boost from exercise and the endorphins after the exercise. but not during. >> stephanie: walking and hiking and i'm picking up dog poo, i don't know if that's the biggest part of my day. >> your pants aren't tight i couldn't. >> stephanie: yes, well jacki, we'll find some new spinning classes. >> good morning everyone, the crime lynn says that nsa leaker edward snowden has given up on trying to get asylum in russia. he has stranded in the moscow airport for a week now, and the russian president said he would have to stop leaking information. and snowden did not want to comply with his request. so far india has said no, poland has said no the only one so far has not said no is bolivia. he claims that president obama has left him stateless pay no attention that he himself fled the united states. meanwhile, former congresswoman gabby giffords and her husband are keeping up the fight for more gun legislation. especially expanded background checks. >> giffords and kelly are in alaska on the seven-week tour to gain support. she went and shot a gun yesterday for the first time since she was shot in the head in 2010. we're back after the break. >> did anyone tell the pilgrims they should self-deport? >> no, they said "make us a turkey and make it fast". >> (laughter). >> she gets the comedians laughing. >> that's the best! >> that's hilarious. >> ... and the thinkers thinking. in the ten commandments is what you're telling me. >> she's joy behar. >> ya, i consider you jew-talian. >> okay, whatever you want. >> who plays kafka? >> who saw kafka? >> who ever saw kafka? >> (laughter). >> asking the tough questions. >> chris brown, i mean you wouldn't let one of your daughters go out with him. >> absolutely not. >> you would rather deal with ahmadinejad then me? >> absolutely! >> (singing) >> i take lipitor, thats it. >> are you improving your lips? >> (laughter). >> when she's talking, you never know where the conversation is going to go. >> it looks like anthony wiener is throwing his hat in the ring. >> his what in the ring? >> his hat. >> always outspoken, joy behar. >> and the best part is that current will let me say anything. what the hell were they thinking? >> only on current tv. cenk off air alright in 15 minutes we're going to do the young turks! i think the number 1 thing than viewers like about the young turks is that were honest. they know that i'm not bsing them for some hidden agenda, actually supporting one party or the other. when the democrats are wrong, they know i'm going to be the first one to cenk on air>> what's unacceptable is how washington continues to screw the middle class over. cenk off air i don't want the middle class taking the brunt of the spending cuts and all the different programs that wind up hurting the middle class. cenk on air you got to go to the local level, the state level and we have to fight hard to make sure they can't buy our politics anymore. cenk off air and they can question if i'm right about that. but i think the audience gets that, i actually mean it. cenk on air 3 trillion dollars in spending cuts! narrator uniquely progressive and always topical the worlds largest online news show is on current tv. cenk off air and i think the audience gets, "this guys to best of his abilities is trying to look out for us." only on current tv! [ ♪ music ♪ ] >> stephanie: it is "the stephanie miller show," welcome to it, six minutes after the hour 1-800-steph-12 the phone number from anywhere. we have charlie pierce, and dean obeidallah, he wrote a great piece about why we should forgive paula dean. we'll discuss that. jim's as ss is on fire. >> i'm not sure i wanted that to be public knowledge. >> stephanie: he can out sick today. >> he is sick. his ass is sick. >> stephanie: we wish it well, and we wish it a speedy recovery recovery. jumping into the fray. >> yes, a fine ass. [ partridge family music ] >> and your head as well. we went to say your brain. >> i'm not entirely sure how to react to that. >> stephanie: good morning. >> i'm flattered and mortified all at the same time. >> stephanie: yes, well, welcome to "the stephanie miller show." jacki, as i mentioned we're clearly going to the wrong spinning classes. a study confirming women have orgasm during exercise, the exercise is climbing poles and ropes. >> is that an euphemism or actual poles. >> stephanie has not climbed a pole in years. >> stephanie: weight lifting. >> waste lifting? >> stephanie: i'm surprised you haven't exploded why orgasm. so 51.4%, others have reported having an orgasm while waste lifting, yoga and yoga is slitty. walking and hiking. you are talented if you can have an orgasm while walking. i think if you have to pick up poo from your giant dog then it dims your prospects. >> what about if you're chris christie. >> his thighing rubbing together. >> stephanie: he must come bust like a spinal tap drummer. now u jacki. >> gosh, i missed you guys. >> stephanie: i missed you, too, binki. at