deep divides over the u.s. role are growing. house republicans are in chaos. and the former president is preparing to take the stand. i'm going to discuss all of that plus new polling on the presidential race with the chair of the congressional republic -- per mila jayapal. plus, his two adult sons testified in new york last week, and donald trump himself will be under oath to new york tomorrow. the in-house law firm -- neal katyal is standing by for a full preview. and later, stacey abrams hasn't spoken extensively about the indictments in fulton county until now. i asked her about the strength of the case, the stakes for her home state, and yes, her own political future. okay, i hope you're sitting down for what i'm about to say. because you might find it a little disorienting. here it goes. we are exactly one year out from election day of 2024. one year, exactly. look, i know that for the better part of this decade, we've heard a lot of talk about certain elections being the most consequential of our lifetimes. but this one actually kind of feels like it is. a brand-new poll out today from the new york times shows donald trump leading president biden in five out of six swing states. it also shows biden leading trump by just one point, among young voters across the states. there's a while to go, but you still have to pay attention to these numbers, even at this point. so that's the state of the race. at least according to that one poll. and here are the stakes, according to joe biden. >> there comes a time, maybe every 16 generations, where the world changes. it changes in a very short time. >> are we at that time now? >> we are. and i think what happens in the next two or three years is going to determine what the world looks like for the next five or six decades. >> what is happening now and over the next few years, and what happens a year from today, both determine what the world looks like for decades. and what is happening now is a pretty high level of dysfunction in washington, and growing divisions across the country. a republican run house is barreling towards shutting down the government, and completely failing at the same time to support our allies overseas. they passed an aid package this week for israel, but not for ukraine, not for humanitarian aid in gaza, and not without -- cuts to the irs, which only adds to the deficit. they're not going to pay their taxes. in other words, the bill is dead on arrival in the senate. meaning any much needed aid will be delayed. and if speaker mike johnson's delay here wasn't bad enough, there is also republican senator tommy tuberville, who is continuing to block military promotions. that affects readiness in the middle east. even republicans are now fed up, as they should be, given the state of the crisis that we're watching overseas. on the ground in the region today, secretary of state tony blinken met with palestinian authority president abbas in the west bank, as the biden administration privately presses israeli officials to take additional steps to avoid civilian casualties in gaza. this is all happening as protests about u.s. support for israel break out across the country, with thousands gathering in d.c. this weekend. we're also seeing a sudden and disturbing surge in hate crimes amid the war in israel. antisemitic incidents have risen about 400% since the october 7th terrorist attack. and anti islamic hate crimes have risen almost 200%. cornell university actually canceled classes on friday, citing the extraordinary stress its campus and its students have been under, amid violent antisemitic threats. a pakistani american student at johns hopkins university just detailed being targeted, surrounded, and accosted by other students for being perceived as pro palestinian. that is just a taste of the divisions we've seen this week. if we look one week back, we saw deep divisions over gun legislation in the wake of the latest horrific mass shooting in lewiston, maine. if we look one week ahead, we will see stark divisions over abortion rights, as voters head to the polls in just two days in states including virginia, ohio, and pennsylvania. this is the kind of country the next president will have to deal with. they will be faced with big problems, both here and around the world. so the question one year from now is, who is best equipped to lead the country through turmoil? and between now and then, with so much division here, how do we grapple with the crisis there? joining me now is democratic congresswoman perjeta jayapal, she's chair of the professional caucus. thank you so much for joining me today. i want to start with your calls for the cease-fire in gaza, given the horrific impact on civilians we've all been watching. there have been a range of calls for a cease-fire's, and different versions of it. so i just want to ask, you when you call for a cease-fire, are you saying you want israel's military operation to end full stop and not restart? are there parameters of a military campaign that you would be comfortable with at any point? >> yes, and thanks for having me on. when i called for a cease-fire, that means a stoppage immediately of israel's bombing, and attacks, airstrikes, as well as the ground attacks. in order to make sure that we can get the hostages back, and that we can get humanitarian aid into gaza, and that we have a plan for how to move forward. i don't think the question is about whether we should allow israel to take out hamas, and whether all the international allies would be in favor of taking out hamas. that is absolutely true. the question is how to do that. and there is increasing toll, both with civilians in gaza, violence in the west bank, but also a question of whether you kill thousands and thousands of palestinians, and thousands of children, and you bomb refugee camps. even if you are taking out some hamas leaders, and it is unclear to me exactly who is being taken out. but let's say you are. the reality is, if you keep doing that, you will radicalize the population and another hamas will arise. most of the top leaders of hamas are not even in gaza, they're in other countries. and so i think we have to be clear that we need a cease-fire, and when i say cease-fire, i understand that you can't ever have a permanent cease-fire. that's not really realistic. but what you do is you call for a cease-fire. it is a negotiated settlement, which is why i say that you can at least have a cessation of hostilities immediately. but, i do think that we need to recognize that this crisis is not going to end, and hamas is not going to be taken out, unless there is a political situation that allows both israelis and palestinians to coexist with self determination next to each other. and that is something that can't happen while israel is continuing to bomb and kill innocent civilians in gaza. >> there is no question there needs to be a diplomatic solution here. congresswoman, it sounds like you are open to israel using military action if it's