>> the petih-hawk, chapman families would like to thank the jury for their very difficult decision on this case. >> cnn's deborah feyerick cov offing this case from the beginning. she's in new haven, connecticut. take us inside the courtroom when we get the verdict, death by lethal injection. >> reporter: you know, it was very emotional during the reading of the verdict, death on all six counts, that komisarjevsky was facing. he showed no real emotion. at the enwas led out in handcuffs. members of the petit family and supporters who have been here every day of the month-long trial and the penalty phase, they seemed relieved but they were filled with i motion. finally it would end because you have to remember, this is one of two trials. but now it's over. and i even asked dr. petit, do you feel elation, exhaustion, peace? and he paused. he said, not elation, but peace. it was an enticing prospect to get to, his words, normal life and used the quotation marks. this has consumed every day, every hour, as they've come to this courthouse, tried to have their presence felt by the jurors. one juror told us there was a lot of crying but in the en, though they looked at the sum total of joshua's life, the child abuse, being ignored by his parents, just things not a happy childhood, ultimately there was nothing that could justify anything that happened in the house that night. the seven hours of torture, the forcing jennifer hawke-petit to the bank to withdraw ransom money and raping and strangling her before setting the house on fire, killing those two girls. there's a sense of peace tonight, and perhaps it's ended. john? >> perhaps. perhaps. deborah feyerick on the scene of the verdict, thank you so much. pennsylvania, the former disgraced, former penn state assistant football coach jerry sandusky spent his first full day at home wearing an ankle bracelet, and preparing for a court date next week. cnn contributor sara ganim has been on top of the story from the beginning. jerry sandusky's free on bail. his wife releaseded a statement saying he is innocent and asking people to have an open mind. what is the reaction in the community. >> reporter: we'll have been talking about dottie all day, what she knew, what she may have heard, specially after the release of the second grant jury presentment which say witness of the victims, number nine, alleged that he screamed out for help while being asalted in the basement of the sandusky home hoping dottie would help him but no help came. na prompted the statement dottie released proclaiming shah that she's standing by her husband, hoping people will wait to give him a chance to prove that innocence. but you know, the big question that we've been hearing today is, is she now a part of the investigation? could she be charged? the answer is that, unless you have come kind of direct knowledge of child abuse, no. but it's an ongoing investigation. we haven't heard either way on charges against several people who are kind of peripheral players, the a.g.'s office is only saying it's ongoing. that's something we've been hearing a lot today, john. >> what do we expect from the next round in court, sarah? >> well, you know, tuesday is the preliminary hearing for jerry sandusky. we expect to hear from several, if not all, of the victims that are known to the attorney general's office. that could be up to eight, maybe more. we expect to hear from them. that's expected to last all day. i think it could go possibly into another day. we dough no joe amendola was at the sandusky home all day today preparing his client, jerry sandusky, for what's going to go down tuesday. he did say to reporters, however, including cnn, right before he went in, anyone who is expecting a bombshell out of tuesday is probably going to be let down. >> sara ganim for us on the important news. the first time jerry sandusky in court face-to-face with his alleged victims. the campaign trail, more evidence tonight the romney campaign is prepared to battle aut out all out in iowa and aggressively against newt gingrich. he drew several sharp contrasts with the house speaker, including two out of this world attacks in this conversation with the des moines register. >> i saw the speaker had a measure that i read about, to put a permanent colony on the moon to mine rare materials from the moon. i think we've got other priorities for our spending before we do that. even talked about a series of mirrors that we could put in space that would light our highways. i've got better ideas for our resources. >> speaker gingrich faced a tough attack from senator rand paul, the son of congressman ron paul. >> newt gingrich is a big champion of the bank bailout. i don't know huh he could be considered a conservative or appeal to tea party voters. i don't know how once people get to know who he is what he supported, i don't know how the tea party could support him. >> rick perry also sat down with the des moines register editorial board and his christian faith was a major topic. >> my faith teaches me that this is an all-powerful creator that when a bird falls from the sky, he knows it. and i believe that. and that is part of who i am. and i'm not going to change that. if people decide, listen, you know, your religious faith is, you know, scares me