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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20110212:00:04:00

i think it made it difficult for the army to do anything but just sit back and watch. >> as recently as yesterday, there was a call for barack -- i mean mubarak to leave the country. he's in sharm el-sheikh in the protection of the military. were you surprised the protesters were very happy where that resolution so far? >> well, this is not over. already there's talks of lawsuits. when i was down in the crowds, people say ty want their money back. i think president mubarak, former president mubarak, now citizen mubarak is going to have a serious problem. he had all of the legal immunity afforded by the state. there are going to be people coming after him for money for wrongful death lawsuits and it will be very difficult. this is not over for mr. mubarak. i initially thought this would happen, he would go to sharm el-sheikh and try to stay out of sight, out of mind. i think that was -- mubarak's initial hope, that he could just

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20110210:22:08:00

they wanted to see something dramatic. remember, people in the square feel that they have staged a revolution. that's their words. revolution. and they want the government to respond to a revolution. they don't want change, they don't want reform, they want revolution. >> i feel it. great reporting, ron. i can feel it from you and i think we may be seeing some more steps in the days ahead. maybe the military will grab it. i was myself hoping we would see that kind of clarity by now. thank you, ron allen, so much from the streets of cairo from tahrir square itself. let's bring in barack a research fellow with the new american foundation and with the protesters in cairo's tahrir square by phone. barack, tell us about that. we're just hearing, do the people now expect they can get more out of mubarak, that they can get him to leave office, get his vice president to leave office, and turn it over to the military? is that what they want now? >> well, chris, i have to tell you the mood has gone from exhilaration to frustration. the people here today, heard

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20110210:22:56:00

the saudis conveyed to the white house. people i talked to, officials i talked to, the saudis are very upset with president obama for what appeared to be the rapidity with which he dumped hosni mubarak initially. another strong u.s. ally. and there's a feeling of the region, if they're going to dump him that quickly what about us? i think it's a pressure tactic, though, to put on the united states. maybe brian agrees or disagrees with that. >> i think that's right. one thing i would add is there's a strong sense of declining united states influence in this part of the world. we asked repeatedly certain things of allies and we've been snubbed. when we don't meet those goals there's a crisis of efficacy, we can't get done what we say we'll get done. i think that's a dangerous dynamic. >> thank you. we're going to continue covering the developments in egypt. i've got two more hours of live coverage coming up right now. coming back, in fact, right after this. ows how to make thins

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20110204:20:48:00

several years on various, specific issues. what we're trying to do now is look at a comprehensive fashion, so it's not just border issues and it's a broader set of issues involved. i have confident that prime minister harper will be very protective of certain core values of canada, just as i would be very protective of the core values of the united states, and those won't always match up perfectly. and i thought -- i agree even more with his answer in french. all right? thank you very much, everybody. >> there we have it. president obama wrapping up his small press conference that he just had with the prime minister from canada, steven harper, addressing certain questions of their meeting and also what's taking place in egypt. we'll talk with savannah guthrie.

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20110204:20:47:00

purview? hold on. let me ask you to stand by. president obama is now taking questions once again. >> openness issues, but we match up more than probably any country on earth. we have this border that benefits when it is open, the free flow of goods and services resulted in huge economic benefits for both sides. and so the goal here is to make sure that we are coordinating closely and that, as we are taking steps and measures to ensure both openness and security, that we're doing so in ways that enhances the relationship as opposed to creates tensions in the relationship. we are confident that we're going to be able to achieve that. we've already made great progress just over the last

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20110204:20:29:00

analyst and also a former d.c. bureau chief for egypt tv. just hearing the fact of the president talking momentarily, just giving only a moment to egypt before he takes reporters' questions about talking about the fact the future of egypt is going to be decided by its people. we were talking about mohamed elbaradei, an egyptian opposition activist and someone that said he would be willing to run for president there. as you were saying, he may not be the first choice leader of all egyptians because he's not well known enough maybe in the country itself. what are other options for who may take over leadership in egypt? >> let me, first, say something about when we heard from the president. when he say his understanding that discussions are already going on in egypt about the transition, i think this may give us a signal it's a done deal. he doesn't like it to look like

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20110204:20:42:00

to go, but he's laying down the pretexts and the guide posts for which his performance will be judged. i thought it was very interesting, for the first time put some frames around some of his demands where he said, you can't just let the opposition have more freedom. you've got to make sure you don't suppress them and so forth. so it's essentially everything but, but you can see where the administration wants him to move quickly and wants him to move in a way that preserves his dignity but at the same time gets him out of the picture. >> let's listen to president obama taking his second question there. >> we are a sovereign countries who have capacity to act as we choose to act. we have to make sure we act in a sovereign way, that serves canada's interests. it is in canada's interests to work with our partners in the united states, to ensure that our boarders are secure and

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20110204:20:06:00

unless he felt comfortable and ready to do that. >> listening to cap taken mark kelly talking about decisions made after congresswoman governor was in recovery after the january 8th shooting that happened in tucson. less than two weeks later, as we know, as the captain told us, they made that decision to move her on a friday and take her to houston in proximity where the captain lives and trains for the shuttle mission. he had moments with the family members, his in-laws and taking into account what gab gabrielle would have wanted him to do to helm the flight. just moments, we are hearing from president obama live. he's expected to take questions on egypt for the first time in a joint news conference that's going to take place with the canadian prime minister, steven harper. nbc's chuck todd in the old executive office building. chuck joins us now to talk about this. we understand, though, is this

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20110204:20:46:00

revolution which resulted in the overthrow of the dictator and yet in that case, ruling elite hand-picked ally of the dictator ends up becoming the president and it took that country quite a while to achieve full democracy. look at philippines' revolution you had a popular opposition figure, the widow of the murdered opposition leader, she was there and ready to step in when marcos fled. with the shah of iran departing, that was a broad-based revolution, but the ruling -- the myllys came in and hijacked that revolution. so, it's hard to find an exact parallel to what's going on in egypt right now. >> especially with the other turmoil, unrest we're seeing as it's having a ripple effect. how do you expect the u.s. government to pull this back into i guess what they can consider something under their

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20110204:20:41:00

of energy. and, yes, we did discuss the matter you raises. let me just say this in that context -- >> "the washington post" glenn kessler standing by with me. i want your reaction to president obama's first question addressing the situation from egypt. reminding all of us he's had two conversations with mubarak, nothing as of late that he's talking about. what's your reaction to what he's saying? >> well, it's very clear that he does not want to be in the position of ordering president mubarak or telling president mubarak that it's time for him to go. you know, it's very difficult for an american president to say that to another leader, in any case. what you have here is him laying out essentially the scenario for mubarak where he says, you should consult with your advisers, think about leaving a legacy. >> right. >> how can you make the transition? and it's everything but, it's just short of saying, it's time

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