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mohit you in your basket fruity pebble protein shakes. >> that's what i would do. yeah. no. i pour water in my own bag accident emily sometimes delivered jake tapper. >> so does he doesn't do that. he doesn't hold water just one week right here on cnn, biden and trump facing off. >> the lead starts right now we are literally just days away from what will kick off a critical stretch of the 2024 campaign. a debate and then right after it to conventions and in the midst of it, all the us supreme court ready to roll on presidential immunity and more and the campus arrest video scene around the world, police using tactical vehicles to get protests crews out of hamilton hall at columbia university. and now those protesters are having their day in court plus what exactly is going on in the south china sea right now? now a philippine ships sandwich by the chinese coast guard got violent quickly with multiple service members injured. it is a clear escalation and it could have serious implications for us here in the west will explain why coming up welcome to the lean on jake tapper we're going to start today with our 2024 leave because in just one week right here on cnn, you will see the most important event yet of the 2024 race next thursday night, president joe biden and former president donald trump will take the stage and the first presidential debate before the general election. i will moderate along with my friend and colleague dana bash now, not only is this showdown consequential, it also will be historic. this will be the first debate ever in american history between a sitting president and a former president. both of them vying for the white house. and yes, presidential nerds in 18 92 cleveland and harrison did not debate but back to today, cnn's amazing reporters are getting brand new details about how both candidates are preparing behind the scenes. let's go straight to cnn's kayla tausche, live at the white house and here with me in studio cnn's alayna treene, who's covering the trump campaign, kayla to have to you first, how is president biden preparing for the big night? >> jake the president will arrive at camp david tonight. his top aides will be there with him for several days of what was described as intensive preparations that could last right? up until the date of the debate with the white house preserving the possibility of traveling right to atlanta from camp david, depending on how much practice still remains. now, the format will evolve over the next few days. sources involved in the preparations say that they'll start with more informal discussions going through binders of potential topics, questions, responses, and prior trump rhetoric. and it will culminate in formal mock 90 minute debates in the next few days with president biden on his feet of preparing for what? that event will actually be like in atlanta, a week from today. >> now, the biden campaign's long-held theory of the case is going to be tested with the debate. >> they have always said that voters it's or disengaged. they're tuned out. and that once they start paying intention to the election, they'll realize the stark choice at hand and the danger that they believe donald trump poses to democracy now with the lion's share of likely voters planning to tune into the debate. they're trying to retread old donald trump material that they think didn't register with voters previously. one of those comments that they plan to highlight is trump's comments in december 2023 that he would not be a dictator, just on day one. now, president biden is a creature of habit. this is the first time he will be debating in four years since the last election. and he's gonna be surrounded by pretty much exactly it is same age. his former chief of staff, ron klain, who's been a democratic debate coach for the last 30 plus years, will be leading the preparations from camp david. he'll also have his deputy chief of staff, bruce reed, who's been charged with going through all of the hours and reams of material to help prepare him, as well as n needed done and mcdonald's and two of his longtime communications advisers will be on hand as well. and as for who will be the stand-in for president trump, i'm told that it's likely that bob bauer, the president's personal lawyer who stood in for trump back in 2020 will be reprising that role jake, fascinating stuff, alayna treene, what can you tell us about how for president trump is getting ready? well, one thing he's not doing is mock debates. we just heard kayla layout that president joe biden plans to do that and we know donald trump has done the role-playing thing in the past. he said rudy giuliani, chris christie, stand-in for his opponents. this time his campaign is trying to argue that donald trump does not need as much preparation. however of course he needs to prepare and according to my conversations with trump's advisers and those who have participated in some of these meetings. he's participated in more than a dozen what they're dumping policy discussions with people including vice presidential contenders, senators, his former administration officials. one of those meetings happened earlier this month at mar-a-lago where he huddled with jd vance, a top consideration for running mate hey and they talked about the economy, how to best shape, sharpen his messaging on inflation last week he met with senator marco rubio and center eric schmidt. they talked about his handling of the january 6 capitol attack, how to talk about whether or not he's a threat to democracy. these are all topics that donald trump's campaign knows that he could be vulnerable on, and that joe biden will very much try to go after him on. and so they've been workshopping some of that behind the scenes. i'm also told kellyanne conway, rick renelle stephen miller, all people who serve in his first administration have been part of these discussions as well. now it's not just