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right now it is down by 34 points. go live to the new york stock exchange in just a few minutes. 30 years, 30 million funerals. now there is new hope. it is world aids day. everyone from u.s. presidents to rock super stars, they are talking about the ongoing fight to end this epidemic. >> make no mistake, we are going to win this fight. the fight's not over, not by a long shot. the rate of new infections may be going down elsewhere, but it's not going down here in america. the infection rate here has been holding steady for over a decade. >> so what is next for the battle against aids? we'll take a look at the latest medical advancements. i'm going to talk to bono about the possibility of a generation without aids within three years. that interview's coming up in the next hour of newsroom. the lawyer for jerry sandusky, the former penn state defensive coach says the time may come when his client has to think about a plea deal. that's right, the lawyer says that a plea could happen if more people come forward claiming that sandusky molested them. he told cnn contributor sarah began number that such a scenario could make this case an uphill battle. >> reporter: what is the point where you say should we talk about a plea deal? are you having those conversations? >> no, we haven't. as a matter of fact you know from your experience, sarah, that people who maintain their innocence sometimes plead guilty because of the overwhelming evidence against them. there are many people who have gone to trial who were convicted of very serious crimes, including homicides, and executed and it later turned out that they were innocent. there's a lot of reasons why people decide to do certain things, but at this point jerry has maintained his innocence in regard to the allegations he knows about. penn state students are voicing their concerns about the scandal that has engulfed the campus. they got to ask questions at a town hall last night with the university's leaders. >> sandusky was part of the penn state family. we all are, and i feel shame. >> jerry sandusky's preliminary hearing is set for december 13th. at least one of the alleged victims will have to testify. a month before american troops pull out of iraq they're being honored for their service and sacrifices over the last 8.5 years. vice president joe biden and iraqi prime minister paid tribute to troops from both countries at a ceremony in baghdad. it took place at saddam hussein's palace. 11,000 american troops are still in iraq. most will be gone by the end of the year. in afghanistan, an update on a case that has sparked an international outcry, outrage if you will. president karzai says a woman in prison for being raped can go home. or she can stay in prison for her safety. she was sentenced for 12 years for adultry after she report that had a relative raped her. she is now raising her daughter behind bars. afghanistan's justice minister is supposed to meet with the woman and her attacker to find out if she'll agree to marry him. evangelist billy graham is in a hospital in north carolina. doctors are checking him for signs of pneumonia. he was admitted yesterday. graham turned 93 last month. he has counselled presidents from harry truman to barak obama. lots of kids in san francisco. they're going to open up the mcdonald's happy meals today. what will happen? they might not be all that happy. starting today the city is banning toys in the kids' meals that don't meet certain nutritional guidelines. mcdonald's has now found a loophole. parents can ask for a toy to be included for a dime. we'll see how that goes. you might not think that the european debt crisis has much to do with your finances, but it actually affects whether american companies have money to hire you, whether your small business can get a loan, and what happens with the stock market and your retirement investments. yesterday's huge rally, we're following the latest developments in europe. i want to bring in richard quest and alison kosik. richard, start with you. yesterday, explain this. we saw the markets soar after the fed and central banks in europe acted together to keep this money flowing. some folks are saying it's just a band aid. what are the long-term solutions? >> don't think of it as a band aid. think of it more as being oil and grease to lubricate the wheels and the sprockets and spokes. the u.s. had some very good employment numbers yesterday. today there are extremely good manufacturing numbers, construction numbers. alison will go through those in a moment. look, you and i have it right this time. i said it an inch thick, a mile wide, it's evaporated already. the reason is because nothing has fundamentally changed, at least on this side of the atlantic. until we get to december 9th, next week, nine days before they have to decide what they're going to do about the euro, suzanne. >> so what do we know about the future of the euro? nothing yet? >> we know that they have to decide how they are going to bring in those countries like italy, greece, those that are in trouble, those that have been bailed out already. we know they have to decide will they let the ecb, european equivalent of the fed, will they let it become much more aggressive in dealing with this problem. we know they have to start rebuilding the house. unification. they have to make a united europe for economies. that is the agenda. i've rattled it off in 40 seconds. we might as well be on the moon because some of the parties are so far apart on the differences in political troubles are so deep that i promise you, fasten your seat belts for the next nine days. this is going to get bumpy. >> we'll fasten our seat belts. go to alison next. we saw the stocks, they shot up 4% across the board yesterday? >> yes. >> after some of the rallies there are some big falls as well. what is happening today? >> exactly. you make a good point there, suzanne. it's good that we're not seeing a selloff today. the dow down only about 25 points. a lot of people down here at the new york stock exchange were all joking around, all these gains from yesterday will be gone tomorrow. clearly we're not seeing all those gains gone because that is something that you often see after a huge run up in stocks where the dow rose almost 500 points. what it shows is wall street likes the support that the central banks are offering and what it shows is that there's more confidence that the plan could actually work in the short term. as richard talked about, this crisis in europe, it's far from over. in fact, we're getting more signs that it's spreading. hitting china. manufacturing in china hit a 2.5 year low. europe's problems hitting china because it's one of china's biggest trading partners. at this point wall street still kind of clinging to that relief rally. we're seeing losses today on the hopes that this will buy europe some time to get its house in order. >> alison, richard, thank you. here's a rundown of stories we're covering. american troops are packing up, paying tribute in iraq. the possibility of a plea deal in the scandal surrounding penn state. a sheriff of the year ends up in the slammer. awkward, get this, his name is on the jail. china is building a tunnel so long it would stretch from miami to seattle. nyquil: you know i relieve coughs, sneezing, fevers? 