with katieie with ka pavlik,ti kevin walling, kayleigh mcenany and greg gutfeld. it's 5:00 in new york city. and this cis is the five cheap e . we just got another one of w those unedited videos of the president acting like himself that drives the white house insane. thatves the joe biden seen shufp speed of an elderly man with a any as he gingerly makes his way across the tarmac to cam p david.up for right now, he's holed up for the next several days with nothing else on his scheduleothing e except to crame crazy for the cnn presidential debate. zyr the a lot is riding on the y because is the way the liberal puts it. if biden loses, democracy is dead foreve ir. the press laying out their sky high expectations for his performanc e prese like not freezing. >> he absolutely have a seniorre moment at this debate. that's what i heard from. ago s in wisconsin and michigan two weeks ago for a lot of focus groups. and what i heard from voters, hears who support biden isg to just that they are going to behe watching and they want to make sure that he's up to the task. >> republicans and trump and his minions have done themselves such a disservice with all of these edited cut and spliced videos that they're spreading around.e they've lowered the bar so that if joe biden shows up muc and keel over on his way to the podium, he's had a good night. e >> while joe gets tooled up to take on trump. the media is als to tao trying o biden to get it together on those plunging poll numbers c switch up his strategy. there's a new report in new york magazinis ae. have do liberalits have it all wrong about how to beat trump? encouraging joe to move to the center. tand thinks biden's character attacks on trump are failing d as the former president obliterates biden's cash advantage. >> but kamala says biden is staying the course. >> when you look at the difference, i would as kwhat t people really imagine what the world will be like on january 20th, 2025. ja25the is going to make clear e our president,n the current president who works on behalf of the american people, fights for the american people, and the former president who pretty much spends fulle and al time fightig for himself. >> katie, there's lot of trepidation on the left. >> they need they need to change the strategy. he needs eeted to to do this. o he doesn't need to do that. not a lot of confidence goin.noi into this debate. >> yeah, and it could be, again, that they're just doing this, that whed n shows up,can a they can say he did a great job. he beaid atublica republican expectations, he made arguments or, you know, defendedn ations hde argum his . went after trump's character. and of course, the media is going to of that the dayt to after and highlight what they think biden did very welaftel. but i was going back over the debate rules and i think the american are getting a notat getting a fair shake here. i mean, there's really no opening statements, which, of course, candidates can make statements, but there's noh stam opening statement. also, their microphones will be muted. soph will b really, there's not going to be this back and forth that we want to see that everybody wants to see. >> and it really just doesn't give us an opportunity i, see them go at each other to see tried and tried to defend his record. bitrieiss trump relying on his s focusing on the issues. i think it really is just going be a little bit boring and too produced when it comes to what we're goin g actually see when people can't talk unless their microphones. >> do you agree with the mute button? ja you think that's goino yog to take away the jazz or is it strag to be good to have the american people hear straight forward conversationsationers? >> i mean, i'd love to seet that. the other interesting thing to candy'sthe intere point, too, is there's no live audience, right? so both these guys kind of fuel themselves fee off the audience reaction. so that's going to be a noticeable change as well. but listenticeable chang, you k, to katie's point, i think there is expectation settingex right?r we're lowing expectations. now. donald trump is out there saying, actually joe biden's a greaumsat debater.a gr he had a great debate against paul ryan, all of this kind of stuff afterea months and weeks of saying this guy is incompetent, he can't get anything done, he can't put two sentences together. >> so is that saying that expectation thing? yeah, that's that's part of it,a too. and he's the mastester putting g folks down like that. >> but certainly, i think, you know, a lot of eyes are going to be on this debatele thursday. we've got wall to wall coverage here on fo wall-x and it's going to be critically, critically important because it's going to be the first time these two are on the same stage together since the last debate. >>the fi oe th four years ago. >> they're saying biden needs to movo.e the center. k >> is it a little late for that, katie? i mean, carly, i'll take it. i'll take it. i love katie. i'll take cable. i do think it's a little late. i mean, we that with the late executive order of, you know, ally all of a sudden care about asylumxecutive, he obvious not. but to the expectations point, there has a lot of conversation about the gop loweringt expectationsgo. ion is but what expectation has b biden set for trum p for three and a half years? we have heard maga is a clear and present danger. clear they are a threat to our republic. they are toward hi prm. they they embrace anger. they thrive on chaos. so to the point of you e thrivrt night, jesse, what happens when trump shows up with humor and jest? we know he can be charmingr an and diminishes the expectations that president biden has set. xpectatik that there's a really real risk of that. and i would say to biden, if i prepping him at camp david right now, do not sayn yor convicted felon, your campaign has leaned in. ca ithat is the lean in cost you? you're the loss of your cash on hand advantage. trump has now trouncede in fundraising because you've leaned into this. so if you lean into it , ul biden might as well quit running for office and become the chief fundraiserdent t for president trump. >> so, kelly saying that they've madrue donald trump into a monster and he's going to be out there thrashinng around and throwing things if he's just out there, calm. gutfeld few jokes. >> easy. waters and i think he's going to beat those expectations that way. >> i don't know. first off, they they want himt to move to the center to win an mo why not move to the the c center to help the country? ifou you had done that sooner, you wouldn't be doing that. now, when it's too late. f >> i hate the fact that you need an electionac to doo th the right thing or do the decent thing. >> and but thing anyway, they dt listen to me. you know, they i think the cheap fakes right now to designed, likely designed to make joe look normal. rememberk normalrememb that thee a 22nd ad about i think it was about the debates wheresaid joe said two sentences. it 