non-violent offender. and that's it for us today. the lead with jake tapper starts right now for the first time in the history of the united states of america and immediate family member of the current president is a convicted felon, believed starts right now hunter biden, guilty on all charges in the federal gun case against him, his father's speaking at the gun safety event just hours after did he say anything about it? now, biden, the president is rushing to delaware to be by his son side. so we'll hunter biden now had the prison and for how long? >> plus trump has a gun situation of his own sources telling cnn the former president fessed up about his weapon in florida, which he is legally not allowed to possess as a convicted in felon, but does donald trump plan to hand the gun over cnn's digging into what he might face if he does not. >> plus leaked messages reported from the leader of the terrorist group hamas, revealing that he thinks hamas is benefiting from the deaths of palestinian civilians in gaza. and that he seemingly could really not care less what happens to them? >> welcome to the lean. i'm jake tapper hunter biden is now a convicted felon. it took a delaware where jury less than three hours to find the president's son guilty. guilty. guilty on all three felony gun charges, deciding he violated laws meant to prevent those who use and are addicted to illegal drugs from owning firearms. multiple jurors spoke to cnn in the moments after they left cord, including juror number ten who told cnn to the jury, had been evenly split last night when they wrapped for the de with six guilty, six not guilty, but this morning jurors went count by count and unanimously decided hunter biden was in fact guilty on all three counts. juror number of ten went on to tell cnn he does not think politics played a role in any jurors decision to convict no politics came in to play in politics was not even spoken about the first family was not even spoken about. it was all it was all about hunter two jurors also told cnn that the emotional testimony would stick with him for a long time, including one saying that the testimony of hunters daughter naomi was quote, heart-wrenching. >> hunter biden responded to the verdict in a written statement saying, quote, in more grateful today for the love and support i experienced this last week from his wife, melissa, my family my friends, and my community that i am disappointed by the outcome recovery is possible by the grace of god. i am blessed to experience that gift one day at a time, unquote. hunter biden now faces theoretically up to 25 years in prison. he is expected to be sentenced before the presidential election. multiple jurors telling cnn that while they agreed he would was guilty, they do not think hunter biden's you go to jail. president biden has said he would not pardon his son. the president reacted to the verdicts this afternoon saying he accepts the outcome of the case and is proud of his son for his recovery i asked president biden about this possibility back in october 2022, before hunter biden was even charged are reporting cnn sub reporting, and the washington post reporting suggests the prosecutors think they could they have enough to charge your son, hunter, for tax crimes and a false statement about a gun purchase personally and politically how do you react to that? well, first of all, i'm proud of my son this is a kid who got out, a kid he's a grown man. you got hooked on like many families have had happened he hooked on drugs. he's overcome that. he's established a new life. this thing about a gun. i didn't know anything about it, but it turns out that when he made application to purchase a gun, what happened was he stayed i guess she had get asked. i don't guess you get asked the question, are you on drugs? you use drugs. he said no. and he wrote about saying no. >> his book let's go straight to cnn's paula reid, who's live outside the courtroom in wilmington, delaware, along with cnn's kayla tausche, who is live outside the white house. paul, give us more context about the jurors and what the next legal steps are for hunter biden the jury was unanimous in its verdict, but we've learned jake there was a split behind the scenes about whether they believed that this was a good use so time and resources one juror told our colleague, henry binwidth that she thought this was quote, a waste of taxpayer money, but they believed they had no choice but to convict based on the instructions that they received from the judge. >> now, juror ten, who manu and i spoke to earlier. he did say that he believed it was a legitimate use of taxpayer funds of course, this case has come under significant scrutiny, even high profile republicans like senator lindsey graham and representative matt gaetz, questioning whether this case should have proceeded today in a where statement, the special counsel, david weiss, he defended his case as quote, being about illegal choices and the rule of law. never his part as you noted, hunter biden, he focused his statement not on the verdict, but the enormous outpouring of support that he is received here in wilmington from family, friends, members of the clergy xi that is something that even prosecutors appeared a little concerned about