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let's get specifically to sarah palin here. would you not admit that you always talk about political athletes, would you not admit she's lost a few steps since 2008? >> i do believe this, joe, i think she has a great constituency, maybe 35%, a majority of the country does not want to see her as president. i think she'd be tough in a nomination run. >> come on, pat, stop being spokesman for the white house. is sarah palin less impressive today than she was in 2008 as a political candidate? >> as a candidate, she is not what she was in those first two weeks of 2008 but i'll say this, she is probably the most dynamic figure in national politics now, even more so than barack obama. >> i think these days being a dynamic figure is not a good thing. >> maybe not. >> we have news here. pat, run for it. he's sarah's endorsement. he's afraid to offend her.
that you're not getting money from foreign sources. >> you know, joe, this used to be called mccarthyism if you make a charge and you have nothing to back it up but you keep making it. one thing, andrea said apparently the poll in the white house said things are working. i will tell you what will work, joe, this, if democrats can make the case that these big corporations, amoral corporations are shipping jobs and factories to china and the republican party is the handmaiden of these corporations, they can split the republican party from a tea party, off from the republican party and they can make hey with it. i agree with you. these charges are false because there is nothing behind them. secondly, when you go after the chamber of commerce, there's a chamber of commerce in every town in america. >> i have a couple points. first of all, you know when you're a democratic president and the "washington post" is accusing you of zeno phobic attacks and the "new york times"
they are attacking the chamber. it's an unwinnable argument, for a president who is seen as anti-business, attacking the chamber is a dumb, dumb move. >> it is, joe. these are seen as moderate business guys in the communities, immersed in their communities. chamber of commerce seen as a very very positive force. secondly, it has hurt something invaluable to obama. that is his credibility in the sense that he is above politics in a way, as president and he doesn't deal, if you will in mundacity. there is nothing behind this to prove the chamber of commerce is funneling foreign money into campaigns. i think it's hurting credibility of the president of the united states, which ultimately is his greatest asset. >> how does the white house respond to being called zeno phobic by the "washington post"?
there's an e-mail that's come in. i'm sure it's attacking mika again. >> chris, why is it you only read the e-mails critical of mika and never those critical of joe, surely, some of your viewers find an almost 50-year-old a popular host of a morning show and dresses like a college freshman unacceptable. >> i don't look like a college freshman, do i? >> no. you're wearing a wonderful wonderful willover, boston red sox. >> it's very appropriate to the playoffs, too. >> i'm listing to xmthe other day, driving around new york. they play "dirty water." great '60s song they always play up at fenway, and then they play sweet caroline. i tweet, pull over to the side of the road and i tweet, i say, hey, there's a boston two-fer on xmright now. and then somebody tweeted back,
"morning joe" book party. my paperback is coming up. >> joe would like to have it 40 feet from his apartment building. that way, he might show up, just roll out of bed, roll out of his chair. >> sleepwalk. >> beer in his belly and his book. >> the rent problem. the rent was exorbitant. barnes and nobles. >> we can't do it. >> that's why the candidate was good. >> the rent is too damn high candidate. >> i loved him. >> you have to see the new york gubernatorial debate. the guy stole the show. >> i might have a new hero. the rent ties damn high. >> and he is right. he is so right. >> he is absolutely right. we have chris matthews, jim cramer and andrew coming up on the show today, a lot to get to. we start in new york with two weeks to go before the general election, new york's seven gubernatorial candidates came out last night for their first and most likely only debate.
damn high party. he speaks here on the subject of gay marriage. >> at the topic of gay marriage, do you support it, yes or no? >> i do not support gay marriage. >> mr. cuomo. >> strongly support gay marriage. >> mr. mcmillen? >> the rent too damn party here, if you want to marry a shoe, i'll marry her. >> love him. the latest new york city poll shows cuomo leading paladino 59 to 24%. west virginia senate candidates, republican john raese and democratic governor joe manchin faced off in their only debate with opponents locked in a top race. notably, a politician who wasn't there took center stage most of the evening, president obama. throughout the hour-long session, raese repeatedly tried to tie manchin to the president but manchin fired back. >> i hate to inform my opponent,
track, forbid if the gop strays from this message, if so, gop is through. >> what's your response. >> i have a time-tested truth for you. >> that is hitting on an issue, joe, we will see coming back in january w will the republican party go, if you will, the tea party route, and really go after big government and start cutting and chopping and doing all these things it promised to do. if it doesn't, there will be a civil war inside the republican party which will be immediately reflected in the primary battles because iowa will be starting up in february and march. she is dead right about that. the reconciliation of the tea party philosophy and republican party idea is going to be the big question in the new congress. >> mika,ion exactly what to say about what i just saw with sarah palin. you have a candidate that excites the base, members of the base. but -- >> isn't this kind of like
making the case. the trouble with what's going on in our economy, you have a recession, a lot of people seize that, like your pal, rahm emanuel seize it as an opportunity to lay people off, wow, we have our chance now, let's get rid of all the intermediate management and sales force we don't need. good excuse to fire a guy, sorry we have to do this, this is tough times. it works or bring in a consultant from a b school and say you have to fire these people. the old guy rung the company, i hate to do it to you, joe, these kids are pretty smart. the democrats could make a case this globalization thing has been good generally for american competitiveness but not so great for the working guy and somebody has to look out for them. the democratic party used to do that. >> what you said, which is instead of fighting the chamber of commerce, they should have fought corporations sending jobs overseas. the white house missed it by a
couple of steps, didn't they? >> they did. i'll tell you, that is what's coming, joe, this bill to put tariffs on the chinese got 345 votes in the house. the whole idea of economic nationalism, corporations are betraying the company, these big manufacturing companies by putting factories and jobs and technology in china, that is a coming issue. if the democrats can split that off from the republicans and leave the republicans as the party basically of big companies moving jobs overseas, they got a winning hand. >> i listen to his show, i used to think he was overheated, a passionate fellow, i think he's right. i listen everyday, the labor argument of the working person has not been made by barack obama. i think he's too elitist. i think he's too intellectual about free trade. he doesn't hear this guy who just lost his job after 35 years. he worked hard and played by the rules and he got dumped.
>> the latest public policy polls shows manchin with a slim lead, 48-45% and 7% undecided. the latest gallup tracking poll on the generic ballot, republicans are holding a 48-43% lead over the democrats, a change from september, when democrats held a one point lead, 46-45%. gallup also found republicans are leading by 11 and 17 point margins among likely voters, depending on turnout. >> virginia, i think in the end, in west virginia, i think manchin ends up winning. hard to paint a guy who's been a governor as some leftist. pat buchanan, i'm not really good -- sfi ha >> i have sarah palin news for him. >> good. i'm not good with this political stuff but probably not good running for senate in west virginia if your family lives in palm beach. i'm sorry. i had something in my throat.