>> folks come i don't know what you did last night but i spent 90 minutes on a stage and debated a guy who has the morals of an alley cat. [cheers and applause] when you see trump last night, my guess and i mean this sincerely but he set a new record for the most lies told in a single debate. [cheers and applause] he lied about the great economy created. he lied about the pandemic he botched killing millions of people. he closed businesses, he closed schools losing their homes people all over this country. america was flat on its back. so i told trump that he was 1 on history who left office with fewer jobs then he started. herbert hoover was the other one. that's why i call him donald "herbert hoover" trump. >> sandra: that was present by in a short time ago he took the stage in raleigh and address concerns about the debate last night. and north carolina both biden and former president donald trump are right now on the campaign trail following the debate. biden's dream confirming a short time ago to fox news he will attend the second debate in september and he has no plans to drop out. welcome back, i am sandra smith this is "america reports" i am live in new york and trace it is great to have you here today. we knew this would be a rocking afternoon and it is proving to be the case. >> trace: indeed, i am trace gallagher in los angeles in four john roberts this is "america reports" the headline speaking for themselves of the mainstream media calling the debate "a disaster for biden" as he stammered and stumbled through his answers while many democrats are in panic mode some coming to biden's defense. >> i rather have joe biden with a bad cold for 90 minutes then donald trump for america to live, to live, to lie because the stakes are that high. >> this is more than one debate performance this is the future of america. >> i have seen him do it and i know he can do it and he had a bad night last night. >> sandra: we did speak to karl rove last hour on this program. he says this may be hard for biden to bounce back from. >> it was an unmitigated disaster for joe biden last night. he just looked really, really old because guess what? he is. and i think it's going to be very, very difficult if not impossible to recover from the image we had last night. >> sandra: we have team coverage bill mcgurn will give us his analysis of the debate and what he thinks democrats should do now. >> we begin with the senior white house correspondent peter doocy live on the north lawn, peter howe was biden this afternoon different than biden last night? >> trace, he was very different and you notice there's a big difference when he is reading from the teleprompter then when he hit is loaded with some new one-liners and also loaded with a rarer admission there are some important things he is struggling with. >> i don't walk as easy as i used to come i don't speak as smoothly as i use two or debate as well as i use to but i know what i do know. i know how to tell the truth! >> that's as much detail as he went into for his performance last night which was at times halting and hard to follow. >> making sure we are able to make every single solitary person eligible for what i've been able to do with -- with the kofi cockburn, excuse me, with dealing with everything we have to do with look, -- if we finally beat medicare... >> the top democrat in house hakeem jeffries is saying until he come of the, articulate the way forward i will reserve comment about anything relative to where we are at this moment other than to say "i stand behind that ticket." for what it's worth, the ticket is not changing. >> this is a conversation that has been going on the past two and half years. it's not likely to happen. >> president biden is now off to new york where he will have an event with elton john before going to some closed-door fund-raisers in the hamptons. that's also a part in the last couple of minutes in "the washington post" that there will be an all campaign staff meeting. biden campaign staff meeting this afternoon. i reached out to some campaign staffers to ask what it's about and they are saying it is just something they do every friday. >> trace: peter doocy live on the north lawn thank you. >> sandra: this friday may be a little different, write trace? let's bring in film a current editorial board member former chief speechwriter for george w. bush. bill, great to have you. while how hakeem jeffries you heard him there may reserve comment following last night's debate the ladies of the view are not holding back. >> it kind of pains me to say this but i think president biden needs to step down and be replaced. >> blame it on a cold, blame it on his stuttering, blame and are of appropriation, whatever. but he did lose. >> maybe he needs to go. >> i've never seen joe biden like i saw him last night. it's worrisome. >> sandra: and all of us on a different joe biden ends up in raleigh on stage a few minutes ago so what is the democrat party going to do here, bill? >> well, look, the difference is at a stage event today as trace points out he has a teleprompter, more controlled environment. what the american people saw for 90 minutes was what special counsel robert hur saw. an old man with a poor memory that couldn't function. no wonder they don't want to release the tape of that interview. i find this a bit disingenuous people saying how shocked that joe biden is that bad, we had signs for a while. my newspaper did a story about the concerns inside the white house about this. the writers were savage fo. so i think it's restating the obvious what people are seeing every day going forward all biden's actions, public actions are going to be seen through the lens of last night. people saw him staring into space looking befuddled, losing his train of thought, i mean jill biden the best she can say is honey, you answered all the questions. i mean, it's really embarrassing. >> sandra: okay here are more reactions here is rfk jr. responding to the debate this morning. listen. >> i don't think