the top of the hour he reported the latest on snowden. it's hilarious. yesterday we we were saying it was the "he terminal," tom hanks. >> i think it's great. two separate conversations here. there is the conversation about the nsa, surveillance, and what we're doing as a country. that's a totally legitimate conversation we should be having, and then the conversation of how snowden has boxed himself in. >> stephanie: we need a new goldie hawn, something, some remake of what. >> "protocol." >> stephanie: good times," something. >> "the money pit." >> the "money pit" was shelly long. >> her ex-husband was the russian guy. >> that's a stretch. >> stephanie: we're sidetracking from the news. >> he was a conductor. >> yeah, so, he was russian. >> oh, come on. >> stephanie: the latest so what happened. >> come back to us. >> stephanie: yes. >> so the latest the crime lynn said that snowden has has given up because vladimir putin said you got to stop leaking u.s. secrets. >> stephanie: just saying no to kremlin. >> if a guy cheats on his girlfriend and leaves to be with you, you should also know that he's going to cheat on you. that's what is happening here. countries are saying, dude you turned on the u.s. you're going to turn on us. >> stephanie: that was good. >> oh, you cheated on the u.s. you're going to run around on me. >> stephanie: if he tried to go back to the girlfriend. >> the pole dancer. >> stephanie: she would be yeah, talk to the hand. >> wikileaks is now saying it's seeking asylum for snowden in 19 countries, and there is a list of who said what, and the best one so far is bolivia but we haven't gotten that request for asylum. >> stephanie: again, i know we've taken shrapnel from liberals for just saying he's a hero but the other thing the fact that he does not want to stop leaking u.s. secrets? >> he doesn't want to stop. that's fine, we talked about that last week, too. it's fine if he wants to talk about what the u.s. government may be doing within u.s. borders. again, that's a conversation i'm happy to have. but when you run to hong kong and telling them what we're doing as a patriot and to our allies, you don't look like a patriot any more and the fact that he doesn't stop talking it's more about him. >> stephanie: chris doesn't stop talking. >> i can't get the cd in. >> stephanie: he's having a morning. putin said he had to stop leaking secrets if he wanted asylum but snowden had no intention to do so. >> now that he has withdrawn his application indicates he knows he has to stop and he doesn't want to stop. he has given up on putin. >> if he wishes to stay here he has one condition. he must stop his work at aiming to harm our american partners. >> stephanie: why don't i trust anybody here. that putin isn't an agent. >> i don't trust snowden putin the nsa, i don't trust anybody. >> yes, i mean there is really a total credibility gap in a lot of this. the new little development also is that wikileaks which has applied for asylum for snowden in 19 countries say this is an official statement from edward snowden, and a lot of journalists are questioning the authenticity of this, if it was written by snowden or julian assange because the syntax is very european. we don't refer to the united states as plural it has, not have ahave. >> mr. snowden is not our agent. he never was and today is not. our special services have never worked with him and don't work with him. >> stephanie: i was in the kgb. when would i do anything sneaky. >> yes, you can trust putin or not trust him as much as you want but i would incline to not, but at the same time this does not look good for snowden. >> rocky mountain mike said he's going around picking up the luggage carts for the $0.25 rebate. >> there just only so much you can do in the no-man land in moscow airport. how much duty free perfume can you find? >> i think you're going to be likely. you're going to get borst and you're going like it. >> ice chips. >> stephanie: this is from the president. >> there have been high-level discussions with the russians about finding a solution to the problem. >> stephanie: you know, it's interesting, jacki, i don't know if you saw this in the media jacki but there was a whole list of former nsa people who have defected, right? and nsa leaker has been offered sanctuary from putin that he stops his unhealthy habit of talking to the press. and we would no longer embarrass the american community. that may be it. that may be what's happening just tell us. don't leak it to the public. >> everything about this is so shady. do you glen greenwald was on fox. >> yes, i was on fox yesterday morning after all the things he said about fox news. >> stephanie: really. secrets about american intelligence gathering techniques and the methods are less heartening. the story of nsa defector edward lee howard describes a similar ability to adjust. >> inability to adjust? they don't have the freedom we have here. >> stephanie: huh, he