called the disabled veteran's national foundation, dvnf. they have raised nearly 66 mi$5 million in six years. not a -- >> you're the ones from cnn? >> reporter: meet priscilla, president of the disabled veterans national foundation. we found that a small vfw office in baton rouge, louisiana. >> this is the veterans of foreign wars and i really didn't think you would do something like that and we have agreed to talk to you. >> you've raised $5 million over the last three years and none of the money has gone to any veterans. >> c nrkcnn has been trying for years trying to -- promises of written responses and now a slammed door. >> veterans, ma'am? >> but no answer. >> if you had raised $56 million over three years and done it legitimately and actually had something to show for it and given that money to veterans, you would think you would want to explain yourself, you would think you would want to show your books and show all the veterans that you have helped. they're not doing that. this group does send stuff to veteran's group, but it's stuff that veterans groups say they don't need and don't want. coconut m and ms. they sent 11,000 of these bags of m&ms. 2,600 bags of cough drops, 2,200 little bottles of sanitizer lotion. because that's what they think veterans need, probably not, that's just stuff they were given for free. veteran's groups have been given donations of shoes and -- so where did the $56 million that people donated to dvnf actually go? >> as far as we can tell, up to the tenth floor of this manhattan office building to a company called quradrega arts, a company that specializes in fundraising. and from we can tell, they know a lot about fundraising for itself. >> so this company is basically paid to build mailing groups for companies like dvnf. the subsidiaries have more than 500 charities on their client roof. let's just be clear here, the money trail leads from unsuspecting wallets of concerned people like you, who donate money to the dvmf, who donate money to these charities. but it's the charity that's now being investigated because of its tax exempt status, because all of us are giving them a tax break for the good work they're supposed to be doing. dvnf has a responsibility to show it's genuinely helping veterans and playing by the rules. senator backus joins us now, we should point out that this is a bipartisan effort, also with us tonight drew griffin because there's a lot more to the story. senator, what is your goal with this investigation? >> i don't want retired schoolteachers or any other good americans to be duped by fraudulent organizations thinking it's going to go to disabled vets when it's not at all, it's going to pad the pockets of some scam artist. >> what concerns you most about this disabled national veteran's foundation? >> it sounds like it's a front, i don't think it's legit, it takes about $56 million from ordinary good americans who want to help veterans, but they don't give any of the money to the veterans and at this point don't give any money to disabled veterans. it's an outrage, frankly. >> had you heard about the dvnf before? >> we asked a lot of questions that organizations are not answering, terrible organizations that we give them an f so we spend more time looking at them. >> it seems to me all the money is being funneled to this organization, quadrega, which basically organizations use to boost their mailing list, does that make sense to you and will that be part of the investigation as well? >> clearly or frankly, i smell a rat there. i have a hunch that the mail order is using the veteran's organization as a front for themselves so they get the contributions from a good well meaning goal, americans think we're helping disabled vets when in fact the money is going to this other outfit, quadreka, a fundraising operation and none of the money's going to disabled vet. i have a hunch there's other fraud lent scam organizations like this as well and we're going to do what we can to get to the bottom of it. >> drew griffin, you talked to another organization, and they at least offcamera acknowledged that they were kind of trapped into this contract with this group? >> reporter: yeah, they were trapped. well, i'm saying that, they aren't saying that, they're in a long-term contract for six years that lasts until 2014. the national veteran's foundation which took in $22 million or $20 million and gave 18 of it back to quadreka and its subsidiary brook mill. they say they're not happy with how all this worked out and have served ties with them and are now trying to break their contract. >> it seems to be kind of a shell game t charity, dvnf, they take credit for enormous amounts of money on their tax returns, donations that are basically useless. and they claim it all as goods in kind, so it will look good to the irs, do you think the irs needs to take a hard look at what the group actually does for veterans? >> no question, there's some kind of a shell game, some kind of a scam going on here, i don't know who's getting the money, it's certainly not disabled vets who are getting the money, and they have launched other organizations like this, the scam might be partly the disabled veteran foundation, they're ripping people off. the scam could also be this other outfit that's getting a lot of money that's at the receiving end of it. >> you've been struggling for years to just get basic answers from dvnf and also this quadreka? >> for two years, we have