later, we get a second request. we're going to hear the instructions potentially all over again. a lot to process the leader, jake tapper starts right now cnn breaking news and welcome to the lead. >> i'm jake tapper. we do have some breaking news for you and just over four hours to deliberate creation. the jury has now requested to here read back of four parts of testimony, and just now, they send a second node another node, a second one. >> he's, 12 people will decide the fate of former president trump in his criminal hush money cover-up problem. >> we're going to bring you all the updates a moment. the verdict comes down, which could be in seconds or days if you ask down trump's allies this is they believed that every minute the jury continues to deliberate as a good sign for trump. the truth is, we have no idea. this morning, judge juan were shown instructed the jury on how they should reach their verdict. this included a directive to check any personal trump views at the door saying, quote, you must set aside any personal opinions or bias you might have in favor or against the defendant. and you must not allow any such opinions to influence your verdict, but i guess those instructions weren't as clear as judge merchan thought they were because this second note from the jury, they rang the buzzer again and they're saying we'd like to hear those instructions again, cnn's paula reads outside the courthouse, paula what exactly is the confusion? and honestly, why didn't he just give them the paper document with the instructions like i mean, i know karen here says that that's just not what's done in new york. well, it's stupid. give them the instructions and paper. why not? >> i agree with you. it is stupid. it's also stupid. nadav cameras inside the courtroom, but i'm going to hop off my soapbox for a second and note that the judge isn't even in clear on whether they want the entirety of the jury instructions re-read or just portions that appears in the judge is not keen to repeat those over 50 pages i've instructions that he already gave adjust this morning. now we're learning that the first request that they made for portions of four different pieces of testimony that read back or learning from her colleagues inside. that's going to take about 30 minutes according to the court reporter. so they're going to hear back these portions of testimony that they asked for three different pieces of testimony from david pecker and then a piece of testimony from david, michael cohen now what's interesting is they want to hear from both david pecker, and michael cohen. again out the trump tower meeting, and that's notable because you have two people in this critical meeting, the prosecutors argued in their closings yesterday, set off this alleged it's conspiracy to help trump in the 2016 campaign by using the national enquirer to suppress negative stories about trump and amplify positive ones. now, we don't want to read too much into this request. what it suggests, jake, that the jury may be moving through this case a chronologically. now, the judge has just read both notes from the jury and he's asked the foreperson to confirm that he'd he read them right? the foreperson has confirmed and obviously the judge wants to get a little clarity on that second note. just how much of his instructions does he need to go through again, because it's clear jake getting through these two requests is this is likely going to take us to the end of the day. so highly unlikely that we would get a verdict today. this expected to go into tomorrow. >> alright. paula reid. thanks. let's bring in our panel. so lesly moments ago after about three-and-a-half hours of deliberation, the jury came back with this note that contain these four requests, three questions about the testimony of david pecker, the tabloid king of american media incorporated one about michael cohen, the key witness in general what does this tell you about the jury, if anything, what to read the tea leaves for us. it can three-and-a-half hours in there asking questions about the testimony and then they say, and also we need some further instructions on your instructions. right? right. so it's definitely reading the tea leaves, but i think as police said, they could be going through the evidence chronologically. right. we starting with david pecker, so they're starting with david pecker it also could be that they're looking for ways to corroborate michael cohen's testimony. right. so one of the instructions was you can't rely on his testimony only look at what evidence is out there to corroborate it. and there's there's quite a bit of overlap between what he was talking about and david pecker's testimony. so they might be looking for ways to corroborate it which could also be partly why they want to hear the instructions, but it doesn't surprise me in the least that they do want to hear all of the instructions because it was a lot and there's no way anybody could process all of that in one shot. >> so karen, you have worked in the da's office, manhattan da's office. you also have been on a jury i think it's stupid that they didn't just give the jury the instructions that he gave them. so now he has to come and explain them all or some or whatever is there a reason why that's this is the way they do it in new york. >> or judge merchan does it it's the way it's done in new york and there are thousands of jury trials in new york state every year, where this has done the same way. >> okay. but why jurors why? >> because i said so is not that's not good enough for my kids. when i say to them, like, is there a reason was this for the printing press was invented like what exactly would, would prohibit a judge from, well, this will make it easier for them. they can just read the instruction like every jurisdiction has ways that things are done. and this is how new york does it. i think at grid i agree that there should be