that we _ there are many elements in the deal that we don't like. we would have liked _ that we don't like. we would have liked it _ that we don't like. we would have liked it to— that we don't like. we would have liked it to have gone further and we would _ liked it to have gone further and we would have — liked it to have gone further and we would have liked there to be all parties — would have liked there to be all parties agreeing to absolute economy wide targets when they next do the next set _ wide targets when they next do the next set of — wide targets when they next do the next set of targets. but they are economy— next set of targets. but they are economy wide, that is agreed in the text _ economy wide, that is agreed in the text 15— economy wide, that is agreed in the text. 1.5 degrees is held as a north star, _ text. 1.5 degrees is held as a north star, exactly as the president of the cop— star, exactly as the president of the cop said it needed to be in for this signal— the cop said it needed to be in for this signal to go out that we will globally— this signal to go out that we will globally transition away from fossil fuels is _ globally transition away from fossil fuels is an— globally transition away from fossil fuels is an historic moment. we need to ensure _ fuels is an historic moment. we need to ensure that we translate it into action— to ensure that we translate it into action and — to ensure that we translate it into action and that we keep up momentum. i action and that we keep up momentum. iwouid _ action and that we keep up momentum. iwouid have _ action and that we keep up momentum. i would have liked to have seen more on coal. _ i would have liked to have seen more on coal. for— i would have liked to have seen more on coal, for instance, no new coal. it on coal, for instance, no new coal. it is _ on coal, for instance, no new coal. it is the _ on coal, for instance, no new coal. it is the most _ on coal, for instance, no new coal. it is the most polluting of all fossil— it is the most polluting of all fossil fuels. there is a huge opportunity for us to do more there. but given— opportunity for us to do more there. but given the different contexts and the different views of the parties and where we were just 48 hours ago, ithink— and where we were just 48 hours ago, i think this _ and where we were just 48 hours ago, i think this is — and where we were just 48 hours ago, i think this is a tremendous result and we _ i think this is a tremendous result and we celebrate so many elements of it. ~ . ., . , and we celebrate so many elements of it. ~ _, . , ., and we celebrate so many elements of it. were the concerns of developing nations, it. were the concerns of developing nations. of — it. were the concerns of developing nations, of nations _ it. were the concerns of developing nations, of nations on _ it. were the concerns of developing nations, of nations on the - it. were the concerns of developing nations, of nations on the front - nations, of nations on the front lines of climate change listened to? we saw representatives from samoa and low island nations speaking and they received a huge round of applause. they believe they were not listened to, do you agree? it applause. they believe they were not listened to, do you agree?— listened to, do you agree? it was unfortunate _ listened to, do you agree? it was unfortunate the _ listened to, do you agree? it was unfortunate the gavel _ listened to, do you agree? it was unfortunate the gavel came - listened to, do you agree? it wasi unfortunate the gavel came down before _ unfortunate the gavel came down before they had actuallyjoined us. ministers— before they had actuallyjoined us. ministers from samoa, manawatu, tuvalu _ ministers from samoa, manawatu, tuvalu and — ministers from samoa, manawatu, tuvalu and other countries from across _ tuvalu and other countries from across the — tuvalu and other countries from across the world, it is so important to listen— across the world, it is so important to listen to — across the world, it is so important to listen to them because they're people _ to listen to them because they're people are literally on the front line _ people are literally on the front line we — people are literally on the front line. we want to ensure that their voices— line. we want to ensure that their voices are — line. we want to ensure that their voices are heard. and, of course, support— voices are heard. and, of course, support so— voices are heard. and, of course, support so much of the work of the hi-h support so much of the work of the high ambition coalition and others speaking — high ambition coalition and others speaking in behalf of those people. you left _ speaking in behalf of those people. you left the summit early, you flew back to the uk for a vote on the government's rwanda policy. you have just arrived back, what does that signal? was that uk not evolved enoughin signal? was that uk not evolved enough in these negotiations? why did you leave? it was a tremendous moment when i spoke to the plenary and saluted the work of my team, alison campbell, my chief negotiator who helped alongsidejoseph alison campbell, my chief negotiator who helped alongside joseph from singapore to who helped alongsidejoseph from singapore to shape who helped alongside joseph from singapore to shape the who helped alongsidejoseph from singapore to shape the gst who helped alongside joseph from singapore to shape the gst text. the uk, has been central to the outcomes, as ever, and the most notable _ outcomes, as ever, and the most notable outcome of all, which is this global stock—take test. notable outcome of all, which is this global stock-take test. weren't ou this global stock-take test. weren't you concerned _ this global stock-take test. weren't you concerned that _ this global stock-take test. weren't you concerned that the _ this global stock-take test. weren't you concerned that the leader - this global stock-take test. weren't you concerned that the leader of. this global stock-take test. weren't| you concerned that the leader of the uk's delegation, you were not here in the final days? i uk's delegation, you were not here in the final days?