more targeted, if the hostages are out, if there's assistance in. you're not determining that, but you're open to a resumption of that. i just want to ask you, speaker nancy pelosi says a cease-fire is a gift to hamas. hillary clinton said the same thing, and that people demanding a cease-fire don't understand hamas. it sounds like you're not agreeing with that. what would you say about their views? >> i just don't agree with that, and i think that if you look at the history of how these conflicts have happened, i'm not talking about progressives who have said this. i'm talking about national security experts, experts on terrorism, who have written extensively about instances where countries have gone in, including israel, into lebanon, including the united states going into iraq. and what happens when you do not -- when you essentially go in without a plan for how you move forward. you might succeed, jen, in the immediate short term. you may be able to declare victory of taking out one leader or another. you do not solve the problem. and i think this is very important, and i also think it's important to recognize that the united states is increasingly isolated by saying that we are not ready to call for a cease-fire. that we are standing with israel, no matter what. that allows impunity for israel to continue to do what it has done and is doing to palestinians. killing children -- jen, i just have to say. one palestinian child is being murdered every ten minutes at the rate of killings that is happening now. nobody has forgotten what hamas has done to israel on october 7th. i have condemned that. it is horrific, it is a terrorist act, israel absolutely should, and the allies, including the united states, should go after hamas. should try to end and take out hamas, and find other solutions. but this is not the way to do it. and the united states is the largest backer of military aid to israel the idea that we cannot do anything about what israel is doing, i do not think is -- it's just not credible. the reality is that if israel continues to go in that direction, i think taxpayers, who were paying for that, deserve to be able to know that the united states is holding israel accountable to what president biden has rightly said in calling for israel to follow international humanitarian law. they are not doing that right now, john. >> congresswoman, i think this is such a complicated, heartbreaking, difficult issue. which is why it's so important to discuss it with people like you. i did want to ask you, because there's a lot of impacts here at home, as we're seeing. a friend of yours, congressman receded tlaib, released a video on friday about the war. in case our viewers haven't, i want to play a piece of it. >> we will remember in 2024. >> now, you've been very outspoken about the need for a cease-fire, about the horrors we've talked about, quite a bit in gaza as well. she is accusing president biden as supporting what she described as the genocide of palestinians in gaza. do you agree with that? >> this is heartbreaking. rashida is the only palestinian american woman in the united states congress. she has a grandmother who lives in israel, in the west bank. and the reality is that she is bringing her lived experience to bear. i don't think we can say we want diversity of views, but then not listen to what those views are. i think genocide is a very, very complicated term. i believe that we have to do everything we can to elect joe biden president. you know that i have been an extremely strong supporter of president biden on the domestic front. and i think that it's important that we recognize, though, that the reality, and i've said this to the white house privately for many weeks and then recently publicly, because i think it is important to recognize. that we have a very divided country, as you well know. you have said the polls really don't reflect where people are. i agree with you. but i will tell you this is the first time, jen, that i have felt like the 2024 election is in great trouble for the president. and for our democratic control, which is essential to moving forward. because these young people, muslim americans, arab americans, but also young people, see this conflict as a moral conflict. a moral crisis. and they are not going to be brought back to the table easily, with if we do not address this. >> no doubt, congresswoman. i think we are seeing a generational response to what's happening overseas. language also matters, and genocide is defined as the intentional destruction of an entire ethnic or religious group, and a lot of people do listen to statements made by members of congress. so i just want to make clear, do you agree with the description of this as genocide, and the president's role in that? >> i am not willing to say that yet. but i will just tell you that rashida is not the first person to say this. there are credible reports from agencies across the world and the united nations has said we are hurtling towards the genocide of palestinians. that is not an isolated view. but i think it is important for us to focus on what is actually here at the core, which is over 9000 -- i think it's somewhere near 9300 palestinians have been killed. over 3000 children, 6600 palestinian children killed. and i think that we are our 2.3 million palestinians going to go? we are they going to go? the attacks on a refugee camp, we're talking about half a mile for this refugee camp. that is the density of how many people live in that area. when you release bombs that are 2000 pound bombs in a dense area, which is something that the united states has signed on and said we will not do that, but israel has not said that. that is what israel did in the jabalia refugee camp. 2000 pound bombs, jen. and so the horrors are terrible. i think that there are families of hostages, israeli hostages, who have gone to the icc and said what hamas did is also a war crime, and qualifies as genocide. and i think we have to make sure that we are taking into account all of the innocent civilians, israeli and palestinian. but at the end of the day, international humanitarian law exists because we have learned from our past, that you cannot solve these problems by targeting innocent civilians. and the united states has to be very, very clear about this. >> congresswoman primala jayapal, thank you for joining me, for all of your clarity, and for speaking out about these issues. coming up next, donald trump is set to testify in his own fraud trial in new york city. -- what they're expecting to see. and later, my wide-ranging interview with stacey abrams. i'll ask her about the fulton county indictments, whether trump should serve time in prison if he's convicted, ande what she thinks the political landscape looks like one year out from election day. we're back, after a quick break. k break. he hits his mark —center stage—and is crushed by a baby grand piano. you're replacing me? 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