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lawyers had to sign an attestation certifying that all the documents had been returned. signatures that could put them at risk of prosecution if the information turned out to be false. and even after they found some classified documents, one of the lawyers claims trump wanted him to pluck out any really incriminating ones before handing them over to the fbi. trump's legal team as well as those staffers who are now his co-defendants, walt nauta and carlos de oliveira were back in a florida courtroom today to be arraigned on additional charges from the superseding indictment. again, de oliveira came without local counsel, so for the second time, his arraignment was delayed. it's been delayed another week. these two cases and the role that lawyers play in them leave us with an overriding question of whether we can trust lawyers to interpret the law as it's written. or whether they can simply get away with their own interpretation that takes them outside of the law, because if

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with the political affiliation and the commitments to trump specifically of all of the witnesses in each state specific fraudulent scheme he charges. he starts with arizona. he quotes rusty bowers' commitment to trump. he quotes his attestation to how hard he work to make sure trump won. he has an extraordinary statement i didn't remember from the michigan speaker about his deep commitment to trump's candidacy, presidency and re-election but he drew the line at not overturning the will of the people in the election. he goes state by state quoting and populating this 45-page indictment with the political affiliations and employment at this to trump that all the people held that they drew in carrying out the fake elector scheme. did we learn how trump was in the state by state by state schemes? >> i think to some extent seeing it laid out like that made it

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identify the person making it is making the attestation in this case, be it an emoji. that is valid. it is to show that the person who is agreeing to it is the person who agreed to it. so you have a digital footprint as with an electronic document. you don't need anything else in order to show that you agree to the contract. how is an emoji different from the electronic signature where you scribble your hand over the past? there is no difference so the judge is updating the rule of law. >> mike: we are nearly out of time, because. let's do one last one. from the opposing counsel, allowing a simple thumbs up emoji to signify identity of acceptance would open up the floodgates to allow all sorts of cases coming forward asking for interpretations as to what different emojis mean, for example, what does a fist-bump emojis meaning or a handshake emoji mead, et cetera. counsel argues the courts will be inundated with all kinds of cases. if this court finds that the thumbs up emoji can take the place of a signature.

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attesting to the judge, we have made good faith efforts to get these back. this is the level of secrecy that exists around these documents, despite the good faith efforts and a signed attestation that they handed everything over that we're still going to need to do the search. it was good enough far judge, and of course that judge had access to all of it not just the now underacketed portions which is part of a lawsuit that we have pressed to get as much access as possible for the underlying information. >> garrett haake for us, thank you, appreciate it. let's go to philadelphia where we're learning more about the man who police say shot and killed five people on the fourth of july. nbc's tom winter is on this for us. what are we learning? >> reporter: what we're learning is a little bit more about the social media background as well as the individual's mental health, and those are two of several components that authorities will use to try and determine a motive. we know that there was a written will that was left behind, quite specific we're told and a senior

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corcoran's shoes having penned an attestation, even if christina bobb signs it at the end of the probe. >> yeah, this was a part of the investigation and throughout, this is largely explaining where trump is today facing the criminal charges. that's because he was very reticent all along, as was one of his colleagues boris epshteyn, with taking the posture with the federal government, with the national archives, in returning these materials that they have demanded repeatedly over the course of really a year and a half. so this time period after the justice department and the fbi executed a search warrant of mar-a-lago, and december, when investigators were still skeptical that trump had returned all of the materials is a really important one. and three of these lawyers

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saying, bring me some of the boxes that we borrowed back from the white house, i'd like to look at them. >> i would have the right to do that. there's nothing wrong with it. >> when it comes to your documents, did you ever show those classified documents to anyone. >> not really. i would have the right to. >> i had every right to have these documents. >> i hadn't had a chance to go through all the boxes. it's a long, tedious job, it takes a long time. which i was prepared to do but i have a very busy life. >> rinado, donald trump does have attorneys now who have signed a form -- an attestation saying they will represent him. one has already gotten $3 million. check mark on that, good for him. will they even be able to legally go in and attempt to make the arguments you just heard in the court of law. wouldn't they risk debarment? to say that gobble degook in

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shot while walt nauta does not. can i read you my favorite line from this lawyer, this attestation from the lawyers who are going to represent donald trump. the best line in it is fee disputes between counsel and client shall not be a basis for withdrawal for this presentation, because he probably gave them the three million like he had to do last time for mr. keys and had to pay him up front. walt nauta doesn't have $3 million. it is this we're power dynamic. and i was actually going to ask you, if you don't mind, can walt nauta be a witness in the case against trump? because he is also a defendant. doesn't he have fifth amendment -- >> if for some reason donald trump could show the judge that he needs to call walt nauta as a witness -- i don't think that's going to happen. but there is a provision. if you can show that your co-defendant needs to be a witness and that the co-defendant is willing to testify. in other words, that he is going to actually take the stand and not assert the fifth amendment,

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here's what we got. >> that attestation, signed by lawyers, turned out there was a lot more stuff. if that was intentionally false, that would be that crime. we also know there's a charge of conspiracy. any two or more people who reach a meeting of the minds in an agreement. that tells us that somebody else was involve, at least one other person with donald trump and agreed to commit this crime with him, and finally, we know that there is at least one charge for false statements and that could get back to the same certification. we have a good sense of what's in there. there's a lot we need to find out. >> that's what i want to ask you about. at least on one side of things, conspiracy, there's got to be somebody else involved. what else do we not know at this point in time. >> important to know what we don't know. when is this thing going to be unsealed. when will we get to see it. the latest that will happen is at the arraignment, tuesday at 3:00 p.m. this is up to doj, if they decide they want to unseal it

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longer an issue, trying to recall events -- >> exactly. >> you want to do it immediately. >> he didn't sign the attestation. >> talk about protecting yourself. you guys did a great job of laying out how sensitive this material was. but my takeaways here, they recovered over 300 classified documents, right, talking volume, that's what distinguishes this. of course in the case of the current president. and they were stored in everything from a ballroom to a bathroom to a shower to an office space to his bedroom to a st storage room. there's a photo where there's information only to be shared with the five, australia, canada, the united kingdom, spilled out on a box, as we have in an attic, old college papers. these are classified secrets spread across the floor of a storage room and there were secrets in a bathroom, a ballroom. the sloppiness in terms of storage, it's breathtaking. again, we've been reporting on this for some time. this is surprising. >> not only that, we know that

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