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Transcripts for MSNBC The Rachel Maddow Show 20220121 02:43:00

House alleging a potential lawsuit against several states president biden won. a document containing presidential findings concerning the security of the election and ordering various actions. we ve got all of these descriptions about material that was requested by the january 6th investigators that was being held up while trump claimed it was all privileged. his privilege claims have now failed. and so, all of that material from the national archives is on its way to the january 6 gts investigators. this follows the supreme court decision siding 8-1 against trump s efforts to declare all of this stuff privilege and thereby keep it secret. we know some of trump s records are already in the hands of the january 6th investigators right now. today in the investigation s letter to ivanka trump, they reaffirmed they re also seeking out takes. early drafts from former

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Transcripts for MSNBC The Rachel Maddow Show 20220121 02:05:00

Listen. hi, representative, my name is angela mccallum. i m call frumg trump campaign head quarters in washington d.c. i know you re very busy but i did want to reach out to you on behalf of the president as you have an opportunity to be a crucial part of his re-election. we just wanted to make sure you knew how you could be helpful in insuring that every american is represented and can rest assured that their vote will be fairly and correctly counted in this election. the united states constitution provides that the state legislatures retain sole authority to designate the presidential electors. you have the power to send a slate of electors who will support president trump and vice president pence. this is an effort that s happening in other states as well, such as pennsylvania, arizona, georgia. their state legislatures across the country, who are standing

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Transcripts for MSNBC The Rachel Maddow Show 20220121 02:20:00

Perhaps her communications have not been ad kwtly archives and she needs to do that. but man, between the e the forged electoral votes finally being unwoven. so we can see where those came from within the trump campaign. we can see rude a remember, president trump put rudy giuliani in charge of the effort to mount some sort of pseudo legal effort to keep trump in power, even though he had lost the election. apparently what giuliani did was helm this effort to send out thesis fill-in of the the blanks mad libs forgery documents from which they created fake documents, trying to pass themselves off as real electors, even though those were states trump lost. so, the real electors were biden electors. we know not own lee that they re focusing on the matter.

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Transcripts for MSNBC The Rachel Maddow Show 20220121 02:41:00

Today is nuts. it feels like a mung s worth of i can t get my head around this. special grand jury convened in the criminal investigation of the former president in grj gj. the bizarre story of the fake elector documents that republicans created in multiple states, that story blows wide open and we learn who was running the scheme inside the trump campaign. the president s daughter asked to testify to the january 6th investigation in a letter that reveals information about what they know, including that the former president tried to personally, physically lead the mob to the capitol that day. that was his intention, at least one far-right wing member of congress said trump s plans would drive a stake am to the heart of the federal republic. that the white house counsel s

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Transcripts for MSNBC The Rachel Maddow Show 20220121 02:16:00

For ms. trump to talk about what she knows, given hoy much she features in other people s testimony. there s so much going on in this today. we re going to get expert help concerning the revelations. this is from the letter. as january 6th approached, president trump attempted to persuade vice president pence to participate in his plan to not count the legitimate electors for the electoral college vote. one of the discussions occurred on the phone on the morning of january 6th. you, meaning ivanka trump, you were present in the oval office and observed one side of the telephone conversation. general kellogg was present during that call and has testified to the january 6th investigation about that discussion as follows. question, and there s the transkrimt from kellogg s testimony, question, it s been reported that the president said to the vice president you don t have the courage to make a hard

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Transcripts for MSNBC The Rachel Maddow Show 20220121 02:17:00

Decision. maybe not those exact words but something like that. and answer, words, and i don t remember exactly but something like that. yeah, like you re not tough enough to make the call. question, another report of the phone call says trump said mike, it s not right. you can do this. i m counting on you. i should have picked someone else four years ago. you re going to wimp out. answer, something like that, yes. and general kellogg, ivanka trump turned to me and said mike pence is a good man and i turned to her and said yes, he is. and part of the conversation you observed on the morning of january 6th. similarly the committee would like to cis cusany other conversations you may have

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Transcripts for MSNBC The Rachel Maddow Show 20220121 02:01:00

Julianna led fake electors plot. here s the washington post s version of that same front-page story today. as giuliani coordinated plan for trump electoral votes in states biden won. it was mr. giuliani, apparently. you know, you find a thread of a story. you tug and tug some more and one day you re like one more tug on the same thread and the whole sweater comes apart. today was the day the whole sweater came apart. and now we re sitting in a pile of yarn going oh, that s what it s made of. here s how cnn put it in their story on this tonight. quote, trump campaign officials, led by giuliani, over saw efforts in 2020 to put forward illegitimate electors in states trump lost. members of the campaign team were far more involved than previously known in the plan.

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Transcripts for MSNBC The Rachel Maddow Show 20220121 02:50:00

Before the hearings or report comes. in any event, i think all what they re starting to do is include this evidence when it is helpful to the committee. not just for giggles that we can get a little insight into it. insight into it and i think that is an interesting move and frankly what we are also seeing, rachel, is they are starting to narrow down on the family, on the children. and i doubt they expect a lot of cooperation so this is an opportunity for them to lay out what evidence this he have related to trump s family and who knows potentially trump or mike pence himself. former u.s. district attorney in the southern district of new york, former house majority counsel during the trump impeachment trial number one. it is great to have you here tonight.

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Transcripts for MSNBC The Rachel Maddow Show 20220121 02:18:00

Participated in regarding the president s plan to obstruct or impede the counting of electoral votes. they have information suggesting the white house counsel may have concluded the actions president trump directed vice president pence to take would be otherwise illegal. did you discuss those issues with any members of the white house counsel office? to your knowledge, were any conclusions shared with president trump? similarly, in the days before january 6th, a member of the house freedom caucus, the most pro trump caucus within the among republican members of the house of representatives. in the days before january 6th, a member of the house freedom caucus with knowledge of the president s planning for it day, sent a message with this explicit warning. quote, if potus allows this to occur. we re driving a stake in the heart of the federal republic.

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Transcripts for MSNBC The Rachel Maddow Show 20220121 02:44:00

President trump s disastrous january 6th video message, which he delivered after the capitol riot had basically resolved. the one in which he told people we love you. you re very special. that was the video they decided to release. there were earlier iterations that were worse than that. the committee is seeking to obtain them. and given what s happened legally and what the national archives have said they re sending over, it seems like they re going it get those things. joining us is daniel goldman. he s a former u.s. district attorney. and served in the first impeachment trial. there s lot going on. i was hoping we could get to talking to you tonight. yeah, amazing news day on the legal front. it really is. so, let me ask you, first, about the ivanka trump letter and what

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