white house where president joe biden is set to hold a press conference with volodymyr zelensky. eight republicans want aid for ukraine tied to border security. and more than 100 attacks on u.s. forces by iranian proxies. when that presser gets underway, we'll take you there. first to the crisis at the border and the battle over the border on capitol hill. talks are underway right now. john thune will be here in a moment. but for the latest, we go to aishah hasnie with the very latest. aishah? >> hey, good afternoon to you, charles. several senate republicans i can tell you right now are looking at the white house and they want the president, president biden, to get involved directly in these border talks. we'll see if his time is meeting will convince him of doing that. we know the white house is involved. big developments in the last hour. i can tell you that house -- that homeland security secretary alejandro mayorkas and white house aides are meeting with senate negotiators right know and aides for leader mcconnell and schumer. schumer wants to get in deal done before the new year's. listen to this. >> serious means not saying we're going to go home. when there's an emergency, they say it's an emergency, both the border and in ukraine. you don't go home for three weeks. i called speaker johnson last night and urged him to stay. i spoke to leader mcconnell after the zelensky meeting and urged him to stay. >> i can tell you, charles, it's not likely if the house will stay any longer past tomorrow -- through thursday. i will say that house speaker johnson is leaving these talks to the senate and the white house. his meeting with zelensky did not move him on ukraine aid. he's demanding clarity on the war strategy and the border reforms before he's comfortable signing off on anything. now the question is about timing. will the senate actually stay and continue working through the holiday. senator langford, the lead negotiator on the republican side, thinks that everybody might go how many and negotiators stay and continue working through the holiday. we'll keep a track on it for you. charles? >> the most obvious parts to this from the american public's point of view is the images that we see every day. the border is wide open. young military age, young men from around the world are just strolling in to the nation. it seems somewhat ironic that you have folks in d.c. fighting tooth and nail for hundreds of billions of dollars to protect another nation's border but will allow ours to go -- doesn't seem political. it's ill-logical. >> what is interesting, the past several days here and weeks, we've seen more and more democrats actually come to that realization and publicly say that yes, something has to be done on the border. they do want something to be done. they see -- republicans see president biden's request in his global aid package for border security. they see that as an opening for border negotiations. what is also interesting, president zelensky while he was here was asked multiple different times what he thought about this fight over the border. does he think it's fair that it's being attached, do you he understand that it's being attached to his nation's national security. interestingly enough here, he did not answer that question directly. he kept side stepping it and avoiding that question. he'll be on with bret baier on "special report." we'll see if he answers it then. >> one more question there. you are there and you understand what's going on. you mentioned strategy. a path to victory. again, you know, the american public was -- every one was on board at the beginning.ukraine has put up an amazing fight. there's a realization that they need more money. i think it's clear that people are wondering how do they get to victory? two weeks ago the economist magazine had a cover suggesting that russia would win this. first time i've seen anybody in the european media make such a suggestion. >> i think there was reporting today that the russians were basically watching this meeting, president zelensky's visit to the white house and a capitol hill and putting out messaging, doesn't matter how much money he comes back with, doesn't make a difference. all the money he's received so far, billions, hasn't matters. ukraine hasn't won the war. the president, we've been told, did talk about his strategy in trying to win this war against russia. that's a huge question for not just republicans, democrats as well. some republicans want and off ramp. they want to know what is the end game. how do we get out of this should there be a resolution of continuously funding ukraine. >> thanks, aishah. folks, a lot of things moving today. we've got the meeting with president biden and zelensky. of course, everything that hangs from that. all the dots that are connected back to our own southern border. we have other things that you can see right here. a live picture of the white house with the ukrainian flag, the american flag on that vehicle. the ties are close. the ties are rightly tight. as our nation slips into a economic slow down, possibly a recession where more and more americans have to goo to food pantries, the stakes are high. people want more answers. it's not enough to funnel unlimited amounts of money to fight a proxy war. that's what we're doing. it's been phenomenal to see the fight that ukraine has put up. ironic, too, that those that are saying let's give a blank check were the ones at the very beginning that told zelensky get out of there as soon as you can. this will last 24 to 72 hours. obviously it has not but we're at a critical moment right know. want to get more with the south carolina republican, john thune. thanks so much for coming on the show. trying to set the stage here for what is an extraordinary moment. maybe a moment that republicans have hoped for with the sense that something serious could be done for border security under this administration. >> that's the plan, charles. you know, i think we do have an opportunity here, the democrats clearly and the president want desperately to get a supplemental bill passed that helps fund the efforts in ukraine, israel and the indopacific. what we have argued all along, we have a national security crisis at the southern border. national security starts at home. we cannot move a national security bill that doesn't address that crisis. there's not a day goes by that we won't get more and more signals that people are on the terrorist watch list that are trying to get here illegally through the southern border. some getting caught. a ton of got-aways. who knows how many there