cameras in the courtroom to new york needs to change in certain ways. i totally agree. i think these notes, i think what's what's positive though about these notes is that it really shows the jury is actually doing their job and delivered parading, unlike what donald trump was saying that concerned me, was he was delegitimizing the jury system by saying i can't get a fair trial in new york, people are going to be biased against me. if that were the case, they would just have a knee-jerk reaction and potentially just convict him. and this really they're listening, they're thinking they're looking at the evidence they want to read back. they want the law read back to them. they want certain parts of the testimony so they can analyze it. and whatever the verdict is, we have to respect it and i think the legitimacy of the jury system out of the criminal i'll justice system is important, whatever the verdict is, but i think this is a very positive sign because it shows they're taking their job very seriously and they're being thoughtful. >> so judge merchan said deliberations are going to start again at 9:30 a.m. eastern tomorrow, and he is dismissed the jury for the de the jury is leaving. >> the reason he's doing that is because it is going to now take the court reporter and the parties hours literally hours to agree to identify in the transcript exactly which portions of the transcript are responsive to these notes because it's not like they said, we want all of the read back of david pecker's testimony. they want a certain specific part of david pecker's testimony and that could be in multiple places, right? there could be a question on direct. are a series of questions on the direct? there could be more questions later on in the direct and then parts of cross and what's going to happen is the court reporter is going to have to identify each and every place that is responsive to that note in both direct and cross then the parties are gonna have to agree that that's the only place in the transcripts that it exists and then it'll be read back to them the court reporters, the one who does the read back, both of the judge's instruction and of the testimony in new york. so you'll have the court reporter who will be he's speaking for a long time tomorrow, but i bet even at 9:30, we might not get started because the jury will come in, the judge will send them back to continue to deliver it. they can continue to deliberate, even while the parties are answering the notes and looking for things, it's not like things stop at that time. but it's going to take some time to get the answers to these questions to the point where it can then be read back to the jury. so tom is the reason that he dismissed them for the day just because it's 407 almost four 30, which is when he would dismiss them anyway, you might as well just let them have the 20 minutes. >> i think that's probably what was going through his mind. >> i mean, it is interesting given that the jury they deliberated late last night, so you can at least see maybe the jury would be interested in continuing to deliberate, but i could also see them wanting a break. i mean, they certainly had a very long day yesterday. they finally got the case today, and now they're just gonna be sitting there awaiting this information that they have indicated is very important to their decision-making process. the thing that interests is meet jake by this, you asked about the significance is that these requests came relatively speaking early on in the deliberative process, which tells me this is also a jury that kind of got down to business. in other words, they didn't spend hours and hours kind of venting or unburdening himself of their feelings. and the case, they immediately plunged into the record and within a reasonable amount of time decided, these are the specific pieces of information we want to hear back. we want to get more because we've already identified these bits of testimony as critical to our deliberations, moving quickly and as karen assessed a judge, merchan told the attorneys that they cannot leave the courtroom. the jurors have laughed, but attorneys cannot leave the courtroom until they agree on the transcript that will be read back tomorrow. tim parlatore, are we going to find out we in the public going to find out what four specific requests from the testimony, three from pecker, one from cohen, that they requested. is that something that we will learn or know? this is all just private jury? free information the judge has read the note, allowed into the record, so everybody who's in the courtroom knows what specific questions they've asked. >> and so now both sides are trying to compile what is responsive to that? and there will be some back-and-forth about sometimes one silos tried added in an extra page that they think is advantageous to them and they would say, well, that's not really response, right? >> sneaking in some sense, right? and so the cook, it this part of the process is, is interesting because i agree with you that a lot of these things would be whole lot easier if we just give them the instructions given them the transcript is a little bit more complicated because you have to remember these transcripts are not certified yet. they do contain errors. sometimes when you get the draft trends script, do you see that the court report accidentally we're at then no. when the answer was yes. right. things like that. and so you can't give them the transcript, but this gives a great opportunity for the attorneys to see where's the jury going and for the for the client to be able to lose their mind just a little bit more and trying to figure out what they're doing and what i always find interesting is not just the questions asked, but during the read back i watched the jury and i see what are they doing and sometimes you'll see facial expressions. some that i've seen it even where when it comes to that