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BBCNEWS World July 2, 2024



the israel defense forces, when the ceasefire took effect around half—an—hour ago now, put out a statement directed at palestinians in gaza. i want to read it. it says the water is not over yet, the humanitarian pauseis not over yet, the humanitarian pause is temporary, the northern gaza strip is a dangerous war zone and it is forbidden to move north. for your safety, you must remain in the trinitarian zone in the south. it is only possible to move to the north of the strip to the south via a read. movement to the south —— from the south of the north is not allowed and dangerous. that feeds into what you are saying that this humanitarian pause, many have been displaced from the north to the south you might have been hoping to go back to see what remained of their homes, to try and gather together some more possessions, a very clear message to them that over the next few days even though this temporary pause infighting has taken effect, people are being told that they can't return to their homes because it is not safe for them to do that.- for them to do that. this is exactly what _ for them to do that. this is exactly what i _ for them to do that. this is exactly what i have - for them to do that. this is | exactly what i have received for them to do that. this is - exactly what i have received on my mobile from my colleagues. they were wishing to go back but they were advised not to go back to the north, most of them evacuated to the south, and theyjust evacuated to the south, and they just took a photo of these messages and sent them to us saying they will not be able to check their houses, even asked, our office is located in the north. we will not be able to look at it, our warehouses in the north but will not be able see what happened to them so we are still at and with our colleagues, asking them, of course you cannot forget what happened in the north or their lives in the north, their houses in the north, but police to stay in where they are in the south, try to use this chance, festival, secure whatever is missing for them but also contribute to what we are going to do with our humanitarian intervention in the south, what you've mentioned is so true, they are sad, they are really sad, but honestly, i was terrified of how they would feel if they go and find out that their houses are not, no longer existing. but people are hopeful, as i mentioned, they wanted to go, get more stuff, you know, they are very hopeful and this is a good sign of humanity that still exists. in good sign of humanity that still exists.— still exists. in terms of infrastructure - still exists. in terms of infrastructure inside i still exists. in terms of. infrastructure inside gaza, we've heard repeatedly about the difficulty of hospitals who have been trying to operate without fuel, when i small amount of fuel is coming in as part of this extra humanitarian effort, these extra trucks of aid that are going to be allowed in over the next four days. what sort of thing will be going and to actually meet that basic need that people have in gaza at the moment? medical supplies, fuel, food, bottled water, wheat flour for instance was missing and they hear through the un, the even registered online for different portions that would be distributed, shelter items, because as you know winter has arrived unfortunately in a terrible moment where people are sleeping outdoors. now they were asleep inside. currently were asleep inside. currently we are looking for potential clothing items that make them a little bit warmer and most importantly dignity kits for women who are pregnant, who are giving birth, these are the top priority items that we have identified, co—ordinated as international, as humanitarian organisations, all the organisations, all the organisations are co—ordinating in what we call clusters on what is needed and these are some of the items stop you mentioned the hospitals were trying to use the fuel and a varied way. let me tell you one thing. they say this programme, you need to lose something to know how important it is for you, but now everyone i think through the media, through your lands and immediacy how for instance people are liking bread, water, you start even from far away, looking at bread and water in a different way, your consumption becomes different. for them, they lived this before. the hospitals, the people, the different actors are prepared to use this in a rush and way. one question we've received, how come hospitals were able to still operate with all of this lack of fuel? simply, they were shut down or shut up all the things that are not necessarily needed, for instance, the lighting, orthe lighting, or the air—conditioning, they lighting, orthe air—conditioning, they would only focus on the bare minimum requirements to make sure that lives are saved. unfortunately you don't understand that, he did not live that, but they lived it before and they are using it in a variation way and this is what will happen and the fuel quantity that was entering gaza is very limited, we're so happy and hopeful that this will even continue the support in hospitals in the desalination unit for water inside kysiah. of course it will help in this division of aid in trucks that are arriving to the south —— gaza. aid in trucks that are arriving to the south -- gaza.- aid in trucks that are arriving to the south -- gaza. thank you forjoining _ to the south -- gaza. thank you forjoining us- — to the south -- gaza. thank you forjoining us. a _ to the south -- gaza. thank you forjoining us. a refinitiv - forjoining us. a refinitiv from care international talking about the unitarian element of all of this and as we continue seeing live pictures of rafah and the rafah crossing this morning, there will be additional activity there today because as part of this deal as we were saying, 200 trucks of aid a day plus four of fuel i do to pass from egypt into gaza through rafah. that is something we will continue to watch, you see that those live pictures of rafah. this morning and also again that continuing view from southern israel of gaza. the ceasefire began at seven o'clock this morning. we did here for around 15 minutes also continuing occasional explosions and you can still see ahead on the skyline of the last air strikes, some very large air strikes, 20 30 minutes leading up to that at the beginning of the ceasefire at seven o'clock local time, the israeli military really did continue their operation right until the ceasefire began and slightly afterwards, it appears, certainly from what