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i know this is somewhat of a tribute, but how confident are they that once american troops leave iraq that there will be stability? that they'll be able to take care of their own security and move forward for a democratic government? >> reporter: there is a great deal of concern. if you talk to people on the street, that is probably the number one fear that they have, that the united states, of course, many are happy to see the occupying force, u.s. presence off the streets, but they do worry that without that security of having the u.s. there as a moderator here, there could be problems. with the revival of sectarian violence, with the revival of ethnic divides that exist in this country, and some infiltration coming from iran. so that is the real concern, that when you talk to people, they fear that without the united states here millitarlly, you could begin to see this nation come unglued. that's why again in the speeches that were made, it was talking about this is a great day for all iraqis, regardless of what faith or ethnicity. >> we will pay close attention and watch what happens in iraq once those american troops leave. thank you very much. time to go cross-country. want you to watch closely. a michigan state cheerleader takes a hard tumble. hits the floor with her face. the accident happened during last night's game against florida state. reports say that doctors have ruled out any serious head or neck injuries. now the cheerleader is 20-year-old junior taylor young. she is expected to leave the hospital today. former colorado law man, 2001 national sheriff of the year, right, ironically jailed today accused of trading meth for sex. he was the sheriff until 2002. he was locked up at the jail that bears his name. santa ana winds, howling like a hurricane. whipping across southern california today. one gust hit 97 miles an hour. take a look at those pictures. winds brought down trees, cut power to parts of l.a. international airport for a time. air traffic controllers had to divert flights to other airports. all right. what would bring three presidents and a rock star together? 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a swap is when the fed provides dollars to a foreign central bank and then gets foreign currency in return. those swaps and arrangements like them are the lifeblood of short-term operations for banks. why now? because those swaps between the banks were getting more expensive. a credit freeze was looking more and more likely. since may the cost for european banks to borrow dollars from our european banks has been skyrocketing. it's been more expensive to get access to dollar funding. it's now at levels since late 2008. it's causing concerns in global markets. we remember after lehman brothers collapsed. a credit freeze that closed factories, killed business and wiped out millions of jobs around the world. so the federal reserve here in the u.s., the central banks of england, japan, switzerland and canada, they want to keep the money flowing so that households can borrow, companies can pay their bills, and you can get paid at work. another player in here in a separate move was china. china loosened bank rules there to keep money flowing as well at about the same time the ecb, fed, all the central banks around the world announced their move. people are wondering if this is a worldwide coordinated effort to keep europe afloat. this is good news. a positive action in a still pretty negative and dangerous situation in the credit markets. the underlying problems are still there, make no mistake. those problems are an escalating debt crisis in europe. that threatens to tear apart the eurozone. europe is still on the brink. there's pretty much very little time to fix it before borrowing costs rise more, the credit markets potentially lock up. then you'd have stock markets buckling and companies couldn't get funding to do anything. so the world economy certainly been a big story this year. 2011 has been a year of nonstop breaking news. cnn has covered all of it. go to cnn.com/topstories to cast your vote for the top ten stories of 2011. then join us on december 30th. find out whether your picks made the final cut. we'll unveil the top ten stories of the year. not just a rock star. he's an activist leading a fight against aids. i'll talk to bono live about his one campaign and what it's going to take to make hiv/aids history. ♪ i spend long hours with her checking her heart rate, administering h medication, and just making her comfortable. one night britta told me about a tradition in denmark, "when a person dies," she said, "someone must open the window so the soul can depart." i smiled and squeezed her hand. 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[ male announcer ] progresso. you gotta taste this soup. here's a look at what's ahead on the rundown. next, three presidents and one of the biggest rock stars in the world. u2's bono. i'm going to be talking to bono. then the possibility of a plea deal in the scandal surrounding penn state. later, a new worry for the pentagon. tunnels, very long secret tunnels. three decades ago it was a death sentence, but now there is new hope and a new mission to create an aids free generation by the year 2015. that is the goal of bono and his one campaign. they are pushing that on world aids day. elizabeth cohen is joining us to talk about the fight against aids. a lot of people think, what's new here. we know all there is to know about this disease. are there new treatments? are there new ways of actually detecting this disease? >> what's interesting and actually perhaps a bit sad, too, is that there aren't new ways. the old ways, old 1996 ways, the drugs, actually work very well. the problem is is that they have not controlled hiv as much as we had hoped back in 1996 when the drugs came out. there was this great hope we were going to see the beginning of the end of hiv. >> sure. >> there was a report out from the cdc that says we're not seeing that as we would hope, even in this country where you'd think we have plenty of resources. >> what does that mean? this aids-free generation in three years, what are they talking bg? what kind of goal is that. >> we heard bono talking about that at that conference that was moderated by my friend sanjay gupta. what he's saying is let's try to see the beginning of the end of aids in 2015. let's start by stopping maternal to child transmission of hiv. suzanne, i've talked to so many public health folks who are so frustrated by. this we know how to stop hiv from being transmitted from a mother to her baby when she's pregnant. what that means, that the mom needs to go on these drugs. after the baby is born, she should not breast feed. it hasn't stopped because we don't have enough access to these drugs. there aren't enough moms with enough access. also these breast feeding messages have not gotten out. >> that's a very ambitious goal when you think about it, to try to accomplish that in three years. >> it is an ambitious goal, but if you start there, if you start with let's focus in on those moms, make sure that those moms are taking these drugs and make sure that they don't breast feed, that's a great start. then would you have a generation of kids born without hiv. then you need to make sure they don't contract hiv as they get older. >> we know this is a worldwide problem. give us a sense in the united states, what is the threat of aids, hiv now. >> 15 years ago the hope was it wouldn't be much of a threat, that people would take the drugs and be fine. the problem is is that we don't have hiv under control in this country. i'll show you some numbers that explain why not, suzanne. for every 100 people living with hiv in this country, only 80 are aware of their infection. 