presi president biden -- he does not seem to be the person making decisions in the white house i think. our government is being run by anonymous men in lanyards and it's scary. >> leave it to senator fetterman, bill, to tell everybody to just kind of chill out. he says this "i refused to join the democratic vultures on biden's shoulder after this debate, no one knows more than me that a rough debate is not the sum total of the person and their record" morning after a thermonuclear beat downs from my race from the debate and pulling geniuses like 538 predicted i would lose too and what happened? the only seat to flip and be won by historic margin of plus five chill the f out" should they chill out? >> it's not one night. one night highlighted 90 minutes he had trouble. two frames together show donald trump vigorous and coherent and joe biden old and befuddled. there is no getting around that. people saw sustained but there were plenty of signs before the various stumbles and so forth and they were all denied. democrats are in this predicament because they prefer to pretend and joe biden was fully there and they protected him by not having press conferences where he had to answer tough questions and limiting his public engagements. and they are paying a price for it now. the shame is very few members of the press really press the white house on that strategy. >> sandra: i'm in the warnings were there, the video was there for so many people to see and the sound of the president to only be labeled "cheap fakes" by the white house. bill, always good have you on, thank you so much. >> thank you, sandra. >> sandra: now this. >> jeffries, do think that president biden should step down after the debate performance last night? >> no. >> are you okay with how he did? >> trace: although some democrats on capitol hill are defending president biden others are calling to replace him as the presumptive democratic nominee and although it is not too late to perform at another candidate it may be hard to get biden to step aside. chad pergram lie for us hill to explain. chad? >> trace, good afternoon. it's not easy to do. the rules would mandate the president back away from the nomination before august 7th. that's when presidents officially lock in their delegates. even swing district democrats are sticking by mr. biden for now. >> he had a tough night, but i don't think we need to overreact to that. >> what is overreaction in your mind? people wanting him to remove himself? >> yes, that is a big leap. >> why? >> because it's an overreaction to 90 minutes. >> wasn't the dye kind of cast though? people didn't think he looked like he was up for the job and perception, reality, and politics? >> if you're asking me what other people are thinking i am unqualified for that. >> former house majority jim clyburn saved president biden's fortunes in the primary four years ago and he laughed when i asked of his services were needed to come to the rescue again, but no one is really sure what code or what happened if there is a movement to find a new candidate. >> if it were a ball game -- >> strike when you think he has three strikes? >> you always get three strikes and baseball i don't know. >> this isn't baseball this is politics. >> i'm saying i don't know what you do in this game. >> republicans said the debate highlighted their "i told you so" argument about the fitness of the president. house speaker mike johnson said forget the nomination, he is worried about the presidency right now. to go there are lot of people asking about the invoking of the 25th amendment right now because this is an alarming situation. unfortunately it's not the house that gets to determine that, it's the cabinet. the cabinet makes that decision. i would ask the cabinet members to search their hearts. >> a senior house democratic source told fox this situation is "not sustainable" and the source said those who are close to close to president biden did not serve him well. trace? >> trace: chad pergram live on capitol hill thank you. >> sandra: well, trace the major problems plaguing the ev industry with some customers saying they are ready to switch back to their gas-powered vehicles. >> trace: plus the supreme court dropping some major rulings one of them reducing the power of government agency. shannon bream joins us to break it down live next. >> i'm ecstatic. we finally have a level playing field. american citizens finally have the same rights in court as the united states government. and that is huge. frica? 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[audio logo] >> by the way of the border patrol endorsed my position i have changed in a way that now you are in a situation where there are 40% fewer people coming across the border illegally which is better than when he left office. >> sandra: i was president biden last night claiming the border patrol endorsed him. from national border patrol president joins us now is that true, brandon? welcome. >> no, that is actually laughable. there is no way in the world we possibly could've endorsed president biden. again we are not on partial we will do the best that we can for the citizens of the united states. that's what the national border council has always done best for our agents and the system of the united states. we would never even consider endorsing president biden because he unleashed complete and total chaos on this country. we have seen more crime in this country from illegal immigrants then we ever have before. we have seen more people crossing our borders illegally then are on the terrorist watch list than we ever sample for. have before. it's chaos and it's hurting the american people. would never endorse him in fact the national border counsel when i was there and i believe i can still say this fully supports president donald trump. >> trace: what do you make of that because this whole concept, forget his performance last night of the debates come up with aside, just this whole idea president biden is unwilling to accept any of the blame