suffocated himself with his own car's exhaust. now what jacki, is the next question. >> don't think he thought this through. he was living in hawai'i with his cute girlfriend. >> stephanie: might have googled median questions in iceland. >> yes, it's all kind of a big mess for him at the moment. what's interesting in this letter he calls himself and we don't even know if he wrote this, but he calls himself stateless and compares himself to bradley manning. and he's only stateless because he took off. he stranded himself. i mean, he didn't leak this and then hunker down. he leaked, took off and then made himself the center of attention. you got your passport and then turned against the u.s. >> you say we shouldn't be having these discussions. but there is a piece in why bush and the fourth amendment and why obama has not. we can debate if this is constitutional, and if this is a way we should run our surveillance. >> i think we can have both of these conversations. you're going to ignore human nature and say this isn't a fascinating story? of course it is. it has twists and turns and it's very soap operatic, is that a word welcome it's interesting to see how this will all play out it's a separate story from what he's leaking. oh that sounds awful. >> stephanie: yes. >> that's jim's story. >> stephanie: that's classified, ick. top of the hour, we roll along on "the stephanie miller show." >> announcer: it's "the stephanie miller show." [ ♪ music ♪ ] current tv is the place for true stories. with award winning documentaries that take you inside the headlines. real, gripping, current. documentaries... on current tv. [ ♪ music ♪ ] [ ♪ music ♪ ] [ ♪ music ♪ ] >> stephanie: it is "the stephanie miller show," welcome to it. 23 minutes after the hour. 1-800-steph-12 is the phone number toll-free from anywhere. charlie pierce from esquire.com coming up with great charlie kind of stuff. jim is out sick. i know you might think he's late because of driving in california. we have driving problems. frequently it's a traffic situation which is why we need california gps. >> you know, i want to get to that place that sells mexican style chairs. >> we'll go up to mulholland. >> what, at this time of day? it will be jammed. >> i can recalculate the route so i can take you to sunset and ventura that takes you past that stand that sells fresh tangerines. >> i changed my mind. i want to go to that scented candle shop on melrose. take me to vermont. >> i'm afraid i can't let you do that. >> what are you doing. >> this route is too important for me to allow you to recalculate it dave. >> what? >> davey davey. >> totally not cool. [ car crashing ] >> the californian gps. don't let your gps put you on beverly glen i want to know if you can take pico to the 101 and off to melrose. >> stephanie: we'll be stuck on that all day. thank you rocky mountain mike. we spend most of our time and brain power here in l.a. what, i could have taken pico all along? [ ♪ music ♪ ] >> stephanie: a lot is going on, wow, have you seen a picture of the hot shots the firemen oiy. every single one of them died in this tragedy. they were moving the truck or reposition or something. >> our hearts and prayers go out to the families of the brave firefighters who were out there. >> stephanie: they were struggling for answers after 19 highly trained firefighters were trapped by fire because of wind blowing, the investigators could not figure out why the men were not able to retreat to a safe zone. the fire sparked by lightening on friday raged out of control for a fourth day and described as zero-percent contained even though there were 400 firefighters trying. the firefighters undergo a draining fitness program. the things that they pull over them. >> they're basically fire-retardant tents. they have 30 seconds to get under the thing and close it up. they just didn't have enough time. >> stephanie: so officially there was only one survivor who might have been repositioning equipment. what a tragedy. the president again. >> obama: this is one more reminder that the fact our first responders put their lives on the line every single day and every time we have a community in crisis, a disaster strikes, we've got people in need, firefighters, law enforcement officers, they run towards the danger. >> stephanie: yeah. and the president one more time yesterday. >> and he was in africa saying all this. >> obama: we are heartbroken about what happened. obviously we're prepared to prideprovide any support we can in investigating how this took lace. >> and governor brewer in arizona yesterday. governor brewer yesterday. >> to friends and family of those lost yesterday i know we can never fully repay the sacrifices made by your loved ones. >> stephanie: all right, earl in north carolina, you're on "the stephanie miller show." hi, earl. >> hi, stephanie how are you. >> stephanie: good. go ahead. >> what i have to say is about paula dean. i think people have