those who know me know i'm not a forgiven person and john fugelsang is with us, political comedian and will cain, columnist at theblaze.com. our starting point this morning is new information to tell you about that puts a new twist on the trayvon martin case. abc news is reporting the lead homicide detective investigating the shooting wanted to file manslaughter charges against george zimmerman from day one but sources tell abc news the state's attorney's office says there was not enough evidence to make an arrest and this revolution is coming the day trayvon's parents were in washington, d.c., demanding justice for their son. listen. >> trayvon was our son, but trayvon is your son. >> that's right. >> a lot of people can relate to our situation, taken breaks their heart, just like it breaks mine. >> joining us this morning, trayvon's parents, tracy martin and sabrina fulton along with attorney breenjamin crump and crystal high, going to be honoring trayvon tonight. i want to talk to sabrina and tracy. it's been a month now, how are you doing? >> i'm taking one day at a time. i have strong faith in god and i know that everything is going to be fine. it's just like trying times right now and it still hurts us. we still cry. we're praying a lot and a lot of people are praying for us, so that helps a lot. >> i'm sure a lot of people are praying for you. as you were talking bishop jakes was nodding his head yes, that you're praying and that's holding to you together. tracy, an abc report of an investigator who right after the shooting felt that george zimmerman should be arrested and should be charged with manslaught manslaughter. he was overruled by the state's attorney what shade not to charge him, there wasn't enough evidence. what do you make of that report, sir? >> it's obvious that the investigator who's experienced in what he does saw fit that an arrest needed to be made, and to hear that the state attorney's office said that there was not enough evidence is just heart wrenching. because that lets me know from the outset that something wasn't right about the investigation. >> you have met with the special prosecutor, angela corey. she's been trying to answer all the questions that you have as she's spent the last couple of days trying to get her team to look closely at every aspect of this investigation. what kinds of questions have you had for her? what do you want her to explain to you? >> why was our son gunned down. why wasn't this individual arrested. why was evidence not processed? why wasn't the right thing done from the beginning in this case. >> and why do you think, what is the answer to those questions? why do you think in your mind the right thing hasn't been done? >> i really don't know. i really don't know what ties zimmerman has to any individual. all i know is that my son was carried away in a body bag, and zimmerman was left to go and shower and sleep in his bed. >> mr. crump, if i can ask you some questions as you've been discussing over the last day or so, some information has been leaked about trayvon's school record, his suspensions, things like that, of course those things are protected by federal and state law because trayvon was a minor. who do you believe is leaking this information and to what end? >> whoever is leaking it, it is a smear attempt, to get us off focus, to demonize and blame the victim, soledad. the real issue here is george zimmerman, an armed vigilante disobeyed the police that night, and starting to pursue trayvon to have this what we now know fatal encounter, and that is the important thing. nothing matters, but what happened on february 26th, we know trayvon was never arrested, never suspended for anything violent and never been suspended for anything criminal. if he experimented with marijuana with his friends, even that there, is irrelevant, and it is just the police trying to make him look bad. they say oh, don't listen to what zimmerman did. forget that 911 tape. forget he disobeyed us, and this armed vigilante can't get away with this. what necessariage does that send to the world. >> do you think race in your mind was a factor, no doubt to you? >> well, i certainly think when you listen to the 911 tapes, that's why he was suspicious to zimmerman. now why the police, ask the higher ups accept his story above tray skrvon and not do a background check, not a drug and alcohol analysis on a person who just killed a kid who was unarmed, and don't do a background and drug and alcohol analysis, and do that on the kid, it doesn't add up. that's why people are outraged and people are rallying saying enough is enough. how long is it going to take before he's just arrested. we're not asking for an eye for an eye. we want him arrested and equal justice under the law. we don't want no more, no less. >> i talked to a guy yesterday on the show, joe oliver and he described himself as a friend of george zimmerman's and he's african, he's like i fully get the conversations that are happening around race in this story, but in his mind this had nothing to do with race. i'll play a little bit of our interview for you that we had yesterday. >> i understand completely the furor and anger that's out there over this case. if i didn't know george zimmerman i'd be right out there, too, but i do know george and i do know the portrayal that young black men have had. i experienced th ed thad that g. i get that. i understand that. but in this one spark incident, that wasn't the case. race had nothing to do with it. >> tracy, do you believe in your mind that race had everything to do with this case? >> i believe so, and it's just amazing to me how zimmerman's friend can go on not knowing my son, not knowing the circumstances. if he listened to the 911 tape, it clearly states that zimmerman was profiling my son. so for this individual to go on and say that george was not a racist, maybe he wasn't a racist to him while they sat around and talked, but clearly on the tape he was profiling my son, and that leads me to believe that he in fact was a racist. >> sabrina, i'm going to ask you a question that is really a terrible thing i think to have to ask a mother but i know you got trayvon's body back and that he's been buried and a lot of the conversation was about injuries to george zimmerman, bruises that he had, broken nose, that he had cuts and lacerations that he had. tell me about the injuries that trayvon had. did it look like he had been the victim of a beating in some way? >> i couldn't absolutely tell that, because it was difficult for me to see my son's dead body. when i did see him, it was after