off, my religious faith hadn't got in the way of texas from the standpoint of making us the most economically powerful state in the nation. >> let's come back to washington now. take a look at this. >> house will be in order and the chair lays before the house communication from the speaker. >> that's the house gaveling in for the start of the business day. their business day, lasted two minutes. that's right. how long was your workday? two minute. the senate wasn't even in session today. is it an early christmas in washington? the democratic leader of the house nancy pelosi and other house democrats are accusing republicans of that, setting the stage for a showdown over the extension of a payroll tax cut. >> we are working to make sure that we can honor the budget requirement that we have legislation before the end of the year. we're past the fiscal year, but before the end of the calendar year, before we can leave for christmas. we can't leave for the holidays without finishing that work. and we can't leave for the holidays without passing a payroll tax cut for the middle class. >> let's bring in our congressional correspondent, kate bolduan. maybe you can help me. no holiday cheer up there? >> reporter: i would say not so much holiday cheer at the moment. number one, not a the of people are around as you rightly pointed out. but also, here's the latest on where things stand. there was a lot of back and forth between democrats and the senate, republicans and the senate as well, as especially the republican leadership in the house. despite the fact that the senate voted down two additional proposals to extent the payroll tax cut, one democratic measure, republican measure and the fact that the president was involve with talking about the payroll tax extension and the house unveiled the details of their proposal to extent the payroll tax cut. there's no clear path to compromise because both sides have become dug in. latest today, house republicans formally unveiled their proposal to extent the payroll tax cut it extents the tax cut and unemployment benefits. here's the key that shows that republicans are spoiling for a fight here with -- especially a showdown -- with democrats as well as the president. linking extension to the provision that would speed up approval of the keystone pipeline. the president has come out to say he would reject that. he did that earlier today. earlier this week. but republicans are fupushing forward. democrats call it a poison pill. both sides are accusing the other of playing politics, it's a critical week if they make or break the payroll tax extension. >> let's hope they get it done next week. i think most americans would think coal in all of their stockings. >> not a surprise. >> thanks tonight. considered case close against boeing a contentious issue between the airlinemaker and a major union has been settl settled. the board dropped the complaint against boeing at the request of the machinist union. when the board filed the complaint it drew the ire of republicans who accused the administration and the board of meddling in business. basically the complaint asserted that boeing was retaliating against union workers in washington state billing a giant, new plant in south carolina. they ratified a four-year contract that guarantees job security in washington state. boston, occupied movement lives another day. encampment in operation. the midnight deadline for protesters to clear out passed this morning but police did not enforce the eviction notice. the mayor of boston, generally supportive of the movement but says upcoming cold weather could make safety an issue. he's asking protesters to please leave on they're own. tough talk from pakistan about its western border with afghanistan and that talk aimed directly at the united states. more fallout from the nato air strikes on a border post that killed 24 pakistani soldier. pakistan's military is thinking about bolstering its air defense system. what one official told cnn, take note tis of the language. if somebody pounds you out of existence we should be able to hit back. and he said, pakistan never expected aggression, aggression in quotes there, on its western border. today the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff here in the united states, general martin dempsey, had this to say about relations with pakistan. >> what we're trying to do is have -- show some patience asking them to show patience, and we'll try to get back in touch with each other and see if we can work through it. but, yeah it's a mess. >> a mess might be an understatement. the general dismissed that the air strikes were intentional. an american reportedly being held hostage and the desperate plea for his freedom. 