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CNNW Erin Burnett OutFront July 3, 2012



the house of representatives has already scheduled a vote to repeal health care reform next week. and senate republicans have pledged to repeal it if they take back the senate this fall. the conservative base is firmly aligned against the health care law. mitt romney is campaigning on a pledge to repeal and replace. just look at the sign on his podium. over the weekend, senate minority leader mitch mcconnell was dismissive when he was asked, what happens after repeal? what would his party do about the 30 million uninsured americans? >> that is not the issue. the question is how can you go step by step to improve the american health care system? it's already the finest health care system in the world. >> you don't think that 30 million -- >> what our friends -- >> you don't think that's an issue? >> let me tell you what we're not going to do. we're not going to turn the american health care system into a western european system. >> we get it. we know what you're not going to do. we know what republicans are against. but what are you for? after repeal, what are we going to try to replace it with? when pressed for specifics, even mitt romney's own campaign has struggled to stay on message. while republicans when out of their way to attack it as a tax, here's mitt romney's campaign manager this morning. >> the governor believe what is we put in place in massachusetts was a penalty and he disagrees with the court's ruling that the mandate was a tax. >> i'm not sure what that means, but here to help us make sense of it is republican congresswoman nan hayworth of new york. good to see you, congresswoman. >> great to see you, john. thanks. >> you represent a hotly contested swing district. i want to read new poll numbers to you from cnn. when asked who would better handle health care, 51% of registered voters say obama, and 44% say romney. but more importantly, 65% of non-white voters would like to keep all the provisions in place. do these numbers concern you as a representative from a swing district? >> they don't, john, in the sense that i espouse the goals of the 2010 law. they're the right goals. every american should have good, affordable health care. and affordable health care insurance. that's not in question. but that law is a bad law. bluntly it imposes $2 trillion worth of bureaucracy that takes resources directly away from care. so there are smarter and better ways to achieve those goals. that's what i'm for. >> let's talk about that. you're a doctor. you have unique insight through your medical practice into the way medicine really works. >> right. >> and mitt romney and his advisers have said they do support certain popular provisions, keeping kids on their parents' insurance till the age of 26, making it not policy for companies to discriminate against people with pre-existing conditions. if those elements of the law are kept, how do republicans propose to pay for it? >> we want to make sure that everybody gets care. but we want to put you, the citizen, patients and doctors, at the center of care and not the government. so how can we do that? we're going to be listening to the american people. we are going to espouse commonsense, step-by-step solutions. but here's what i would do. i'm speaking for myself here. what i would do is make health savings accounts, the way in which americans pay for their health care and their insurance, tax-protected, health savings accounts. i would make insurance broadly available across state lines so that people have the competition that drives down the cost of insurance. i would make sure that we have real liability reform, because in the united states that's a unique problem. so when we try to model a care system like the affordable care act, after, say, the national health service in britain, they do not have the defensive medicine problems that we do. that's one major obstacle to its success. the final point is that we do need to provide for those who would not be able to get insurance, if they didn't have help. high-risk pools making sure that everybody gets the coverage they need. >> i appreciate you being specific. i'm going to read one specific plan to you and get your take on it. offered by a prominent republican. he said, we established incentives for those who are uninsured to buy insurance. using tax penalties, as we did, or tax credits, encourages free riders to take responsibility for themselves rather than pass their medical costs on to others. this doesn't cost the government a single dollar. that's governor romney back in 2009 in "usa today." what changed? sounds like president obama took some of his advice? >> the state of massachusetts liked that plan and, to my knowledge, they still like that plan. but i would not want to see it imposed federally. i don't think that it's a good plan for the entire united states. governor romney seems -- and i would not presume to speak for him -- but he seems to have come to that conclusion as well. massachusetts has had a lot of challenges with rising costs. they have a very expensive system that is rapidly heading toward real access problems. but i'll tell you where health savings accounts have worked really well, in the state of indiana. republican governor, democrats and republicans in the legislature, not partisan, they have health savings accounts for their medicaid recipients and they have them for state employees as well, healthy indiana, great program. it's worked brilliantly. >> i want to bring the race up to date for a second. you were in a hotly contested district in 2010 and there's a robocall playing in your district, i want to play it and get your reaction. >> congresswoman nan hayworth has gone washington after taking nearly $130,000 from insurance companies, congresswoman hayworth wants to put insurance companies back in charge of our health care and