>> judge jeanine: hello everyone, i'm judge jeanine pirro along with herald for, jesse watters, katie and briane who's here from this morning. it's 5:00 in new york city and this is "the 5".en o president biden on the world stage for the dj 80th anniversary of normandy and l doing very littlite to dispel concerns about his diminishing mental acuity following a bombshell wall street journal report that claims he's slipping due to age. the president looking lost while getting out of the car and later seen shuffling from event tom ev event.ptin social media erupting over 1 moment where joe awkwardly fumbles for his seat as otherie dignitaries remained standing.s >> distinguished guests, please welcome the honorablede secretao of defense of the united states of america. >> judge jeanine: meanwhile the might have -- white house is turning into a cleanup crew asnu they attacp k the wall street journal report"t.mo they've been urging democrats who were interviewed for that damning exposé about president biden's brain drain to call the newspaper back and push back on those false narratives. nancy pelosi is slamming it as a "hit piece" but donald trump is saying i told you so. >> president of china, putin, kim jong-un, all of the leaders are at the top of their game mentally. and they are dealing with somebody that is not at the top of his game.t sh you have a man that should not be doing this job. he's not qualified, he's not mentally sharp enough and i don't believe he was 20 years ago either. >> judge jeanine: katie, i will start with you, the wall street journal, i mean they didw there's report when they knew that the president was on his way to go to normandy. was it bad timing? might they have pulled the plug a little bit for another week?ie >> katie: it's not up to the wall street journal to save the president from embarrassmentt bebefore a big international trh especially when the report had democrats and republicans talking about his decline. but i think the bigger pictureth of this was on display today with president joe biden in normandy.me it's not just that he's mentallh declining, it's that his weakness has resulted in consequences for europe and for america and for the world. you have ukraine, which is of course russia's invasion for the first time, a major land composition, since world war iiu and that is highlighted when yo have the president here to commemorate the 80th anniversary of d-day. have him sending millions of dollars, hundreds os millions of dollars to hamas and gaza when they are waging a war against israel, a democracy established in the aftermath of world war ii. a so wnde can laugh and say he's declining and he does these things that are clear that he'se maybe no wt really sure where hs going or he has to be escorted off the stage by first lady jila biden but the reality is thatss his weakness on the world stage and mental decline has had severe consequences for america and it puts us at grave risk as these peoplepe around the world who are strong, you want to take advantage of that, are making their moves and unfortunately there will be more of them. >> judge jeanine: all rightey jesse, they say they interviewed 45 people, democrats andpeop republicans, although the only people willing or whose nameshe were mentioned were johnson and, mccarthy, both republicans, although the congressman from new york apparently called andeo said the white house said i should call you back. >> jesse: i bet the white house called every single 1 of t those democrathes to get them bk on the record to say the guy is beautiful and limber. but judge, you know, thepr presidency, a lot of it is ceremonial and you do these observations, you pay respectsy and that's what the public expects. you want ili to see presidential stature.yo this guy has shown an inabilityo to go to that level, whether i it's him checking his watch when the coffins come home or he was comatose at the maui fire event. he falls asleep at the un. he botched the white house christmas tree lighting, judge. he skipped to the 9/11 ceremony and then falls flat on his facel that west point.t po and so it's very clear to everybody now that his walk, his walk is stiff and slow, his syntax is a disaster. it does not look like he hears very welsl and he looks lost and confused more and more in public the american people deserve better. the white house behind the beh scenes is probably working overdrive to produce the petite -- but jesus out of this guyt when they should be focusing oni serving thcae american people. d every time he doesn't event you are not talking about the men and women who sacrificed, you are talking about joe biden because he distracts from every event he participates in. and then you see this wall street journal piece and the american people fairly or unfairly connect the w physical with the mental. if you see someone falling and stuttering and stammering and not able to rise to the levelyo you think well is he able to make decisions for the best interests of the country, is hee observing our enemies keenly, are his relationships with our key allies deteriorating?? we have no idea, but that's aha normal assumptiot n and we shoun not be having to have these concerns. we have a lot else going on. >> judge jeanine: you know,me s harold, nancy pelosi comes out and says it's basically a hit a hipiece, the wall street jourl piece and, you know, the democrats have been toutingeh that, yoinu know, behind-the-scenes joe biden has all ofl this energy and yet the reporter said the picture that they painted of his being more energetic behind the scenes is really the exact same as whate the public is seeing on the outside. so >> harold: good to be with everybody.le o i think a couple of things. i think the article, probablyig both sides are right, there are probably a lot of people that said things in the article that contradicts some oquf the thingm that did a not get quoted.pt t i think we should all except the fact that the country does not look to president trump as a moral authority on marriage and they don't look for joe biden to be an authority on physical youthfulness. we've known that nowwe for someo time. think the