because they said in their closing arguments that the jury should not consider the presence of the first lady and others in making there decision. and after the verdict, 100 treated that group is supporters sort of like a receiving line and went through and thanked each person individually. now, jquery expects me back here and women he ten and roughly 120 days for sentencing thank carola, kind of an uncomfortable coincidence today, the very day president biden's son is convicted on gun charges. >> the president spoke at a gun violence prevention conference, house. he handling all this well, it was an unfortunate coincidence of scheduling jake, the president delivering those remarks at everytown for gun safety is gun sense university and the white house had told reporters that the president was expected to announce that the department of justice has charged more than 500 defendants for violating some of the new provisions in a bipartisan safer communities act which he was touting the efficacy of and the strength of that law in those remarks. >> now, the president did referenced the fact that prosecutors have new tools to bring charges just against defendants on gun crimes. but he did not mention that number. that number instead, coming in a department of justice press release that was released earlier today, but it comes as of course, the president is in an uncomfortable position, both promoting these laws as well as dealing with what he has long said is a personal and family matter in his statement today in the wake of that verdict, he again praised hunters resiliency and recovery and said this, i will accept the outcome of this case and will continue to respect the judicial process as hunter considers an appeal jill and i will always be there for hunter and the rest of our family with our love and support nothing will ever change that. now that statement is expected to stand alone today with the press pool here at the white house reporting that the white house is no longer expected to hold a press briefing being the president, of course, on his way to wilmington were presumably he will spend time with family behind closed doors as he did in the days leading up to the beginning of this trial. and as the first lady did on at least a few occasions last tweak jake. >> alright. kayla tausche involve paula paula reid. >> thanks. thanks so much let's bring in my panel. >> tim parlatore, this is what's special counsel weiss said shortly after the verdict is above the law everyone, it must be accountable for their actions. >> even this defendant however hunter biden, should be no more accountable than any other citizen convicted of this same conduct. >> so tim, if hunter biden shouldn't be no more accountable than anyone else, what does that mean in terms of sentencing? >> yeah. so everybody has been talking about how this goes up to 25 years, but really that's just the first step of sentencing. federal sentencing is very involved. you start with the statutory maximum, then you go to the us sentencing guidelines. and sentencing guidelines are very sophisticated. math equations of figuring out all the different things that could apply. i've done my calculation. okay what do you got? >> zero to six months. okay. >> is what i think because you add all these points, it ends up as a base level offensive six. and i know some prosecutors may disagree with me on this point, but there's a reduction if they possessed it for the purpose of lawful sporting purposes collection. and did not unlawfully discharge or. otherwise unlawfully use the firearms or ammunition with his criminal history category of one, that gives you a recommended guideline range of zero to six. now when i heard wastes say that in the press conference i took that is an indicator that he is probably going to go into sentencing asking for probation. >> you think so? i do. and i think it's the right sentence in this in this case, there's there's a lot of things you can add on if it's an automatic weapon, if it was used as part of a larger crime, a crime violence and all those things that's what brings you up to the 25. but for this type of thing where there's no other aggravating factors a probationary sentence is appropriate. there are about i one of our contributors, stephen gutowski, he writes about guns for us, is very knowledgeable, says, if i have this right, it's about 200 charges like this a year and usually it is along the lines of somebody's found with drugs and a gun and the prosecutor decides to charge him with the gun charge instead of the drug charge, it's not somebody who confesses in a bestselling book. to it. and then they go and get him right. so do you agree with tim's analysis in terms of the sentencing? >> yes, i do. and the other thing that this judge is going to want to see basically how she has rolled in other cases similar to this for first-time offenders. and you can look and see in various databases at the justice department how those kinds of cases have been led down. these guidelines. so you can see whether this if it is as we suspect, zero to six is in line with other defendants with the same criminal history. and did not use the gut. and that's one thing that's a bit different about gun safety that the president was added was use