20 don't even know that they have hiv. then take that 80 number, only 62 out of 80 are linked to hiv care. only 41 are staying in hiv care. suzanne, you see where i'm heading. out of those 41 who are getting good hiv care, only 36 are getting the antiretroviral therapy, perhaps because of cost. of those 36, only 28 have a low amount. only 28 control the amount of virus in the body. that's important for the person with hiv, but if you have a high amount of virus in your body, much bigger likelihood of transmission. >> talk about the generation gap here. 20 years ago all of us knew somebody practically that knew somebody who was hiv positive, had aids. do young people now, do they understand? do they still understand the threat today? >> i don't think they do. if i use myself as an example, i was in college in the mid '80s. i had a cousin who passed away from aids. a lot of people had personal experiences. in college people were nervous. people talked about getting tested for hiv. they talked about using condoms. young people i talk to today, it's not in the forefront of their minds. they don't have a cousin who died of hiv, they don't have friends who died. they don't think of it as much. they are probably not using condoms as much and they're not getting tested. suzanne, that testing part is so crucial. if you don't know that you have hiv, you can't protect yourself and you can't protect others. >> such say good message. obviously this is such an important day. it's a message have you to carry out every single day. >> right. those of us in the mid 40s or older, we think everyone knows about hiv, practice safe sex. doesn't seem to be true. we're waiting now to hear from former president bill clinton. he'll be speaking on world aids day. also scheduled to speak, former president george w. bush. president obama, star studded list of celebrities. the address from clinton is scheduled to begin in 15 minutes or so. three decades, 30 million funerals. that's what we're talking about here. aids has been a worldwide crisis. it has hit poor countries the hardest. here's a look at some of the global impact. robin reports from south africa. >> her daughter is sick with hiv. she will need to begin treatment. >> reporter: it shook me, she tells us. i looked at my daughter. she's so young. she's still too young. here nearly every 2 one of the two million people are infected. the woman brought her daughter here because it was the closest clinic to the village. it was a 1.5 hour trip. >> reporter: here in china a country of 1.3 billion people, there are 780,000 cases of aids. the proportion is small, but the number is rising. some of the most vulnerable, people m a group that has been considered immune to the disease, the elderly. because of medical advances, people here have been living longer and staying sexually active. the abundance of cheap commercial sex at an average price of about $5 a visit and the lack of education about safe sex among the older generation has put senior citizens here at risk. in fact, 15% of all new cases are of people 50 or older. the government says that it's now targeting the elderly in its public awareness campaigns, but activists say that health officials need to do more. they say older patients face greater discrimination because senior citizens are seen as the most respected members of chinese society. the stigma of aids brings great shame upon the family. u2's bono is not just a rock star. 's one of the best known human any tarns and the face of the one campaign. grassroots organization that's been fighting hiv/aids for almost a decade. >> 2.5 million people will die next year. they will die of aids next year because they don't have the medicines that we take for granted in the west. this is a war. these are our casualties. if these people were not african, if they were not black do you think we would let them die? no. >> you're looking at live pictures of bono. i'm going to be speaking to him in the next hour of "cnn newsroom." penn state students goat air the concerns about the child sex abuse scandal. jerry sandusky's lawyer is floating the possibility now of a plea deal. talk to a legal expert about that. neutrogena® t/gel shampoo defeats dandruff after just one use. t/gel shampoo. it works. neutrogena®. the progresso chicken noodle you made is so good. it's got tender white meat chicken. the way i always made it for you. one more thing.... those pj's you like, i bought you five new pairs. love you. did you see the hockey game last night? 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>> he is. we've just got this in our hand. it is from joe amendola. he's saying in no way did he say during an interview yesterday that he is considering a plea deal. he says that a question was posed to him. that's exactly what happened. a question was posed to him in regard to if there are more and more alleged victims that keep coming forward, would you consider a plea deal? would you go in that direction? the response was really that people do things for different reasons. sometimes people who are very, very innocent will plead guilty or accept a plea deal if it is in the best interests of the situation. obviously, though, he left the door open in that interview about a plea deal, and he is the one that even said the words yesterday, if we would plead guilty. those words did come out of joe amendola's mouth. >> tell us a little bit about the boy who is now a young man known as victim number two that the attorney has talked about in the grand jury report. >> reporter: this is extremely interesting because there are eight alleged victims in the grand jury report. joe amendola yesterday during this interview really cited that half of them have a continuing relationship with jerry sandusky. there is a friendship. there's a good relationship. there is communication. alleged victim number two was never a victim of sexual molestation at the hands of jerry sandusky. >> the bottom line remains that jerry has always maintained his innocence from the outset of the first allegations. he continues to maintain his innocence. now, again, what happens with any additional charges which may be filed, as of yet haven't, remains to be seen. >> you're looking at maybe a dozen, maybe more. what is the point where you say maybe we should talk about a plea deal? are you already having those conversations with the ag's office? >> no, we haven't. as a matter of fact, from your experience you know, sarah, that people who maintain their innocence sometimes plead guilty because of the overwhelming evidence against them. there have been many people who have gone to trial who are convicted of very serious crimes such as homicides and it turns out later that they were innocent. there's a lot of reasons people decide to do things. at this point jerry has maintained his innocence in regard to the allegations he knows about. >> reporter: let's look at the other side of this in regard to jerry sandusky being friends. several of the alleged victims going out to dinner with he and his wife this summer. in the grand jury presentment, document, one of the documents cites that a day before he was to testify before the grand jury, that there were phone calls to him from jerry sandusky and his wife. also, suzanne, with this brand new civil suit, the very first civil suit that's been filed, it is alleged in that that jerry sandusky threatened alleged victim john doe a by saying if you ever tell anyone what is happening, i will harm your family. >> wow. jean, we know the first civil lawsuit against penn state and sandusky has been filed. what do we know