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world heard of osama bin laden there was shake omar, a blind egyptian cler irk who was the spiritual leaders of the 1993 world trade center bombers. he was later convicted of plotting to blow up other new york city landmarks and is serving a life sentence in the u.s. but now a surprise development. egypt's first democratically elected president, who will be sworn in tomorrow, is vowing to free him whom he calls a political prisoner. our cnn senior international correspondent, dan rivers, is in cairo. dan, tell us about this speech in general by president-elect mohammad morsi. >> reporter: well, it was here in tahrir square where jubilant followers hanging on his every word. he certainly knew how to work the crowd up into a frenzy. he was talking about the kind of blood of martyrs that have been spilt in thisre and the blooof martyr spilled to get egypt to its first-ever democratically elected president. at one point saying, look, i'm not wearing a bullet proof vest. the only person i fear is god. so that was the kind of tone of it. he tried to include christians and women. but at times it was pretty far ri. and at one point, especially when he mentioned political prisoners in the u.s. and specifically shake omar abdul a cultural figure to say the least. this is the man before osama bin laden was on the scene who was kind of public enemy number one in many ways. he was convicted back in 1993 for planning a sort of urban war of terrorism in which he and his fellow conspirators were going to blow up two bridges in new york, two tunnels, a federal building. they were going to try and assassinate hosni mubarak. he was a pretty full-on terrorist that's now someone they are saying they want to free. now, since that speech people are rolling back saying we just want him extradited back here to serve out his sentence. but nevertheless, it's going to raise some eyebrows in the u.s. >> it definitely will. dan rivers out of cairo tonight. thank you so much. we want to dig a little deeper on this with cnn national security contributor fran townsend. fran, bottom line, the chances even that the u.s. would transfer him to cairo are slim to none, correct? >> zero. there's no possibility. look, in these really big cases where they're terrorism or spy cases, foreign governments make the request. our viewers will remember jonathan pollard. every year it seems israeli leaders ask for his return to israel. he spied against the united states when he was in the navy for israel. the answer is always been no across republican and democrat administrations. and this will be no different. look, the troubling part about this, candy, is that what -- in the speech the president-elect suggested his views were a legitimate political ideology. >> right. he called him a political prisoner. >> exactly. i mean, when you look at that and you take that together with his earlier statements after the election results about wanting to strengthen egypt's relationship with iran, you can understand how there will be grave concerns not only in israel and in the region, but here in the united states about what exactly the views of the president-elect of egypt are going to be. and his relationship with the muslim brotherhood, what that portends for our relationship. >> often when we hear these sorts of speeches, if we put them in a local context, it often makes more sense. in other words, sometimes you say things for the hometown crowd. here is egypt's first democratically elected president. he will be sworn in tomorrow. he gives this speech in a square where freedom literally started for the folks he's talking to. is this perhaps sort of a hometown couple of graphs for morsi? >> candy, there are a lot of policimakers in washington hoping you are exactly right. i think that's fair. look, israel, as i mentioned, israel makes these requests every year. it's a political move. they know the answer is going to be no. and i suspect, i would hope that the president-elect of egypt understands that he can say that in tahrir square and sort of politically whip-up, as dan rivers talked about it, the crowd there for domestic political reasons understanding there is exactly no chance of that transfer taking place. >> what does it say though? what does it bode for the future of u.s.-egyptian relations? a man educated here in the u.s., two american-born children. it sort of sounded like it was a promising beginning. does this kind of shade that a bit? >> well, look, i think you know people in washington who i've spoken with have said you've got to be realistic. as you pointed out, candy, all politics are local. so he's going to be pulled in a direction, a more right wing extremist direction by his own political constituency in egypt. he's going to have to balance that in order to be an effective player on the international political scene. so we're going to have to see how he walks that line. it's true of every politician, american, international, our allies, these are always difficult balancing acts that take place. and we're going to see how he does. this will be new for him however. >> exactly. this is his first rodeo. so we'll see how this all works out. fran townsend, our national security contributor. thanks so much. >> thanks, candy. within the last few minutes cnn has learned that the justice department, as expected, will not prosecute attorney general eric holder, who was found in criminal and civil contempt of congress yesterday in a republican-led vote. the citation stems from a long-running dispute over a failed atf program that allowed guns to go from the u.s. to mexican drug cartels. the house oversight committee accuses holder of withholding documents pertaining to the program known as fast and furious. the matter will still move forward under a congressional civil contempt charge, but that could take years to work its way through the courts. mitt romney is vowing to get rid of obama care despite the supreme court ruling upholding it. but repealing might prove just as hard as passing it was. we're also looking at the clues peppered throughout the ruling that some think point to a dramatic last-minute change of heart. and president obama gets a look at the worst fire in colorado history. so i can get three times the coverage. 