policy, however, jake, that they're talking about, they're also discussing his rhetoric. we know and pass debates. donald trump has been very aggressive in 2020. he barely led biden get a word in at one of those debates and saw his numbers fall because of that, he's also been very aggressive towards with moderators. and so that has been coming up in a lot of these conversations as well. >> all right. alayna treene, kayla tausche. thanks to both of you? yes. this debate is a rematch, yet so much has changed since the two men first faced off in cleveland ohio four years ago. and in their final debate in nashville, tennessee, nearly four years ago cnn's jeff zeleny brings us now this look at how much the united states, the world, and these two candidates have changed since they first took the stage the historic rematch between joe biden and donald trump. >> is anything but a rerun the vastly different set of issues are driving this race. as the president and former president come face-to-face for the first debate of the 2024 campaign for years since they shared a stage for the worst president in america has ever had in 40 he seven months. i've done more than you've done in 47 years. joe feels like an upside down lifetime ago back when the coronavirus pandemic was raging understand if you look, i mean, i have a mask right here. >> i put a mask on when i think i needed this is his economy has been shut down in the biden trump sequence an entirely new fight has been brewing on the campaign trail. >> you could end up in world war three with this person is the worst president ever and in tv ads, this election is between a convicted criminal only out for himself at a president who's fighting for your family that offers a window into the new issues and fresh lines of attack. >> a reminder of just how much the country, the world and yes, they have changed from an insurrection and all its fallout to a new fight on abortion rights in the wake of the us supreme court overturning roe versus wade to russia's invasion of ukraine and a war in the middle east to the very stark question of america's role in the world. yet the economy inflation, and immigration are still at the center of it all trump's record was at the heart of their last debates, even as he sought to to deflect if he gets in, you will have a depression the likes of which you've never seen your foro. one case will go to hell and it'll be a very, very sad day for this country while those warnings didn't come to pass, biden's record is now under the microscope, complicating his effort to make it a referendum on trump. >> the fact is that everything he's saying so far r is simply a lie. i'm not here to call out his lies. everybody knows he's a liar, and america's oldest presidential candidates, or even older, trump's 78 and biden 81 with age and fitness for office. now a central issue in the race public opinion for presidents can be punishing biden's favorability has fallen 11 point since 2020, with nearly six in ten americans holding an unfavorable view, perceptions of trump have changed less with more than half still seeing him in an unfavorable light. televised debates have long been a storied part of his presidential campaigns in history. remaking moments for candidates. >> here you go again, get this showdown is without parallel. the nation's 45th and 46 presidents still seeking to define one another in the earliest general election debate in memory. >> and all dual being fought on new ground of course, never before have two sitting president's been face-to-face on a debate stage, a televised one at that jake last time, as we remember, it was all about trump's record, his handling of the coronavirus and the economy this time it is about biden's record no. >> data out. of course, they will try and make it about one another's, but the two men are the same. but boy, so much else has changed, so much jeff zeleny stick right here. >> let's broaden this out to our panel. let's start with what's on the minds of american voters. we have a brand new poll from fox, which shows president biden up by two points. you can see him at 50% trump and 48% still neck and neck. and let's point out as always, that's within the margin of error. that's basically statistics, statistically a tie. and what's really remarkable if you look back to previous polls by fox, just how little this racist changed. although i guess you could say that biden has ticked up since march kristen salty sanderson as the poll mr. at the table, how do you interpret this? >> well, when you look at those numbers, trump's numbers have fallen a little as biden's numbers have grown much more he is gaining from the undecided voters that checked out voters who have not been paying much attention. they weren't following things like trump's trial in new york, but are beginning to tune in and they're breaking away from from third-party candidates. or that undecided status and are becoming in the biden camp. now the problem that biden will have is these are lower engagement folks. they're not political junkies and they're not necessarily regular voters. so he's got both a persuasion problem and a turnout problem. he's got to face interesting mark you worked on the trump campaign in the fasta. what's your take on these numbers due on the first of the national poll numbers, it's like the meaningless sports power rankings. it's all about the swing states. so, but the things i took away, we're really the number one joe biden, strong disapproval on the major issues the economy, inflation, immigration, all double-digit and in some cases 30 points underwater. and then the fox poll had president trump former president trump, 27% of the black vote, 43% of the hispanic vote. joe biden cannot win if those numbers hold interesting in jaffa, the race is statistically tied on a national basis, although mark points out really this is about seven or eight states and how they do in those states though, the campaign spending on ads, campaign ads is