from the paperwork? >> the filing is extensive. it's 26 pages long. the first civil suit. it alleges that this young man, now 29 years old, was molested more than 100 times during a four-year period, 1992 to 1996. that would be chronologically the oldest allegations of sexual molestation at the hands of jerry sandusky. there are eight counts altogether. some we would expect, negligence, intentional infliction of emotional distress. count number 8 is the most interesting i think. civil conspiracy to endanger children. that is going toward officials at penn state university and the second mile organization. >> jean, thank you. excellent reporting. penn state's leadership is telling students they're not going to be defined by the scandal. students were able to air their concern at a forum. >> my concern here is how do you define integrity when you still have a coach who's on board who clearly lied with his grand jury presentment and what he has recently said? >> these horrific allegations and the events surrounding them do not define you. remember that. they do not define you. i would hope and i would submit to you that we should emerge from this more compassionate. >> it's very important that we learn to question authority and in many cases being here and being part of this experience might actually make you a better human being. >> penn state administrators say employer attendance at the school's job fairs show that there is no sign of a downward trend. the presidents and the rock star, bono from u2 is pushing the world's power brokers to take action against aids and hiv. ♪ progresso. it fits! fantastic! 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>> we'll take a break. we'll be right back. >> reporter: even that didn't help brian williams. in his case workers changing ventilation filters in the new studio triggered the alarm but sometimes it is the real thing. >> florida became the first state to allow citizens -- excuse me we're having some technical problems in the studio. let me try to get through this while we figure out what to do. >> we have to go to a break, guys. we have a fire in the studio. >> reporter: abandon set. the popped light was shooting sparks. >> the awar for best impersonation of a fire alarm goes to -- calling jeff smith of fox news. >> we've never had a fire here. but they go off. in a minute some dude from the 50th floor will come on and go, hello, this is the fire ward, nothing's happened. there's a lady stuck in the toilet on the 31st floor. >> reporter: the prize for the most zen reaction goes to stevie wonder. >> i'm trying to figure out a new melody. ♪ come on baby light my fire >> reporter: alarm. jeanne moos, cnn -- go to break! >> there may and fire on this floor -- next. >> reporter: new york. top of the hour, i'm suzanne malveaux. we're keeping an eye on the markets and your money. investors are taking a step back today after the dow soar almost 500 points yesterday. it posted its biggest gain since 2009. wall street is watching the debt crisis in europe and new economic reports here at home. the dow was down 25 points just at the opening bell, right now down 28 points. the lawyer for jerry sandusky, the former penn state defensive coach, is backtracking on some earlier comments he made about a possible plea deal. joe amendola said a plea could happen if more people come forward claiming sandusky molested them. he told a cnn contributor such could make the case an uphill battle. in a statement last year amendola says he was only answering a hypothetical question. penn state students are voicing their concerns, their disgust and embarrassment about the scandal that has engulfed the campus. they got a chance to ask some questions at a town hall last night with the university's officials. >> now i want to tell you how i feel. i don't know if all of you feel this way, but sandusky was part of the penn state family. we all are. and i feel shame. >> jerry sandusky's preliminary hearing is now set for december 13th. at least one of the alleged victims will have to testify. well, a month now before american troops pull out of iraq they are being honored for their service and sacrifices over the last 8 1/2 years. vice president joe biden and iraqi prime minister nuri al maliki paid prtribute to troops from both countries today at a ceremony in baghdad. it took place at the palace that once belonged to saddam hussein. 11,000 american troops are still in iraq. most of them will be out by the end of the year. secretary of state hillary clinton is wrapping up her historic visit to myanmar. the reclusive country in southeast asia formerly known at burma. she met today with the country's new civilian president and democratic activist aung san suu kyi and gave both letters from president obama. the president wrote that he was encouraged by the step that myanmar's military rulers have taken but that more reforms need to happen. there are a lot of kids in san francisco, right? when they open up their mcdonald's happy meals, they're not going to be too happy. starting today, the city is banning the toys and the trinkets in the kid's meals that don't meet certain nutritional guidelines. but here's the catch. mcdonald's has found a loophole. parents can ask for a toy to be included for a dime. we'll see how that works out. all right. grammy buzz all about adele. the british singer racked up six nominations, including album of the year. she's awesome. adele is recovering from throat surgery. it is not clear whether or not she going to be able to perform at the grammy awards. that's happening on february 12th. she did not get the most nominations, however. cass kanye west who did. he got seven. three years, 30 million funerals. it is world aids day. everyone from u.s. presidents to rock superstars are talking about this ongoing fight to end this epidemic. among the famous faces at today's event at george washington university, bono. he is the spokesman for the one campaign as well as musician alicia keys. >> i couldn't believe being in a campaign of aids activists, the heroes of the struggle, discovering they were all hiv positive themselves, and they were discovering they didn't have drugs and when the drugs arrived i was there. them fighting amongst each other about who gets the drugs. not fighting for themselves, but they were the least important persons. it was unbelievable. i will never forget it. three and four people -- you're here in beds, on top of the bed, under the bed, things you don't want to see in your life and we're not going to see it if the rest of the world follows the leader shfship of the united states of america and i really want to say -- and i'm not an american so you have to listen to it from me -- thank you, thank you, thank you to the united states of america. thank you so much on behalf of all those people you won't meet. >> we have the opportunity to be a global community that can leave a legacy of an aids-free generation. like for real! you know what i mean? and it makes me so unbelievable committed and it makes me so excited because my son -- i'm 30. when my son is 30, we must make it that he won't even know about this. he'll know that it was in the past and that now we have created the end of it. so if we have the power to, then we march. what is next in the battle against aids? we'll take a look at the latest medical advancements, we'll talk to bono and our own dr. sanjay gupta this hour about the possibility of bringing a new generation into the world without aids. we're also going to look at the current state of the aids epidemic and which groups are hit