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grateful to him. and i will continue to try and build on what was achieved. so the theme so far of our conversation is that you care above and beyond anything else about doing your best to help this country meet the environmental challenges it faces ? outside of my family, it's the only thing i care about. the only thing you care about? it's the only thing i care about. well, why on earth did you choose to resign when, in the words of former tory minister, your colleague andrea leadsom, she says, "it is so much easier to throw your toys "out of the pram..." like you did, "and become a protester "than it is actually to stay inside the tent "finding solutions"? because i did four years as a minister, i got an enormous amount done. in the last few months, every day, i'd have discussions with my brilliant officials about how difficult things were getting, and i realised that i was losing the battle on notjust small things, but big things like the 11.6 billion. and i was going to have to stand up in parliament and pretend we're going to hit 11.6, pretend that all those commitments we made to small island states are valid,

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who are most hostile to him, now pretty much across the board accept. so for me — and having put me in a position where i was able to be part of that progress, that story — i feel very grateful to him. and i will continue to try and build on what was achieved. so the theme so far of our conversation is that you care above and beyond anything else about doing your best to help this country meet the environmental challenges it faces ? outside of my family, it's the only thing i care about. the only thing you care about? it's the only thing i care about. well, why on earth did you choose to resign when, in the words of former tory minister, your colleague andrea leadsom, she says, "it is so much easier to throw your toys "out of the pram..." like you did, "and become a protester "than it is actually to stay inside the tent "finding solutions"? because i did four years as a minister, i got an enormous amount done. in the last few months, every day, i'd have discussions with my brilliant officials about how difficult things were getting, and i realised that i was losing the battle on notjust small things, but big things like the 11.6

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than anyone, indeed, all of them put together in parliament. just a quick final thought on borisjohnson, then we'll get back to what you say are the much bigger issues. do you now accept that boris johnson has done enormous damage to the party you are still a member of, the conservative party, and indeed, done enormous damage to the nation? i don't accept that. borisjohnson is a man with numerous flaws and numerous qualities. my view is that we had a big majority, which was secured in a general election that he presided over, and on his watch, the issues that i care about are areas where we made huge progress. there has never been a prime minister in this country who's done more on the environment than borisjohnson. that is simply an objective, observable fact, and that's something which even his enemies, those people who are most hostile to him, now pretty much across the board accept. so for me — and having put me in a position where i was able to be part of that progress, that story — i feel very grateful to him. and i will continue to try and build on what was achieved. so the theme so far of our conversation is that you care above and beyond anything else about doing your best to help this

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tests and investigations take place. we understand that though the asylum seekers on board have used the water suoply, seekers on board have used the water supply, now individuals are presented with symptoms of legionnaires' disease, and asylum seekers have been provided with the appropriate support. also because the samples relate to specific whitley vessel itself, the advice is that the wider local community is not at risk. the home office is now awaiting those follow—up tests being carried out by dorset council's environmental health officers, and the government said they are going above and beyond the uk health and security advice by evacuating everyone temporarily, although no news on when there will be to get back on board. a further blow to the

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there has never been a prime minister in this country who's done more on the environment than borisjohnson. that is simply an objective, observable fact, and that's something which even his enemies, those people who are most hostile to him, now pretty much across the board accept. so for me — and having put me in a position where i was able to be part of that progress, that story — i feel very grateful to him. and i will continue to try and build on what was achieved. so the theme so far of our conversation is that you care above and beyond anything else about doing your best to help this country meet the environmental challenges it faces ? outside of my family, it's the only thing i care about. the only thing you care about? it's the only thing i care about. well, why on earth did you choose to resign when, in the words of former tory minister, your colleague andrea leadsom, she says, "it is so much easier to throw your toys "out of the pram..." like you did, "and become a protester "than it is actually to stay inside the tent "finding solutions"? because i did four years as a minister, i got an enormous amount done. in the last few months, every day, i'd have discussions with my brilliant officials about how difficult things were getting, and i realised that i was losing the battle on notjust small things,

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if you can, bring us all up to speed once again on what we have heard from judge chutkan, what she's laid down so far. >> reporter: well, this hearing isn't over yet. but eaven the things that she's done so far have given limitations to donald trump and made clear that he needs to watch what he says publicly, versus what he's learning behind the scenes as he prepares for trial even though he's a political candidate out there giving speeches and posting on social media. one of the things that she has already said is going to happen is that when donald trump learns any information he didn't know before from witness interviews that the justice department did, sensitive witness interviews, he's not going to be able to disclose that. that's an order from the court. and that is an order from the court that is going to be above and beyond any sort of free speech claims that donald trump may make. the judge here has been quite

