blitzer. >> yeah, i'm very sorry about what happened yesterday. it was what i thought something had to be done on the fiscal cliff before the election. apparently nothing has to be done until the first of the year. so i think he should just stick with his position. >> president clinton claims he didn't know it expires after the electi election. rick santorum is resurfacing. the former pennsylvania senator will lay out his plans for the future today. sources say he wants his voice heard as leader of the conservative wing of the gop. he's expected to announce he's ez forming a political committee to give him that vehicle. new developments in the etan patz murder investigation. look at this photo obtained exclusively by cnn. it shows pedro hernandez, the suspect in the 1978 death of the 6-year-old little new york boy, in a suit and tie wearing glasses. investigators have removed a computer hard drive, two satchels and other items from his new jersey home. hernandez who has confessed to strangling pats, has been ordered to undergo a psychiatric determination to determine whether he's competent to stand trial. congratulations, you may now run for cover. students in new jersey had a very special graduation. it looks like a funnel cloud appeared during their ceremony. really amazing is you can see students still walking while the cloud looms in the background. and then, then came the rain and the hail. most people cleared out before things got really bad, though. no one was hurt, obviously. it could be a rough day in the markets today. ben bernanke did not indicate more stimulus was coming during his capitol hill testimony yesterday. so today the markets are expected to open lower. also some concerns about spain and that situation. and now nasdaq, s&p 500 futures are all down. dow futures down 60 points. video game studio founded by former major league pitcher curt schilling goes belly up. 38 studios declared bankruptcy yesterday after it fired all 400 employees and defaulted on a loan payment. they report the company is now under federal investigation. rhode island lured the company to the state with a $75 million taxpayer backed loan back in 2010. >> christine, thank you for that update. a demand to end what is being called a cascade of classified information leaks. it is a bipartisan effort from four top republican and democrats in light of three glaring sxe ining examples of l happening in the past months. back in may, we found out that a u.s. double agent helped foil an airline bomb plot out of yemen. the obama administration is accused of leaking the secrets for political points. the white house flatly denying that after meeting with the director of national intelligence, james clapper, the top republican on the intelligence committee, senator saxby chambliss, remained ambiguous about whether he thinks the leaks are politically motivated. listen. >> we have been through this before. in the bush administration. wherever the responsibility falls out, that's where it is going to be. if it is in the administration, fine. if it is not in the administration, fine. >> this morning we talked to congressman, republican congressman mike rogers of michigan, the chairman of the intelligence committee. democratic congressman dutch ruppersberger is a ranking member of the intelligence committee. they both met with the direct, clapper, yesterday. thank nyce thanks for joining me. i would love for both of you to answer this question, where do you think the leaks are coming from? why don't we start with you first, congressman rogers? >> we don't exactly know. but we do know it is -- someone has committed a crime that is having serious consequences to our national security. what we are doing in a bipartisan way is we need to follow the leads of the investigation to the leaker and make sure that leaker goes to jail. much like what happened with the valerie plame case. someone went to jail over that. this is 100 times the magnitude of that. >> congressman ruppersberger, do you have a sense of where the leaks are coming from? >> first thing, the leaks are very serious and affects our national security and they're wrong. we're going to follow the facts wherever they go. in a bipartisan way, the senate and the house are coming together. we need the administration to work with us in a partnership to find out where the leaks are and how we stop the leaks. and wherever the facts take us, that's where we should go and if someone, whoever did commit these leaks, they should be held accountable. >> but the question i asked was where do you think the leaks are coming from? do you have a gut sense of who is leaking? >> we don't know. that's what investigations are for. these leaks are occurring more and more as we moved on. this is wrong for america. >> do you think this requires an outside investigator, a moment ago we played a little bit of what senator chambliss was saying. what do you think? >> well, you know, we have to ask some hard questions here and i know i've had discussions with senator dianne feinstein about maybe the possibility of a special council, something i think -- >> she thinks no. as i'm sure you're well aware. she says no. >> i don't think it is as definitive of that. part of the reason is you can't have somebody who may have leaked it in the chain of command investigating themselves. that's the one thing we have to come to a conclusion and it should be a bipartisan conclusion if we get there. but the part of the national security team at the department of justice had to recuse itself on one portion of the investigation, not because they were guilty of anything, but because they had access to information. the fbi had some access at very senior levels. the nfc had access at very senior levels. very compartmented programs. it starts to get murky quickly. we need to make sure it is a fair investigation. it is complete, meaning it can go wherever it takes it. it can ask any question to anyone who had access to the information and it has to be bipartisan. that's what we're wrestling with now. >> congressman ruppersberg, let me ask you a question. is it possible the leaks are coming from congress? the other night anderson was talking to congressman peter king and they were speaking specifically about the airline bomb plot. and here what he is he had to say. let's play that first. >> okay, sure. >> it is probably -- it is one of the most tightly eld operations i've seen. i can tell you myself and in other member of congress knew anything about this, including me, until this afternoon and that's unusual. >> how likely do you think, sir, it is a member of congress potentially who is leaking? >> right now we don't have the facts where it is coming from. we're going to find out. but if it is a member of congress, whoever it is, that person will be held accountable. there are two major