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0 we will be donating to our guests. >> america is free. that's it for this special t edition , tucker carlson tonight. we'll be back at eight p.m.will it's the sworn enemy of lines from boston fungus group. this weekend with the ones who upup . welcome to this special edition of "hannity". i'm tammy bruce and for sean. and tonightsp more breaking news out of south texas where the director of the texas department of public safety is in . >> authorities made the wrongho decisiones m when waiting to breach the classroom door of robb elementary o as a gunman went on a deadly rampage. here with the latestt as fox's own jeff paul jeff tambe and the more we learn about this shooting, the harder to get to this community to digesto the minute by minute timeline. what led to 19 students and two teachers being killed o in one o the most glaring new pieces of information that we're receiving deals with the fact that investigators believe kids at the time of k the shooting inside the school were calling 911 one investigators say they were begging operators to send police in to helpp. and investigators say this happened multiple times throughout this entire ordeal. t all ofhi this happening accordig to investigators while thereap are 19 officers huddled upe in the hallway of the school.ha now more and 45 minutes went by before border agents gotfo a master key to open up the classroom door where they then entered and shot and killed a suspect. ion remais the question remains, despite investigators saying that mostst of the shots happened in the first few minutes, how many kids could have beends saved ifd officers had managed to g get inside that classroom earlier? en texast dps says while the incident commander at the time thought there was no longer a threat to the kids and that this mass shooting turned intoshoo barricaded suspt they believe that was not the right call. we were there were kids in the room clearly risk, by the way, even when need to go back to shooting , there may be kids that are injured that may have been shot but injured and it's important for life saving purposes to immediately get there and render-s now what is unclear right now at the moment, tammy, is how many of those students and teachers t who were in that classroom died during that 48 minutes span from when all those officers were in the hallway to the moment they got into that classroom and took down the suspect. >> all ofhat . >> jeff, t thank you so much.h. the entire thing clearly is obscene and those questions make it even just more awful doesn't it's just really unbelievable and inexplicable. so texasin police are underru intensifying scrutiny tonight for their apparent failure to immediatelytiorpp evn after many 911 calls from the building. parents u and all of us rightlyr are demanding answersig and demanding to know why thered was such a delayed response whileel school children were gunned down in cold blood and get this according to a new report, the elite border patrol tactical team that killed the school shooter that was the one that engaged him was initially prevented you guysro from the building by local police that the local policeca kept them from getting into the building at first. now a a full examination of the police response is still ongoing. but earlier todayno governor abbott said he wasr livid about the officers response. >> takeut a look. i was misled. i am livid about what happened. i was on this very stage today i years ago and i w was telling the public information that has been told to me in the room just a few yards behind where we're looking at right now. and when i came out here on this stage and told the public what happened, it was a recitation of what people in room told me, whether it be law enforcement officials are not law me enforcement officials, whatever the case may be and everybody has learned that from the information that i was given turned out in part to be an inaccurate and i'm absolutely livid about that .ho >>ul yes. and he should be .ag the tragedy is also raising questions nowesti about what we can do to better secure our schools to keep kids safe and to harden those soft targets. proposals, of course, include armed school resource officers in every school, single points of entry and school buildingsts and multiple layers of security inside and outside of the building. but amid this sickening and evil massacre, we're also hearing stories of heroism and sacrifice like the story of father jacob elbow elba rato, an off duty border patrol agent who was getting a haircut when his wife, a teacher, texted him ,quote, there's an active shooter help. i love you. he got up from the barber's chair, grabbed the barber'sp, shotgun and headed forld a school. he entered the building. he began clearing roomsin and evacuated his own daughter and other students here now for reaction, national security expert aaron cohen alongity with former d.c. homicide detective and fox news contributor ted williams. know, aaron, let me say i think all of us know even if we're not trained, the instinct is we've seen with some of thesee' parents, including the mother that hopped the fence and ran into that building before it was cleared and rescued her own two childrenn that the law welle the training is that you go in and you don't stop until you get that shooter. what is your take on what you heard today which clearly is very concerninga i think to a lot of people? re well, there's been a very clear active shooter protocol in place since columbine, which is 30 plus years ago, which essentially led the lawh enforcement community to developing a pretty basic but functional active shooter response plan which basicallyly stated that whoever shows up t on the scene and he makes entrye to the school, the law enforcement officers are armed. th typically to what to do what's called forming up into a diamondle . rmation they can get more than two orfi three officers with them atce a time breach or go into the school and then begin to head towards the direction of the fire. the sole purpose is to t neutralize the threat.yo right. you cannot put you can't you can't save somebody on an airplane sitting next to you unless you put your gas mask ore your oxygen mask on . so that's been in place for a very long time. so clearly the protocol with this and i want too be careful not to not to pooh a pooh all of law enforcement across the country because this agency happens to be taking heat right now. i'm veryen pro law enforcement. i've been training law enforcement for almost 20 years and it just seems that for whatever reason this particular agency didn't