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MSNBC Morning Joe May 22, 2012



side. >> you'll be dialed back. >> dialed back? >> yes. >> it's a full backstroke there. it's like a "back to the future" thing. >> you stop. >> by the way, steve rattner, there's nothing, i think, as invigorating and exciting. it refreshes us and renews us. >> and willie. >> i know willie will agree. there's nothing better than love in the spring, right? >> the best. >> you see a young kid like mark zuckerberg. >> stop it. i don't like what you are saying. >> he put himself out there. getting married. how exciting. >> they have been together a long time. it's sweet. that's all it's about. stop it. >> this guy -- can i get there? >> trying to figure out where we are getting to. >> i don't like this. >> love takes time. so, this story takes time as well because it's about love. so, this guy, willie, we were talking about this. zuckerberg is portrayed in that movie that he did, "the social network" movie as a -- i knew that wasn't him. i knew it wasn't him. "the new york times" suggests this morning and we are deeply offended by this, that mark zuckerberg decided to get married the day after his stock went public because marriage laws do not allow the spouse to make or take money away that one may have earned before they walked down the aisle. so, cynics would say, he decided to get married on the date his net worth was the highest so she could get no money later on. >> some would say you are jealous. >> she's $11 billion down. he's worth -- >> his company. >> he's $11 billion down. >> so he lost $2 billion. $2 billion is not much for you. willie, it's a shrewd move. >> one more day and she's going to leave him. >> you are not cynical? >> cynics would be jealous. jealousy over his money. >> i would never suggest this. >> stop it. >> it was a shrewd move on his part. i'm going to get married the day after i know my net worth will be valued at the highest ever. it was a smart business move. >> yesterday, your theory was he hastily arranged a wedding to cover up things didn't go so wrong. >> it's a better theory. >> i think today's theory is correct. he's shrewder than all of us. there were laughs, scoffs when i was, of course, asked for facebook. i said i think it's going to settle around 28. everybody laughed at me. down to 33 yesterday. dropping faster than the new york yankees. >> don't rub it in. >> by the way -- can i just show you? look at this headline on the post. >> wow. the yankees. they love their yanks. >> big problems. >> huge problems. the yankees are diving, mike. >> back to mark zuckerberg. >> that tax game never applied to me. >> your wife has you on an allowance, mike. >> i don't have the checkbook. i must say, the cynics out there they should know what we all know, you can't put a price on love. mark zuckerberg would never do that. >> he was with that girl for eight years. he actually loves her. >> exactly. he was with her eight years and he chose to walk down the aisle the day after his net worth is at the all-time peak. thank you. this is perry mason. >> that was on to something interesting. >> thank you. making fun of the fact that you are jealous of mark zuckerberg and you found a way to put boobs on the show. >> do not call the yankees boobs. they are a little old. >> hey, why don't you think of the next cover of "time" magazine while you are at it. >> the little engine that could. check the red sox. holy cow. >> we got shut out by the mighty royals. >> we are at the bottom. yet, we will continue to obsess about things, too. >> both in last place. >> the agony of everybody in america. >> facebook, why is it tanking? >> the underwriters made a mistake and priced it too high. this was one of the largest in history. very complicated. nobody knew what the demand was. retail investors want a piece of it. at the end of the day, i think it's clear they pushed too hard for too high of a price. >> 38 bucks. >> yeah. or something like that. maybe lower. what you want is, since they weren't selling that much stock, price it low. trade up. make money and trade like google in 2004. instead, they push for the last dollar. the way it works, they try to support the stock. last week, it did trade at the offering price. the underwriters were buying the stock. then, over the weekend, they say we can't hold back the sea so let's let it find its own level. that's where the level is. >> you should see harold ford's townhouse, stacks of facebook or morgan stanley guys. you know what else is often? when a surrogate goes out and tells the truth about you. >> it's not good. >> no, it's not. >> speaking at a news conference, president obama argued that mitt romney's record as a corporate ceo at bain capital is open to debate. the president says while venture capitalism plays an important role in the economy doesn't necessarily translate to the role of president. >> my view of private equity is that it is -- it is set up to maximize profits. that's not always going to be good for communities or businesses or workers. the reason this is relevant to the campaign is because my opponent, governor romney, his main calling card for why he thinks he should be president is his business experience. when you are president, as opposed to the head of a private equity firm, your job is simply not to maximize profits. your job is to figure out how everybody in the country has a fair shot. if your main argument for how to grow the economy is, i knew how to make a lot of money