Transcripts For BBCNEWS BBC News with Katty and Christian :

Transcripts For BBCNEWS BBC News with Katty and Christian



up at a yard sale for peanuts — that ended up making its new owner a very tidy profit. i'm katty kay in washington. christian fraser is in london. any discussion over the migrant situation at the us border is inherently tricky. historically, one side of the us political spectrum has used words like "invasion" and "illegal aliens" to convey a sense of emergency. the other side works terms like "dreamers" into the political vernacular. they want to highlight the positive elements of america's long history with immigration. but the word that is being used across the divide is "crisis" — although the biden administration still fights shy of using that term despite the chaos we are seeing at the border. on capitol hill today, republican lawmakers took turns slamming the current commander in chief for what they perceive to be a softer approach, undoing all the progress they would claim has been made in the last four years. the biden administration has created chaos where there was order. - and the only way we'll ever be able to sit down with our democratic - colleagues is for us to regain control of the border. - and i want to say without any- hesitation — biden has lost control of the us—mexico border. so let's fact—check this a little bit. border arrivals are indeed up. according to pew research, border officials apprehended nearly 100,000 migrants in february — that's the tenth consecutive month that number has increased. but look at the graph — there was a much higher spike in 2019 when donald trump was in charge and had a more hardline approach to migrants. and you will see that second spike which we are now tracking, began in trump's final year in office — partly because the pandemic drove people north, as did a spate of natural disasters that hit central america last year. so who are these migrants? well, many of them are unaccompanied minors — and according to recent reports, there are now some 13,000 kids currently in us custody. but entire families are affected, too. 19,000 "family units" were taken into custody last month — some 60% were allowed to stay, awaiting a hearing. injanuary, when trump was still president, only 38% of the families were allowed to stay. so under the biden adminstration, more families are being allowed to see out their claims here in the us. for his part, president biden is trying to dissuade would—be migrants from heading to america's border. speaking to abc news, mr biden was frank in his message. i can say quite clearly, don't come over. and the process of getting set up — and it won't take a whole long time — is to be able to apply for asylum in place. so don't leave your town or city, or community. earlier, christian and i spoke with republican congresswoman, nicole malliotakis, about the border situation. congresswoman, senator lindsey graham has said that some of these migrants on the border could become terrorists. do you think that's right? terrorists. do you think that's ri . ht? ~ . ., terrorists. do you think that's riuht? ~ ., ., ~ ., , terrorists. do you think that's riiht? . ., ., 4' ., , ., right? well, what we do know is that the customs — right? well, what we do know is that the customs and _ right? well, what we do know is that the customs and border _ right? well, what we do know is that the customs and border patrol - right? well, what we do know is that| the customs and border patrol agents have already identified for individuals who were on the terrorist _ individuals who were on the terrorist watch list, another 132 individuals who were gang members, and others _ individuals who were gang members, and others that are actual criminals who are _ and others that are actual criminals who are trying to either enter or reenter— who are trying to either enter or reenter the united states. so certainty. _ reenter the united states. so certainly, among the mass migration, there _ certainly, among the mass migration, there are _ certainly, among the mass migration, there are those individuals who have or may _ there are those individuals who have or may conduct nefarious acts hidden inside _ or may conduct nefarious acts hidden inside and _ or may conduct nefarious acts hidden inside and i— or may conduct nefarious acts hidden inside. and i think that's one of the biggest issues we have, when you have this _ the biggest issues we have, when you have this sort of mass migration coming — have this sort of mass migration coming over the border. president biden has told _ coming over the border. president biden has told these _ coming over the border. president biden has told these migrants - coming over the border. president biden has told these migrants not| coming over the border. president i biden has told these migrants not to come. is that enough?— biden has told these migrants not to come. is that enough? well, he may have made — come. is that enough? well, he may have made one _ come. is that enough? well, he may have made one comment, _ come. is that enough? well, he may have made one comment, but - come. is that enough? well, he may i have made one comment, but certainly his actions— have made one comment, but certainly his actions are incentivizing this mass _ his actions are incentivizing this mass migration that we are seeing at the southern border. he has repealed the southern border. he has repealed the executive orders that donald trump _ the executive orders that donald trump put in place that actually addressed the issue. we had cooperation with mexico and the other— cooperation with mexico and the other central american countries, we were working with them to stop the smugglers. but were working with them to stop the smu~lers. �* ., ,, ., ., smugglers. but congresswoman, you sa it smugglers. but congresswoman, you say it address — smugglers. but congresswoman, you say it address the _ smugglers. but congresswoman, you say it address the issue _ smugglers. but congresswoman, you say it address the issue - _ smugglers. but congresswoman, you say it address the issue - we - smugglers. but congresswoman, you say it address the issue - we are - say it address the issue — we are showing our viewers a graph which shows in 2019, when donald trump was in power, it didn't address the issue despite the rhetoric, despite the wall, despite the draconian measures that were put in place, it didn't result in a fallen migration. well, right now since president biden— well, right now since president biden has— well, right now since president biden has repealed the policies put in