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i'm alycia menendez in for nicolle wallace. from the president, a reminder of the stakes in the next election and an existential question, the president asking all americans, who are we? cited valley forge and on the each of the third anniversary of the january 6th attack, the president describing democracy as a sacred cause and the central issue of the 2024 election. >> this is not rhetorical, ak dem academic, or hypothetical, but the democracy's question is the most urgent question of our time. the choice is clear. donald trump's campaign is about him, not america, not you. donald ...

This time. i cannot see how that's positive. >> what does this mean when we talk about accountability? are we closer to accountability today than yesterday? how do you see this in the context of the january 6th investigation? >> i think there's a difference between -- it's amazing for me to look at how donald trump has been making these arguments when you look at the question of presidential immunity and some of his filings in that case versus how the january 6th defendants themselves are sort of speaking about themselves, right. so, in the case with other january 6th defendants, you often hav...

>> you know, i want to tease out something you raised, which is the idea that the president of the united states had to walk step by step through what the ex-president did, he needed to talk about the lawsuits he lost, that he needed to talk about what happened on january 6th. he had to make the case in order to confront the reality that there is a large number of americans who continue to believe donald trump's lies and continue to believe the conspiracies that have swirled around what happened both during the election and on january 6th. >> well, i think what the president understood he need...

That's not typical. it could happen here, but they may get some clues as to what they're focusing on by how they grant in this case. >> ian, talk about donald trump and his team. we often talk about the ways in which he operates, like a mob boss, the way he sends messages, perhaps not directly but through surrogates. the fact that you have alina hava showing up on fox one day saying he's worried the court won't rule in his favor and then another day saying they expect justices like justice kavanagh to, quote, step up. i mean, the subtext seems pretty clear. >> well, it's remarkably poor strate...

Here at home with the rise of terrorism abroad. i know you have been observing this trend, you follow this trend. does rallying people around the cause of democracy work when it comes to fending off authoritarian candidates? >> well, one of the other things that the president said today was he alluded to the idea that we might be in some ways victims of our own success, that because we have been on a path of improving, never perfect, but always in the direction of making a more perfect democracy, and because we are a country that has largely been towards more security, towards more prosperity,...