— in the final days? i was. i was away for a number _ in the final days? i was. i was away for a number of _ in the final days? i was. i was away for a number of hours _ in the final days? i was. i was away for a number of hours and - in the final days? i was. i was away for a number of hours and in - for a number of hours and in constant _ for a number of hours and in constant contact with my team and, of course, _ constant contact with my team and, of course, my very able colleague lord benyon was here as well. we were _ lord benyon was here as well. we were here — lord benyon was here as well. we were here fully on the ground and all decisions came through me and i am delighted with the contribution the uk _ am delighted with the contribution the uk has been able to make to what is an historic— the uk has been able to make to what is an historic agreement today. the uk will be is an historic agreement today. tue: uk will be signing is an historic agreement today. t'te: uk will be signing an is an historic agreement today. tte: uk will be signing an historic agreement that agrees to transition away from fossil fuels. but the uk government has also approved a new oil and gas exploration in the north sea, hundreds of new licences. are you now prepared to cancel those licenses, given what has just been signed in dubai? fiur licenses, given what has 'ust been signed in dubai?h signed in dubai? our north sea production _ signed in dubai? our north sea production is — signed in dubai? our north sea production is declining - signed in dubai? our north sea production is declining and - signed in dubai? our north sea - production is declining and expected to halve _ production is declining and expected to halve over a decade. new licences simply— to halve over a decade. new licences simply allow us to manage it and allows— simply allow us to manage it and allows new investment to green those operations _ allows new investment to green those operations. is allows new investment to green those 0 erations. , ., ., allows new investment to green those oerations. , ., ., ., , ., operations. is that a transition away from _ operations. is that a transition away from fossil _ operations. is that a transition away from fossil fuels? - operations. is that a transition away from fossil fuels? it - away from fossil fuels? it absolutely is. that is why we are seeing _ absolutely is. that is why we are seeing demand in the uk, we own the world _ seeing demand in the uk, we own the world leader, remember. no major economy— world leader, remember. no major economy has cut its emissions more to date _ economy has cut its emissions more to date than— economy has cut its emissions more to date than the united kingdom are no major— to date than the united kingdom are no major economy on earth has great ambitions _ no major economy on earth has great ambitions to— no major economy on earth has great ambitions to 2030 than the united kingdom — ambitions to 2030 than the united kingdom. our production of fossil fuels _ kingdom. our production of fossil fuels mean that if we stopped that, we would _ fuels mean that if we stopped that, we would simply import more from abroad _ we would simply import more from abroad with higher embedded in emissions than producing at home. we would _ emissions than producing at home. we would lose _ emissions than producing at home. we would lose the very subsea engineering capabilities that we need _ engineering capabilities that we need to— engineering capabilities that we need to develop offshore wind, floating, — need to develop offshore wind, floating, fixed bed, and develop hydrogen and carbon capture. it is a joined _ hydrogen and carbon capture. it is a joined up. _ hydrogen and carbon capture. it is a joined up, coherent policy. it is entirely— joined up, coherent policy. it is entirely aligned with net zero. we can be _ entirely aligned with net zero. we can be proud of the fact that our oil and _ can be proud of the fact that our oil and gas — can be proud of the fact that our oil and gas developments are declining that part and parcel of a transition — declining that part and parcel of a transition to a cleaner world and the uk _ transition to a cleaner world and the uk is — transition to a cleaner world and the uk is leading the world. we have soken the uk is leading the world. we have spoken with — the uk is leading the world. we have spoken with several _ the uk is leading the world. we have spoken with several developing - spoken with several developing nations. uganda is one of them. they demand the rights to burn their own fossil fuels because developed nations such as the uk have been doing it for decades. what message does it send, then, if the uk continues to plan to burn its fossil fuels while other nations are being told to go ahead and face those out? we are all phasing out. as i say, we are leading — we are all phasing out. as i say, we are leading the way in phasing it out. are leading the way in phasing it out the — are leading the way in phasing it out. the uk's emissions per capita are back— out. the uk's emissions per capita are back to— out. the uk's emissions per capita are back to where they were in the 1850s _ are back to where they were in the 1850s we — are back to where they were in the 1850s. we have cut our emissions more _ 1850s. we have cut our emissions more than — 1850s. we have cut our emissions more than the united states, germany, france, japan, any other major— germany, france, japan, any other major economy on the planet and our plans— major economy on the planet and our plans for— major economy on the planet and our plans for oil— major economy on the planet and our plans for oil and gas production declining — plans for oil and gas production declining fast as they are allow us to produce — declining fast as they are allow us to produce oil and gas while we needed — to produce oil and gas while we needed to ever higher standards. they— needed to ever higher standards. they are — needed to ever higher standards. they are entirely compatible with the reduction in demand. in fact, globally— the reduction in demand. in fact, globally we need to see a 3%—4% reduction — globally we need to see a 3%—4% reduction in year in oil and gas use according — reduction in year in oil and gas use according to — reduction in year in oil and gas use according to the iea and ours is predicted — according to the iea and ours is predicted at 7%. our dependency over coming _ predicted at 7%. our dependency over coming years even with new licences on imports _ coming years even with new licences on imports will grow even as we lead the world _ on imports will grow even as we lead the world on— on imports will grow even as we lead the world on a pathway to net zero and we _ the world on a pathway to net zero and we hope other countries will 'oin and we hope other countries will join us _ and we hope other countries will join us on — and we hope other countries will join us on that pathway, recognising it is a _ join us on that pathway, recognising it is a transition.