issues here. the issue of how we're going to stop the leaks, the culture of leaks and the other issue is find out who did leak it with respect to these investigations. and if, in fact, the facts show that we're getting close and there is an individual that purposefully leaked that information, i think we should move forward with the special prosecutor. it is too soon to make that determination. because, remember, a special prosecutor can take years and costs a lot of money and it is going and targeting on an individual to get evidence and elements of a crime. we have a problem here and the most important thing is for our committees to come together, working with the administration, and putting together a team that is going to stop the leaks and that everyone who works in the area of intelligence has the clearances to deal with that needs to know these leaks cannot happen and you're going to be held accountable and go to jail if you do leak. >> how confident are you you'll be able to not only track down the person who is leaking as you point out, but also, i guess, end this culture of leaking as well? >> well, i will tell you this is the first time we have seen such bipartisan effort because of the severity of the pattern of leaks. there wasn't one particular incident. there was a whole slew of incidents. so i do feel confident we will be able to find and prosecute the individual who did it. the trick is how exactly we get there in a way that make people believe it is fair and bipartisan. and we're working through those issues now. >> and i would guess how do you get there in a way that is not only fair and bipartisan, but that you don't reveal more information in a hearing that is supposed to, in fact, be protecting classified information. isn't that one of the worries? >> well, anything we do in the intelligence committee is classified. and can be classified. so anything we would do through an investigation on the committee itself would be classified. anything that special council would do -- >> or the fbi. >> and for the fbi as well because, again, the level of information that -- when you look at the whole pattern, tells you it is someone very senior in the executive branch or could possibly be a member of congress in either committee. but the indicators show that there is a pattern of this activity and it would take -- this will take a pretty full effort to get at it. >> the testimony from yesterday, you had said there was a segment of the media that is a quote from you present in a classified setting. what were you talking about specifically? >> media or medium. i can't get into too many details, but we had in the preliminary review, we had certain things that indicated to us that there was something to this notion that there is a pattern of problem here. and a culture of trying to feed the media things that were classified. that was one example where there was a situation that was classified, that had an individual from the media or medium, different type of medium, in an event that was inappropriate at best and may have violated other rules or laws as well. >> are you talking specifically about documentary producers who are sitting in classified meetings? >> yeah, unfortunately i can't give all the details, but it was significant enough that it raised some concerns. >> gentlemen, mike rogers is a republican from michigan. dutch ruppersberger is a democrat from the state of maryland. nice to have you. i appreciate your time this morning. thanks. attorney general eric holder in testimony got pummeled on capitol hill. frustration over the fast and furious gun running program boiling over. we'll talk this morning to the congressman who was grilling the attorney general. and this man's horse is trying to make history. the owner of i'll have another is going to join us this morning, just one day before the crucial belmont stakes. plus a big get real to the mayor who backed a ban on giant sodas after he made a trip to shake shack. you're watching "starting point." that story is ahead. stay with us. 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you talk to the owner, we'll chat with him later this morning, it seems like anything can happen at the belmont, anything. so who realistically could be a contestant? >> reporter: there will be betting on dullahan. there will be betting on union rags, who was a top 2-year-old, then ran into traffic problems in a lot of races. if he shows his best stuff from last year, he will be a formidable. and then there is bob baffert trained horse called painter. there are other horses. i was here about ten, 11 years ago when serabo won 70-1 knocking off another potential triple crown nominee. so you've got, as one trainer said about this race, anything can happen. the unexpected also. sometimes jockeys, they say, lose this race by when they make their move. some peak too early. some say it happened with real quiet versus victory gallop. i'm sure you remember that. >> right. >> in 1999. >> i do remember that. everybody watches so closely. when there is a chance there will be a triple crown d to say belmont all the time. as we mentioned, we'll have a chance to talk to the man who owns i'll have another, paul reddam will stop by and chat with us. coming up next, the mayor who went from shake shack right to the national soda summit. it is our get real this morning. the team is heading in to talk about that. here is margaret hoover, a vision in red, ron brownstein with us and will cane with us. here is ron's play list. black tees, "gold on the ceiling." people with a machine. what ? 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just a question. >> moderation. it is all about moderation, isn't it? it is absolutely fine to have the whatever that was peanut butter something something, just not every day. >> don't eat the rest of the week. >> as long as you're doing it while on the treadmill, running. a marathon. >> great for mayor nutter here. hypocrisy is one of my least favorite sins, the silliness of the law that offends me, not his hypocrisy. >> there are a lot of shake shacks and mcdonald's and so forth out in the world now. >> doesn't the hypocrisy -- sorry. >> and that's where -- those are more jobs. >> i was going to say, he's the mayor. >> i can understand why he was -- >> economic revitalization in his city. >> one shake shack at a time. >> one shake shack -- one 870 calorie peanut butter shake at a time. >> this is the hypocrisy that points out the silliness of the law. the hypocrisy here is the unforgivable sin because -- >> i'm not sure the law is silly. i'm not sure we're doing anything about obesity by pointing out the hypocrisy because obesity is a big problem and linking back to another cost center, health care. >> should the government be mandating how people eat? 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