63-year-old robert levinson, former fbi agent who went missing in iran almost five years ago. less than a minute long, the middle eastern style music playing in the background. you see him there and asks, please help me. levinson's family received this video a year ago. you can see and hear, emotions are still fresh. this is his wife, christine. >> when i saw it, i was very sad to see him looking the way he does. however, at the same time, i was happy to learn that he was alive. >> jill dougherty has spoken to family members. she's been covering this case. why did the family wait a year to release this video? >> reporter: they said when they got the video they tried, through various channels to reach out to whoever sent it to them. they still don't know who's holding mr. levenson. they tried to reach out. they never got anything back. so in frustration, now a year later, they're releasing this videotape on their family website and just basically hoping that whoever is holding him will hear this, listen to them, and tell the family what they want. that's the main thing, the family feels that they don't know why he's being held or what the group or person, individuals, whoever it is, wants. >> any indication, jill, that the government knows if the family doesn't know, does the administration -- this has been a priority -- any idea where he is and what might gain his release? >> reporter: john, right from the beginning, this has been a troubling and very kind of murky case. nobody seems to know where he is. some people believe that he is in iran in spite of the fact that the iranian government has no idea and they're not holding him. others believe he might be in the third country. i don't think you can say anybody really, least if they're saying, definitively knows where he is. >> jill dougherty, thank you. if you've been watching the markets in recent weeks you've seen ups and downs, a lot because of volatility, europe's debt crisis. today a big step designed to bring a solution. but one country had big objections. much more on that, next.s , so . so, kathryn, post more youtube videos of your baby acting adorable. baby. on it. matt, ignore me and keep updating your fantasy team. huh? 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because the other countries are going to go ahead with reforming the euro anyway. and it is 26 against 1. and, john, vie to tell you, tonight just walking around this room earlier, which was full of journalists from all the other european countries, who, frankly, have had enough of britain's dog in the manger always complain, never going along with it, attitude and policies. so here there is a certain amount of, to use that phrase, the fact that britain is on their own and seemingly out of favor. >> and so help the average american family sitting around the dinner table watching this conversation say, that's across the pond, why do i care? >> reporter: they care very clearly if they are in manufacturing around that dinner table, they will be sending goods and services to the european union. if they are in any form of banking, they will have been seeing investments in the european union. if they have an i.r.a. or 401(k) they are invested or part are invested in companies that trade or do business or are in the european union. these days, the 3,000 miles of the atlantic are just about a pinprick wide and anybody that doesn't see european union as one of the single biggest trading partners for the united states, that is the significance, john. it remains that case. and that is why geithner was in europe, that is why secretary of state clinton spoke about the deal, and it is why the white house has welcomed today the announcement of this bailout fund and the new deal for the euro. >> richard quest, as always, many thanks. let's look closely at this deal what it means for us in the united states. in new york, krista freeland. let's pick up where richard left off. an american watching this tone at dinner table, he says he talks about the interrelation of the economy. the markets like this today up nearly 200 points, the dow was, the other markets, s&p, nasdaq up as well. is that because they think it's a done deal or that is a one-day blip? >> i think it's actually neither, john. i don't think that anyone, you know, even the most fervent european patriot thinks that everything is now absolutely fine with europe. but i do think that this is more than a one-day wonder. this is really important progress towards both europe solving its economic problems and europe solving its political problems. and crucially what it does, the germans are the key to all of this and they have been very reluctant, you know, to promise to sort of guarantee the debts of the weaker european economies unless they have some confidence that going forward there would be more budgetary discipline in the rest of europe. and that's really what this deal promises. the rest of europe effectively saying to germans, please promise to pay our debts and we promise we'll stop spending so much. >> and so does it put any pressure on the political system here in the united states? do the president and the republicans in congress need to get more serious? maybe we should pick them up and sent them to brussels for a meet z ing. >> or ask merkel to come over here. it's a victory for her and for the u.s. economy. we have started to see green chutes here and the economy starting to recover. one thing that a lot of people feel could knock the u.s. off course would be in you had real disaster in europe. the other people who, i think, are celebrating today are bankers. bankers both in london and in new york. because one of the big reasons why britain said no, we're not going to do this, is their fear the europeans would impose this robin hood tax on financial transactions. and i think britain's