for investors, then you are missing what this job is about. >> we are going get into how all this started. first of all, fair argument to look at bane. >> i know he's mad at corey booker. they planned a nato conference in his hometown, goes to chicago. they have big thoughts, big ideas, big problems and the first question he's asked in his press conference by the international press corps, about corey booker. >> he's not happy, but is the argument a fair one? >> in his statements, he found the right place to be. i think what he's basically saying, i hope, i think, is that private equity is a legitimate business but it's to maximize profit, not create jobs. >> why do you say you hope? >> it's what i believe. >> you are an obama supporter. booker was speaking to democrats that like this president, right? >> a lot of us share this concern. we are all in favor of questioning romney. have private equity we think is a legitimate business activity. we don't want to see private equity dragged down with it along with mitt romney. they are two separate issues. one is private equity. i would argue it's a legitimate activity. it's focused on creating wealth, not jobs. it's fair, in my opinion, for the president to say mitt romney was engaged in creating wealth, not jobs while at bain capital. that is the argument. >> what his priorities would be. >> phil griffin loved that thing where you were running through the streets, i was passed out. he's been asking us to do something. >> you are not talking reality? >> when you are going to do another promo? it comes when it comes. i can coast another six months. did you see this reel they did on "morning joe"? >> you made an rnc ad, by the way. >> i'm aware of that. >> now they are seizing on what mayor corey booker said on "meet the press" with a campaign called, "i stand with corey." romney is out defending the bain attacks. >> have you had enough of president obama's attacks on free enterprise? his own key supporters have. democrat mayor cory booker of new jersey. >> from a personal level, i'm not about to indict a private equity. former congressman harold ford jr., democrat from tennessee. >> it's not a bad thing. private equity is a good thing. >> former obama economic adviser, steve rattner, a leading democrat. >> i don't think there's anything bain capital did that they need to be embarrassed about. >> very good. we need a little background music. >> hear the eerie music? >> that was scary music. ominous. >> ominous. i'm a scary guy. >> yes, that's always what i think. >> so, cory continues to backtrack and backtrack. >> i'm not sure he did. >> oh, come on. >> he clarified. >> he made a youtube video. you take 30 seconds out of it. >> why do they have allah behind him and a sign with two crosses. >> stop it! stop it! you know he just clarified. willie? >> he was good last night. >> was he? >> he was agitated. he was angry. he was on with rachel. >> did he blame republicans for twisting his words? >> let's watch. >> anybody who watched the entire "meet the press" saw not only was i defending obama on numerous issues, i talked super pac money. my outrage and frustration was about the cynical, negative campaign, the manipulating of the truth. here they are plucking soundbytes out of that interview to manipulate them in a cynical manner and use them for their own purposes. that slogan is really what had me and my entire staff fit to be tied. >> the slogan, i stand with c y cory. he said if you stand with me, come to newark and stand with me, not this one issue on "meet the press." >> picking up garbage, tweeting. >> saving people. standing under windows. >> okay, joe. really. >> tweeting while the baby is coming down. >> you seem face nated with this. it takes one to know one. sometimes things come out of your mouth. >> mike, were the words wretched from their proper context or did cory get busted? >> we're going to show you mayor booker. you tell the truth, you have to backtrack for three or four days in a row. >> you are killing him. >> let's take a look at the polls this morning. >> he's up and coming. >> yes, he is. thank you. >> he really was. >> he is. oh, please. come on. >> i promise you, over the next 48 to 72 hours, he's fighting for his political life. you don't want this -- this view of yourself setting in stone in the middle of a presidential campaign. it's not only the rank and file that are angry with him, it's the people that give money and write checks. he goes on "meet the press," one of the most important political shows. he's on as an obama surrogate. he actually undercuts the central premise of the obama campaign's argument for re-election, why romney is not fit as a president. i'm serious, this is politically a crisis for cory booker. >> i don't disagree. having said that, if you are from newark, if you are impressed with what he's done there -- >> i'm impressed. >> and the money he's brought in. >> he was saying there's a way to point out that mitt romney is not experienced or qualified at creating jobs. that's all he was trying to say. >> i don't think it's what he said. i think he said he was disgusted with people attacking private equity. >> i agree with that. i don't think he wants to see it as a business attack. he's perfectly comfortable at romney's record of creating jobs. >> he compared though, david gregory asked a question about it. he lumped it in. he can't back off that. the attacks against private equity just like republicans using jeremiah wright. >> in doing that, he