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onwards — by the home office on wednesday onwards. so why is there a delay? prison _ onwards. so why is there a delay? prison barges, prison ships are not the way— prison barges, prison ships are not the way forward to deal with refugee processing. what they need to do is deal with— processing. what they need to do is deal with 173,000 backlog in refugee claims _ deal with 173,000 backlog in refugee claims and _ deal with 173,000 backlog in refugee claims and to make sure that they are processed.— claims and to make sure that they are processed. legally speaking, is the government _ are processed. legally speaking, is the government at _ are processed. legally speaking, is the government at risk— are processed. legally speaking, is the government at risk of- are processed. legally speaking, is the government at risk of breaking | the government at risk of breaking the government at risk of breaking the law here if conditions are substandard? brute the law here if conditions are substandard?— the law here if conditions are substandard? ~ ., . . , ., substandard? we know already on monday when _ substandard? we know already on monday when we _ substandard? we know already on monday when we spoke _ substandard? we know already on monday when we spoke the - substandard? we know already on monday when we spoke the homej substandard? we know already on - monday when we spoke the home office were on— monday when we spoke the home office were on the _ monday when we spoke the home office were on the able to transfer 15 refugees— were on the able to transfer 15 refugees on the ship, 20 were held back because of their vulnerabilities. now we have things where _ vulnerabilities. now we have things where there will be even further litigation — where there will be even further litigation i'm sure in relation to producing — litigation i'm sure in relation to producing an unsafe environment for these _ producing an unsafe environment for these individuals. the way forward is not _ these individuals. the way forward is not barges. the way forward is processing — is not barges. the way forward is processing claims.— is not barges. the way forward is processing claims. that went to come back to because _ processing claims. that went to come back to because the _ processing claims. that went to come back to because the bbc— processing claims. that went to come back to because the bbc understands| back to because the bbc understands that the government is taking precautionary measures by moving migrants off the boat and said that it has gone "above and beyond". is

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and the government should be hanging their heads in shame. thea;r and the government should be hanging their heads in shame.— their heads in shame. they said they have been complying _ their heads in shame. they said they have been complying with _ their heads in shame. they said they have been complying with the - their heads in shame. they said they have been complying with the uk - have been complying with the uk health security agency and have gone above and beyond what has been recommended. are you disputing that basic fact? i recommended. are you disputing that basic fact? .., �* recommended. are you disputing that basicfact? �* ,, . ., ., basic fact? i can't speculate about the precise _ basic fact? i can't speculate about the precise details, _ basic fact? i can't speculate about the precise details, what - basic fact? i can't speculate about the precise details, what we - basic fact? i can't speculate about the precise details, what we can l the precise details, what we can see is those people have been evacuated from the barge but what this really plays into is a very clear sense of the backlog being at 173,000, a failure to do... i’iiii the backlog being at 173,000, a failure to do. . ._ the backlog being at 173,000, a failure to do... i'll come onto the broader point _ failure to do... i'll come onto the broader point in _ failure to do... i'll come onto the broader point in a _ failure to do... i'll come onto the broader point in a moment, - failure to do... i'll come onto the broader point in a moment, but l broader point in a moment, but i'm asking you specifically what you are saying about the baby stockholm and how it got to this position. ilrrui’eiiii how it got to this position. well nobody could — how it got to this position. well nobody could be _ how it got to this position. in nobody could be arguing that, the sight of all these people now being evacuated from the bibby stockholm is a sign of a competent government, clear indication of a government

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hanging their heads in shame. in terms of the government have said about the bibby stockholm, the have said they have been complying with uk health security agency, have gone above and beyond what has been recommended. are you disputing that basic fact? t recommended. are you disputing that basic fact? .., ., recommended. are you disputing that basicfact? ., ,, . ., ., basic fact? i cannot speculate about the recise basic fact? i cannot speculate about the precise details. _ basic fact? i cannot speculate about the precise details. what _ basic fact? i cannot speculate about the precise details. what we - basic fact? i cannot speculate about the precise details. what we can - basic fact? i cannot speculate about| the precise details. what we can see is that those people have been evacuated from the barge, but what this really plays until it is a very clear sense of the backlog being 173,000, a failure at... that clear sense of the backlog being 173,000, a failure at...- 173,000, a failure at... that is a broader point — 173,000, a failure at... that is a broader point i _ 173,000, a failure at... that is a broader point i will _ 173,000, a failure at... that is a broader point i will come - 173,000, a failure at... that is a broader point i will come to - 173,000, a failure at... that is a broader point i will come to in i 173,000, a failure at... that is a broader point i will come to in a | broader point i will come to in a moment, but what do you think about the bibby stockholm at how we got to this position? the the bibby stockholm at how we got to this position?— this position? the sight of all these peeple _ this position? the sight of all these people now _ this position? the sight of all these people now being - this position? the sight of all - these people now being evacuated from the bibby stockholm is a sign of a competent government that has a grip on this issue, nobody could argue that. yet more evidence of a government that has completely lost

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many of them look at what happened january 6th and realize, people are getting real jail sentences. while there are some who just do not care, there are a whole lot more who worry about their families, their grandkids. they have to work, they have mort mortgages, rent. >> what does this mean politically? >> politically, yeah, we'll vote for him but i'm not risking jail because i have responsibilities that i know the former president probably isn't going to stand by me. people aren't as naive as i think we think they are. >> you represented clients in this business who were part of january 6th. is the 9087 day, was it a shockwaves in terms of deterrent for future people? >> you mean the convictions and prosecutions? >> and the sentences, which of course judge chutkan went above and beyond even with the prosecutors in some cases. >> i represented one client, and i still represent him. and i can say this. that they ate a lot of humble pie. they realized -- a lot of humble

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