we could hear and see over gaza. you can see the remains in the morning sky of the smoke from the last of those strikes. i can hear a drone in the sky above but we have not heard any arms fire or mortars, any explosion, any of that real sound of fighting now so i would say probably at least 20 minutes or so, so it looks like the ceasefire is now firmly in place. the drone element is interesting, there was a lot of discussion about how much surveillance the israel defense forces would kitty to do during the ceasefire and in fact what i spoke to the idf on bbc news yesterday they said even during the ceasefire period they would remain in a state of high readiness, they would take defensive positions, they would be ready for any potential breaking of the ceasefire on hamas �*s side and they be ready to respond so of course we will keep watching and monitoring that you live here on bbc news throughout the day as we move towards the next significant moment after four o'clock this afternoon when the first group of hostages are expected to be released and then later on tonight we're due to see the first of palestinian prisoners held and is legallyjails due be released as well so continuing to bring that story as it develops and unfolds throughout the day today as well and also our live page on the bbc news website which gives you continuing contacts, continuing coverage, everything need to follow the story wherever you are in the world stop let's take a moment to hearfrom danny, who was interviewed by my colleague on the bbc�*s newsnight from yesterday, a former israeli deputy to foreign and ambassador to the united states. mark astin festival, if that deal on the exchange of hostages and prisoners, brokered by qatar and by amara carr, is a good one for israel. an easy health which separates, which even brings one person out of this brutality, the severity of the hamas terrorists prison is good. of course it is hectic for everyone —— like happy for everyone —— like happy for everyone who is out and our heart is beating for all those left behind. unfortunately hamas is a terrorist organisation like isis and they trading with light, as is well adjusted from day one, bring them all home and we will release everyone you want from here even though we're talking about murderers with blood on the hand, terrorist, we were willing to release all of them just to get hostages home. of course they were not interested but now when they feel the brunt of the israeli ground operation, they fear for their survival, they are starting to acquiesce. survival, they are starting to acquiesce-— survival, they are starting to acquiesce. beyond these four da s acquiesce. beyond these four days there — acquiesce. beyond these four days there is _ acquiesce. beyond these four days there is the _ acquiesce. beyond these four days there is the possibility i days there is the possibility of more _ days there is the possibility of more hostages released to extend — of more hostages released to extend the truth but if that does — extend the truth but if that does not happen, prime minister netanyahu has been clear the war is— netanyahu has been clear the war is back on,.— netanyahu has been clear the war is back on,. the ob'ective is to free i war is back on,. the ob'ective is to free gaza * war is back on,. the ob'ective is to free gaza and _ war is back on,. the objective is to free gaza and frankly - war is back on,. the objective j is to free gaza and frankly the palestinian people from the hamas terrorist group. this is something which is given and the americans from president biden and all the way down to his administration understand because when hamas terrorists is that there is no peace, no coexistence, and any future agreement that we may think of, people talk about a two state solution for two people, ifor one is very much for it but in order to do that you have to have a partner which is trustworthy and believes in pieces well. the hamas terrorists has taken over the entire gaza strip as a hostage, turned into a bunker, underground, formidable. i’m underground, formidable. i'm “ust underground, formidable. i'm just wondering if you are going to press— just wondering if you are going to press on with the war and the south _ to press on with the war and the south where all of those people — the south where all of those people went who flowed from the north, _ people went who flowed from the north, 6 _ people went who flowed from the north, a million people. the consequences for civilians are going — consequences for civilians are going to — consequences for civilians are going to be even more horrific, aren't— going to be even more horrific, aren't they?— aren't they? hamas is doing a double war — aren't they? hamas is doing a double war crime, _ aren't they? hamas is doing a double war crime, they - aren't they? hamas is doing a double war crime, they are i double war crime, they are intimately targeting our civilians and they are hiding behind their own civilians as human shields, so we are trying to really navigate and be very careful about but there is one solution crosstalk. winner of the toll has been having _ winner of the toll has been having and the minister himself has said — having and the minister himself has said that israel has not succeeded in sparing civilian casualties in gaza. if succeeded in sparing civilian casualties in gaza.— succeeded in sparing civilian casualties in gaza. if you look at the geneva _ casualties in gaza. if you look at the geneva conventions, i casualties in gaza. if you look at the geneva conventions, ifj casualties in gaza. if you look i at the geneva conventions, if a terrorist takes over school antennas and a military bunker, it is no longer protected by the geneva convention. it is an eligible it —— illegitimate. we can still find some way out and the offer is still there, a safe exit, a safe way out for the hamas leaders even though they are terrorists and be brought to justice, they are terrorists and be brought tojustice, if they are terrorists and be brought to justice, if they leave and we can secure a safe passage for them to qatar or wherever, but everybody would be spared and first and foremost their own population in gaza, but they have no regard notjust israelis but to their own. regard not “ust israelis but to their own.