are, perhaps on the terrorist watch list and have malign designs on the united states. one way or another, we know there's going to be an incident here and that will get traced back to somebody that came across the border. the terrorists have figured it out and the cartels have figured it out. it's time to get serious about shutting it down. >> back in march, the white house released a fact sheet. the president provided resources to enforce immigration laws. the piece went on to say that the president has done more than all the presidents before with 23,000 agents. are the republicans making sure that we don't just have agents down there but allowed to do their jobs? agents at big gapping holes watching them come in and salute them is not what we called security. >> no. that's a critical distinction. yes, there may be people down there, but if you are not being allowed to enforce the law. clearly this administration could be doing this on their own. all they have to do is enforce the laws on the books today. they have chosen not to. what we have said, we're going to require this administration to start paying attention to the laws already on the books and to give them more authorities to do what they should have been doing anyway. you look at the numbers we saw last week, which were 10,000 to 12,000 every day, you annualize that, that's over four million a year. remember back in the obama administration. secretary jay johnson said 1,000 a day would overwhelm our system. we saw tuesday last week over 12,000 coming across the border illegally. the magnets are there. the big green light is there. all the signals are saying come. we got to change that. it's now no longer just a humanitarian issue. this is a national security crisis. a lot of bad people coming across our southern border. >> now you have democratic mayors and governors that are echoing sort of the same thing. they won't acknowledge necessarily the security threat, but the financial strain, which had been really unfortunately the smaller towns and border towns had to absorb the big brunt of that. on the other side, the funds for ukraine, what do republicans want to see? we're hearing either a path to victory or a strategy towards victory. we thought maybe that this winter that the last -- there would have been more progress. obviously a lot of that is hope. some of it was sort of a promise. it hasn't really materialized yet. >> right. so the opportunity we heard from president zelensky this morning and i had the opportunity to ask him a question, i raised three issues with him. obvious through one of the problems is dealing with our national security crisis at our southern border. the other two things he does. that is to make sure that they're clearly identified objectives, near term and long-term. and what are the capabilities that he needs to achieve those objectives so when we provide additional support we know how it's going to be used. i think there's a lot of support for giving what they need in terms of military aid, lethal aid. we want to see progress in that conflict. secondly, make sure that the dollars that are being sent are spend wisely and well. he addressed that issue. i think it's important that the american taxpayer know that if we're going to help a system and we should try to help them stop putin's advance and his attacks on what could be other places in europe, clearly that starts in ukraine. but we need to make sure that our tax dollars are used wisely and well. we got some of his responses when he was here. >> were you happy with those responses or leave some uncertainty? >> well, i think largely generally speaking happy. the one thing i will say and one of the things that came out in my view is -- we've been saying this all along. if they had gotten the military assets earlier, we might be in a different place today. unfortunately they have delayed in many cases getting them the things that they need to succeed on the battlefield. that is something that also i think has hurt the effort. >> that's a deterrence that we know is always the first thing that you want in these situations. maybe we wouldn't have this conversation. israel was speaking at the u.n. some would say there was this ugly push at the u.n. not just calling for a cease fire but obviously casting israel in a negative light. what part of this negotiation is israel and israeli aid play? >> for sure we're going to support our ally israel. it's a big part of it. there's four components to this. aid for israel, aid for ukraine, aid in the indopacific to reinforce taiwan and obviously our southern border. with respect to israel, the one thing we want to make sure, any dollars that go over there are not ending up in the hands of hamas. and so those are -- we want clear conditions and restrictions placed on the assistance there to make sure that the israelis are controlling it. any money that is going in to gaza is not ending up in the hands of the terrorist group that has wreaked all of this havoc and created this horrific acts in that area of the world. >> senator, i have to go. before i do, the messaging part of this always seems to overshadow what should be logical negotiations and maybe faster resolutions. seems like there's a public relations effort now to penny sort of ukraine defeat on republicans. the gamesmanship, the lollygagging. how do you pup back against that? >> i just say it's up to the democrats. they have the majority here in the u.s. senate. they have the presidency. if the president wants assistance for ukraine, many of us are inclined to support that request. but it's got to come with some border security measures that defend america's borders first and foremost. they could do that tomorrow, charles. so obviously they're trying to win the messaging war here. but in our view, at least, if all they have to do is come to the table, work with us to reinforce our southern border, to try to deter the national security threats that we believe are very real down there and we can address these national security issues we're facing elsewhere around the world. >> senator john thune, thanks. appreciate it. >> thanks, charles. >> we'll see what questions the president fields at this joint news conference coming up. will he call for university presidents at harvard and mit to resign? it's not just republicans like elise stefanik that want to see that. meet the florida democrat that is demanding it next. my active psoriatic arthritis can make me feel like i'm losing my rhythm. with skyrizi to treat my skin and joints, i'm getting into my groove. ♪(uplifting music)♪ along with significantly