to the numbers because, you know, i've been doing this for 20 years. i see death up close. i have to tell families about their loved ones dying. the president doesn't. so many people don't. i think we need to bring it back to the humanity of it. >> yeah. it's a powerful image to see. once you really look at it, you know, in this tactile kind of way to see all of these numbers filling up this page on a sunday "new york times," it's powerful. >> all right. thank you all of you. i appreciate it. >> thanks. all right. still ahead, a dire economic warning from the white house. top advisor kevin hasset warns unemployment for the month of may could be 20% and could be in double digits the rest of the year. see the cnn interview next.