place _ biden has repealed the policies put in place by donald trump, we have seen _ in place by donald trump, we have seen chiid — in place by donald trump, we have seen child minors coming unaccompanied, as young as 2—3 years oidm _ unaccompanied, as young as 2—3 years old... 00— unaccompanied, as young as 2-3 years old... ,, unaccompanied, as young as 2-3 years old... ~' , unaccompanied, as young as 2-3 years old... ~' i, ., , old... do you think they should be turned back? _ old... do you think they should be turned back? well, _ old... do you think they should be turned back? well, they _ old... do you think they should be turned back? well, they cannot i old... do you think they should be| turned back? well, they cannot be encouraged _ turned back? well, they cannot be encouraged to _ turned back? well, they cannot be encouraged to enter. _ turned back? well, they cannot be encouraged to enter. and - turned back? well, they cannot be encouraged to enter. and that's i turned back? well, they cannot be. encouraged to enter. and that's the problem. _ encouraged to enter. and that's the problem, what the president has done by repealing the executive orders put by repealing the executive orders out in _ by repealing the executive orders put in place by donald trump, he's encouraged — put in place by donald trump, he's encouraged this kind of migration, he's encouraged the smugglers and the cartels who are getting paid to bring _ the cartels who are getting paid to bring individuals and stick them over— bring individuals and stick them over the — bring individuals and stick them over the border, and bring individuals and stick them overthe border, and he's bring individuals and stick them over the border, and he's created a humanitarian crisis. there is no compassion— humanitarian crisis. there is no compassion right now with what you are seeing _ compassion right now with what you are seeing at the southern border. these _ are seeing at the southern border. these individuals, many of them are being _ these individuals, many of them are being abused along this journey, there _ being abused along this journey, there are — being abused along this journey, there are women being forced into sex trafficking, there are issues, as we _ sex trafficking, there are issues, as we mentioned earlier, that terrorists— as we mentioned earlier, that terrorists are sneaking in among them, _ terrorists are sneaking in among them, individuals who were gang members — them, individuals who were gang members among them. so this does nothing _ members among them. so this does nothing to— members among them. so this does nothing to help take people out of the shadow of society, it does nothing — the shadow of society, it does nothing to protect the citizens who live among the border states... it�*s live among the border states... it's a tou . h live among the border states... a tough sell, live among the border states... it�*s a tough sell, to talk about compassion when the pass administration was taking children away from their parents. itruieiiii away from their parents. well thou . ht away from their parents. well thought mike _ away from their parents. well thought mike what _ away from their parents. well thought mike what the past at ministration — first of all, this administration is encouraging young children. _ administration is encouraging young children, parents who are sending their— children, parents who are sending their young children, as young as 2-3 years — their young children, as young as 2—3 years old to make a treacherous journey _ 2—3 years old to make a treacherous journey along with a smuggler? how is that— journey along with a smuggler? how is that compassion for these young children. _ is that compassion for these young children. to — is that compassion for these young children, to put them in harm's way? congresswoman, a lot of these children were waiting on the other side of the border whilst donald trump was president in conditions in mexico that weren't safe either. but i think the bigger issue is there has to be some resolution, doesn't there? some long—term resolution of america's immigration policy. 0therwise america's immigration policy. otherwise it's president 0bama, trump or biden, we will lurch from one crisis to another on america's southern border. what does that solution look like to you? first of all, we solution look like to you? first of all. we need _ solution look like to you? first of all, we need to _ solution look like to you? first of all, we need to secure _ solution look like to you? first of all, we need to secure the - solution look like to you? first of| all, we need to secure the border. you have — all, we need to secure the border. you have to — all, we need to secure the border. you have to stem the flow of the illegal— you have to stem the flow of the illegal immigration and deal with the problem that exists currently within— the problem that exists currently within the country. and i think we also need — within the country. and i think we also need to implement an entry exit visa tracking system, we need to know _ visa tracking system, we need to know who's — visa tracking system, we need to know who's coming in and out of our country— know who's coming in and out of our country for— know who's coming in and out of our country for the security of the american _ country for the security of the american citizens and for the safety of everyone. there are many in the us and even those here who vote for border security, they want higher border security. but the home secretary, there's a story here about the home secretary of britain today who is setting out measures to help refugees coming from war zones to help bypass these people smugglers. the point i'm making is she's been criticised for having the tightest border security, as well as having immigration reform. the question is, do they want that compromise in the us? is there room for that compromise?