saying no could have a knock-on effect on the u.s. where that tax has been debated, too. if london doesn't do it, it's much harder for new york to do it. >> does washington have to follow suit here with a serious deficit reduction plan? problem say they're a flashing warning sign. >> yeah, absolutely. i think that example is going to be important. on the other hand, john, i think we -- there is still a fear and i think that it's a real one that the kind of alwausterity t germany's trying to impose on europe it will help avert financial disaster, could also mean that growth is pretty slow. so i think that the jury's still out on that one. >> growth versus deficit reduction, that conversation will continue. thanks for coming in tone? next, has nasa discovered signs of water on mars? if so, what does that mean for potential life on planet? some answers after the break. the employee of the month isss... the new spark card from capital one. spark miles gives me the most rewards of any small business credit card. the spark card earns double miles... so we really had to up our game. with spark, the boss earns double miles on every purchase, every day. that's setting the bar pretty high. owning my own business has never been more rewarding. coming through! 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do you say, yes, definitely water? >> there are possible exotic physical situations where you could deposit gypsum under the circumstances but, yeah, it's pretty bulletproof. i think calling it a slam dunk observation is very good. i've seen some of the evidence a little bit, not the physical stuff, but i've read about it, based on the scientific observations that i've seen, it's solid. >> so, explain to somebody watching at home, looking at these pictures and say, so this rover comes upon, knit this crater, everything's dry, everything's dusty. you're telling me there's water. how do you get there? >> well, when you have calcium and and sulfur in these concentrations that they found, it's basically this gypsum stuff. here on earth it's common, it's a soft, powdery thing, knit sheet rock, in tofu, it's in home-brewed beer. it shows up when there is water and it's slslowly deposited ove and the water dries leaving the gypsum in place. >> i'm not sure i wanted to learn the stuff in my walls is also in my beer. >> my pleasure. >> if there's water, is there necessarily -- was there necessarily life? >> what a great question. everyw everywhere on earth where we found water sitting around for long periods of time we've found life. it's hard to say for sure. there is a spacecraft on its way to mars now, it's called curiosity rover and in eight months it will land with most sophisticated scientistic equipen on the surface of mars and hopefully we'll get more concrete evidence from that in a very short time. >> help me with the difference in technology. i was amazed reading about the story the opportunity had been no operation for eight years. people criticize how much money, what value we get from them. it's amazing this thing has been looking for evidence for eight years. if that's been there for eight years and ending something new, we maybe leaps and bounds, how much more advanced will the new research be? >> i can give a brief analogy. the opportunity rover is maybe the size of a big coffee table. it's gone maybe 20 miles over 7 1/2 years. it was only supposed to be there for three months and working properly. the new rover is the size of an suv, it has a dozen scientific instruments. it's so big you have to lower it on to the surface of mars from a crane, operating from a hovering spacecraft, as it lands as opposed to just landing on the surface, bouncing on balloons. the opportunity to gain new information is significant an increase as what your cell phone was eight, nine years ago as it is today. >> how do you go about the question and answer process to find out if that's also the case on mars? 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our cnn contributor, eric erickson is with us tonight, with me in washington, perry adviser, liz mayer and blogger tara wall. er eric, he's drawing sharper contrast. that is the right strategy in iowa? >> i think he has to. he's had the luxury of sitting back and letting the other candidates fight it out, let them implode on their own. four weeks left -- less than four weeks before the iowa caucuses. we've got christmas and new year's, so there aren't a lot of people paying attention. he's got to step up the attacks. gingrich is the only guy in sharp enough leads in iowa, south carolina, florida, now michigan, which shoulding romney home turf, and he's closing in new hampshire, no one else has ever done that. he's got to start throwing some punches. >> it's not just romney himself, ladies. restore america, superpac supports him. they seem to always mirror exactly what the campaign wants the message to be, the superpac has this ad up hitting newt pretty hard. >> why? newt has a ton of baggage like the fact that gingrich was fined $300,000 for ethics violations or that he took at least $1.6 million from freddie mac just before it helped cause the economic meltdown. >> liz, is this going to work? normally in a campaign you'd say that's pretty hard. have people digested and processed this? >> i