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nations formations. the success we've had in florida. i can cite the statistics. it's important. look at how people are voting with their feet. they're leaving california. leaving illinois, new york, and they're coming to florida in records numbers because we're doing it right. not only have i cut taxes big time where she didn't as governor of south carolina, we've paid down 25% of our state's debt. that's how you manage the third largest state in this country. just imagine if we could do that for the united states of america. >> so thank you. let's stay on foreign policy. i want to turn to the israel-hamas war. you both said you unequivocally support israel. you both have called for the elimination of hamas. governor desantis, there are real disagreements within israel about how to handle what happens in gaza after the war against hamas is over. some israeli cabinet officials are pushing for the mass removal of palestinians from gaza. governor haley told cnn last week, she does not support that. do you? >> so we got to support israel.

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without riern. when you look at the strikes happening in iraq and syria, that is baugh iran. they're pulling the puppet strings. what we need to do is the idea that we've had over 130 strikes on our men and women in iraq and syria is unconscionable. we're supposed to have their backs. and biden has been slow. he has been hiding in a corner, and he hasn't dealt with it. we need to go and take out every bit of the production that we have that's allowing them to do those strikes. it's hugely important that we do that. and you can't do that if you have a secretary of defense that is in icu and the president doesn't even know about it. what bothers me how does biden not talk to his secretary of defense every single day knowing that we have a war in europe, a war in the middle east, that we have our american military with strikes going on, and we've got brain injuries. my husband is deployed right now as a military spouse, the idea that the secretary of defense would not even be in contact with the president, much less in contact with his staff is unforgivable. >> governor desantis?

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flipped and said there should be the law involved. she said she supports a federal law. i here is the deal. back to that young kid in the town hall she had where he said nikki haley, you are the new john kerry, you are for it, before you were against it. [ applause ] >> it's a shame that we had to put up desantis lies dot-com. if he would spend as much time trying to prove why he thinks he would be a good president, he would be doing better in the polls. the reason he spent and blown through $150 million and gone down in the polls is because he spent more time trying to lie about me than he is about telling the truth about himself. >> but you didn't kill the bathroom bill. >> i never said we should have any gender operations or -- >> the -- >> governor haley has the floor. >> when it comes to the bathroom bill, first of all, that was ten years ago. we had a handful of kids that may have had that issue. what i made clear at that time

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and why it is they're saying senior citizens can no longer afford the live in florida. so that's the first thing i'll say. we don't need him doing that tower country. when it comes to the gas tax, when we eliminate that federal tax, the money is collected in the states and they send to it the feds. the feds attack a lot of strings to it and send it back. 75% comes from the state. 25% comes from the federal government. what they do when they add those strings is they pay for a lot of things that aren't roads, green spaces, sidewalks, all of those things, but they attack strings. i want that money to stay in states. i want the states to be able to decide how to spend it. i don't want washington bureaucrats deciding what we need for scenery and green space and all those other things. i want every state make decisions on how they spend their road spending instead of the federal government. >> governor desantis, your response. >> she kind of admitted that she did try to raise the gas tax. she is on video saying this. >> you snipped that.

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this is a pro-american freedom loving country. and we better remember that you have to be a friend to get a friend. and we needed a lot of friends september 12th. we've got to make sure that we're having the backs of the right friends, because if russia wins, china wins. there is a reason that taiwanese want us to help the ukrainians, and that's because they know if ukraine wins, china won't invade taiwan. this is about preventing war. >> governor desantis? [ applause ] >> i supported trump's policy vis-a-vis russia, ukraine. and it was successful. the biden polls has not been. but nikki haley is basically a carbon copy of what biden is. it's an open ended commitment. they want another $800 billion. they will not tell you when they have achieved their goal. this is going to go on maybe hundreds of billions more into the future. i think a lot of people have died. we need to find a way to end this. because our priorities for national security, of course,

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every day. why is congress the only group that refuses to balance a budget? we'll stop the spending. we'll stop the borrowing. we'll eliminate the pet projects and the earmarks, and i'll veto any spending bill that doesn't take us back to precovid levels. and then we want to make sure that we allow the middle class to breathe. we're going to eliminate the federal gas and diesel tax in this country and cut taxes on the middle class and simplify those brackets. and then we want to make the small business tax cuts permanent. they made corporate tax cuts permanent, but they made small business tax cuts temporary. small businesses are the heartbeat of america. we need to prove it by making those tax cuts permanent. >> governor desantis, what's your response? how would you make those essentials more affordable for americans? >> well, i disagree with ambassador haley. we don't need an accountant in the white house, we need a leader in the white house. and that's what i would bring. >> i've spoken with iowans, visiting all 99 counties and also folks all across this country. the american dream is slipping

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carolina, we sold and we exported everything we were making this south carolina. when i'm president, we will sell and export everything that is being made in iowa to those that are our friends, not enemies. >> governer desantis, your response? >> the way you deal with china is threefold. one, we need more horde power in the indo-pacific. i am a navy guy. we need more sea power. we will build that up and have a strategy to deny their ability to envad taiwan or to get beyond the first island chain. they will take advantage of biden. second, we got to decouple our economy, particularly things that are nationally -- significant to our national survival. you've got to be methodical, strategic. there are a lot of moving parts. we are going to do that. nikki haley is not going to be able to do that because her supporters make a lot of money in china. she is going to talk tough but she will cave. here in the united states she is saying they shouldn't be buying land and be in the universities when she was governor of south

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to answer questions, 60 seconds for responses and rebuttals, and 15 seconds for clarifications. timing lights will remind you when time is expiring. >> we also remind our audience here in the sheslow auditorium at drake university to be respectful so the candidates can hear the questions and can hear each other. >> just hours ago, the republican field narrowed once again former new jersey governor chris christie ended his bid for the presidency. so with one fewer candidate in the running, let's start with the decision voters here in iowa are about to face. governor desantis, why should voters who are looking for an alternative to the current front-runner, former president trump, vote for you rather than former governor haley? >> well, the people of iowa, good evening. it's great to be in iowa and have a debate here. donald trump is running to pursue his issues. nikki haley is running to her

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administration, social security will be unable to pay full benefits in a decade if no action is taken. governer desantis, you have said you are not going to, quote, mess with social security, unquote. does that mean you have committed to never raising the retirement age and never cutting benefits? >> so all seniors out there promise has been made to you. you have paid into this. every paycheck you had your entire life they have taken money out of and that promise needs to be fulfilled. that will happen when i'm president. of course, i have a lot of seniors in florida that depend on social security. i think back to my own grandmother who lived to 91. social security was her sole source of income. promise made, promise kept. retirement age, people say, well, life expectancy is going up, shouldn't it mirror that? the problem in the last five years is life expectancy is going down. so i don't see how you can raise the retirement age when our life expectancy is collapsing in this

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they don't follow the laws to come into this country, they won't follow the laws when they are in this country. and we have to start treating this like it is. this is putting harm on our schools, on our hospitals, taxpayers are paying for it. you see these mayors are now upset about it. the only reason eric adams is now upset. why? he shouldn't be a sanctuary city then. that's why we have to defund sanctuary cities. now governor abbott finally did to them what's been happening to texas for so long. we've got to put an end to this. it's dangerous. >> thank you, governor. >> fentanyl -- >> governor desantis? [ applause ] there are more than ten million undocumented immigrants already living in the united states, according to pew research. will any of them be allowed to stay in the united states under your administration? >> the number of people that will be amnestied when i am president will be zero. we cannot do an amnesty in this country. first of all, it's going to cause more people to want to come illegally. so you got to enforce the law.

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