the guy i'm thrown out. yeah. on his behalf, i guess or kind of a bone his bath, benningfield on twitter republican congressman tom massie of kentucky posted quote, hunter might deserve to be in jail for something, but purchasing a gun is not it. there are millions of marijuana users who own guns in this country and none of them should be in jail for purchasing or possessing a firearm against current law is i wouldn't say that thomas massie is a big hunter biden supporter but saying that this is kind of bogus in his view. yeah, republicans have kind of been all over the board today in their responsiveness. and it shows you, i think what a political challenge this is for them both from gun owner perspective, they're kind of loads to jump in and and beyond on the opposite side of the nra. for example, on the gun issues here but also i think that they have seen over time that trying to make a hunter biden's struggles with addiction, which is fundamentally what this is for the average american when you heard that from juror ten, who talked about all of the case in terms of the heart wrenching testimony and the struggle of the family republicans have really struggled to make this line of attack stick because most people see this and feel sympathy. most people have somebody in their family who's gone through addiction, they know what they feel for president biden. i think they feel sympathy for the biden family, and so i think there has i don't know that they fill it for i think we've seen well, but hunter is not an elected official. i mean ultimately the point of a political attacks i just want to be clear on sympathy though they've really struggled and they've really struggled to make the stick to joe biden. i think seeing that kind of reaction from asieh, the trump campaign sort of struggled to respond today. they put out a statement than they retracted it. then they send trump was going to say something on truth social. i don't think he has decided why not? we haven't seen anything. >> so this is not gonna be a political winner for them, but jamie, three jurors told cnn that they question whether the criminal case should have ever been brought against the president's son another said he doesn't think politics plays a role in anyone's decision to contract. first of all, i mean, kudos to the jury for doing there duty, even though they didn't think that this was worth that, they still just divided by what the judge told them to do. but what do you make of this? >> so first of all, if you can't have cameras in the courtroom, i want to say thank you, especially to juror number ten for coming out and speaking to us and the others about what happened i think what happened here today was the system worked as simple as that. it was common sense of juror number ten said to us that the jury came to believe that hunter was an addict at the time he felt out his forum and that he knowingly did did that. >> i also thought was very interesting. >> juror number ten also said that politics did not come into play, that they put a sayyed, that this was the biden family, although you could tell it was a federal case, but this was a delaware jury. juror number ten called the first lady, jill, right? 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>> well, i do think that you know democracy is held. the world was part of democracy jurors are one of the things the founders a door jurors because they were a kind of democratic decision-making. we can can't throw you away into jail so i think we will see that some of the attacks blunted earlier we saw that former president trump has not commented, for example, on this because yet but i think what you see is a totally different pitch from, we don't see hunter biden screaming about the logit illegitimacy of the justice system. and so that contrast to the former president and his antics, i will say at the trial, this rather dignified acceptance of responsibility is something that i think we we'll continue to see. >> so let me ask you this, tim, because it occurred to me. whatever one thinks about the biden family, hunter james, the president, et cetera what happened today? >> it would not have happened if a president vice upon taking office, didn't keep the us attorney of delaware as us attorney, even though he was appointed by trump because of the investigation into hunter and not wanting to be unethical and b, if us attorney general merrick garland hadn't appointed weiss, that us attorney as special counsel after the questionable sentencing issue. >> i mean it's just you can't dispute it i mean, it happened because joe biden, actually abided by what ethics officials would have wanted him to do. >> he left the trump appointed prosecutor in front of the trump-appointed judge and this was the result. i mean, look i'm not somebody that believes that the justice department and everything has been weaponized. i think i look at each one of these cases individually and we have had this type of thing throughout our history. we once had a president of the united states who ordered his vice president indicted thomas jefferson, aaron burr so this type of thing has happened throughout our history, but ultimately the jury is a great equalizer. and so i think that it is two biden's credit that he ki