2 had eight edits in itor to remember that that did more. it was more cut upup in joe's food. >> and even and even with those edits, he didn't look coherent. >> he looked like max headroom made it with what's that guy, walter, the dummy? >> you know, the only cheap fake is on jesse's head. but i do feel bad for joether because there are people in dc who are pushing democrats to replace kamala hillary. and that's not fair to joe. i mean, so far he's only hadbout to worry about dying from natural causesm. but if elections were honest, trump would win in a landslide. >> but dems are looking to do something i don't trust them. >> sorry, kevin. look at what they bought this guy. yeah. this look. >> but look at what they've already done to win. whether it wast what russiancolo collusion, the tape, laptop suppression, comparing everybodpe y to hitler, the lawfare which was unprecedented the january six commission. you think they're just going to stop at the finish lineu because? they're guys almost finished himself. they're workint fi g on something. >>it i don't know what it is. could be another big hoax. maybthere his cognition is the hoax. i don't know what to say. one more thing about what kevin was saying about them being back on the debate stagesa . donald trump should remind joe biden of what he did on the debate stagldmindould ree they were together when he told the country that the hunter biden laptope was a russian disinformation op abusing the intelligence community the, saying that they were endorsing the fact that it was an and that it was a russia nn sh information campaign. he should remind them that he was lyinin g to and that they didn't take any money. his family never took money from china or all these other foreign countries. that wasn't true. so he should remind him of the last time they were together. and the things that joe biden said to thgether thinge american while they're watching now that he has the opportunity to do it again fake jake, le tht say it right. >> yeah. joe joe might not even remember. he said that at at not the rt tt debate. >> can i probably say that? a chilling theory. i hope, is what if the dems are better with losing?with they're actually okay with it. i mean, doesn't seem like they're like, into this anymore . >> you know, maybe maybe they see something ahead that's coming that's really bad. >> i mean, if you think about it took 200 years to get $1 trillion in debt. now we get $1,000,000,000,000 in debt every 100 days. tr you back, that looks like a spiral, you know, and it's a spiral you won't feel until the plans e hits the ground.w th what if they know that thatoi plane is going to hingt the ground in 1 to 4 years? maybe they don't want to bemayb in powere when that happens, but i think they definitely want to be in power. >> matter what? as a democrat, we wanted to vote for the whit>> we als we house parties, if nothing else. >> all right. coming up, hou joe biden has more blood on his hands. gut wrenching new details afte rs afte . >> two illegal immigrants brutally strangled a 12 year old girl to deathr lmigran this is what we call luxury turquoise waters. you'll be engulfed in the world of indulging and serenity. this is the battle to the great outdoors. this is exquisite. >> we are skiing. ski out for all of our members . go. okay, we're ready. this place is extraordinary. at every turn. judge jeanine is taking you inside the world's finest accommodations. see you at the lodge we'v high later. life of luxury. life of luxury. new season streaming nowe ver sk nation. a but you've told us many things that love, stargazing, hate that love, stargazing, hate parallelstou. and occasionally your right foot gets a little heavy. the lexus esv didn't begin in the studio. >> it began with you. >> you know what's crazy? 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it makes me scared living here. scar? e the country? absolutely. what is the price that thethey biden administration is willing are killers came over k and said that they were came because said they were fearing for their lives and yet they were released into the country. if donald trump has gotten a lot of heat from, people in the media for saying he's too harsh on this issue, he's categorizin harshg these people inappropriately. he's saying they're coming from prisons, that they'r hthem ie that they're and murderers. well, there's a whole lot of theere ar m. a it's -- it's there's no excuse for a single one of them to be here 1 t. and yet they're committing crime after crime. and these are the most horrific chimes there's also other crimes that change people's lives. hit and run accidentans, drunk driving, theft, going up in a number of places all over payin the country, people having to pay for their own accidentsg because people don't have car insurance and they're driving illegally. >> it continues to go on. and donald trump will get on the phone with someone in venezuela and if you don't stop sending these criminals here, you're going to paying fo for and you're going to pay for it in a really harsh way, get it under control . and the idea now that you have a majority of people saying they want deportationl ys because of exactly stuff like this, people know people this is happening to and they're tired of it and they don't want their kids or their wife or family member to be next or just another story. i believe out of of an illegalll immigrant who killed a grandfathegrandfr, innocent americans are suffering as a result of this this crisisa cris that the biden administration has create d and opened the floodgates. and they are not trying to do anything to it all across the country. and the aider and a better across greg, is the media. this this headline is astonishing. part ie medide associate they're a wire service. so a lot of other outlets take t their headline and run with itat and you see it here two meedn men arrested and strangulation of 12 year old houston girl. they were illegal immigrants t and they leave that detail out. and how do they even know their man? >> howd they him what they identified with? that's outrageous. you know, the left always says silence equals death, except they say that here when it's real, you keep quiet. s these murders, more of them will come. silence equals death . but it's the media, oddly, that's enforcing the overall silence. if only these these victims were trans indigenous spirit animals. the culprits were cops off duty cops and . this would be on a loop. but as i a t right now, this story has a lid on it. medi joe biden every day. i think the message you get from the media is that they don't value victims unlesss they fit a progressive narrative. they wils theyl have believe that thousands of unarmed black men were killed by policoe officers every year, which is false. >> or thousands of teens i will kill themselves without act, without access to. ta all false. but when you have real exampleso of successive stories of horrible tragedy, nothing to see here. am