let them deny coverage to people with pre-existing conditions like asthma, heart disease and cancer, cut back your health benefits, throw some kids off their parents' insurance and roll back prescription coverage for seniors. >> now, that sounds like fear-mongering to me. tell me where they're wrong. >> that is partisanship. it's fear-mongering. it's irresponsible, john. i support every goal of the 2010 law. i don't want to see everybody kicked off health insurance. i want to see everybody get the care they need. and let's not ignore the fact that everybody who voted for and everybody who supports the 2010 law is supporting taking a half trillion dollars of funding out of medicare. medicare is going broke. we need to protect our seniors. and the best way to protect our seniors right now is to make sure that that funding goes back into medicare. great goals, wrong law, too costly. we can't afford it. we can't afford to have the federal government try to run your health care from washington. we can do it much better if we allow our patients and doctors and consumers to make smart choices. >> thank you, congresswoman. appreciate it. >> thank you. still "outfront" tonight, a secret phone call from air force one. who's the president calling and what's he saying? 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"outfront" tonight, ben smith, editor-in-chief of buzz feed. margaret hoover, cnn contributor and lisa borders, president of grady health foundation and a fellow co-founder of "no labels." ben, let's take a look at the total fund-raising numbers first. obama's raised more than $255 million while romney's raised more than $121 million. this doesn't include june. if the romney campaign numbers are right, should obama be worried? >> i think he should. mitt romney turns out to be great at raising money. that's something he didn't have to deal with last cycle with john mccain. it's basically almost mitt romney's profession. when he was running bain capital, that was about getting rich people to give him money to invest. that's basically what he is doing this summer. you may see him on tv once in a while. he's raising a lot of money. and he has friends and outside groups who are going to give more. >> but this is something that president obama has not been bad at in the past either. fund-raising is what president obama did in breakthrough ways. so much so he didn't take matching funds from the government when he ran in 2008. unprecedented at the time. so i think the real issue is, is there actually an enthusiasm gap as represented by the lack of donations into president obama's campaign? >> but one question about unprecedented is the use of air force one. is that really a sign that the obama camp is worried? are you hearing anxiety among democratic donors that what they thought would be an easy race sure isn't, especially in the moneyball game? >> no race is an easy race. i can tell you that early money is the best money. i think the president is being very strategic. and making sure that he has all his resources in the arsenal and ready to launch them whenever he needs to, whether it's to buy airtime, whether it's to put collateral together or otherwise get his message out to all of the voters. remember, the money is an enabler. it doesn't necessarily say who's going to win the race, as we evidenced here in georgia when one of our former governors had more money 4 to 1 to the candidate that actually won. >> that's true. money does not always equal strength. but, margaret, one of the ironic results of the supreme court decision was a huge moneyball on behalf of mitt romney. $4.6 million raised in the first 24 hours. >> from 43,000 donors at least. it looks like about 30,000 of them were new donors. the republican cause, the republican party. this is also unprecedented. what you've seen in the past is this issue, galvanizes the conservative base. but it's independent and new people who have not donated to the republican campaign before. that is trouble for president obama. >> it could be a secret weapon. let me go back to this dialling for dollars on air force one. i don't know if it's unprecedented. but if it wasn't something they were trying to hide, how come they didn't tell people about it? >> i don't think they want to talk about the enormous amount of time obama's spending trying to raise money. i think if there's a little sense of panic in that call -- it's not -- they want donors to panic. they're trying to get democrats scared about this election. that was the core of his message. >> lisa, you work in the medical field, are you starting to hear a little anxiousness about the problems that could arise when the aforwardable care act begins to be implemented, that somehow democrats will own whatever inefish,s that occur in the health care system and that would be a political issue? >> listen, we all own the inefficiencies in the health care system. the health care system is broken and the money that's being spent -- that will be spent in the future, we have costs coming from the emergency room every day. what i'm hearing on the ground from republicans and democrats alike is they are very excited about the affordable care act. we understand that folks are concerned about how to finance it. but at the end of the day, democrats and republicans alike are in this boat together. the people in america are really interested about having their care delivered, not being seen when they have a crisis, a stroke or a heart attack, when it could have been prevented and being spent one-tenth of the price that it would normally cost. >> before we go, i want to have a little bit of fun with politics. you at buzz feed put up a gallery of political figures' high school yearbook photos. it is a must-see. let's see which of these photos we can connect the dots to. one of these folks is rob portman, rick santorum, david axelrod and janet napolitano. there should be some