phone calls that are not returned, we even had a door slammeded, we even went out to sacramento last week trying to find the person who runs this dvnf, she was supposed to be at a concert and cancelled at the last minute. we want to ask the same questions that the senator is asking and that you're asking, how can americans who are so generous, be pouring so much money and giving from their hearts to our disabled veterans, right now coming back from the war, thinking the money is going to do good, it's doing no good and it's going all the way to the fund raiser. where is the money? from the senator and you as i recall, how do you sleep at night? >> senator, i'm sure, i know that's not one of the questions you asked to the dvnf, how did these people who are raising money on the backs of disabled veterans and not giving it to the veterans, i don't understand how they sleep at night. >> well, there are a lot of unfortunate bad apples. most charitable organizations do very good work and this country would not exist if not for all the good organizations. this is one that frankly realistics me off personally, because we in montana have the highest signed up in the wars and afghanistan and iraq, per capita, we're patriotic, and a lot of men and women when they come home, they're disabled, and they're wounded, it makes me angry, frankly that one outfit wants to take advantage of vulnerable people for their own benefit. >> and it makes veterans gups harder to raise money. >> anderson, thank you for your good work, because you spotlighted this and that's good work. >> it's drew griffin that's done it all. so i appreciate it senator. >> one final note, we talked about drew's many unsuccessful attempts to get will coe which is to talk about the charity that she runs. the disabled veteran's national association has supplied veterans with supplies that have made a difference in their lives. let me just point out for the record, we have given them multiple opportunities to try to set the record straight, in their words. again, we invite her at any point to talk to drew, come on this show, we'll talk to them, to say that, you know, this is misleading, and that they're going to set the record straight, we have been waiting for two years to try to get them to set the record straight. it's ridiculous. let us know what you think, we're facebook, follow us on twitter@anderson o twitter@andersoncooper. 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>> how did he do when he was the highest executive state, massachusetts. under his leader shib, and economic reforms the massachusetts unemployment went from 5.6% to 4.7% and the state had a positive record of nearly 50,000 new jobs created. that is absolutely true, however northeastern university economist tells the "washington post," the jobless rate fell because so many people left the workforce and in fairness, the same thing is happening to president obama now, governor romney is blaming the president for that and taking credit for the same thing when he was governor of massachusetts. governor romney inherited hard economic times in massachusetts hen he started office. but they were hard economic times nationwide and while there was some recovery during his time in office, as he pointed out, there was recovery nationwide. the job market in massachusetts was slower to recover than all but three other states, 47th nationally in job creation. one of those other states as james carville pointed out last night. he couldn't enact all the programs he wanted, which is also true. when he took office, the state ranked 37th in job creation, went from number 37 to 47. i'm joined by chief capitol hill analyst gloria borger. does it surprise you at this point that the romney campaign is focusing more on bain capital than romney's massachusetts record? >> we're starting to hear a little bit of it now. they're going to talk about those job creation numbers. but the reason they decided to do bain capital first, is this is the moment when you're trying to find your opponent. they have looked at the polls, they find mitt romney answers the question best as to who's better to -- bain capital for them, or so they think, allows them to make a values argument against mitt romney, to say, you know what? this man doesn't have the values to be president because he's really not a job creator, like he's telling you, actually is a job killer. and so they'll move on from this to the massachusetts story, you can be sure that will be coming up next. >> but kand, all of mitt romney's republican challengers during the primary, they used the massachusetts argument, tried to use it against mitt romney, it apparently didn't seem to work with voters. >> this is the why the struggle for who gets to define you takes so long. we don't know yet how the general public, that was a republican group, and in fact got quite upset with some of romney's opponents for going after bain and talking the vulture language that he was a corporate raider, et cetera, et cetera, did not sit well with that particular group. we don't know yet how it will sit in particular with the six, 7, 8, 9% of swing voters that will probably end up deciding this race. i think it matters where they live, i think it matters in what areas they think this economy is weak. and it also matters, anderson, not just what mitt romney has done or what barack obama has done. but who they think actually might be able to take the country into the