speech that he gave in normandy was pretty good. i think we reached a point unfortunately where i think some of our politics has gotten so divided or divisive that we can't even objectively listen to our president on the 80th anniversary of i believe the most important battle, military battle our nation has ever fought and thankfully won.he i thought he gave a good speech. i thought there were times whene president trump gave great speeches on important dates andr important anniversaries for america and america's role in the world. but we are in campaign season and that point is not lost on me and i know that there are probably some who because of the politics cannot even listen to our president, who is our duly elected president, on a day that is not supposed to be partisan but a day we are supposed to be remembering and saluting and thanking those, the brave who helped make our freedom possibl >> judge jeanine: you knowpo, it it, brian, that we are so divided that we can't listen to president biden or is it thatde president biden seems so clueless that we are just kind of trapped watching him as opposed to listening to him? >> brian: i was able to watch a him this morning and harold you make good points. i could not care personally about republican or democrat. you get the country and you knoe for a strong defense the fundamentals are there. i worry about the specifics inat that story. i worry about the fact that in the speech, i like the speech, r have no problem with bringing ud ukraine. there is a similarity betweend putin and hitler, no doubt. he wants the same thing, to dominate europe. we've been through this before. europe has to respond. england, poland, sweden, you've got the message, other guys, pick it up.d israel shoulhad have beench mentione.d. my goodness, israel should have been mentioned. when hmee waspees in those meet in that article they brought out russia. he's like there was a long pausn and he't could not contribute, they had to find a way to get armaments to ukraine. i want a president to say why w are thhye sanctions not working? how come they lost 200,000 people and don't seem to care? what do we do if we can't get the munitions? he can't even run the meeting oa participate in that's what bothers me. also went speaker johnson said mr president, you have stopped energy production and natural gas and goes what are you doing? he goes no, that was a study. he goes no, you did it. total silence. nnsythe governor of pennsylvania week ago goes this better be ahe shock pause. offered to the pause does not even know it's a pause. these are the specifics of whata happened thatt bothered me. leslie arthritis written stiff walk. i'm more disturbed that i thinkh the country is running on autopilot and i hope it's not a bunch of 24-year-old interns. >> harold: i hope in the debate trump confronts him on that and let's get to the bottom of it. he will be penalized for that if he's wrong. i'm only saying when i think th president gives lia speech on a daily today, i think we as americans should be able to commemorate and honor those who fought.nl >> brian: certainly. that was unbelievable. it was amazing. >> today it was but he forgot tc do it multiple times when he wai in office so it's nice to show up todayt . j >> 2022 only tweeted something out late. >> judge jeanine: had to ber reminded. coming up, hunter biden got some horrible news. daddy's and not bailing him out. 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[♪♪]: the prosecution's most damning witness taking the stand and hunter biden's gun trial asn his father president biden pums the brakes on a pardon.ps t the president saying in an interview with abc released inee about an hour that he would accept the outcome of his sons trial trial and he would not pardon his son.on really? that comes. as hunter's sister-in-law turned ex-lovertun took the stand today revealing the first son introduced her to crack during their relationship. she detailed what she discovered when she discovered the gun and then threw it away in the trashcan outside a grocery store later hunter's defense was trying to blame her for the drug residue on the back that the gun was founded. today she testified the brownbao she stopped the gun in was sometimes used to store drugs b hunter so what was accomplished? by all of this? what are we finding out? >> katie: we are finding oute that a lot of these people are a mess and that she testified tha hunter introduced her to crack cocaine. that's really awful, that she wanted to remove drugs from ther car becauss e their daughtersha would take the car, he had drugs around them. i think his attorneys werewho probably saying she's the the 1 who put the gun inside the bag but the drugs are on it so you can't say that was hunter doingc that so it's not connected. but i think they are really happy this is not a televised trial because the details areg really shocking anand they arerh flashing everything that was on the laptop onto the screens in the courtroom. some of it blurred out for the jury. so det it's really, the detailse just horrific and the bottom line of hunter biden dating his brother's widow in the aftermatn of all this and then introducino her to drugs is pretty gross detail if you are a normal person watching. >> i think she got married a couple of days ago.rt >> herro husband showed up with her at the courtroom today.wh >> and then you wonder whatth happened a few days before thees trial when president bidenid wet to visit her. but i think there's a couple of things going on here. with the 24 -- when the 24-year-old he was dating came out and said he was amazed and confused he would to crack and he would be totally fine, which show no signs that he did it. mg to me there might be indicationa that htie might have been doing some of these high wire deals on crack. >> might have been? absolutely he was.lute i think one of the witnesses today said that sometimes he would have crack rocks the size of a marble, other times he would show crack rocks the size of ping-pong balls.lls. he had crack all the time. he was texting her i believe in mid-october which was when he purchased the gun, right now i'a