbreak. they speak out going back to _ heartbreak. they speak out going back to the 1990s, each time she had a major— back to the 1990s, each time she had a major break up with a boyfriend, she often— a major break up with a boyfriend, she often ended up in hospital, either— she often ended up in hospital, either because she was self—harming or because _ either because she was self—harming or because of a suicide attempt, and this happened again and again. the documentary also deals with her struggle — documentary also deals with her struggle with social media, a reading — struggle with social media, a reading one bad comment about herself— reading one bad comment about herself on— reading one bad comment about herself on social media can really set her— herself on social media can really set her off— herself on social media can really set her off into a spiral. we are going _ set her off into a spiral. we are going to — set her off into a spiral. we are going to see that a section of the documentary now. we are going to hear from — documentary now. we are going to hear from olly murs, her agent of ten years. — hear from olly murs, her agent of ten years, polly hill, her mum christine, _ ten years, polly hill, her mum christine, dermot 0'leary and dermot 0'leary's_ christine, dermot 0'leary and dermot 0'leary's wife, a good friend of caroline — 0'leary's wife, a good friend of caroline flack. her _ caroline flack. her rise to fame coincided with the rise of social media. i think she was in a kind of weird cat and mouse game with social media, with press, with fame. she game with social media, with press, with fame. ,, ., , , with fame. she hated it but she couldn't be _ with fame. she hated it but she couldn't be without _ with fame. she hated it but she couldn't be without it. - with fame. she hated it but she couldn't be without it. yeah. i with fame. she hated it but she l couldn't be without it. yeah. the abuse she _ couldn't be without it. yeah. the abuse she was _ couldn't be without it. yeah. the abuse she was getting, - couldn't be without it. yeah. the abuse she was getting, it - couldn't be without it. yeah. the abuse she was getting, it was i couldn't be without it. new the abuse she was getting, it was awful, awful~ _ abuse she was getting, it was awful, awful. bite _ abuse she was getting, it was awful, awful. ~ , ., ., ., awful. we did try quite hard to wean her off social — awful. we did try quite hard to wean her off social media, _ awful. we did try quite hard to wean her off social media, but _ awful. we did try quite hard to wean her off social media, but actually, i her off social media, but actually, i don't think we ever really got a handle on that, unfortunately. i used to say to her, just don't read it, used to say to her, just don't read it. get— used to say to her, just don't read it. get rid — used to say to her, just don't read it. get rid of— used to say to her, just don't read it, get rid of your phone. but she would _ it, get rid of your phone. but she would be — it, get rid of your phone. but she would be on _ it, get rid of your phone. but she would be on it constantly. you will try to _ would be on it constantly. you will try to talk — would be on it constantly. you will try to talk to her but she would be looking _ try to talk to her but she would be looking at — try to talk to her but she would be looking at her phone. then instead affect her every — looking at her phone. then instead affect her every day. _ looking at her phone. then instead affect her every day. comments i looking at her phone. then instead| affect her every day. comments did hurt her. affect her every day. comments did hurt her- it — affect her every day. comments did hurt her. it was _ affect her every day. comments did hurt her. it was likely _ affect her every day. comments did hurt her. it was likely destroying i hurt her. it was likely destroying her, _ hurt her. it was likely destroying her. i_ hurt her. it was likely destroying her, i would say. she was suffering, basically~ _ her, i would say. she was suffering, basically. and then when you did see her face—to—face nothing would get mentioned. it would be, yeah, i'm fine, _ mentioned. it would be, yeah, i'm fine, whereas obviously she wasn't fine~ _ fine, whereas obviously she wasn't fine~ yeah — fine, whereas obviously she wasn't fine. yeah. it�*s fine, whereas obviously she wasn't fine- yeah-— fine. yeah. it's very difficult to know the _ fine. yeah. it's very difficult to know the extent _ fine. yeah. it's very difficult to know the extent of _ fine. yeah. it's very difficult to know the extent of someone's| know the extent of someone's problems if they tell you, if they sweep them under the carpet. she 'ust hit it sweep them under the carpet. she just hit it so _ sweep them under the carpet. she just hit it so well. i think that's the thing _ just hit it so well. i think that's the thing. she hit it so well. for me the — the thing. she hit it so well. for me the only warning signs were the addiction _ me the only warning signs were the addiction to self —— social media. you definitely saw that progressing over the _ you definitely saw that progressing over the years and that then grew and grew— over the years and that then grew and grew and didn't really stop and id and grew and didn't really stop and go away~ _ go away. colin, there are a go away. — colin, there are a number of contributors, obviously family, but many people to worked with over the years, olly murs included. his contributions, they were very close, weren't they? and clearly, her death made a real impact on him?- made a real impact on him? yeah, oll murs made a real impact on him? yeah, olly murs and _ made a real impact on him? yeah, olly murs and caroline _ made a real impact on him? yeah, olly murs and caroline flack- made a real impact on him? yeah, olly murs and caroline flack had . olly murs and caroline flack had four very— olly murs and caroline flack had four very successful years hosting the x _ four very successful years hosting the x factor spin off show on itv2. he speaks— the x factor spin off show on itv2. he speaks about what happy times they were. then they got promoted to hosting _ they were. then they got promoted to hosting another x factor show and said how— hosting another x factor show and said how difficult that was for him. when _ said how difficult that was for him. when you — said how difficult that was for him. when you see the documentary you will see _ when you see the documentary you will see how much it had affected hinr~ _ will see how much it had affected him. ~ , will see how much it had affected him. y . will see how much it had affected him. g . , will see how much it had affected him. g ., , , him. my heart breaks every time i think of caroline _ him. my heart breaks every time i think of caroline and _ him. my heart breaks every time i think of caroline and i _ him. my heart breaks every time i think of caroline and i think - him. my heart breaks every time i think of caroline and i think about| think of caroline and i think about what she would have had to come through to have taken her own life. and that is going to hurt for a long time. because there is... we were great together. all that talent, all that love, all the joy— all that talent, all that love, all the joy that she brought myjust gone~ _ gone. she has gone. it's _ she has gone. it'sjust horrible. you feel like saying. — it'sjust horrible. you feel like saying, come on, you've made your point _ saying, come on, you've made your point now. — saying, come on, you've made your point now, come back. we've all listen, _ point now, come back. we've all listen, we've heard and i am sorry. thanks— listen, we've heard and i am sorry. thanks to — listen, we've heard and i am sorry. thanks to colin. you can watch caroline flack: her life and death on channel a on wednesday, at 9pm. this is bbc news with the latest headlines. scotland yard will be investigated over its handling of an allegation of indecent exposure against the officer suspected of murdering sarah everard. the organisers of a vigil for sarah everard will go to court today to try to get permission for it to go ahead — after being told a gathering would break lockdown rules. uk exports to the european union fell by more than a0% injanuary, the first month of trading under new, post—brexit arrangements. the slump has been blamed on firms stockpiling before the deadline and also is delays —— delays at the border.

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