future. so they're not just selling their past records, they're selling kind of that, you know, to bring it back up again, they're selling hope. and whoever can do that best and say i'm your guy ends up winning. >> clearly the obama campaign wants to make this not a -- not on his economic reported, but a referendum on a choice between these two candidates. >> they definitely want to make it a choice and that's why they're talking about bain capital and the president the other day saying, look, mitt romney may have some business experience, but it's not the kind of experience you would need as president. but in the end, anderson, when you have an incumbent president, he's got a record that he's got to define. and if the american public doesn't think you've done a good job. they're not going to rehire you. that's why what worries the obama campaign right now, are some of these economic numbers which show there was one today in the wall street journal nbc poll that showed that over 60% of the american public doesn't believe their childrens' lives are going to be better than their lives. that's a very difficult number if you're sitting there in chicago running the obama campaign. >> it is difficult, candy, to overcome. and the flip side is if there is an upward trend going into the fall, then romney has to come up with another plan b. >> i think his plan b is out there, which is listen, we're all happy that the economy is getting better. because in fact they have already had to deal with it. there are signs that the economy is better, it's clearly better than when obama took office. the question is they will posit it from camp romney is, look how much money we spent to get it to this point. he's going about this the wrong way, he drove us into debt to the tune of almost $2 billion and he's still headed in the wrong direction. the plan b is already kind of out there right now, it's about how good is the economy. but it's also going to be how much did it cost to get us here which everybody agrees is not far enough. >> mitt romney would say if i had been president, we would have gotten there faster. coming up, the outrage over a doctor in pakistan who helped the cia, helped america track down osama bin laden, getting a 33-year sentence in pakistan for treason. details ahead. wow. yeah, right ? 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>> well, i mean first, you know, there's lots we don't know, anderson, because it remains heavily classified. we don't know whether or not the cia had planned to exfiltrate him and was unsuccessful or whether he didn't want to go. because oftentimes with extended families, an asset doesn't want to leave. so we don't know why he remained after the raid. this tribal court is not anything anybody -- any american would associate with due process. as you said, he couldn't defend himself. it was very limited in terms of the process that was wrapped around this. what hasn't happened yet is there's an ongoing federal investigation in pakistan where they're also looking at treason charges, the federal case, when that comes to a conclusion, if he's charged with treason, he could face the death penalty. >> is it possible that the federal court could overturn the tribal court in pakistan? >> our understanding from pakistani legal experts is that the doctor could appeal into this federal system and, depending on who you talk to, it sounds as though he would have a pretty good chance of getting it overturned. but there's high stakes diplomacy going on, we know that senator clinton intervened on his past. mark dempsey, leon panetta- >> in a back room, could this deal with made? >> the cia contractor who was held for an extended period of time and ultimately he got out because there was money paid to the family of the victim, so, yes, there are -- what's most important is, both sides have to be careful about how striden their public statements are. because of course there are these back room negotiations going on, so they have to give -- >> the more they yell about it outside, the easier the deal becomes. >> the relationship between pakistan and the u.s. are at a really, really bad point. >> that's right. so basically, what the pakistanis are looking for out of the free negotiation, is some leverage. what they want is some commitment from the united states, in terms of going on a go-forward basis, that the -- without working those assets jointly. >> interesting. fran, appreciate it. and since secret service mark sullivan apologized for the scandal that embarrassed his agency. sullivan said the agents involved in the incident at a columbia hotel were, quote, reckless. he insisted it was a one-time event, but lawmakers were skeptical. more than 150 girls and three teachers were poisoned at an afghan school with some sort of spray. four girls are still hospitalized. the taliban has been blamed for this latest attack. tests are underway to determine what poison was used. check your fridge, the baby spinach and private collections organic baby spinach are being recalled because of possible salmonella contamination. both of those have a best by date of may 25. and an uninvited guest attended in couple's wedding. look at that tornado behind them. >> that's crazy. >> not only is it crazy, the bride's saying, she couldn't have asked for better pictures. >> charlie worely, the north carolina pastor who laid out a detailed plan from his pulpit to eliminate all gays and lesbians by locking them