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>> obviously has to win the presiden presidency. if he wins the presidency, a possibility republicans did well in congress. but then he's got his republicans' best friend, the filibuster to deal with in the senate. and repealing obama care would be almost as difficult as passing o babama care, right? >> 60 votes. >> so then you move to this procedure known as reconciliation. there is a budgetary device where you can get things through the senate with just a simple majority, 51 votes. and this week just within hours of the supreme court decision, lots of republicans now are gaming out, can we, if romney is president and we take over the senate, can we repeal obama care through reconciliation? there's a big debate about that. >> just defund it? >> that's an option. you can defund it, but then you leave all kinds of pieces. just as when obama was trying to pass the law, the white house had this debate, do we do it with overcoming a filibuster with 60 votes? or do we do it with reconciliation? they decided at least at first to do it with 60 votes because they decided that doing it through reconciliation would create what they called the swiss cheese law. you couldn't do everything you wanted. so it's not as easy for romney to get rid of this thing as he stated in those remarks yesterday. >> and then comes the hard part, replace. >> and that's where the obama team now is coming back with him and saying, okay, if you're getting ready this, put pressure on romney and say what are you replacing it with? >> so far the romney camp has been shy about giving details on that. >> one of the things that interested me in the notes that we saw on the supreme court was justice ginsburg noting that congress' basis for this health care law was mitt romney's health care -- it just seemed like a political -- >> you know, it reminded me both scalia and ginsburg in decisions this week took little shots or at least references as to what's going on in the campaigns. which i don't think there's anything wrong with that. these guys are political actors in a sense and they watch what's going on. scalia and his arizona decent i believe mentioned president obama's recent decision on not deporting certain classes of illegal aliens. and ginsburg talked about how the idea for obama care originated in massachusetts. neither which is factually true. on the other hand thooshe's bei political -- >> a little we get it, folks. >> exactly. >> health care has not been a winning issue for the president. he hasn't talked about it on the campaign trail. is it more of a winning issue now? it's a little bit like he's gotten that good housekeeping seal of approval and maybe people take a second look. >> look, i always think part of the reason the polls are so down on health care is, one, there are a lot of liberals in those polls who wanted his health care law to go further. it's never done well in the polls. and this campaign, they've not really talked about it. his biggest achievement, he's not running on it. but i think a lot of people don't know what it does. the opinion polling on health care is highly sensitive to the data that people have. so perhaps, we'll see now that the supreme court, which still garners a great deal of respect in america has upheld it, we'll see if that affects -- >> new light on it for some people. >> right. >> ryan lizza, thank you. >> thanks, candy. congress gets to work in the nick of time. the vote on lower interest rates that affect millions of student loans. and no shady spot, no snow cone big enough to beat the heat around most of the country where the temperatures are soaring past 100 degrees. 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a burden no other agency or company bears. a 2006 law that drains $5 billion a year from post office revenue while the postal service is forced to overpay billions more into federal accounts. house bill 2309 is not the answer. he's a new hero to some, but now seen as a traitor by others. for the first time ever, supreme court chief justice john roberts sided with the court's entire liberal block yesterday to uphold president obama's health care reform act. and in doing so, he thrust himself into a very hot spotlight. cnn crime and justice correspondent joe johns is here. joe, if you look closely at roberts, there was always some indication that he could be a surprising guy. >> that's true, i think. and it's not entirely a surprise, candy. because roberts was able to preserve some conservative ideas in this ruling while still protecting his legacy on the court. conservatives are still shaking their heads. >> it was really a shock. >> i'm disappointed in their decision. they came to the decision. i respect it. >> reporter: how could one of their own on the supreme court side with liberals on the court to uphold the constitutionality of the democratic president's health care plan? but in many ways it was still a conservative decision. >> this was a conservative judicial philosophy that says the role of the courts is to be the last resort, not the first resort. we only strike something down when it's a big piece of economic regulation if we absolutely have to. that's still quite conservative. >> reporter: this type of thinking shouldn't be a surprise coming from roberts. you need look no further than his confirmation hearings for the evidence. >> judges and justices are servants of the law, not the other way around. judges are like umpires. umpires don't make the rules. they apply them. the role of an umpire and a judge is critical. it makes sure everybody plays by the rules, but it is a limited role. >> reporter: translation, it's not about legislating from the bench. it's about finding a narrow path to deciding cases. not exactly what then-senator obama thought of roberts when he voted against his confirmation back in 2005. >> that he has far more often used his formidable skills on behalf of the strong in opposition to the weak. >> reporter: and as president, obama kept up his criticism calling out the supreme court over the citizens united decision opening the flood gates for outside money into campaigns. >> i don't think american elections should be bankrolled by america's most powerful interests. >> reporter: for roberts, the health care decision is a legacy builder, which helps the credibility of the court without throwing away a policy idea that almost every president has grappled with going all the way back to theodore roosevelt. >> no doubt he voted this way because he believed it. but for him as chief justice and supreme court as a whole, incredibly smart decisio

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