not statistically tied. >> let's show this full screen right now and walk us through it, if you will. there's the numbers. >> look, it's really remarkable. the biden campaign spending some 53.8 million just this year, the trump campaign, this cycle spending $17.5 million there's some other trump money has been spent from super packs and the like. but the biden campaign has been really using this financial advantage to try and shake voters attention and draw this contrast again it's an open question though, how much this is actually worked. because for all the changes in this campaign that convictions and other things, the race this has been remarkably the same but if you look inside these numbers, i think we have this as well, state-by-state. look at the spending here, the biden campaign, pennsylvania, some $13.9 million. michigan, $9.7 million. numbers slightly hard to read here. >> you can see the millions on the biden campaign side, pennsylvania, michigan. >> oh, my god. georgia around you now on the trump campaign site, only thousands. >> yeah. i see your question. they have not spent the money. they've we'll see if they do going forward or is this a campaign year where television advertising doesn't matter as much? well, that's, that's what i was going to ask because in 2016, remember, they put all that money into facebook and social media. the trump people did and maybe got more bang for their buck, at least in states where it mattered. are they doing that this time? and it's not reflected in those numbers. some of it has been the fact that they have simply not had the money or they're holding it for other things. >> but we are about to see via financial reporting from the campaigns tonight. actually tonight, i believe so. we'll see how much the trump campaign has raised. it's been astronomical. i'm in the wake of his convictions. we'll see how much they put on television. but is this the campaign that's the tipping point where tv ads don't matter quite as much anymore. i'm a little skeptical because older voters are key to this election. they watch wheel of fortune, watch the news, and that's it's where those ads are. we'll see if it's lifted biden so far. it hasn't much. i'm karen for women voters, really, really important group also a new kaiser family foundation survey found nationally for women voters, inflation is a top concern, followed by threats to democracy immigration last is abortion and you can see similar results about around states such as michigan and arizona what's your take? >> a couple of other issues actually below abortion. sure. couple of things. number one, in both of these polls, i think if you take them together, women are going be critical for both candidates and we're seeing former president trump continued to struggle to solidify support from women. and i don't think he's gonna be able to do it. so the good news for joe biden is obviously women are critically important. obviously talking about the economy is critically important in the things that he's doing to try to lower costs, which i would love to see him do more of quite frankly but what abortion is on the ballot as we know in a number of key states also, contraception i wrote a piece for cnn.com about this this week, and you've got ten states where access to contraception and access to abortion, i think will help drive the women's vote. it is an economic issue for women, but no. question we've gotta be talking the more about the things the fact that there's price gouging and the things that the president is doing to try to lower those costs for people. >> let's turn to a vip stakes because president trump has yet to pick a running mate we know that it won't be mike pence. this time around. you highly unlikely misprints hasn't even said that he's gonna vote for, donald trump. so that's prob the trump campaign is sending north dakota governor doug burgum. burgum all over the country to battleground states. of course and ones that they want to become battleground states, such as virginia. and he's also making the rounds on tv for trump ticket. listen to what governor burgum said last night on fox under joe biden, were actually living under a dictatorship today, where he's bypassing congress on immigration policies, bypassing congress on protecting our border. >> he's bypassing congress on student loan forgiveness. he mused, defying the supreme court. i mean, those are the things that authoritarians and dictators do, is they don't follow our democratic processes i mean boarders anyway yeah. you know what nice try he is performing for an audience of one, they all are at this point and they know at one of the things that matters to trump is how good you look on television. >> so that's a big part of that. but just factually, let's be clear. president biden is taking these actions because democrats, republicans have refused to join democrats and taking action on some key issues. i think he would have loved to do it in a bipartisan fashion unfortunately, that avenue was not available because donald trump said to the republicans, don't work with those guys, no matter what, because it's not good for me in this election. let me ask the two republicans at the table and make a quick, just a who do you think makes the most sense for trump to pick his vp marketing and then president i would say either tim scott or at least a phonic, whereby those are two good pics. >> i'll all say tim scott, tim scott. all right. thanks to one and all. appreciate it as if the wildfires in new mexico were not enough. now, mudslides are making even more difficult for first responders. the latest we're hearing from officials and louisiana becomes the very first state to require public schools to display the ten in commandments in the classroom critics of this measure are already gearing up for a big legal fights. stay with us thanks, guys erin burnett out outfront tonight. it's seven odd cnn if you were 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