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here? [ speaking in spanish ] >> translator: it's difficult because your children are trapped. >> reporter: we descend a 30-degree slope, hiking down a tunnel cut through some of the hardest in the world. we walk just under a mile when he tells me for the first time in his mining career, he feels nervous in here. will you let your children go back into the mine after this? he says, i don't think so. it goes without saying when you're deep into a mine, the only light you have is the light you bring. we're about 600 pete here. and i think the surprise is how warm it is. it's about 80 degrees. the trapped miners are not only in slightly warmer conditions, but the humidity is at about 80%. the most frustrating part of this says alphonso, not being able to help dig. >> every day the trapped miners are removing 20 tons of rock, debris collapsing in and around
here. again to our viewers if you are just joining us, we are getting the knew now. just got in a few minutes ago that the controversial part you've been hearing so much about in this arizona immigration bill is not, in fact, going to go into effect tomorrow. alphonso is on the phone with us. he's a former chief of the u.s. office of citizen zip is on the line with us now. alphonso, what do you think of the judge's ruling? >> i must say i haven't read the petition yet, but it doesn't surprise me. immigration after all is a federal issue. and that's what the administration argued in court. based on the preemption clause that immigration is an issue reserved in the constitution for the federal government. what they argued in court is in contrast with what they have argued publicly. that the law would lead to
on the whole issue has been one sided? a lot of people accused governor jan brewer and many others in her state of bringing this up to stir things up. >> no. not at all. i think the point that they're trying to make is they want to see the federal government act. i think, like the rest of the american people. you've seen the polls. over 70% of americans support the arizona law. but at the same time. a very large margin or majority of americans want to see some sort of immigration reform. so i think that was the message that the governor of arizona was sending the obama administration. >> well, again, alphonso on the line with us. sir, we appreciate you hopping on the line here with us. don't go too far away. we'll probably be checking in with you plenty in this whole debate. the debate that now we know is not going to end any time soon. we didn't expect it to. but we told you at the top of the hour something was going to happen in the next moment, minute or possibly in the next
groups have to work to gain trust, which is not always easy. just last week, alphonso and his team brought in these two little brothers who left their house before the quake and now can't find their mother. the goal is to try to determine if the boys have any other family they can stay with. that orphanage is already anticipating that it will have to expand. however, as a whole, it's really hard to see how haiti is simply going to be able to accommodate what appears to be this growing need tonight. anderson? >> you know, joe, some people listening to that man say that, you know, if a parent wants to give up his kid, they won't take them. why not? i mean, if -- why don't the orphanage just take kids if their parents don't want them? if the kid is unwanted by his own parents, wouldn't he be better off in an orphanage? >> reporter: sure. well, yeah, absolutely. and i think they would very much like to be able to take over the kid, but it's a matter of priorities. and when you have so many kids
just last week, alphonso and his team brought in these two little brothers who left their house before the quake and now can't find their mother. the goal is to try to determine if the boys have any other family they can stay with. that orphanage is already anticipating that it will have to expand. however, as a whole, it's really hard to see how haiti is simply going to be able to accommodate what appears to be this growing need tonight. anderson? >> you know, joe, some people listening to that man say that, you know, if a parent wants to give up his kid, they won't take them. why not? i mean, if -- why don't the orphanage just take kids if their parents don't want them? if the kid is unwanted by his own parents, wouldn't he be better off in an orphanage? >> reporter: sure. well, yeah, absolutely. and i think they would very much like to be able to take over the kid, but it's a matter of priorities. and when you have so many kids out there, potentially, who have neither mother nor father nor
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