passed out smoking crack.an and then the other text, in doing a drug deal with my man. they have him dead to rights on that and then they also have surveillance video of her picking up the gun, putting it in the dumpster and apparently this vagrantd named ed who liks to dumpster dive comes over,t picks itov up, hands it over to the police. hunter freaks out because it'sgt registered to him and then makee hallie go reported as stolen. and i mean you just look at this mess and loo you have to think e people are trash and the president has a family that is dysfunctional and he's put his son through a mess because hisn son had to make money for the family and the defense is havini a very hard time right now because they don't have a defense because it is so ironclad. the prosecution has been very effective in marrying the gun to the drug abuse. they are saying that he needed to get the gun for personal protection because he was doing all of these shady deals inho these horrible neighborhoodsighb with the dregs of society. i don't see how this is anything other than a guilty but you never know if he gets homear cooking in delaware. >> i always hear that he has this great lawyer.n who goesdr and buys a gun and ss yes, i meant drugs, is that au arproblem. he says you just tried to up the sale. he says i just -- i get the sam whether i upgrade the sale or not. so wharit are we learning from this? they should haveing w beeenn sg that never went to trial, it kno looks dead to rights.s >> i don't know.fa he's facing two felony countsci and he'sal letting the judicial system work its will.itne we are witnessing -- >> what do you think so fard: ithough?gs >> i don't know, i've never known drugads before, i don't kw what it's like to be addicted, don't own a gun. >> jesse: don't t tell peoplema that, harold, make them think>> you are strapped. >> harold: i've never lied ont the gun application. it is on a level bewildering to meet to watch it because it has to be humiliating and painful because the family has known a this about hunter and he's clearly obviously turned a new f chapter in his life, but to here all these things, it has to be painful. , andyrled earliere mccarthy wasie on earlier saying how this case, if he's convicted here, how this likely could be overturned because of -- you will basically pit the law about whether or not you can own a guv if you have some alcohol orho substance challengesl against o second amendment and howmend absolute the second amendment is so we shall see but i don't know. he couldat w likely be convicte. but it was an interesting legal theory to here andy profit. >> did you hear andy say this earlier? >> the reformed hunter biden still wrote the book and he still did a press tour when he was of course asked the question, is this laptop yours? i don't know, i don't remember. clearly he lied and then joeebat biden during the debate, he l lied. that leads to the question, whyo did they wait so long to bring this forward?d? when you tell a bunch ofbl republicans a laptop is notyo real, you then give them powerfo in the house.go of course they are going toop pursue whether it is real, whico leads to the gun charge all these years later. >> judge jeanine all: look, let make this clear, i did this forf 32 yearsor, this case is as cle as any case and unless the supreme court comes down andaler says crack dealers and drug addicts are allowed to have guns too, this case will be affirmed on appeal. what you have here is aly dysfunctional family. you've got a dysfunctional family where the widow of the brother of the defendant was def introduced to crack cocaine, they are uploading pornographic videos into some website and she's throwing his gun away andh then he's having her lie and she then reports the gun was stolen. in addition to that, you havedd his wifeit who has to check the car, his truck, to make surepi there's no crack pipes and drugc in the carar because her daughtr drives the truck. and then what you've got is this so we saying every 20 minutes the guy is doing crack, every 20 minutes. >> she found him charming.t >> judge jeanine: i'm sure he was a charmer but this is more than letting the judicial system work, this is trying to pull the wool over the eyes of everybody when they got the judge cede --, she said wait a minute this guyo is going to be immune from prosecution for the rest of his life? i've never heard hea anything le that.ju justice department, have youer d ever done anything like this before? they say no, we haven't. so it's because they tried toy pull a fast one on the american people. t just with this crime itself but they tried to pull a fast one with the laptop. this is karma coming back atri them becauseed they tried to change the results in may have change the results of an election. when antony lincolenn got intel agents togethe ar and the whole lot of them to say this as all the clues of russian disinformation, all they had to do was get the laptop and say do you have an e-mail from hunter biden, yeshu or no, and that's y the new york post went with it and did publish it, because they knew that they were clear of any defamation -- defamation claim. this is karma coming back at the biden's. >> how about leon going hey joei before i sign off on this, just tell me, my reputation of 50 years, is this your laptop are these your e-mails because itit looks pretty specific.on not one person picked up the phone. >> they lied about it. >> and this guy was leading a hedonistic life, hanging out ind rich hotels doing crack with a n 24-year-old. he was not suffering. >> judge jeanine: he , washe not >> hsuffering. he's not being charged with addict, he's beingakin charged with making the choice to lie to get a gun. the department of justice in 2022 pushed for an increase in the penalties from 10-15 yearse for people who lie to get a gun. so let's n not make like thist isn't something thatso they are just prosecuting because it's m.th they are not. >> okay. i'm proud of that lock. i'm going to stay the rest ofre the show. ahead, dst of o the left -- dide left attempt to throw president trump behind bars backfire? 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