clearer skin... skyrizi helps me move with less joint pain, stiffness, swelling, and fatigue. and is just 4 doses a year, after 2 starter doses. skyrizi attaches to and reduces a source of excess inflammation that can lead to skin and joint symptoms. with skyrizi 90% clearer skin and less joint pain are possible. serious allergic reactions and an increased risk of infections or a lower ability to fight them may occur. tell your doctor if you have an infection or symptoms, had a vaccine, or plan to. thanks to skyrizi, there's nothing like clearer skin and better movement... and that means everything. ♪nothing is everything♪ now's the time to ask your doctor about skyrizi. learn how abbvie could help you save. this is your season to smile with new dentures from aspen dental -- to raise a toast and gather together, to wrap up the fun and round up the gang. to help get you ready, your aspen dental denture team is celebrating 25 years of affordable care with an epic anniversary savings event. don't miss enjoying a moment with fast repairs in our onsite labs and 20% off your custom dentures. plus, we have a denture money back guarantee so you can smile with confidence. aspen dental. book today. >> charles: welcome back. i'm charles payne in for neil cavuto. to chad pergram on capitol hill with the latest. chad? >> good afternoon. the house intends the vote tomorrow to formalize the impeachment investigation. this comes as hunter biden is scheduled to appear before the house oversight committee for a closed-door deposition. democrats are seizing on money transfers between president biden and his son. they say the president was doing what any father would do for their off spring. >> republicans are trying to turn this $4,140 worth of help during hunter's time of struggling with addiction into an impeachable offense? a parent's love is never without pain. the pain of watching your child struggle with addiction is something that too many americans know intimately. >> republicans have talked impeachment for months. house speaker mike johnson says it's not preordained that the probe triggers articles of impeachment for the president. >> people are getting restless. they want things to happen quickly. if you follow the constitution and do the right thing, you cannot rush it. you have to follow the facts. >> you don't think there's an expectation by the base that your side is going to impeach the president? that's what the they were elected in the majority. >> people have expectations on all sides. >> previously the gop never had the votes to approve the impeachment investigation. moderate republicans from swing districts are now willing to vote yes. the head of the democrat's political efforts for 2024 is watching. deeply cynical attempt to distract the public from the fact that they're doing nothing, nothing to make a difference in the lives of everyday families and their districts. it's a perfect example of how out of touch house republicans are. >> now republicans would not bring the impeachment resolution to the floor if they lack the votes and the house does not impeach the president, this could be the only time that the house votes on something related to impeachment. charles? >> charles: thanks, chad. folks, you're looking live at eisenhower executive office building where president biden is holding a joint press conference with volodymyr zelensky. the question will he weigh-in on calls for elite universities to kick their presidents out. first, the latest as harvard said that president claudine gay isn't going anywhere. first we go to bryan llenas. >> president claudine gay will remain in her position despite calls from donor, alumni and jewish students for her to step down. this is in a statement. they are confident that president gay is the right lead tore help our community legal and address the serious see so i tall issues that we're facing. this follows two months of complaints from jewish students that say that they feel unsafe on campus under gay's leadership. it follows her failure to condemn calls to extinguish jews. here's elise stefanik. >> this is a moral failure of harvard's leadership at the highest levels. the only thing that they made to their code of conduct where they failed to condemn calls of gen site of the jewish people, the only update to the code of conduct is to allow a plagiarist as the president of harvard. >> harvard admitted that they became aware of plagiarism allegations in late october. a there were some inadequate citations but no research misconduct. dr. carroll swain claims that gay plagiarized from her book, "black faces, black interests" on two occasions. >> if she was a white male or female, she would be gone right now. we all know what plagiarism is. she violated that and needs to be held accountable. >> 39 students have been forbesed to withdraw from harvard the last two academic years for violating harvard's honor code, which bans cheating, falsifying data and yes, plagiarism. charles? >> charles: before i let you go, the resignation of the university of pennsylvania president elizabeth mcgill, did that -- does that sort of establish at least a precedence of sorts because if -- some of these ivy leagues have seen the light. others are to your point digging in. >> look, we've had three examples. three presidents at the congressional testimony. so far only one has resigned. the other two have clearly dug in. precedence? of all three, if they all resigned, that would set a precedence. right now upenn is an outlieder. >> charles: thanks, bryan llenas. my next guest is joining elise stefanik and demanding that harvard and mit presidents be fired. jared moskowitz is here. welcome to the show. explain your side of this and just how outrageous is it to you that it's come to this? >> well, it's completely outrageous. representative stefanik didn't ask a trick question. this was a softball question to leaders of three top universities in this country, which was the calling for the genocide of jews, is that harassment. does that violate your code of conduct. the answer was it depends on the context. the context of what? the type of the genocide? one of the other answers was it might violate the code of conduct if it becomes the code -- the student code of conduct if harassment then comes in to conduct. stefanik said the act of genocide, it was such a low moment for these universities. quite frankly the jewish community is thinking to themselves, if you take out jews and you sub in any other persecuted minority group, there's no way these professors and these folks running universities would have answered that