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Suriname: Statement by the Spokesperson on the December Trials

Suriname: Statement by the Spokesperson on the December Trials
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Erin Burnett OutFront

imagine that as the opening argument in a trial and then you've got these other individuals not named here but identified as employee number 1, are you cooperating witnesses, which it appears they are. >> it certainly does. it appears the director of i.t. who knew about the videos who's number 4, it afears from the text messages here that individual cooperated. >> yes, i can't think of another explanation for it. it's so damning, and just imagining that, that is what a defense counsel would say to a defendant to say you need to plea. in any normal circumstance, it's only because he's a former president and might be a future president we're in this abnormal circumstance in which somebody doesn't plea. i've seen all these espionage cases someone pleas, and to alissa's point especially because there's other people in the crime. other espionage cases are people acting as a rogue individual with secretive information. this is a principal organizing a scheme with his underlings and

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Erin Burnett OutFront

here, of course, as you know them. ryan goodman, former special counsel with the defense department. a former close colleague to the special counsel jack smith. alyssa farah griffin, director of strategic communications in the trump white house. and jamal simmons, former communications director for vice president kamala harris. all right, thanks very much to all of you. let me start by you've got a new document presented and then you have this whole new area of deleting security footage and these codefendants. let me start with 49 pages on june 8th. superseding indictment is 69 pages on july 27th. jack smith at the time talked about a speedy trial. so obviously this is going to slow it down. it seems it's going to slow it down. you're adding all this. why now? >> so why now might be just they came across the evidence after their first indictment because the grand jury continued to meet, continued to take

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Erin Burnett OutFront

states in a way we can't truly fathom. but also this detail about walt nauta was supposed to be traveling with the former president, but then he rushed back to palm beach after having some sort of discussion. it speaks to him perhaps being directed by the former president to go and deal with this issue. i mean this is laid out in a narrative where it's clear-cut and you can see very specifically that the justice department reached out, and at every turn they were looking to cover up. >> i'm going to lay out the time line in a moment. jamal, first to what ryan was saying. if the outcome here appears to be -- appears to be an inevitable delay pushing off far from a speedy trial, anything but, right? clearly the special counsel reached a conclusion it was worth it, whatever that may do to the political calender of the outcome. is it? >> people who ask that question are going to be the republicans running against donald trump during this primary because they're the ones who won't have an answer to this question. and all the people voting in this primary who won't have an answer to this question, they

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Erin Burnett OutFront

spoke with them so many times and asked them so many questions. but at a certain point when you lie through your teeth so blatantly the way they both have to investigators, and it turns out they were just as much part of this cover-up, they can't turn away. and they have to bring -- >> it's amazing to me people are just willing to die on these swords for him when you think about it. ty is back with us. and ty, there was one more point i believe you were trying to make about the iran document. >> yeah, i was just trying to make a simple point that i think trump thought he was safe because the intelligence community may have objected to originally including that document. and i think smith probably had to go back to the intelligence community, you know, once trump started to make that part of his fake defense to get permission to declassify it and use it at the trial or at least use it in the -- but he kneecaped him by putting that back in.

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Erin Burnett OutFront

inan indictment of antiquity, if the perception is why didn't you indict earlier, and chaos, is that a risk? >> i think so. i think they took multiple riskwise the superseding indictment. you're organizing, you have great visibility so when you go you go, and when you tell the jum we want a speedy trial, no delays, everything's ready to go, we're giving them more discovery than everyone's received right up front, that doesn't look like a well oiled machine in this instance, but i think it's worth the tradeoff why they had to bring those kind of charges. >> do you think it's it? there's an employee number 5 in l.a., there's an employee number 3. is this it? >> look, i think if the judge had set the december trial date the government had asked for, maybe we wouldn't have seen this. but now we have more time and it has been pushed out, it does

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Erin Burnett OutFront

summary and that's why they have the proceedings for the government to come up with a way the judge is satisfied the essence is a adequately presented without actually declassifying the document. so that'll take place. i do disagree with people who think this pushes the trial back significantly. because this is really straightforward stuff. i mean it's simple proof as to the obstruction, you know, the signal messages alone, you know, open and shut that door. so i don't think -- i don't think -- i think the government will push back, you know, to any significant delay. it could delay a week perhaps, but this is information to get into the defendant's lab pretty quickly. > it's an interesting point. stay with me, ty. everyone is staying with me. i want to update on jack smith's

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Erin Burnett OutFront

ahead on all cylinders and full steam ahead as they should. the importance of the calender and timing, i agree with norm these new charges will certainly bump back that may 2024 start date, and now you're getting into a danger zone where a trial which is going to take six weeks, eight weeks, that is going to start bumping right up against the election in november of 2024. and jack smith has a really important decision strategically to make an on issue called severance, which is will he seek to break donald trump off from these other two and try them alone, or will he seek to try them all together? >> guys, thank you very, very much. i'm wolf blitzer in the situation room. thank you very much for watching. our breaking news coverage continues right now with erin burnett out front. >> announcer: this is cnn breaking news. and good evening. i'm erin burnett, and welcome to

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All In With Chris Hayes

according to trump, the special counsel gave him a four-day deadline in which to speak to the washington d.c. grand jury hearing the case. it's an offer he will almost certainly not accept, seeing that anything he says can be used against him in a subsequent trial. all of this indicates the department of justice is wrapping up what has been a long and sprawling investigation led by this man, jack smith, for the past eight months. we do not have any indication of what the exact charges are that smith is considering. and the ex president said himself, a target letter like this, quote, almost always means arrest and indictment are coming. that is exactly what happened just last month, when jack smith sent out another target later regarding the investigation into classified documents. just days after that letter became public, smith brought a 37 count indictment against the ex president, charging him with seven federal crimes. of course, and that was already the second indictment against trump this year, following the

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All In With Chris Hayes

words after the election. there is a sheer volume of unclassified material that is part of this case. that's more than 1.1 million pieces of evidence. that doesn't even include the classified documents, which are more than 1000. and, so the judge, again and again, seemed to be siding with the defense on a lot of these issues. however, it wasn't clear that she would concede to holding this trial until after the election. in fact, whenever the defense mentioned the election or the fact that this would somehow -- in some way impede and donald trump's running for president, xi straight away from that and kept pointing to the sheer volume of documents and said she wanted to frame this whole timing issue around that and really pushed away -- this whole theory. >> 1.1 million classified

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