— regard not “ust israelis but to their own. . �*, , .,, their own. that's the problem. ri . ht. if their own. that's the problem. right. if that _ their own. that's the problem. right. if that is _ their own. that's the problem. right. if that is not _ right. if that is not forthcoming, but offer to remove _ forthcoming, but offer to remove the hamas leadership, the defence minister today was talking — the defence minister today was talking about another two months for this campaign. his american _ months for this campaign. his american and wider support going — american and wider support going to _ american and wider support going to hold up for another two months with losses of life at this— two months with losses of life at this level? | two months with losses of life at this level?— at this level? i believe so. the goal. _ at this level? i believe so. the goal, the _ at this level? i believe so. the goal, the objective . at this level? i believe so. the goal, the objective is| at this level? i believe so. i the goal, the objective is to get the hamas, isis typed out because they are the main obstacle to annie, any breakthrough here in the middle east and if we ever want to think of stability, prosperity, peace and the middle east, it cannot be with hamas. as long as they are there, the situation is very dangerous and only once and join the situation are the iranians and those who back the iranians who are economically china, politically and militarily russia, we have to understand we are here, it is real—world conflict. we are here, it is real-world conflict. ., , , , we are here, it is real-world conflict-— conflict. lastly, in terms of the leadership, _ conflict. lastly, in terms of the leadership, you've - the leadership, you've obviously killed our good number of the military commanders in this campaign, but when — commanders in this campaign, but when this finishes, the idea — but when this finishes, the idea of— but when this finishes, the idea of hamas and some of their car dress — idea of hamas and some of their car dress will still be there in the _ car dress will still be there in the community. how will you stop— in the community. how will you stop them _ in the community. how will you stop them taking over again? | stop them taking over again? i think stop them taking over again? think the stop them taking over again? i think the solution, we should not, just like in europe and in bosnia in the 1990s, when it will was over elections took place and this is a big but, any elections he was allowed to run, only political parties that have rid themselves of any possession of weapons, terror organisations cannot run. the mistake was made, all of us, in 2006 was that we allowed hamas to run and hamas was a terrorist organisation, they were well armed, you cannot really run with bullets and to the ballot. really run with bullets and to the ballot-— the ballot. that is the thoughts _ the ballot. that is the thoughts from - the ballot. that is the thoughts from the - the ballot. that is the i thoughts from the israeli the ballot. that is the - thoughts from the israeli side. this is a deal that is many weeks in the making. it has been very delicate, very difficult and it is worth saying even when we heard a few days ago the deal had been agreed and went to the israeli security cabinet, the israeli war cabinet, the government to be voted on, we were expecting what we are seeing happening today to actually happen yesterday. that was the original plan. there was a delay i am not sure we are firmly got to the bottom of why without the hours we were told things would now happen potentially on friday instead of on thursday. it shows you the difficulty of the negotiations which have been brokered by qatar but now seemed to be unfolding as expected. now 45 minutes in to the ceasefire that began here at seven o'clock this morning, we did hear the continuing sounds of fighting. we saw and heard airstrikes right up until the moment of the ceasefire beginning and we heard occasional explosions and small arms fire in the maybe ten or 15 minutes afterwards. you can see the life pictures on your screen out of gaza. things are now quiet. it looks like that ceasefire has fully begun and is holding. i can still hear the sound of drones in the sky above gaza. certainly at this stage things are progressing as planned. we also expect to see additional humanitarian aid passing into gaza through the rafah crossing through egypt and later on today we expect to see the first significant hostage release, 13 hostages we are told. women and children released from gaza, returned back into israel and we will see a reciprocal release of palestinian prisoners. again, women and children being held in israeli jails. that we expect to be replicated over the next four days or so. my colleague from bbc arabic is following this story as well. it is worth reflecting on things for a moment about the difficulty of these negotiations. they do not happen directly. they happen through qatar. remind us of the big regional players and their importance and actually getting this deal through.— this deal through. there are big players _ this deal through. there are big players in _ this deal through. there are big players in this _ this deal through. there are big players in this deal. i this deal through. there are big players in this deal. the| big players in this deal. the qatar site that went for the steel from the beginning of october seven. trying to strike the steel. and egypt as well. and the red crescent where they had a rule in releasing the hostages before. and will also receive hostages in the egyptian site before they transfer them to the israeli side. before hostages will go to israeli hospitals. this is four o'clock previously. then at eight o'clock in the evening the palestinian prisoners should be going out of prison and near ramallah. a big effort. i want to reflect on pictures i saw in something gaza where i saw massive movements of people going around, happy for returning home. some of them said they were staying in one bedroom flats with hundreds of people and less food and less supplies and less food and less supplies and less food and less supplies and less water. they are happy they can now go and check their homes. the question now, you've mentioned the idf statement of the northern gaza still a war zone. the question now, will be israeli troops allow the eight tracks to go to the north or not. there are 100,000 people still in the north. hospitals like the indonesian hospital, the kuwait hospital and the situation in the al—shifa hospital. we'll be israeli authors allow this hospital to be equipped with more medical supplies or not? this is a question that will have over the coming hours. there are some details of hostages situation unfolding where the hamas officials announced 23 thailand nationals wi

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