key line and the testimony all of a sudden one juror will look down at the other see and that's when you sit there and the clients like, is that a good thing? >> right that's funny. >> he has read back is in open court. yeah. we will all we're all going to know what they what they read. >> and jamie gan go right now you talked about clients going crazy and it again, for any defendant does not fund and donald trump is a defended, so it's not fund for him, right now. >> and todd blanche's defense attorney asked the judge, can my client, the former president donald trump, go across the hall while the lawyers are working on finalizing the transcript, which could take hours judge merchan said that's okay. but trump cannot leave the building and trump is apparently leaning back in his chair with his arm up on the chair back gesturing as he talks to blanche and beauvais, two of his attorneys, blanche's laughing. >> trump. we saw him walk out. trump is up from his seat, leaving with don junior, total deliberation time today, four hours, 37 minutes. and jamie gain, gail guys run for president. i'm not saying whether it's right or wrong, but this has got to be frustrating. he's stuck in this courthouse. >> well, let let's put aside running for president because there were a lot of days during the six weeks where he could have gone out and campaigned and he chose to campaign from the courthouse steps are the courthouse hallway. i will say i think it's looked donald trump doesn't like anyone telling him what to do or where to be looking. tim parlatore, not he doesn't like the fact that he has to stick around the courthouse and someone i know who was in that holding room with me with him tells me it is a not not a very pleasant place like the rest of the building. it is old, it is dirty. i gather there's an old air conditioning unit in the window, not donald trump trump's style. yeah, that courthouse is a dump, but i don't think it's about being in the holding room. yeah we're not watching his face in the court. right. so he doesn't have to worry about yes. privacy. >> anybody? >> commenting because he closed his eyes for five seconds, everyone stick around. the jury has stopped deliberating for the day after four hours, 37 minutes of deliberation. >> so we just want to note that we have stopped. where's it? we have stopped our clock right here let's bring in cnn's kaitlan collins, who's outside the court and caitlin, what do you make the jury's notes? late this afternoon and this rather early dismissal for the jury will take obviously, this is a question that the trump team is going to be trying to detect. just like we are in the sense of what this means for them. at first glance. i mean, obviously if they're trying to read david pecker's testimony, which the prosecution framed and their closing arguments late into the evening last night, i was in there inside the courtroom as they did that i mean, the prosecution framed it is for donald trump and saying that what david pecker, someone who had no acts grind against donald trump, had to say, by putting trump in the room and talking about how he was aware of this plot to pay for stories that could potentially be damaging to in his chances at winning the election. that was held. they framed it. so it's notable that the jury wants to see that, but they're also asking to see testimony from michael cohen, who todd blanche flame, framed as this complete liar as part of his closing arguments to the jury as well. so obviously, it's a lot to interpret their everyone's going to be trying to read it included trump's attorneys who you sold trump leave the room along with his entourage a few moments ago, but todd blanche, and emil bove veins is and nicholas are still inside that room at the defense table as they are going to be trying to sort through exactly which parts of this transcript are going to be read back to the jury tomorrow? >> i think the other thing that it's still to be determined is on the jury instructions and what is being read to what is going to be read back to them, whether or not it's all of the jury instructions which took about an hour today or if it's certain in parts of the law or certain parts about reasonable doubt, witness credibility, all of that is going to be key aspects that people will be looking for when the judge does return with jury tomorrow morning at nine 9:30 a.m. to see what is it that they have questions about? >> it's this fascinating process where they can only communicate via the foreperson for the jury that is juror number one. he is just automatically the foreperson here, sending these notes and clarifying what it is to the judge. they can't have these lengthy conversations with him or if they do have conversations it's where the judge has brought the entire juror into the courtroom to make sure that they all hear what his instructions are, and it's not just any kind of private of discussion between the judge and one juror the importance here is that they are all 12 on the same page here. and so obviously the trump team will be trying to figure this out as well. i should note, trump left the courtroom, jake, he can't actually lead the courthouse though. he has to wait until all of this is done. he's obviously been here since early this morning. >> can we collins thanks so much. appreciated. the trump trial jury has just been dismissed for the de this after they sent the judge two notes. >> one, two here, one to rehear four different parts of testimony. >> three, from david pecker, one from michael cohen another to hear parts of the judges instructions to them. again, we're gonna have more from court in just a few minutes and we're going to talk with the former judge about how this first day of deliberations has gone the lead with jake tapper, brought to you by empower, take control of your financial future and empower what's next? 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