it a little wrong. it's not what she said, it's how he acted afterwards. no operation was a sniveling crying apology. it makes them look weak. when people started dumping her it was right after that. >> stephanie: it makes you wonder is she crying for herself and her business. then i think didn't on the "today" show she said the word once in her life? that's not believable, particularly in the deposition she admitted to more. >> no, she said only ones. she was accused of saying it more, but she only said once. >> stephanie: does anybody believe she said it only once in her whole life. >> well, being from that part of the country this is another mistake she made. if she had not come up and apologized for her heritage. what she learned as a child was wrong, but to apologize for your heritage, it's the tradition down there. >> stephanie: to use the n-word. >> it was at one point. >> stephanie: let's talk about that. 29 minutes after the hour. we'll be right back on "the stephanie miller show." if you believe in state's rights but still support the drug war you must be high. >> "viewpoint" digs deep into the issues of the day. >> do you think there is any chance we'll ever hear the president even say the word "carbon tax"? >> with an opened mind... >> has the time finally come for real immigration reform? >> ...and a distinctly satirical point of view. >> but you mentioned great leadership so i want to talk about donald rumsfeld. >> (laughter) >> cutting throught the clutter of today's top stories. >> this is the savior of the republican party? i mean really? >> ... with a unique perspective. >> teddy rosevelt was a weak asmatic kid who never played sports until he was a grown up. >> (laughter) >> ... and lots of fancy buzz words. >> family values, speding, liberty, economic freedom, hard-working moms, crushing debt, cute little puppies. if wayne lapierre can make up stuff that sounds logical while making no sense... hey, so can i. once again friends, this is live tv and sometimes these things happen. >> watch the show. >> only on current tv. [ ♪ music ♪ ] [ ♪ music ♪ ] >> stephanie: it is "the stephanie miller show," welcome to it. 34 minutes after the hour. 1-800-steph-12, the phone number toll-free from anywhere. now we've stirred the paula dean buoibase. and here is a caller who said we should forgive paula dean, and this is a guy who has been called a sand n-word, he's arab. >> i grew up where the h n-word was all around me, and you grew up knowing that it was wrong. >> stephanie: i didn't grow up in the south. i grew you have in buffalo new york, and i grew up around two kids whose families regularly used that word. >> i always said as a young person there was always the as much racism in the north as there was in the south. just a different kind. paula dean does not get any kind of a pass no matter what her heritage is. >> everybody has a different bone to pick with her. she has incorporateed black southern cooking and the other legitimate criticism is the kind of food she's pushing without revealing he she had diabetes and planning a deal with a pharmaceutical company. >> she was trying to atone for her sins. the bookshelves trying to public before her publisher dumped her. she was rewriting her old recipes, making them healthier so there is that. >> stephanie: yes, i've talked about that before, growing up in the 70s there were definitely kids i went to school with in the north. we didn't in our house, and we knew, just as kathy in colorado was saying, we knew it was intrinsically wrong. we didn't use that word. >> my high school graduation after party was held in virginia, and the black people and the jewish people in my class were not allowed to attend because the club did not allow-- >> stephanie: the buffalo country club that we belonged to, no blacks or jews, i was a kid, i didn't understand that. >> i had no idea that that went on in 1987, that floored me. >> stephanie: i had a friend when went, blrp-blrp. it's the jew radar. my friend had a best all around black, and they didn't know there was anything wrong with it. we'll go to a caller. good morning. >> caller: good morning. you said you wanted to talk about growing newspaper up in the south i grew up in alabama. in my household it was the only good one was a dead one. you're raised that way. but you have to broaden your horizons and broaden your mind to know interest is there is good and bad in every race and every nationality, there is no all-bad, period. >> stephanie: she felt they she had a right to say the n-word and people could decide how they felt about that. she didn't get fired. she walked away from a multi-million dollar contract. >> caller: out here there is what i call it closet racism. we're in the south you do know whether somebody likes you or not, you know for your safety to just stay away. when it's a closet prejudicism you don't know that until they stab you in the back, and that's worse. >> stephanie: i'm ga