think that when asking the question, is it going to work, there are two questions in there. is it going to work in terms of putting romney in a position where he's able to prevail? obviously, attract more support? no, i don't think it is. if you look at the poll, mitt romney has failed consistently to attract more than 20%, 25% of republican electorate. people are not comfortable with him. there's the flip-flopper charge, charges just generally to do with his consistency and his record and i think that's a problem when you look at things like the individual mandate for republican primary voter. when you look at gingrich, it's entirely possible that what romney is doing is going to bring down his numbers. i think probably it is going to contribute to that. and as to your question, do people know newt gingrich, yeah, he's been around for a long time. but in that time he's also amassed a very problematic record. and you can see that with things like the ad that the perry campaign has that hits mitt romney and newt gingrich on their support for the individual mandate. that's something that republican primary voters are not going to be comfortable with and it's going to be a problem for both of them. >> one more quick thing before i bring you into the conversation. the tea party was the rising force, we were saying, wow, the tea party, two leading conditions, mitt romney and newt gingrich, not exactly guys you view as grassroots tea party guys. listen to rand paul, he's conflicted, his father's ron paul, father's running for president. rand paul is a tea party favorite. listen to what he thinks. >> newt gingrich was a big champion of the bank bailouts, so i don't know how he can be considers a conversation or appeal to tea party voters. i don't just know how once people get to know who he is and what he supported i don't know how the tea party could support him. >> might that be more effective, again, i know his dad's running for president, but could that be more effective at the groos rass level than anything governor romney for governor perry could say? >> i think it's great, actually to see all of these candidates di di diving, starting to talk about the issues. the fear is attacking attention off of the real candidate, who the event actual candidate will be on the democratic side. there are valid points to be made. i think for newt gingrich he is for some conservatives, he is the kind of tea party condition, outsider, the nonestablishment type versus mitt romney who conservatives still see as that establishment type, as you mentioned his numbers are down considerably still among republicans. so i think that having kind of the outsider's view is a good thing for -- for newt gingrich, not necessarily for mitt romney. i think the -- we may get to this, but perry's the outside that people are starting to look at. that's why his numbers are starting to go up. people are forgetting about the fact that when you want to talk about conservatism or conservative value, if you will, many bloggers, on the blogger side, validate what i have been thinking and in nro poll of conservative bloggers favor perry and newt as opposed to paul and romney. >> paierry the conservative favorite when he got into the race. he had bad debate perform 's and said other things. he's trying to rebuild, starting in iowa. and one of his appeals is -- it's more of a niche than you expect, a broad based candidate but he has to start to rebuild. he's made a sharp evangelical appeal in advertising. this came up today. the questions back and forth whether why was he putting so much emphasis on the role of faith in his public life. let's listen to some of this. >> if americans want to elect a president who basically says, look, i'm not going to -- i'm not going to let my faith inconvenient in anything that i do and would be a bit, from my perspective, a bit scary. i want a president who is faithful and that believes that there is a greater being who has an impact every day in this world. >> now there are a lot of liberal whose say my go -- i shun say god, he's talking about god. out in the country most americans would be perfectly comfortable with what he just said. it's when you move to the issue. what does he want to do? his stumbles have to do with policy questions and bad debate performances. in terms of the can he become -- everyone's trying to do what hu. come from nowhere. rick perry's numbers are going up. >> i think r there are a few things important to bear in mind here. one, as you eluded to rick perry is the only candidate in this race that can unite conservatives. that's a big chunk of the party, especially when you look at what voters are concerned about at the moment. a lot is economic issues that ties in with fiscal and tea party concerns. point number one. point number two it's important to bear in mind what's going on on the ground in iowa right now. we have a very strong iowa organization. we've got a lot of paid staff in the state and a lot of people active on the ground working with grassroots and we have a bunch of volunteers going into the state. i question whether other candidates have that level of organization. the final thing is money. at the end of the day, rick perry is an extremely good fund-raiser. >> for a lot of folks he's a