game show music here. >> can i guess? top left, rob portman. bottom right, napolitano. bottom left, axelrod. top right, santorum. >> wow, margaret aces the quiz. >> santorum was the easy one. >> really? >> there were no answers given out ahead of time. just to tease the gallery, it also features rand paul dissecting a cat. >> that was not acceptable for cnn to air. >> paul ryan looking fully out of the breakfast club and eric cantor's yearbook photo with the slogan "i want what i want when i want it". >> i don't know if john boehner knows about that. >> somehow i think he's gotten that idea. it was a great panel, great time. check out the buzz feed footage. ahead. a texas grad student fighting for his life after being dragged and mauled by chimpanzees. his roommate and longtime friend comes "outfront." and could the bailout cause president obama a key battleground state? we'll find out. brain freeze cake donettes rolling hot dogs bag of ice anti-freeze wash and dry diesel self-serve fix a flat jumper cables 5% cashback signup for 5% cashback at gas stations through september. it pays to discover. tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 let's talk about that 401(k) you picked up back in the '80s. tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 like a lot of things, the market has changed, tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 and your plans probably have too. tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 so those old investments might not sound so hot today. tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 at charles schwab, we'll give you personalized recommendations tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 on how to reinvest that old 401(k) tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 and help you handle all of the rollover details. tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 so talk to chuck tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 and bring your old 401(k) into the 21st century. tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 you walk into a conventional mattress store, it's really not about you. they say, "well, if you wanted a firm bed you can lie on one of those. if you want a soft bed you can lie on one of those." we provide the exact individualization that your body needs. welcome to the lowest prices of the season, not just on ordinary beds, but on the bed that can change your life. the sleep number bed. this is your body there. you can see a little more pressure in the hips. take it up one notch. oh gosh, yes. when you're playing around with that remote, you get that moment where you go, "oh yeah" ... oh, yeah! ... and it's perfect. they had no idea that when they came to a sleep number store, we were going to diagnose their problems and help them sleep better. and don't miss our special financing now through july 4th only. plus enjoy the lowest prices of the season on selected bed sets once you experience it, there's no going back. wow. it's the lowest prices of the season on the amazing sleep number bed. special offer ends july 4th only at the sleep number store, where queen mattresses start at just $699. ♪ in a world where ♪ there is so much to see ♪ there's still no other place ♪ that i would rather, rather ♪ rather, rather be ♪ [ male announcer ] dip into sabra hummus and discover a little taste of the world. enjoy sabra dips. adventure awaits. our third story "outfront," a new cnn poll out today giving mitt romney an eight-point lead over president obama in key battleground states. perhaps no swing state is more important than ohio. not since kennedy has a candidate won the white house without first winning ohio. on the surface, the numbers there tell a good story for president obama, 7.3% unemployment, well below the national average. it's also a state where you'll hear the obama campaign tout the auto bailout. but does it add up to a win for him in the buckeye state? not necessarily. poppy harlow is "outfront" tonight in warren, ohio. >> reporter: what i'm learning in these factory towns is that there are many different stories, many different perspectives. how's the economy doing here in warren, ohio? >> i'm trying to think of different ways to say horrible. >> the economy's doing fine here in god's country. >> reporter: you voted for president obama in 2008. what about this year? >> not a chance. >> reporter: warren, ohio, and lordstown, ohio, two towns 15 minutes apart with two very different stories. does this town really revolve around the gm plant? >> yes. >> reporter: no question? >> no question. >> reporter: we met sherry gaunt in lordstown, longtime gm worker and vice president of the local united auto workers. >> look where gm is at now. if the government didn't step in, i may not be working. i might not have a job. >> reporter: here at gm's lordstown, ohio, plant, they are cranking out the chevy cruz. the plant has gone from one shift of 2,200 workers in 2009 to three shifts, with 4,500 workers today. but like most auto workers these days, sherry's felt the pain of layoffs. how much does the auto bailout play into politics for you today in this election? >> it means everything. >> reporter: everything? >> everything. because the future -- we're doing real well right now. >> reporter: her co-workers told us a similar story. who are you supporting for president? >> obama. >> reporter: why? >> because he's for the working class. and he helped with the bailout. >> it speaks a lot about his character, his concern for us. >> reporter: but in warren, ohio, some former auto workers are angry. >> i was one of the innovators. >> reporter: bruce gump worked at auto parts supplier delphi for 34 years, a senior engineer. non-union. what did the auto bailout mean to you? >> the auto bailout, the effect on me and my family is a loss of all of my health care insurance, a loss

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