he was fixed up, so i did not see him prior to him being handled by the funeral home. i have no confidence that my son chased this guy. i really blee that this guy chased my son and my son was protecting himself. my son was exercising his stand your ground rule. >> what do you think, tracy, that ultimately justice looks like? is it the arrest? is it a conviction? is it people having a conversation? the story has gotten much bigger than literally about your son. it's also sort of about black young men and how they're treated by the police in this country as a hole. what is justice? >> to me justice would be starting with an arrest, then with the conviction, and then being sentenced to, for the crime that he has committed, a crime has been committed here. everyone's trying to turn the focus off of george zimmerman and trying to make george zimmerman become the victim, when in fact trayvon is the victim. trayvon's family is the victim. we have a dead 17-year-old son that life will never be replaced, and you have these people out trying to make zimmerman as to be the victim. >> crystal i'll give you the last question. politics365 is honoring trayvon for being a game changer, an agent of social change. how do you think that people harness the anger, the energy of all the marches and all the conversations and turn that into something that's productive and positive out of this young man's life and it doesn't fester and become something who areible? >> i think it starts with recognizing how game changing this experience actually is. we face a paradox in this country, when it comes to young people and people of color, whereas you know, on one hand we face these high unemployment rates and undereducation rates and end up on the wrong side of the health care and digital divide and you think about the stellar leadership in our communities, look the the work of folks like marc morial with the national urban league or at&t's tanya lombard. uplifting trayvon's name, making sure we recognize that he stands at the pin icica icanacle of whs to be a young person of color, vibrant, full of life, so much promise, so much potential and also represents the pitfalls of being a young person of color, and so i think that recognizing his legacy, his potential, who he could have been, what hes aspired to be and taking this energy, taking some of theening aer, taking some of the frustration and channelling that in a way that lets people say hey, he is our arab spring. trayvon martin is our call to action. let's not have violence beget more violence but take protective measures of where we want to see our communities go. let's go to the hill. let's go to our local community leaders. let's go to state legislatures. let's get civically engaged in a way that's positive and continue to drive change in a progressive manner. kristah lie, editor-in-chief of politics365, benjamin crump, representing the family and sybrina fulton and tracy martin, trayvon's parents thank you for being with us. >> thank you. coming up the congressional forum that trayvon's parents attended. we'll talk to congressman maxine waters and congressman emanuel cleaver straight ahead. tomorrow we'll have -- a town hall, shooting it tomorrow and watch it friday night at 8:00 p.m. and 10:00 p.m. eastern time "beyond trayvon." if you'd like to register to join the audience, you can do so on our website until 9:00 a.m. we'll talk to t.d. jakes, the bishop is here because all of the questions bring up the issue of forgiveness. i don't know how, you hear the pain in every word the parents say. how do you move on? how does a community move on? is it even possible. all that is straight ahead. first to headlines and christine romans has has for us. >> good morning, soledad. some terrifying moments on a jetblue plane. >> take it down! >> a pilot put in a choke hold, restrained by passengers on a trip from new york to las vegas. the pilot, after he suffered an apparent mental breakdown in the middle of a flight. you can hear him ranting about the middle east and a bomb and the plane going down, all on this video here. that's when a group of passengers who were on their way by the way to a security conference, jumped into action. >> i saw about two or three guys right next to him jump up and another four guys rush right past him towards the front of the plane. >> started to curse at me, hey, you better pray, iraq and iran, and so i said you know what? i'm going to show you what iraq and iran is, and i took him in a choke hold. >> take a look at the images the pilot being wheeled off that plane, restrained and in a stretcher, before he was taken away in an ambulance. the co-pilot quick thinking somehow got him out of the cockpit, locked the door behind him so he could not get in the cockpit again. newt gingrich playing off about a third of his staff, cutting back his campaign appearances. he says it's a change in strategy to make it to the gop convention in tampa, but it is fueling speculation this morning he may be dropping out of the race, and that's what a majority of republican voters want to see. a new cnn/orc poll says 60% of them say the former speaker should get out of the race now. coming up, soledad will talk to gingrich communications director joe desantis about the new development of the gingrich campaign. gas prices rising for 19 days in a row, national average $3.91 a gallon, up 17 cents just this month according to aaa. more than half of you traveling americans out there say if gas prices rise at least another 26 cents you're going to be making changes to your summer vacation plans this year because of the high cost. get out your dollar bills, the mega millions jackpot bigger than ever. no one picked the winners in last night's drawing for $363 million. so the jackpot goes up to $476 million for friday. that would be the largest lottery jackpot in u.s. history. soledad i put in ten bucks with dean and the floor crew but i also have the statistic for you, you are 18 to 120 times more likely to die from a flesh eating bacteria than win the lotte lottery. it's a $10 risk i'm willing to take. >> if i win i'm like pack up my stuff and send it home. still ahead on "starting point," forget high school, forget your golden years, what age are we the happiest? there's a new study that has the magic number. i'll take a poll of the panelists and see if they agree. final day of arguments over the president's health care law. we'll talk to senator jack reed straight ahead, a democrat who helped craft the law along with jeff toobin who yesterday was calling the thing a train wreck. we'll leave with