worldwide. and also ahead on the rundown, a cnn exclusive. undocumented students banned from attending georgia university system can't afford a private school. maybe i am undocumented and maybe i should have gotten 4.0 and did better on the s.a.t. then maybe i would have gotten into those prestigious ivy league private schools. then a rape victim imprisoned in afghanistan can go free where her safety is not necessarily guaranteed, however. and from public park to corporate office, a look inside the headquarters for occupy wall street protesters in new york. and finally, cnn goes in-depth on baby boomers. a look at where they're choosing to retire and why. [ male announcer ] shopping for medicare coverage? the annual enrollment period ends december 7th. now is the time to take action. call unitedhealthcare medicare solutions today. the it's virus has claimed tens of millions of lives since 1981, and although millions of people are still living with the infection today, there are some encouraging signs. want to bring in our carl azuz joining us. carl, explain to us how many people now are living with hiv or aids? >> worldwide we are looking at around 33 million people. it is a sizable chunk of the population but there is a silver lining to this. the best way to illustrate that is to show you graphics of the number of hiv/aids cases in the world. you see in the space, we did this in five-year increments. in the space between 1991 and 1996 there was an increase of roughly 10 million hiv cases in the world. but that starts to slow down. 8 million increase between '96 and 2001. but then between the space of 2006 and 2011 you see an increase of only 1 million. there are a couple of reasons for why this is plateauing. one of it is that people who have the disease are dieing from it but another component is the fact that there are fewer new cases each year. in fact, this next graphic illustrates just that. in 2009 there were 2.6 million new hiv infections. 1999, 3.1 million. in 1997, the most new cases of hiv/aids. it is not a dramatic increase but it is a steady one and really it is education, the fact that more people know how to protect an take care of themselves and it is also helping mothers that have hiv not pass it on to their babies is the reason for these plateaus and decreases. >> carl, where are the areas in the world still hardest hit? >> without a doubt, africa south of the sahara desert is where we've seen the most cases. we mentioned a moment ago it is around 33 million people worldwide living with hiv/aids. sub-saharan africa accounts for 22.5 million of those cases, or at least it did in 1999. in south africa, 5.6 million cases there. overall, even in the areas that are worst hit, cases are decreasing. there is just one exception to that and that is the area of eastern europe and central asia. numbers there of new hiv/aids cases are increasing. researchers aren't sure why. there are a number of theories. one of the main goals of world aids day is to get the word out about aids, educate people be hopefully stop this virus and overall due to these plateauing numbers and decreasing new cases, it seems that message is getting through. >> as carl mentioned with be 30 million lives an counting. aids has been a worldwide crisis for three decades and the fight is not over. i want to look at some of the global impact. >> reporter: hiv cases continue to rise here in europe. that according to the w.h.o. the epidemic here still not under control. campaigners say awareness is crucial to battling the stigma that surrounds the disease. >> people in european countries don't tend to be as aware of this issue because for them, it is abstract and it is something invisible. hiv and aids sometimes has tended to go off the radar. deck aids ago when it first arrived, people it was really all over the newspapers. everyone is talking about it. it was a major fight. it tends to have receded. what we as campaigners need to do is to make sure that it just doesn't disappear from the front pages of newspapers and media outlets. >> i'm robyn curnow in durbin, strik. this has been and continues to be the epicenter of the global aids pandemic. south africa has the most people living with hiv/aids in the world. now although women remain the most vulnerable, there are some encouraging signs. more than 60% of all pregnant women are tested and receive counseling. and also, unicef says they aim to irrad cat mother to child transmission by 2015 basically saying that not a child in the next few years should be born hiv positive. importantly, also across the continent, more people than ever are receiving life saving treatment. he is a rock star who wants his greatest hit to be a knock-out bunch against aids. i'll talk to u-2 frontman bono live from his one campaign and what it will take to make hiv/aids history. this new at&t 4g lte is fast. did you hear sam... ...got promoted to director? so 12 seconds ago. we should get him a present. thanks for the gift basket. you're welcome. you're welcome. did you see hr just sent out new... ...office rules? cause you're currently in violation of 6 of them. oh yeah, baby? ...and 7. did you guys hear that fred is leaving? so 30 seconds ago. 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>> they will die off a little bit today, be back tomorrow morning and overnight tonight and into tomorrow, then will be gone for saturday. but they are really blowing things down. i'm actually on the scanner frequencies from l.a. county fire and now they're worried a lot about any time they're seeing smoke, they are on it right now because winds at 56 miles per hour could certainly make a wildfire out of control very quickly. look at centerville, utah. only 30 or 40 miles north of salt lake city, near bountiful. 100-mile-per-hour wind gusts. whitaker peak in california had 97. unofficially, at the top of ma' mammoth mountain, an unofficial gust of 130. let's go to daniel video. this is what it looks like. the winds were coming down and the trees were coming down as well. they are still coming down. cars have been going sideways on the highway. a bunch of tow trucks are on the way to pick up those. i know santa ana winds, they're like 100 miles per hour but in fact -- and 100 degrees sometimes but this is not the case today. these winds are very cold. coming out of the desert. coming out of las vegas which has significant airport delays right now as well. dust in the air everywhere out here. as the winds blow the trees down, it is going to be a slow day in southern california. watch yourself. not even any time to be any welding outside. no fires outside. no sparks at all because the winds will be coming down through the valleys and at times even later on this afternoon we will get gusts again to about 80 to 90 miles per hour. airports are really a mess. obviously with winds like that you can't land a plane, especially in a cross breeze like that. it is going to be a very tough day in southern california, southern nevada, also parts of utah still today. >> thank you, chad. university students banned from attending schools in georgia. now they're finding a new place to learn and it doesn't cost them a dime. we'll go inside freedom university. mine was earned over the south pacific in 1943. vietnam, 1967. i got mine in iraq, 2003. u.s.a.a. auto insurance is often handed down from generation to generation, because it offers a superior level of protection and because u.s.a.a.'s commitment to serve the military, veterans, and their families is without equal. begin your legacy. get an auto insurance quote. u.s.a.a. we know