haven' the appropriate protocols in place or didn't havet the confidence to be able to pull off making entry with a t single two orhr three officers and for whatever reason they bottleneckedte that hallway leads me to believe that they didn't have the stress training to be able to engage that shooter and throw is under duress. what i mean by thatat is there's a massive chemical dome that happens. we go into tunnel vision. we're going to or excuse i froze up. i understand. but that's the training is for. training is to get you used toth an environment. so whether it's adrenaline that gives you amnesia or any other stress hormones don't drop because whether you're taking a test or if you're training for an active shooter - ,you do it over and over in the military over and over and over again. so when you're really doing it, it's it's, you know, normal. you ted, you're capable of functioning on denaturalizes 70% s. so that's the point. and let j me let me just let me just say that we all hear we clearly don't need to reassert our support even though we do every day for law enforcement. i am known for this , ted. you, sir, are every one watching this network but that support ted because werd have standards as a result support law enforcement in the military.. but it als h to be that whenll those standards are breached that we are free to be able tow note when there is a problem. d, i mean, ted, i think that this is what we're dealing with here . it's all we've got to address what happened here because serious and so many people died . you're absolutely right. it must be addressed. and i got to tell you where i would like to start is from a governor who says that he was misled, yet he's not told us who misled him or he is not no headsds of road to this department of justice partment of safety officer who came on the day and said that it was the wrong decision where they decided to hold up and have a barricade rather than to go in . i think what is needed and necessary here is an independent and investigation. t you had 19 angell's 19 angels and you had two teachers to todai as a result of police officers, 19 of them, 19 lawhe enforcement officers around twiddling their fingers instead of going in . and your head brave young girl who was on the telephone on nine one one call and she was trying to get some help. she was saying i need help there are kids in here and theyr are like, please send somebodyy ,please send somebody. and nothing was happening that must be investigated. tammy, you know, even today, erin at the press conference there was an fbi representative there, a fieldn agent who said if we if we find that there is a federal nexus, we will investigate. but clearly either it's the state or ifs the federale government, which certainly they don't have a history ata this point of being really an entity we can trust either. but my goodness, something did happen with, with either leadership or someone else wheny you have this magical decision that no more children are att risk, it's now a different thing that seems like inexplicable. is there any way to explain it is inexplicable and i think that the the, the really important piece of meat to hang on to here is the lack of fundamental response. again, the responder hasli one goal. ngs we've been dealing with this in israel for years. or it a doesn't matter whether it's a terrorist or whether it's an active shooter. >> the motive doesn't matter. the action getse addressed the same way. right. which is to spot the threat, neutralize a threat and sweep here and look foror more threats until that entire u school has been swept and even then the property doesn't get sterilized until a special entry team goes in and methodically opens up every closet. this agency knows that there was a major colossal failure. i to to your other guests point here, i do think it needs to be an independent investigation. i also think that the leadership of this police should take the brunt of the responsibility and i think that would be the right thingoud to do at this point. and let's get some fresh blood in there. and this is a tactical this is a tactical situation here which for every second wasted another innocent person was killed. so that's how long it takes to pull the trigger, erin, which means that these officers need to be flying with the threat. that's it.ying thank that's your job. hi you know, i think we're where this nation also can learn a great deal is from israeli f police, israeli military,ro the israeli approach in dealing with dynamics i think could ling useful.o butha we're going to have tord be looking at this across the board. thank you very much. now in the aftermath of the massacre in texas,ti president biden ison turning his attention to the so-called gun lobby. >> and earlier today said amendment the second watch process when in god'sn name will we do what needs to be done to not completely stop c fundamentally change the amount of the carnage that goes a on in this country? second, that is not absolute. the idea may 18 yeare old kowalke induced by weapons of war designed and marketed to kill is i think is wrong just violates common sense. all right.nd on sunday, the president and first lady will travel to t texas to meet with the families of the victims. and meanwhile, over in washington,ea in far left democg are intensifying their calls for more firearms tearm restrice like massachusetts senator ed markey who says it's time to pack the supreme court to makegu sure that gun controln lawswn aren't struck down. >> take a look. we have to take very seriously the threat which illegitimate far right supreme r court posesn to gun safety in our country. >> we have to expand the supremeth court to get back to twowo stolen seats that the republican donald trump took from the american people so t that we can ensure that when wea put gunun safety laws on the books they are not overridden by the supreme court of the united states. >> shameful that earlier tonight at the nra convention in houston the 44th presidentenr donald trump warned against disarming law abiding citizens and laid out his plan for school safety. >> here it is when joe biden blamed the gun lobby, he wasas talking about americans t like you and along with countless other democrats this week, , he was shamefully suggesting that republicansll are somehow okay with letting school shootings happened and not okay with it. this rhetoric is highly divisive and dangerous and most importantly, it's wrong. hasrt no place in our politics. what we need now is a top to bottom security overhaul at schools all across our country . everyy building should have a single point of entry. there