pointed to an ultimate truth about the campaign. democrats and republicans, he used the word, we have used it before, it is going to be nauseating, back and forth. the attack ads back and forth. it's going to be such a turn off to multiples of people. people will be hoping the world series extends itself so they don't have to pay attention. >> by jumping jeremiah right and bain together, it doesn't make sense. focus on people who don't have jobs. the bain thing doesn't matter to people in the country. i do think, outside washington and outside the donor class, you see him giving credit for speaking the truth and the backlash saying wait, he's getting in trouble for what he believes? he's an independent. maybe in washington, it's a problem. for voters, they learned about who cory booker was on sunday. >> let me say, willie and i said this, i stand with cory. >> we ran out of cigarettes. >> i had some. >> do we all stand with cory? >> i do. >> no. >> i stand with what i said a minute ago. >> do you stand with cory? >> i stand with what i said a minute ago. you are not going to do this to me. >> i knew it. he would be on an rnc ad. >> i stand with what i said a few minutes ago. >> instead of making fun of it because it will come back to bite you in the butt, try to characterize what happened with booker. what was he trying to say about bain and the criticisms about bain and the vampire and the different characterizations that take things too far. >> the good point is, you just brought up vampire. republicans have been doing it, too. newt gingrich did it. rick perry did it. there's been shameless demography with it. i was disgusted with republicans doing it. democrats are disgusted that barack obama is doing it. it comes to the point there are a lot of people, a lot of people that run the democratic party who are concerned about the populous campaign that team obama is running. you voice that. listen, if cory booker wasn't hearing that at every fund-raiser he went to, if he wasn't hearing that from people who run businesses in knnewark,e wouldn't have said that. it is not booker who is alone in the democratic party. it is barack obama and team obama alone among the people who run the democratic party. >> you put your finger on something that is critical here in terms of the back and forth. he's the mayor of newark, new jersey. guess what? the department of agriculture is not going to rebuild newark. it's going to be companies that come in and -- >> invest. >> yes! >> that come in and invest. >> yes. that's what he's talking about. >> he's had a lot of donors from the private equity for the things he's trying to do this. he appreciates the fact that private equity and hedge funds play a roll. >> i saw a string of tweets saying cory booker got x amount of money from bain capital. do these supporters of barack obama want to play this game? barack obama's campaign of hope and change is funded by the very likes of the bain capital people and steve rattner, what is so remarkable to most americans, i think this is a problem for the president. the real problem is, even while he attacks venture capitalists, he's going into their homes every week and raising money from them. it is a -- >> 40 grand a pop. >> 40 grand a pop. he's asking the same people he vilifies during the day to write him $40,000 checks at night. it's not good. >> actually, the same day we had the discussion, he went to the home of tony james and asked for the $40,000 checks. >> wow. that takes a certain level of something that i just don't have. >> right. >> no, i could never do that in a billion years. that's unbelievable. >> steve -- >> you attack him by day and take their money at night. it's like gypsies and thieves. we need to get them raped. >> since i'm not invited to the dinners, what do they say to president obama at the dinners? cool it? >> he has been asked repeatedly, shall we say by the private equity to not attack them. i think his argument is he's not attacking them. he's, again, attacking mitt romney's job creation record. he's trying to do it successfully or unsuccessfully. >> every night the men come and lay their money down. there's a call out to our good friend mark. congratulations on your saturday marriage. $11 billion poorer. >> two. two. >> oh, two billion. coming up, we talk to tom coburn. you want to make everything dirty. you just do. it's awful. also, dr. emanuel and nancy snyderman will join us to talk about two medical stories. the alarming increase of teens with diabetes. we'll get to the stories. plus, eugene robinson joins us. up next, the top stories from the political play book. first, here is bill karins with a check on the forecast. bill? >> a dreary morning. it's still a light drizzle and light rain event. it will last through much of the morning rush hour. it will be slow. on this map, the blue is the drizzle, the green is rain. it's primarily new york city. up to boston is dealing with bet weather. late this afternoon, a thunderstorm or two around pittsburgh and d.c. and baltimore. the majority of the day will be dry. get ready, a hot weekend is headed your way. temperatures in the upper 80s and 90s. the hot weather is around the corner. right now, it's in dallas, denver and phoenix. phoenix, 108. near record heat in the southwest. denver up to 93 degrees today. as i mentioned, a lot of hot weather is going to spread across the country. you are watching "morning joe," brewed by starbucks. 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