what it means to serve. ♪ sen♪ co-signed her credit card - "buy books, not beer!" ♪ ♪ut the second at she shut the door ♪ ♪ girl started blowing up their credit score ♪ ♪ she bought a pizza party for the whole dorm floor ♪ ♪ hundred pounds of makeup at the makeup store ♪ ♪ and a ticket down to spring break in mexico ♪ ♪ but her folks didn't know 'cause her folks didn't go ♪ ♪ to free-credit-score-dot-com hard times for daddy and mom. ♪ with less chronic low back pain. imagine living your life with less chronic osteoarthritis pain. imagine you, with less pain. cymbalta can help. cymbalta is a non-narcotic treatment that's fda-approved to manage chronic musculoskeletal pain. one pill a day, every day, can help reduce this pain. tell your doctor right away if your mood worsens, you have unusual changes in mood or behavior or thoughts of suicide. antidepressants can increase these in children, teens, and young adults. cymbalta is not approved for children under 18. people taking maois or thioridazine or with uncontrolled glaucoma should not take cymbalta. taking it with nsaid pain relievers, aspirin, or blood thinners may increase bleeding risk. severe liver problems, some fatal, were reported. signs include abdominal pain and yellowing of the skin or eyes. talk with your doctor about your medicines, including those for migraine, or if you have high fever, confusion and stiff muscles, to address a possible life-threatening condition. tell your doctor about alcohol use, liver disease, and before you reduce or stop taking cymbalta. dizziness or fainting may occur upon standing. side effects include nausea, dry mouth, and constipation. 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did you have resources? >> no. >> reporter: but the freedom university co-founder says they have students who are hungry to learn. so why the ban? a spokesman for the regents told cnn the main reason is not money. he says before the ban undocumented students paid out of state tuition, three times more than georgia residents. and it isn't because they were flooding the university. out of 310,000 students, 27 were undocumented. the major reason -- to tighten admissions so that every open slot goes to a legal georgia resident. meet kate. her parents brought her from south korea as a child. she grew up in atlanta and became captain of her high school debate team. now since she can't go to college she works at the flea market with her father. there are many people who would say why should we as taxpayers pay for you guys to go to school. >> my parents have been paying taxes. if they're not here -- the government gave us an individual taxpayer i.d. >> so your parents are taxpayers. even though they are undocumented. >> yes. every year we pay our taxes. >> reporter: we looked at the family's tax returns for the past ten years and they indeed pay taxes. since kate is banned from public university, her dreams faded. >> i thought every night and every day, i could have tried harder. you know? maybe i should really have listened to my parents and maybe i should have gotten 4.0 and gotten more on the s.a.t.s. then maybe i would have gotten into those prestigious ivy league kind of schools, then maybe i will be in school and i felt so horrible. >> reporter: this year for the first time, keisha and her classmates are able to return to school because of freedom university. ironically the professors say it is they who are learning the most. >> i've learned about the essence of education, students are not coming to the university for credits. they are not coming to the university because they are thinking they will get a job. they are coming to learn. >> it is just a reminder of what real citizenship looks like. it is taking ownership of making the country a better place. >> reporter: and so the donated classroom space called freedom university exists without a budget and thrives only on the professor's passion to teach and the students longing to learn. so today, professors and members of the student government from the university of georgia will be asking the university's council to go on the record opposing the board of regent's ban so their fight is just beginning, they say. >> thelma, help us understand this. is this freedom university accredited and what are students actually going to walk away with here? >> good question, suzanne. lots of people asking that. the school is not accredited. they just started about a month ago. they have 33 students. but the students, you talk to them and they'll say it is not about walking away with something that's transferable, though that would be nice. it is about the right and the ability to go to school and the ability to study and that's why they're doing it. >> we saw in your piece that the classrooms have got new books. how is this freedom university actually funded? how do they afford that? >> well, when they started, suzanne, they actually had zero money, zero books, zero location. they had nothing. but people started coming out and donating books. they actually organized a book drive online at amazon to buy textbooks for the students and someone else came up and provided a place for them to hold class. and other people are actually driving these students to and from school because, since they don't have driver's licenses, they can't get to school. they're doing it really just solely by the will of the people who want to help out. >> interesting story. thank you, thelma. he's not just a rock star. he's an activist leading the fight against aids. we'll talk to bono live in just two minutes. and as well as dr. sanjay gupta. he'll be on hand. we're going to ask him what it is going to take to make hiv/aids history. >> people have spent entire careers, like lifetimes, thinking about what gesture means. so as we explore this realm of social robotics for the first time, i believe that collaborating with performers and with different artists can actually help us with the development and creation of these technologies. ♪ [ male announcer ] sometimes, a hint is all the wrapping a gift needs. is that what i think it is? 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>> the process -- well, i think you've got communicate to people what they've achieved. the united states is leading on this. and even though in europe there -- they have bigger development budgets as a percentage, on this disease the united states is way out in front in their leadership. the united states has saved 5 million lives by getting them these drugs that were once thought impossible to get to rural areas in far-away places. so first thing i think we start by thanking the american people and to tell them it is a tiny fragment of government spending. for less than 1% of government spending, all development assistance comes through. i think if they know that there's value for money that lives are being transformed, then i think they'll go the next step. >> that is really great news. that's a great motivator when you think about that, kind of give yourself a pat on the back, how well things have been going. you talk a lot about this battle against poverty and you raise millions of dollars with your one campaign. is there anything money can't do that needs to be done to fight this disease? >> oh, yes. we had at today's meeting three presidents. president clinton was very keen in these tough economic times to talk about making sure that the money gets spent accurately and exactly and that we be doubly circumspect. one reason i'm a supporter of the global fund is because they continually out themselves if they find corruption, and then demand