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and you know, of course, andre 3000 wraps those lyrics and i thought, this is perfect, right? it is such, i think, and expression of what i think esch and what i would be struggling with in the book, right? what these characters wants more than anything is they want to lay. if they want to survive. they want to tell their stories. they want witnesses. so, i think that epigraph expresses that. >> jesmyn, amazing. thank you so much for joining us on the velshi banned book club. thank you for writing this amazing book. thank you for sharing. i could go one for an hour with all of the great parts about this book, but i really appreciate having you here. thank you. >> thank you. thank you. >> jesmyn ward it's the two time winner of a national boo award for fiction. the author of salvage the bones and many other books. including lettuce descent. all right, that does it for me.

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Velshi

>> you included three quotes in your epigraph. one is from deuteronomy, and the old testament. one is from the poet, gloria verandas, and one is from the atlanta hip-hop roop, outcast. the last one reads, we on our backs, staring at the stars above, talking about what we gonna be when we grow up. i said, what you want to be? she said, alive. what's the significance of that? >> i love southern wrap. i love outkast, i'm a huge outkast fan. i feel like southern rap and music was so necessary and instrumental to my life when i was growing up, and informed so much of my ideas about myself and the world that i was moving through, and what was possible and gave me keys to understand that world. i wanted to reference southern wrap in you know, the beginning of the book, in one of epigraph's. and i was listening to outkast,

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Velshi

is inextricable from american history, and quote. the 16 19 project turns to the past to explain the president, and successfully, so a grueling examination of the man considered to be the father of modern gynecology. and the black woman on who he experimented on. that's just one example of nikole hannah-jones visceral writing that will sweep you four days, months. maybe your life. the book also highlights cultured legacy through creative writing, each chapter includes a work of short fiction or palm created by a different black writer, recruiting langston hughes famous and tragic, palm american heartbreak, and epigraph, quote, i am the american heartbreak, the rock on which freedom stopped its tow, the great mistake, that jamestown made, long ago. since this inception, 16 19 project has faced sharp criticism, and a relentless firestorm of calls for its ban of school libraries, gates that, it's even from the trump white house. a google search of its title populist thousands of results condemning it. why? the 16 19 project, it

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Velshi

wrong in the past. >> it is a current events in this country that inspired m to turn to this subject matter at this point in time. i was very struck by the georg santa monica, that sort of epigraph of my book, which is, if we don't remember the past, we are condemned to relive it. i thought this might be an appropriate time to draw the parallels between what happene then and things that are happening now in our own country, in this day and age i thought this is truly why decided to turn my hand to thi subject matter at this moment. i thought it was a very, ver topical, unfortunately topical time it is a topical news event tha seems to be playing out again. concentration camps are not th beginning of the genocide, the are the end of a genocide. we start with the ostracizatio of people. we start with the polarization of people. us versus them that is the beginning steps of

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with the separation of parents at the border. she goes quote, how is this happening? have we not learned anything? this feels like a call to arms. talk about this and this idea in the book that we are so doing things that were seemingly wrong in the past. >> the current events that are playing out in these countries that inspired me to turn to these -- is the epigraph of my book. if we do not remember the past we are condemned to relive it. this might be the appropriate time to draw a parallel between what happened then and things that are happening now in our own country in this day and age. i just thought that this is truly why i wanted to turn my hand to the subject matter at this moment. i thought it was very topical, unfortunately, a topical time. it is a topical news event that is playing out again.

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The 11th Hour With Brian Williams-20210609-06:43:00

majority have in mind for june, it's pretty clear the era of bipartisanship is over. >> as we said before the break, who's gonna tell joe manchin some might argue true bipartisanship was over when senate republicans block their creation of a commission to look into january 6th. our guest tonight is chris matthews. chris, less well known about you is that you were once upon a time a capitol police officer. what must it have been like, what must it still be like to view won six through that prism. >> i would also answer what matt doubt said in your epigraph, when he talked about where we're headed. right at the top of the national archives where we have our national documents, the past is prologue. what is all of this we're

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mind and says absolutely we need to have some sort of impeachment in there to prevent a president from, you know, borrowing -- getting help from a foreign government. so it's the pair mount case. >> they don't mean crime as in criminal code. >> exactly. >> what do they mean? >> they mean an abuse of the public trust. whether you look at 1787 or the way mike pence when he was in the house of representatives in 2008 put it in what i call in the book the pence rule. when a president is putting his interests above those of the american people, that's what a high crime and misdemeanor is. >> mike pence literally said that out loud. >> he did in 2008. so the book begins with that. it's the epigraph. i just ask that simple question. that's why i wrote the book. look, americans -- i know we have republicans and democrats and independents. just think about this by flipping the identity of the political parties. imagine it wasn't president trump alleged to do this.

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20190321:22:26:00

>> look, i think everything we've seen, the story that's just come out today about the e-mails and the use of -- these are two people that -- who are naive and reckless, because they have an extraordinary sense of self-importance. they -- you know, they are extraordinarily unaware. they are disdainful of rules. they think that rules are for other people. i mean, you know -- >> have you seen "star wars"? >> i have. >> do you remember the last thing luke says to the emperor before the big battle with vader? >> what? >> your arrogance is your weakness. >> there you go. i think that you -- i should have -- that would be a brilliant epigraph for my book. >> for the paperback! >> is it like a blog you can edit. people don't read anymore. we're out of time, nick, final

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20180301:21:28:00

guy and the president is just treating him like a punching bag which is truly extraordinary. >> so, there are two lines i want to ask you about. it sounds like state of mind is more than just a turn of phrase in that article. what is the importance of understanding donald trump's state of mind when it came to his desire to fire sessions? >> well, if he had a corrupt state of mind, if he was doing it basically to protect himself from an investigation, that does go to the obstruction of justice issue. but more broadly, nicolle, this is an epigraph of our constitutional democracy. the president of the united states is twitter shaming, cyber bullying his attorney general because the attorney general refused to engage in unethical conduct to protect the president. we are on new ground. presidents and cabinet secretaries, you're going to talk to one later in the show, they've had policy disputes. have we ever seen a president ask a cabinet secretary to engage in unethical conduct and then rebuke them publicly when they have refused? >> and what is so amazing about this, it's ongoing.

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