— it is a transition. thank you for our it is a transition. thank you for your time. _ it is a transition. thank you for your time, graham _ it is a transition. thank you for your time, graham stuart, - it is a transition. thank you for your time, graham stuart, thei it is a transition. thank you for- your time, graham stuart, the uk's ministerfor your time, graham stuart, the uk's minister for energy your time, graham stuart, the uk's ministerfor energy and your time, graham stuart, the uk's minister for energy and net zero joining us in dubai after that historic agreement has been signed. reaction from several countries and we will continue to keep you up—to—date with more from cop28. thank you very much. the northern ireland secretary chris heaton—harris is holding talks with the main parties in stormont today about the future of devolution. the discussions will focus on a financial package which the british government says it would provide if the devolved government was restored. there's been no fully—functioning power—sharing executive for almost two years. our ireland correspondent chris pagejoins us now. hello, chris, good to see you. no fully functional government for two years and this fallout over brexit, what is happening there today and what is happening there today and what hopes could be restored now? well, the main political parties at stormont, those who would take part in a regional government, if it was to be restored, will be taking part in these discussions, which will mainly be focused on the funding of northern ireland. but the backdrop to all of this is the ongoing political crisis, which has meant that this part of the uk has been without a devolved government for almost two years, now. the basis of government here really comes out of the settlements that ended the long conflict here in the 1990s. there is a power—sharing arrangement. for a government to be formed at all, it has to be composed of unionists who basically want northern ireland to remain in the uk and irish nationalist parties who want northern ireland to leave the uk and join with the republic of ireland. the main unionist party, the democratic unionist party, the dup, have vetoed the formation of a power—sharing coalition in protest, as you say, against brexit trading arrangements, the trade barriers between northern ireland and great britain as being something which damages northern ireland's place in the uk. the british government has dangled an incentive in front of the dup and that is a financial package worth £2.5 billion. but that will only be released if the devolved government is restored. the dup have said they are in no hurry and they are still negotiating with the british government and the minister responsible for northern ireland, chris heaton—harris, over its other concerns related to brexit. whilst the british covenant would certainly want the devolved government, the stormont executive, to be restored this side of christmas and will be pushing for that, there is little sign of a breakthrough today. however, the fact that the parties are around the table at hillsborough castle just outside belfast, are around the table at hillsborough castlejust outside belfast, which is where the northern ireland secretary is based, that is a sign that there is some movement towards that there is some movement towards that goal. that there is some movement towards that coal. ~ . that there is some movement towards that toal . ., ., , that there is some movement towards that coal. ~ . ., that goal. what impact has it had? the fact that _ that goal. what impact has it had? the fact that there _ that goal. what impact has it had? the fact that there hasn't - that goal. what impact has it had? the fact that there hasn't been - that goal. what impact has it had? i the fact that there hasn't been any devolved functioning government for the past two years? tt devolved functioning government for the past two years?— the past two years? if you speak to eo - le the past two years? if you speak to people who — the past two years? if you speak to people who work — the past two years? if you speak to people who work in _ the past two years? if you speak to people who work in public - the past two years? if you speak to | people who work in public services, they are the ones who will say they noticed it the most. basically, a lot of decisions have been piled up that haven't been made because there have been a minister is in place to make them. northern ireland has basically been run by government officials, by civil servants. basically been run by government officials, by civilservants. but because they officials, by civil servants. but because they are officials, by civilservants. but because they are unelected officials, they do not have the power to take major decisions on policy matters. the biggest issue at the moment is around the pay for people in public services. the likes of teachers, nurses, having taken part in a series of strikes because they say their pay has fallen well behind their counterparts in england, scotland, and wales. this financial package, which the british government has offered, will include some money that will go towards public sector pay increases. the parties were at talks here earlier this week while some striking workers turned up to make their points known to the various politicians who were attending. the focus has been on budgets. it has been on the effect on public services in northern ireland and down to the fact that political instability in this part of the uk where there are still political divisions, still a legacy from that conflict which lasted 30 years, the 19605 conflict which lasted 30 years, the 1960s until the 1990s, and the fact that there is no regional government, that is not a good thing. the more political stability that can be had, the better. the democratic unionist party says it wants devolution to be restored but not at any cost. it wants a deal, it says, but it has to be the right deal. all the other parties, including the biggest party, the irish nationalist party, sinn fein, say time is up in the dup need to makea say time is up in the dup need to make a decision now and that should be to allow the stormont executive to be restored. the stakes are certainly very high.— to be restored. the stakes are certainly very high. chris, you will kee us certainly very high. chris, you w