you senator reed's playlist, a suggestion from his daughter emily, it's hannah montana so again a suggestion from his daughter's emily. best of both worlds. i think that's the theme song from "the hannah montana show." you know who you are. you can part a crowd, without saying a word. you have yet to master the quiet sneeze. you stash tissues like a squirrel stashes nuts. well, muddlers, muddle no more. try zyrtec®. it gives you powerful allergy relief. and zyrtec® is different than claritin® because zyrtec® starts working at hour 1 on the first day you take it. claritin® doesn't start working until hour 3. zyrtec®. love the air. ♪ what on earth do you think you are ♪ ♪ a superstar, well, right you are ♪ ♪ well, we all shine on ♪ at the moon and the stars and the sun ♪ that's u2's cover of "instand karma" off john's playlist. >> hannah montana and darfur. was it a train wreck for the oba obama, and it looks like the fate of the individual mandate could be in jeopardy. justices offered sharply divided views on the federal health care reform bill. perhaps what is most telling so far is justice kennedy expressing skepticism on the mandate's constitutionality. >> and here the government is saying that the federal government has a duty to tell the individual citizen that it must act, and that is different from what we have in previous cases. that changes the relationship of the federal government to the individual in a very fundamental way. >> today will be arguments in the final two issues of the case, whether they can extend medicaid to a larger pool and if the mandate is found unconstitutional, can the rest of the law survive? joining to us talk about that, senator jack reed, democrat from rhode island and member of the committee which crafted the health care law and cnn's senior legal analyst jeff toobin. we'll start with you, senator reed if we can. you heard jeff toobin describe this as a train wreck. would you say that's how it's gone so far, sir? >> not really. i think what yesterday demonstrated serious, hard questions to be asked, not unusual, typical on the supreme court argument. the real discussions i believe begin once the lawyers leave and the judges in their conference begin to talk about the law. i think they understand its historic importance of this case and i think they also understand the realities of this case. health care is 17% of our gdp. it's 60% of bankruptcies have a major factor of health care cost. so i think they are looking for a way to sustain this legislation, not to strike it down. and i think also, too, they have to be conscious of what they might be doing in the future. there are people from generations who have spoken about medicare as being in position of a tax for health care i don't want or don't need. that will pick up with great fervor if this decision is struck down and i think they have this broad historic cont t contexcontex context. >> when you heard donald varelli stumble, it was a hot mess, i want to play a little bit of the audio from his arguments where he started choking up a little bit. listen. >> insurance has become the predominant means of paying for health care in this country. insurance has become the predominant means of paying for health care in this country, for most americans, for more than 80% of americans, the insurance system does provide effective access. excuse me. >> so he stops to take a drink of water and a couple of minutes in, the other justices start peppering him with questions. is this typical or did it seem to be atypical from what you know, jeff? >> no, it's not typical. it was awful. i mean that thing you quoted was his opening line to the justices, and you know these lawyers, they work for months to gran an opening line, something that will focus the justice's attention and that stumbling opening was how verrilli started and ahem, excuse me, i'm having my own problems here which -- >> oh, judge and be not judged, bishop. >> reporter: exactly, which is a good reason why i should not be solicitor general of the united states, but this is, it was a problem. now, you know i don't want to overstate it. these justices, they know what they think about these issues. the lawyers i think really don't matter all that much, but you know you want to put your best foot forward and they didn't. >> jeff, this is will cain. i want to try to make this clear to the audience what we heard yesterday and see if you agree with me that the justices were constantly asking the solicitor general for a limiting principle, if we allow you to do this what can't do you and scalia and roberts used the example of food and alito used the example of burial insurance and the mistake he made i think is the same mistake that the senator just made, with all due respect essentially responded with a policy argument instead of a legal argument. he never answered the question, where does your power end? >> reporter: well and it was interesting, the person who really took on that question most enthusiasticcally was stephen breyer who in many respects took over the defense of the law from donald verrilli and said look it's up to congress to define the limiting principle. we have political checks. if jack reed's constituents think he's doing a bad job and thinks he's overstating they'll throw him out of office but it's not the supreme court's job to decide what the limits of what congress should do are, and frankly, i thought that was a lot more persuasive than anything donald verrilli said in defense of the law. >> let me ask the question of senate reed. say hypothetically this in fact is struck down. can the bill live without the mandate? that's kind of the direction we're heading now. what happens next? >> i don't assume that's the direction we're heading. i think -- >> i meant in terms of the conversation, not in terms of whether or not it would be struck down, sir. >> again, i think that, i feel that the law will be sustained. i think jeff said it very well, that these judges probably have a pretty good sense of what they're doing. they were pressing for a limiting principle but as jeff said accurately justice breyer pointed out that's sort of almost a case by case basis, based on the legislation. so i think that they're going to give it fair consideration or i'm confident they'll uphold it. i think what they not only decide but what they write in their opinions and probably more than one opinion, will suggest, if there's ways to modify it, if there's ways to make it constitutionally permissible in its case they do strike it down so at this juncture to talk about what's plan b, i think we