for what is happening at the border and what has happened there for the past three and a half years. >> you know, as a citizen, as a voter i have to look at things and break things down. am i better now than i was under donald trump? as far as my pocketbook goes, am i better at border security or national security? am i better at foreign policy? everything one of those answers are no. if you look at border security, something i'm an expert about, he is disastrous. he never takes responsibility for anything that he does. if he did right by the american people he would step down today and let someone else run in his place but he is not willing to do that. he has never been willing. even when he was a senator, he has never been willing to do what is best for the american people. >> sandra: i want to make sure i put this up on the screen because it was very quickly after president biden made that claim on the debate stage last night the border patrol union rebutted that claim saying it will never endorse joe biden. to be clear we never have, never will endorsed biden but of course we put a phone call to you, brandon judd, to set the record straight. our member thinking let's get him in tomorrow can we put up this map because i want you to weigh in on what is now almost all over the country places, cities, towns, where illegal migrants have been captured in the past two weeks and accused of committing heinous crimes including down there in houston. where little jocelyn nungaray the 12-year-old girl blew brutally assaulted and murdered and she was buried by her family yesterday. celebration of life was held there. this is everywhere now, brandon. >> absolutely. look, that tweet that got put up good for paul perez in the border patrol council he understands it's a great individual. he understands what is best for the american people. when you look at that map you just showed us, again, we have to have people willing to take responsibility. we also have to recognize that the border can be secured tomorrow if we would go back and look at the policies that were in place that president trump built, they were great policies. they allowed us to do more to secure the border than we ever have before in my 25 year border patrol career. if we actually take responsibility and take that map and break it down and say what can we do better? there are very simple solutions and we don't have to have american citizens die. we don't have to have them attacked by illegal immigrants. we also don't have to have them die because of fentanyl poisoning. >> sandra: i appreciate you coming on with us thank you very much. >> appreciate it. >> trace: the supreme court releasing free blockbuster opinions among one of the big ones what is known as the chevron decision which made it easier for the federal government to regulate areas of public live let's bring in shannon bream and fox news legal correspondent to break it all down, shannon, we were expecting big decisions maybe the presidential immunity case but instead we got some others this whole chevron case the fisherman here, i was reading this and kind of amazed that you had to have or pay $700 for fishermen a day to get eight at sea monitor permit? what is this decision doing for those people? >> yes, they said we can't bear the cost of doing this. what had happened is federal agencies said you have to have monitors and you have to have them on your boats but we have decided now you are going to pay for them. so they challenged that paired with the court said essentially was if congress passes something ambiguous come in the past it was that you had to defer to the federal agency interpretation of it. to their regulation and the court said today no, not so fast. it's possible for someone like this to challenge a federal regulation, go to court, and courts can actually say the federal regulation from this agency which is unelected bureaucrats, they got it wrong. so it's a seismic shift because federal regulation touches so much of our lives. >> yes. and i wonder, shannon, what do you think about the supreme court making it more difficult to convict january 6 the defendants of obstructing an official proceeding? chief justice roberts is the justice department interposition coding here criminalizes a broad swath of prosaic conduct exposing activists and lobbyists alike two decades in prison" your thoughts? >> there were hundreds of people january 6 defendants charged with this particular subset of this federal statute and essentially what it did was elevate a lot of these cases from misdemeanors to felonies by including it with some misdemeanor charges. it now means that hundreds of day six defendants including president trump will have an avenue to go try to fight those and say that part of my case needs to be thrown out. court said the way it was applied in those cases has been flawed. the defense did not agree including justice bayer which is an interesting mix to say essentially they did not get it right that the text of the statute does allow it to be used against jay six. attorney general garner says disagree with it disappointed but we will follow the ruling. >> trace: i know you will talk about this fox news sunday, shannon but do you think president biden after last night's debate has a way to rehabilitate his image? has a way to cover from that performance? >> yeah, you know the news cycle is so quick and memories are short and there are months to go before november 5th. here is another debate they have already agreed to in the interim and today the biden camp doubling down on that. he just has to get back there on the campaign trail and show people and give them confidence but for a lot of people that don't follow this as closely as us, millions of people tuned into that debate last night say this is officially the presidential race and if that is their lasting impression of president biden it's going to be tough, but what will be even bigger from this court on monday will be the presidential immunity decision which could re