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Morning Joe

stupid. maybe he's talking like a third grader. we're talking about people who tried to overthrow american democracy. ron knows that. he knows that. yet, he's playing that game. recall how donald trump also responded to a question about pardons for january 6th rioters in a recent cnn town hall meeting. >> my question to you is, will you pardon the january 6th rioters who were convicted of federal offenses? >> i am inclined to pardon many of them. i can't say for every single one because a couple of 'em probably they got out of control. what i've done to these people, they've persecuted these people. yeah, my answer is, i am most likely, if i get in, i will most likely, i would say, it will be a large portion of them. >> it's unbelievable, the party of law and order? that's what they tell us, it's law and order for the poor? is it law and order for the

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Morning Joe

the rioters and sent them off to the capitol? that would be former president trump. that's a question for special counsel jack smith and for attorney general merrick garland. we'll find out the answer. >> jonathan lemire, you wrote the book on "the big lie," on january 6th. you have one person being convicted after another. they say, "i didn't do it because of me. i did it because of donald trump. i was following donald trump. he's the one who told us to be there. he tweeted it out a month before, said come on january 6th." of course, trump said, "it'll be wild." trump is the one who told the rioters, "stand back and stand by." told white nationalists in the debates to "stand back and stand by." at cnn's town hall meeting, what did he say? he called january 6th a beautiful day and said that those people that beat the hell out of cops with the american flag were there with love in

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The Story With Martha MacCallum

beware that your life is not valued, that we have a political landscape that could cause harm as we prepare for the go 024 elections. >> so earlier this year, the florida chapter of the naacp overwhelmingly passed the advisory and sent the recommendation to the national chapter. it caught desantis' attention. here's what the governor had to say in march. >> this is a stunt to try to do that. it's a pure stunt. fine, if you want to waste your time on a stunt, that's fine. i'm not wasting my time on your stunts. >> yeah, here's how the governor's office is reacting today. we reached out for comment and were directed to this tweet that says, travel advisory, avoid these destinations at "new york times," at "washington post" and at msnbc, at cnn, et cetera for being openly hostile and 0%

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Amol Rajan Interviews

but it did work. the show went to number one in america, lifting morgan to a new level of fame. by 2011, after becoming a tv star on both sides of the atlantic, morgan took the place of veteran news presenter larry king at cnn, getting his own nightly show. he lasted three years before leaving amid falling ratings. his roller—coaster career was again going through another dip. trust and loyalty are a big dealfor you. i know they are. and you've got a thing about calling people when the chips are down and respecting people who call you when you've fallen from grace. how many people do you trust absolutely? yeah, it's a good question. i'll ask other people. i mean, actually, quite a lot. i mean... quite a large number of my family. i wouldn't say we're mafioso when it comes to loyalty, but we're not far off it. it's like if you're a morgan, you're a morgan. i've got a lot of friends, a lot of friends from journalism, a lot of friends from my village. some of them have known me 45 years. they know where all the bodies are buried. they're notjudgmental.

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Amol Rajan Interviews

he said, "3 out of 30 work, of new shows launched. it's brutal. "so we've got no idea if this is going to work. "this mightjust all blow up, right? "so enjoy every minute. "but, you know, i'd book your return ticket." and we laughed. but it did work. the show went to number one in america, lifting morgan to a new level of fame. by 2011, after becoming a tv star on both sides of the atlantic, morgan took the place of veteran news presenter larry king at cnn, getting his own nightly show. he lasted three years before leaving amid falling ratings. his roller—coaster career was again going through another dip. trust and loyalty are a big dealfor you. i know they are. and you've got a thing about calling people when the chips are down and respecting people who call you when you've fallen from grace. how many people do you trust absolutely? yeah, it's a good question. i'll ask other people. i mean, actually, quite a lot. imean... quite a large number of my family. i wouldn't say we're mafioso

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The Lead With Jake Tapper

case in new york city, just last month the former president pleaded not guilty to 34 felony charges related to hush money payments to adult film star and director, stormy daniels. not to mention, investigations by the justice department into january 6th and to those classified documents at mar-a-lago. not to mention the investigation where prosecutors in fulton county georgia are looking into his attempt to flip georgia, perhaps legally in the 2020 election. let's go back to the first, particles get to cnn's -- outside the courthouse in new york. kara, this was pretty quick, and it was also, i think it was more money than she was originally asking for? >> yeah, jake, i mean, this verdict was returned just over two and a half hours of deliberations. that seemed extremely quick for the jury that had a number of questions they had to answer. the jury here found that trump was liable for sexually abusing e. jean carroll. that's all related to, you know,

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The Lead With Jake Tapper

to hear donald trump use that kind of language in the oval office at the time. even though he had this history of making prude statements, just given the fact that this is a live allegation and you sort of knew at the time, this could lead to legal peril. so, when he said it, as a reporter, your spidey sense sort of jumps up, pops out, and that's the reaction i had at the time. like, oh my god, i can't believe he just said that and this could spell real trouble for him. i remember rushing to meet the deadline to run the story and e. jean carroll was on jeanne and cnn soon afterwards to respond, and now here we are. >> and then obviously he subsequently repeated it as well. i mean, it wasn't just something he said is president where you could, i guess, technically argue perhaps it was protected speech because of his special role as president of the united states. then after his presidency, he went on and repeated it again. it is remarkable somebody with so many accusers is so free

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The Lead With Jake Tapper

news. a new york jury this afternoon finding donald trump, the republican presidential front runner liable for sexual abuse and for defamation. the jury ordering donald trump to pay nearly $5 million to writer e. jean carroll, accuses him of raping her in a department store in the mid 90s. this decision coming after a different legal consequence for donald trump, he was indicted by the manhattan grand jury on 34 criminal counts of falsifying business records and march related to the hush money payment paid to stormy daniels. laura coats is with me, along with cnn political commentator, -- obviously the political implications of this, be on the legal ones, they're quite consequential. donald trump is, by far, in every poll, the front runner for the republican presidential nomination. and he is now found liable for

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The Lead With Jake Tapper

verdict should be treated with seriousness and is another example of the indefensible behavior of donald trump, unquote. that is one comment from one republican running against donald trump. we have yet to hear from the ambassador, nikki haley. we have yet to hear from ron desantis, not officially a candidate, of course. and on and on. what do you think somebody who wants to be the republican presidential nominee should say today? >> listen, it should not take a lot of courage to come out pretty strongly and say we should not elect a guy who the men are now found liable of sexual abuse to be president again. i think it'll take courage. i'm not sure how often will hear this. i want to point out very quickly, tomorrow's town hall at cnn has been criticized for deplatforming a man with such a gross background, has done so much damage to the country. it's important because it's an opportunity, to ask him about

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The Lead With Jake Tapper

should look at this pattern. the judge that the jury could consider that when they were evaluating whether trump assaulted carroll. they could consider this, they found they believe those women by preponderance of evidence, the judge said was just over 50%. they could consider. if they don't believe these women, they didn't have to consider. but it is something that they were allowed to use in this case. it could be a possible point of appeal for trump's team. >> all right, thank you so, much appreciated. let's bring in cnn chief legal analyst, lauren. and senior legal analyst, elie honig. laura, former president trump chose not to testify in this case. as kara scannell noted, one of the things he had said about e. jean carroll, and obviously this is offensive for anybody knows that sexual assault and rape is not about attraction, it's about power, bullying, and abuse. he said, she's not my type. how impactful do you think it was in the video recording deposition that was shown to the jury in which donald trump, claimed e. jean carroll was a

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