that the host country pay them back. sometimes you'll hear a little scandal about this, we like to hear. we like the truth, even if it is ugly. it is hard to do this work, hard to spend the money sufficiently but we are doing it and the global fund charge i think -- for red, they don't charge us anything. any red -- you walk into an apple store today, all the apple stores are lit up or starbucks, or you buy a belvedere vot ka. coca-cola came on today. big iconic brand. none of the money comes out of that. it goes straight to the people who need them to buy those precious life saving drugs. >> you were with three presidents. last time i saw you with president bush in 2007 at the g-8 summit and he is just one of the world leaders you pulled into this fight against aids. how do you convince these world leaders? what do you tell them when you sit down with them that this is an important cause? why do they even listen? >> coming to a stadium near you. >> very convincing. i can tell you. just a few minutes with him. >> it's not me they're afraid of. it is our audience and the u-2 audience is -- they're very smart, early adopters. they're noisy people and then it is the audience of voting age. because a lot of people -- we've still got a very young audience in u-2. and i think that that's it. and we tried not to be -- to promote the left against the right or visa versa. we work with both sides. think that helps that we're not playing politics and we've had an amazing result with the one campaign and if you want to be a campaigner? you want to really fight against the injustice of this stuff? get informed, get busy, join one. if you're too busy -- people have very, very busy lives -- you just want to help out with this pandemic or aids because it is destroyed so many life. buy red stuff. it's christmas. whatever it is. gap. go into the gap store and shake them down. >> sanjay is one of those people obviously who's got a ton on his plate. we know how busy you are sanjay but tell us a little bit about the change here. obviously it was a generation of americans, you and i grew up, you know, terrified of aids and this threat in the united states. what do we see 30 years later? >> well, at one point -- and president clinton talked about this today -- they thought that hiv/aids was solely a u.s. disease and then for a long time they thought it was only outside the united states in places like africa. now in some ways they forget that it actually is in the united states as well as a disease overseas. i think there's been tremendous progress made. in 2003, correct me if i'm wrong, bono -- a few hundred thousand people were probably getting treated. >> globally. >> yeah. few hundred thousand people, suzanne. now it is 6 million. so that alone i think is -- and i traveled all over the world. i've seen some of the work that bono's foundation has done. it is -- at a time in washington -- suzanne, you know this better than anybody else -- where it is very divisive, i think you would agree with me, this issue gavel niced -- president bush was here, president clinton, president obama, that was remarkable. >> it might be the one thing they can all agree on. and president obama was keen to point out that if they can work across the aisle on this stuff, where -- i can't exaggerate what america has done. this is the greatest act of heroism in my view since america jumped in the second world war. you saved personally, america, about 5 million lives. this is gigantic and you've done it by working in concert left and right and i think that is at a time perhaps going into the holiday season when there's just so much economic doom and gloom. just to remind yourselves that you are an incredible country and the things that you are capable of. outside in the world in britain, you have a conservative prime minister david cameron ha has raised his aids budget because he says we know we need cuts but we're not doing cuts that will cost lives. this helps the world know who we are. in ireland i'm sorry to say we kept our aids budget safe because we don't want the budget to cost lives. president clinton was talking about the strategic aspect of that and dealing with the outside world, looking at it from the point of view of the military, from the point of view of business and commerce. we want the world to know we care whether their children live or die or not. if we have these technologies that can safe people's children we must get it out to them and show them who we are, show them what we are for and against. >> and the attitude toward the united states, even in some pretty down times in the last several years have always remained positive in certain parts of the world including africa. >> polling out of the top ten countries that -- not the united states -- 8 out of the african. i met president bush in the oval office early on. paint these pills red, white and blue if you have to but they'll be the best advisement for the united states you're ever going to get. that has actually proved to be true. president bush, his pep talk was a turning point in the war on aids and now for president obama to come in and finish it out shows just what can be accomplished in u.s. politics even at this dire time. >> bono, is it true -- i was on that trip to africa with president bush when he was promoting that program. is it true you took him aside in the oval office and you said as a man of faith that this is something that he should be a part of? >> you know, i will use everything at my means to talk people into doing the right thing. and there are 2,013, i think it is, versus of scripture that talk about the world's poor. christ only speaks of judgment once and it is not about your sexuality, it is not about your bad behavior. it's about how you treat the poor. matthew 25. i spoke to him and as a person of faith -- it might be a bad example of it -- to him who was a believer and he was moved by that. because we're so judgmental. this is what happens. this started in the united states in the gay community. people didn't want to go there and the gay community had to be bold and they showed incredible leadership and said this is not just about us, you know. this is affecting not just the rest of america. and now it is affect being the rest of the world. it is worth it on world aids day to remember heroes of the domestic aids fight, both from the gay community and straight community, from regular folks to people like sports stars like magic johnson, where would we be without magic johnson? elizabeth taylor is not around to see this day. those kinds of people. this is a really great day. if it is the beginning of the end of aids. for it to be -- for it to be, the president's words will have to be matched by the words of other presidents and then the actions of other countries following through. >> sanjay, bono makes the point whether or not we are close. are we close to a cure here? >> you know, i think "cure" is not the word that you're going to hear a lot in the scientific community, whether it be in the form of a vaccine or some other type of treatment. but what you're hearing is a sort of reemphasizing of what we now know works. for example, these are now proven numbers. anecdotally it's been thought for some time that if you treat people adequately you reduce the amount of virus in the body and they become less infectious, less likely to spread the disease. we thought that to be true in the scientific community. now we know it to be true and that's important and relevant because that makes your focus continue to be on treatment and you can reduce infections if