threefer. one thing about romney whether you like him or not, he has to be careful when he does go after newt with that area of hip pock see if if you will. when you talk about flip flopping, he has to be careful with that pot calling the kettle situation. a lot of folks like him because of his business acumen. people like those two for different reasons. for perry it's a three-fer people get. in iowa he'll do better than you think. >> on that point, eric, how well does he have to do for people to say he's viable to keep going? because he was so high, and if he comes in low a lot of people will write him off. >> i think they will. i think he really probably needs to be in the top three. i hear some people say he needs to be in the top five. i think he needs to be one of the top three people in iowa. he needs to be competitive. if he's in the top four, very close to mitt romney. again, iowa is kind of this wild anomaly that we start the race with. i can't understand why the democrats and republicans keep starting their primary season and caucus season with iowa, but they're all going to bounce into south carolina and florida. the problem with perry's campaign and the reason he needs to do well in iowa is because he sunk so low in florida. he's still doing well in south carolina. he's third place in south carolina according to most of the polls. >> all right. so eric mentioned the influence of iowa. i want to show you something before we take a quick break because this comes up in iowa. a little poker match here. i want to go back. this is the new hampshire democratic race in 2004. before ohio leading in the new hampshire polls, howard dean, and then wes clark and john kerry strugged in third place. that was before iowa. kerry surprises and wins iowa. reshuffles the deck in new hampshire. remember, the polls don't matter so much. let's look at the republican race last time. this is in new hampshire, leading in new hampshire just before iowa voted, romney was way ahead and mccain 12 points back and then mike huckabee surprises everybody and wins ohio. what happens in new hampshire? john mccain comes back and mitt romney fades and the rest is history. watch iowa. you can look at the new hampshire polls now and look at the south carolina polls now and look at florida and beyond if you will. this deck will be reshuffled after iowa votes a little more than three weeks away. up next is the truth ponders whether you vote at the bookstore sort of. daddy, come in the water! somebody didn't book with travelocity, with 24/7 customer support to help move them to the pool daddy promised! look at me, i'm swimming! somebody, get her a pony! [ female announcer ] the travelocity guarantee. from the price to the room to the trip you'll never roam alone. running for president pays nothing, unless you happen to be trying to sell a book and yourself at the same time. like newt gingrich. his one public event today was a book signing in washington, d.c. the bookstore said it was canceled because of security concerns. look here. you see newt gingrich signing books in naples florida. about 700 booking sold that day. the former speaker is the only author candidate. before he suspended his campaign, herman cain raised a lot of eyebrows by skcheduling book signings in texas but avoiding places like iowa and new hampshire. michele bachmann mentions her new book in every media interview and book signings in south carolina very common on her daily schedule. here's tonight's truth. there's nothing illegal or unethical about any of this as long as campaign finance rules are followed. to me it seems unpresidential. i have nothing against books or making a buck. one way we learn about public figures is when they write about their lives and positions. if those books sell, the author deserve the profits. asking for votes and a few bucks within a few hours, sometimes within a few minutes doesn't feel right. truth is while i may not like it, it's a growing trend and a bipartisan one. president obama is a millionaire because his books were such a big hit, and like gingrich, cain and bachmann, this cycle and senator obama made a name for himself in the last cycle by using book signings to promote his political activities and vice versa. senator obama's first trip to new hampshire -- there it is right there. december 2006 in portssmith. there was a long and enthusiastic line at the book event. in case you think it was just about book sales, nope, it was paired with this trademark stop at a local coffee shop. an early stop on the process of selling himself. call it the awe das city of political capitalism. i guess we better get used to it. eric, i'll go to you first in the group tonight. this is unavoidable, i guess. is it a good thing or bad thing? >> you know, i'm rather indifferent to it. my parent company published a lot of books. most of the times the books are garbage. the only one i read that was substantive was rick perry's because he wrote it when he wasn't planning on running for president. they fly all over country and off-load costs to customers so their campaign is not footing the bill. i don't read them. they're a waste of time. >> either you of writing a book and planning to run for president? >> no comnt
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