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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - CNN - 20101222:12:35:00

just over 90 minute's time, president obama is scheduled to sign the repeal of don't ask, don't tell. the military's ban on openly gay soldiers. >> and after that, he'll be heading to hawaii to join his wife and kids for a little r & r. ed henry is already there and paid a visit to pearl harbor where he found two gay veterans who say they've been waiting a long time for this day to come. >> reporter: we came here to gauge reaction to the president's historic signing of the repeal of don't ask, don't tell. and we found two gay veterans living in this state saying there are gay veterans all around the world, maybe even some entombed in the wreckage of the uss "arizona" behind me. they served in the u.s. military long before don't ask, don't tell. back then, gay people were simply banned from serving, and jeff who was in the air force and not open about his sexuality says it was like being hunted. >> when i was in the military in

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - CNN - 20101222:23:42:00

this man said there were some in his unit who did not like serving with gays, but he said it never affected the operations. you think it is justice served for people who have had to keep their sexuality secret? >> i think so. think i so. those people are soldiers and marines or whatever first, and they do what they are told just like the rest of us did. >> reporter: a long time coming for jeff and dale. >> i thought it would come sooner. >> yes. sooner. >> but it is here now. >> we are happy. >> very pleasing to live long enough to see it. >> yes. >> reporter: now they are pleased indeed, but the big question moving forward is whether or not this is going to be implemented quickly or whether it will take hold and whether some of the service chiefs like the commandant who have expressed public concerns will follow through with it. the president said he has spoken to all service chiefs including the commandant, and they said they will implement this smartly

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - CNN - 20101222:12:37:00

for jeff and dale. >> thought it'd come sooner, but it's here now. >> we're happy. >> it's very pleasing to live long enough to see it. >> reporter: i came here to pearl harbor expecting to see more people opposed to the repeal. we spoke to veterans and non-veterans of all ages and they largely said this was a long time coming and would've happened sooner except for politics. john, carol? >> times have changed. president obama's scheduled to sign that repeal of don't ask, don't tell at 9:15 eastern this morning. so many people are expected to witness the signing, they had to rent out an auditorium to accommodate them. >> a big signing day for the president. we'll bring you that live here on cnn. although decision day in the senate. a health care bill meant to provide free medical treatment to 9/11 rescue workers. may come up for a senate vote later on today. coming up next, the personal stories behind all of this political wrangling. what happened to our firefighter here rows? heroes?

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - CNN - 20101221:03:11:00

>> well, it's consistent with us because he mailed this book to us. it was a how-to book of how to sexually abuse children. and it was a depiction in writing. therefore, it's clearly a vice of florida law. and quite frankly, the problem is, as our attorney just said, there's too much hand-ringing across the nation. when we can't stand together as a nation and say you can't write a book and depict realtime stories, real stories of children being sexually abused, then it's time to change the law. because you can not sexually abuse children and write about it in a book. that's illegal and that's why he's in jail. >> jeff, it wasn't a fiction book. there was at least a couple of real-life accounts, jeff. >> but, still, it's words, it's stories as the sheriff said. and stories are not illegal in this country. you know, the reason we have

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - CNN - 20101221:04:11:00

>> let me ask about one more thing that's come up, jeff. you heard the story from the sheriff there, undercover detectives were involved and solicited the materials from greaves and brought him back to florida. could any of this in any way be considered entrapment? >> i don't think so. i think this is clearly a legitimate law enforcement investigation. and if, for example, greaves had mailed to the detectives actual photographs of children having sex, i think this prosecution would be more than justified. but -- i don't think there's any problem with what the detectives did. i think this law is too broad under the first amendment. and i think it brings in material distasteful though it is, that is protected under our constitution. >> sheriff judd, there's a lot of distasteful material out there and i was going to the amazon.com today, "diary of a pedophile" lots of books that people could be concerned about based on what you're saying. what do you do about books like that?

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - CNN - 20101221:07:13:00

sexually abuse children. and it was a depiction in writing. therefore, it's clearly a vice -- violation of florida law. and quite frankly, the problem is, as our attorney just said, there's too much hand-ringing across the nation. when we can't stand together as a nation and say you can't write a book and depict realtime stories, real stories of children being sexually abused, then it's time to change the law. because you can not sexually abuse children and write about it in a book. that's illegal and that's why he's in jail. >> jeff, it wasn't a fiction book. there was at least a couple of real-life accounts, jeff. >> but, still, it's words, it's stories as the sheriff said. and stories are not illegal in this country. you know, the reason we have kiddy porn laws is because the very act of taking a photograph

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - CNN - 20101221:04:09:00

that gave us jurisdiction. a circuit judge gave us a warrant and the rest is history. he's in jail. >> now, police in colorado just to be clear, sheriff, did investigate greaves last month after the story came out but found that he wasn't violating colorado law. how does that work? is it because the internet and its impact on the entire world? >> well, the internet has made everything a local event. and what our law says is that you can't set in colorado, and violate florida law any more than you can sit in florida and violate florida law. when he transmitted, sold or delivered that book to us, and in polk county, florida, he violated florida law and that's why we were able to put him in jail and the pueblo police were fantastic in assisting us in this investigation. >> let me bring in jeffrey toobin. i alluded to this. what about the first amendment here? this is the distasteful. i have three daughters. jeff you have kids. it's terrible distasteful stuff.

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - CNN - 20101221:06:11:00

us. it was a how-to book of how to sexually abuse children. and it was a depiction in writing. therefore, it's clearly a vice of florida law. and quite frankly, the problem is, as our attorney just said, there's too much hand-ringing across the nation. when we can't stand together as a nation and say you can't write a book and depict realtime stories, real stories of children being sexually abused, then it's time to change the law. because you can not sexually abuse children and write about it in a book. that's illegal and that's why he's in jail. >> jeff, it wasn't a fiction book. there was at least a couple of real-life accounts, jeff. >> but, still, it's words, it's stories as the sheriff said. and stories are not illegal in this country. you know, the reason we have kitty porn laws is because the

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amendment. the supreme court dealt with a situation similar to this in 2002 where a federal law said any sort of depiction of child pornography including cartoons are unlawful. and the supreme court said that was unconstitutional because the only kind of kiddy porn that can be prohibited is actual depictions of actual sex involving children. and this book, as awful as it is, is only words, as you said. it is mostly two fictional stories about pedophilia and that, i think, is a statement of opinion. it is a statement of a kind of art. and it is not constitutional to arrest him for engaging in that kind of speech. >> let me ask about one more thing that's come up, jeff. you heard the story from the sheriff there, undercover detectives were involved and solicited the materials from greaves and brought him back to florida.

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - CNN - 20101221:10:11:00

law. because you can not sexually abuse children and write about it in a book. that's illegal and that's why he's in jail. >> jeff, it wasn't a fiction book. there was at least a couple of real-life accounts, jeff. >> but, still, it's words, it's stories as the sheriff said. and stories are not illegal in this country. you know, the reason we have kitty porn laws is because the very act of taking a photograph of a children engaged in sex is a crime. because a crime is taking place. you need a crime to take a picture of it for children's pornography. this is just words. we have no way of knowing whether anything in this book is true. we don't have police investigate whether stories that people write in books are true. as awful as this is, the core of the first amendment is about

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