should be strong exterior fencing, metal detectors, and the use of new technology to make surese that no unauthorized individual can ever enterth a school with a weapon. >> all right. well, here for reaction, republican senate candidate in nevada and former attorney general in his state, adam laxalt, along with arizona senate candidate mark radovich ,who is the current attorney general of the grand canyon . ate gentlemen, welcome aboard. letf me start with you, adam, if i could you c when i hear this s what we see this people complain that these things keep happening. there's never any change. part of it is because allr this political rhetoric all the air out of the room. nobody gets to the i suppose more boring solutions like school safety doors hardening those targets and you can't raise money on thate necessarily. money on that necessarily. so we go from one to the other with these and so we go from one to the other with these people who've been in washington fororn 50 years and then they they still complain about it. ee seeenw do t you this playing out when everyone still returns to legislation,gi politics, blaming, et cetera? you know, people want leadership and for president t biden to rushha to the cameras that night without the full information and once again blame one hundred million law abiding gun owners is an absolute disgrace. people want to know why wee dis can't fix these things because washington trots out the same attacks over and over . we looked at this when i was attorney general.ce we met with law enforcementt and the exact same solutions s a are here.e. and todayfe we proposed a few ago every time you see a breakdown of communication, you usually see that the schoold and the local law enforcement did not have proper training.g. they didn't have the shooter response. you don't have single entrance and you need to make sure the door the classroom doors actually closedos. sking for we have been asking for armeder guards in schools for a veryy long time. it's democrats that refuse to allow that . so this is a tired deal and i hope that americans willot reject this because this is notg going to protect our kids. we need real solutions and we need them now. you know, it's understandable. we were understandably emotional. we understand we want major solutions. we want things that are going to make a difference goife. i and yet we do notice that it's almost as though some problems the politicians don't want towa have go away. right. also know that we can havee these ideas, but they also have to be implemented. right. you can throw money at a problem, have these strategies. but if people don't implement them properly, we have any, iss . and if we like with that man that ran from the barbers with the barbours b rifle in order to make a difference, w those would be the guns that would be gone that wen would be relying on just the police. and we've seen in this particular instance what happens when you'reeta relying just on the police with the firearmsrms you have te me all of our hearts broken. wewe saw this story. i know many of us have been praying for comfort for the families and praying for peace in our community and ours world. and i think one of the things we're not talking enough about is what has happened in this country the last 30 years to l this evilness that's kind of perpetuating to younger and younger kids and whether it's the effect of the media or video games, it is having an impact and at the end of the day, the biden administration, the democrats are trying to politicizes a this issue. aws but if more gun laws work, chicago would be the safest city in america. a are and we know that there are places like your previous guest was talking about israel. if you go to places like where i have been the border gaza, every single one of them is that community is armed because of the worry of terrorist attacks. they harden targets and we know here in america we guard our banks, we guard our money, we guard casinos with armed security and yet what are weha doing to our most precious resource, our children? and that's why local communities need to come up with solutions that includeear making sure doors are locked, making sure that we havema the proper security in those classrooms, including police officers. office interesting.l out of a lot ofth people dide pull outf the nra conference and there's a thing called projected identity where one side projectsitere we know about b projection in general but projects an accusation about who someone else is. and if you hear it enough that someone else adopts the false projected identity d and i see conservatives doingoi this on issues of morality, on issues of what who they are and what matters. if you hear your racist long enough, maybe you'll begin to believe it. people pulled out ofth the nra convention when in fact it is american citizens who are members that that's the lobby and it's a continual kind labeling of the average american citizen when this is exactly where we go each time this is a time for courage, not a time to back down. the media when the democrats, when hollywood professional sports franchises, when they go all in on something, you better believe they're wrong on the issue. are voters and americans want us to stand up for them. they are the voiceless. so we went through thiso. with the blm to you know, as ar former t top cop to watch republicans not stand up b against the blm riots to not stand up and defend law enforcement. it w tookee weeks before they thought it was safe enough to go out and defend these institutions. we need people out there today, right now and those that did speak today like senator cruz and president trump, you know, because it'sm the law abiding citizens that deserve to be respected. they deserve to be spoken for and guess in the last few years a lot more people have understood that self defense is paramount in our community and went need more defense for our schools, not less. yes. and we you know, law enforcement to police clearly have been under fire , haveig been denigrated. youca can understand how that's depressing. has an impact on their sense of self and also the desire to become law enforcement. all off this has to change as biden is attacking law enforcement again and as they say they want to take firearms away from law abiding t citizens. everything they do, gentlemen, makes everything worse and this is no different. adam and marc, thank you very much. now while the bush administration is telling you to get an electric car , there are reports that blackouts may be possibleth this summer. we'll tell you a

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