— us? is there room for that comromise? �* , _, compromise? i've been covering the sto for compromise? i've been covering the story for so — compromise? i've been covering the story for so long _ compromise? i've been covering the story for so long now, _ compromise? i've been covering the story for so long now, and _ compromise? i've been covering the story for so long now, and i - compromise? i've been covering the story for so long now, and i keep . story for so long now, and i keep hearing the same argument — it's a combination of allowing people into the country, but also having the border secure. and every time they try to do it, it fails. and i think back to 2013 when you had the gang of eight, four republicans and four democrats who came together and got so close, they tried, it was the closest america has come to having some kind of immigration reform. there were a bunch of moderates there, i don't think there are any moderates left in the senate any more. so how will they possibly agree? it always gets stumbled on, is there enough border security and humane treatment of people wanting to come to the united states? it needs to be far bigger and they need to look at where the migrants are coming from, and that needs to be part of the policy. but if they couldn't do it with people likejeff flake, john mccain, chuck schumer working together, can they do it now? that seems like a tough sell to me. ., now? that seems like a tough sell to me. . , ., ., me. later in the programme we will talk to a democrat _ me. later in the programme we will talk to a democrat about _ me. later in the programme we will talk to a democrat about that. - me. later in the programme we will talk to a democrat about that. stay| talk to a democrat about that. stay with us. for anyone hoping to get married over the last year, the twist and turns of the pandemic have created a logistical nightmare. now, thousands of weddings in england that had been booked from 12 april may need to be cancelled or postponed according to the task force representing the industry. emma simpson takes up the story a picture postcard wedding venue in the countryside, like the rest of the industry, it has been in hibernation. the owner is playing those nine weddings from next month, which he thought was an abbott now realises it is against the rules. you'll make the last time we turn a profit of any meaningful level was october 2019. it's wedding couples who are disappointed, too. hannah and joe will have to postpone a second time. we don't really want to say this but to try to switch a wedding to a new location in a matter of weeks is just not feasible, we just can't do it. we still have to pay the admin fee, if we swap the locations _ or swap days, either way, - we have to pay extra for that is one of the notice we have had to pay. when the road map out of lockdown was revealed, weddings with up to 15 guests in england could go ahead from april the 12th in premises that are allowed to open. it seems many in the industry expected licensed wedding venues would qualify, but the government says weddings can only go ahead in places of worship, public buildings or outdoors, and insists that was always the plan. nothing has changed. and that effectively rules out most weddings in england until may, when numbers gradually increase, another month before this sector starts to get back on its feet. emma simpson, bbc news. the roll—out out of the vaccine here in the uk has been a huge success. according to the latest stistics, 25 million people have had theirjab. —— statistics. more than twice the number that have received the vaccine in france or germany. but things could be about to change. the bbc has seen a memo that was sent from the national health service to local health organisations warning them to expect a significant reduction in supply from the end of this month. the reduction is being blamed on the amount of vaccinations coming into the country. here's health secretary matt hancock. we're making absolutely fantastic progress in the vaccination effort. i'm delighted we're able to open up to millions more people today. and of course, you know, the future forecasts are always lumpy, and sometimes they go up, and sometimes they go down. but we've made these public commitments, and i'm absolutely delighted with the team because we're on track to meet them. but despite this setback, the uk is likely to remain one of the world's pacesetters for vaccination so far for every 100 people in the uk, almost a0 doses have been administered, including first and second doses. lagging slightly behind is the us. they've administered 33 doses per 100 people. however, the european union has a major amount of catching up to do, with just over 11 doses in arms per 100 people across the bloc. but lets take a closer look at the implications of this hit to uk supply with our uk political correspondent rob watson. if they're going to have fewer vaccines come out and april, what does that mean for people who have had their first shot but were waiting to get their second shot? could this derail targets? thea;r could this derail targets? they haven't said _ could this derail targets? they haven't said that, _ could this derail targets? they haven't said that, but - could this derail targets? they haven't said that, but what the government's position here in the uk is to prioritise while the supply runs— is to prioritise while the supply runs iow — is to prioritise while the supply runs low. and it sought the supply will run _ runs low. and it sought the supply will run low — runs low. and it sought the supply will run low for about four weeks, starting _ will run low for about four weeks, starting from i think 29 march. let's _ starting from i think 29 march. let's prioritise those people in the designated vulnerable groups who so far haven't _ designated vulnerable groups who so far haven't been vaccinated to do that, _ far haven't been vaccinated to do that, ratherthan far haven't been vaccinated to do that, rather than to start giving first doses to people who are younger _ first doses to people who are younger. but the government has really— younger. but the government has really played this down, saying, "look, — really played this down, saying, "look, we — really played this down, saying, "look, we are still basically on target — "look, we are still basically on target to— "look, we are still basically on target to do what we want, and that is to get— target to do what we want, and that is to get ali— target to do what we want, and that is to get all adults their first dose — is to get all adults their first dose by— is to get all adults their first dose by the end ofjuly."| is to get all adults their first dose by the end ofjuly." i can 'ust about — dose by the end ofjuly." i can 'ust about see the fi dose by the end ofjuly." i can 'ust about see the sunlit i dose by the end ofjuly." i can 'ust about see the sunlit uplands, h dose by the end ofjuly." i can just about see the sunlit uplands, myl about see the sunlit uplands, my wife was called today for her vaccine, she's over 50, and i thought in two weeks it would be the over 40s, thought in two weeks it would be the over40s, i'd be thought in two weeks it would

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