the efficacy of this is 96%. you think about that. so you treat somebody, that obviously has the benefit that you might expect, but then you have all these other concordant benefits. that person is exponentially less likely to infect other people. so the idea of the beginning of the end of aids, the idea of alleviating the earth of this scourge, probably treatment as prevention is the moniker you're going to hear more than anything else nowadays. >> i'm always amazed how sanjay can make very complicated points. that's not an irish trait. >> perhaps you can sing when jan say delivers. it could all work very well, i think. >> thanks. >> thanks, suzanne. >> thanks you very much, sanjay. this weekend, watch sanjay's amazing interview with a man who may actually have been cured of aids by a bone marrow transplant. he courageously fought aids, helped educate a nation. ryan white died after contracting aids through a blood transfusion. he would have been 40 years old this month. now his mother continues to share his story. next hour we'll hear from her live in the newsroom. an after can woman who was raped and thrown in prison can now go free but if she does, she might face an angry crowd so her other option is to stay behind bars. that story has outraged much of the world. the latest from cnn's nick paton walsh. >> reporter: remarkable news out of kabul. the afghan president hamid karzai has issued a decree for the release of the rape victim we've been reporting about for the last couple of weeks. he has said he wants to released "into safety" to be sure when she comes out of jail with her young daughter she has a safe place to go to away from the threats made against her. we also understand from her lawyer that she has a safe place to go to upon release. the other outstanding issue is whether or not she does want to marry her attacker. her lawyer absolutely clear she does not want to marry this man at all. and we understand in the next day that her lawyer will be meeting with her and ministers on the instruction of the president will be meeting both her attacker and her to finally resolve this issue. but it does appear at this stage that the afghan president has personally intervened in this case which has brought attention globally to the terrifying plight of the girl who was raped by her cousin's husband, subsequently jailed for adultery because of the rape, had a child from the attack. is spending 12 years in jail because of the attack. the sentence now reduced and she may also be released very soon and faces debt threats because of the dishonor this whole ordeal has brought her and the community she's from. a terrifying case but something the afghan president feels oblig obliged. we understand she remains in jail and the earliest she could be released is perhaps at the weeke weekend. a few bureaucratic hurdles to cost. we understand she has a safe place to go to upon release and her release is what the afghan president wants at this time. a huge day of change in this story. nick paton walsh, cnn, new york. sure beats sleeping in the park. occupy wall street movement occupies some new office space. but is there a corporate digs going to diminish the message? 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the occupy wall street movement takes on a more corporate image. you might be wondering what happened to the protesters after police evicted them from the park in new york that they occupied for two months. well, some of them ended up in a surprising location. close to wall street but a lot more comfortable. poppy harlow explains. >> reporter: the park is nearly all cleared out. but occupy has moved to places that you probably wouldn't expect, including an office right off of wall street. you walk in, you get a name tag like this. is this occupy headquarters? is. >> not at all. this is one of our offices. because we don't have the park, we are spreading out our resources so we can have people join us where we can continue to work and continue to plan. >> show us around. >> this is some of our working space. you can see lots of occupiers working here. we have some offices our info hub to help people who were staying in the park who are now homeless. as every office needs, we have our copy machine. >> right in manhattan. this isn't cheap. how are you guys paying for this? >> we are not. it is donations. our office furniture was donated. our food is still donated. our water's donated. >> this really stands out to me -- we'll walk in here -- what the media is saying about the movement today. they're posting all the stuff that we, the media, are putting out there. you're keeping an eye on us. >> of course. >> is it a more professional movement now? you've got an office. is it different now? >> no, i don't think so. one of the things that we're trying to reconcile here is that we're trying to show the world a different way of doing things and the way we may be in an office space, we want to stay true to exactly who we are. >> so there's no boss on this office floor? >> absolutely not. we are a movement without leadership. people oftentimes say well a bunch of anarchists can't run th anything. they'll do what they want. nothing could be further from the truth on occupy wall street. we have layer upon layer upon layer of structure, and guidelines. the difference is we, the people, came up with those. >> reporter: here right next to the new york stock exchange in the trump building is another public meeting area for occupy wall street where a lot of them have gone since eviction from the park. >> a little ironic is actually the lobby of a bank but that actually makes it so much more important to us. >> is this base as important as your office is that we were in earlier in. >> this space is much more important than the office. >> why? >> because what you are seeing right here is decision making. i didn't tell what you we are going to look like in a year. what i can say is what you see around here is what's going to determine what we look like. >> poppy harlow joins us from new york. really fascinating when you see the transition here with this group, this organization. so you met with some of the folks there in the office and do they -- are they all volunteers? do they get paid? how does it actually work now? >> it's a great question. they are all volunteers. none them get paid. some of the folks that i talked to when we were in that office told me they are commuting from brooklyn, working 13 to 19 hours a day. it is all donation based. some of them i talked to even quit their jobs to work there. but i also think reality kicks in and one of them told me eventually i'm living off my savings. eventually i'm going to have to get a part-time job to keep this up. but i want to show you some interesting video. we also got into the storage facility for occupy wall street donations. sweaters, jackets, blankets, hand warmers for winter here in new york. apparently they are still getting about 100 boxes a day from all 50 states, they told me, of donations to the movement. i think this is going to change the perspective for those people that thought the movement died with that eviction from the park. >> poppy, how do they escape the perception here really. right? because it doesn't look very much like a protest movement. it looks like the campaign office or something. >> yeah. >> so how do they get beyond that and still convince folks that there is the gritty fighters that they were when they were in those parks? >> that's a fabulous question. they vehemently opposed itwh

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