was stopped there on the left. they were celebrating bastille day, marking france s independence day. with bodies left on the street at this hour where they fell. now, reports on circulating that an id card was found after officials shot the driver. they say it is a french citizen that came from tunisia, and kitty logan is it live in the london bureau. reporter: we are learning some details about the attacker. he hasn t been named. they say he was a 31-year-old man. he did have eye criminal record for violence, he was not on any terror watch list. he fired a weapon into the crowd as he drove. police did eventually shoot and kill him. you see the bullet holes visible in that truck. weapons were discovered inside that vehicle. horrific eyewitness reports xwlg out, how he drove that heavy truck toward people, celebrating bastille day. eyewitness reports than he drove at speed. an attempt to kill as many people as possible. we now know that 84 people have died in that attack. two of them are believed to be american citizens. we understand that there are children amongst the casualties. a photo of a dog, next to a body, heart-breaking, showing the carnage and toll this has taken. what more what do we know? reporter: it was an intentional terrorist attack. so far, there have been no claim of responsibility. security analysts are saying that isis has been calling for this attack to be called out somewhere and at some time. the obvious question, why intelligence weren t able to prevent it. if the attacker went under the radar, there were police present at the bastille day celebrations, they weren t able to stop the truck until it was too late. the french president extending the state of emergency, it will extended. one of the victims is an 11-year-old boy from texas, visiting with his father. now to amy kellogg, live from the scene at nis. any updates? well, it is a very heart-breaking scene. i managed to get down to the promm pr promondad. it is such a shock. and i spoke to guests, who took shelter in another hotel. tourists on the verge of tears, a middle aged man said it was the most beautiful night. in fact, there was a military parade and police walking down the promonade. there was music, fireworks, and then the horrific attack, with the big truck that mowed down so many, 84 we know now died. this was something so unexpected. we haven t seen this sort of attack. you can only imagine what was going through their minds. where their gunmen around. was there more than one person intending to inflict harm. people were frightened enough to have experienced what happened. the anxiety of what might have followed. and the fear of hiding in basements, hotels, and stairs, a beautiful place, want a place that you think would be the scene of carnage. it is a holiday place. a beautiful part of the world on the mediterranean sea. and it is doing its best to get back to life. there are cars on the street. people on their scooters, people in the cafes having breakfast. people with suitcases, you want to get out after being here for such a horrific thing. that leads me to my next comment. the sadness, i can only imagine, the confusion, and walking around as you mentioned, dazed this morning. how to gentleman on about feeling safe there this morning. reporter: i think there is a heavy police presence, certainly, there it was last night. what a lot of people said to me on the beach, how did the truck get through the road, for the parade and the fireworks, and concerts what not last night. pea are speculating there was confusion, that maybe the truck had something to do with the fireworks display. find that hard to believe. that is something that people are asking themselves. of course, if he was as we know now, armed going at speed, it will be possible to blow three barriers, people don t understand, that police presence last night, and the state of emergency in france, and the country on high alert, how it could have happened. possibly, paris has been a target for terrorist attacks, in the last year, nearly 150 people, before today had been killed in terrorist attacks, the well-documented ones that we have covered and people heard about. paris is in a way, this was clearly a soft target for this individual to strike. we will check back with you throughout the morning. amy referenced a question that you would think police would have had barricades, like concrete blocks to stop a vehicle from intentionally plowing into a crowd. tens of thousands watching the fireworks right on the mediterranean. american cities are equipped to keep us safe. former special investigator. we don t know exactly what precautions, if any, the police took to block a vehicle from coming into the crowd. amy referred to that what type of preventable planning could have been to try to prevent this? my heart goes out to the victims and their families. a horrendous tragedy. even in new york, look at the macy s parade, a major, major event. all the police departments do, is use wooden barriers, for years, you can t move concrete blocks around like that n and out quickly. things have to be broken down quickly. it is really, really difficult. my concern earlier is how many americans or how many other tourists could have been in the areas. to the cruise lines, there were seven ships in port, four supposed to arrive now as we are speaking. i don t know if they are repositioned to other ports, that is what is going on. i have been there, i stayed at that hotel last summer, it is a beautiful area, if you have ever been there. the question s can it happen here? after orlando, and last weekend, everything else, i have not seen the terror threat elevated in this country like years ago. is congress going to ask us to ban trucks as well as guns? nchlthsds we take more protection. they pull sanitation trucks, we go to a street fair, a local officer, and cones and a wooden horse. that is not going to stop anything. it is for rejit mate traffic control. you can t stop anybody. change the way we proprietary in america? if you have a street fair, some big gathering at the mall, get the concrete blocks, and the garbage trucks to block egress from terrorists from mowing people down? it the best defense is a good offense. up our intelligence game and we are nobody is leading. i listen to hillary clinton this evening, i was shocked that she called bill o reilly, she did. she said that when she was secretary of state, she instituted a group to fight terrorism. well, how is that working out, madame secretary? she didn t use islamic terrorism. she didn t use the word islamic. i played it over three times to make sure. you think there is more recognition of this than the president, who she used to work for? we have to wake up. there is no recognition. they have declared war on us, we have not declared war on them yet. france s president asked to envoke the nato charter, he revoked his asking for it. maybe it has to be revoked again. you have turkey in there, that is one of the issues we are hearing tonight. isis headquarters is miles from there, we are sending out aircraft, coming back with bombs on board, we are fighting a politically correct war. that it would play into isis s hands. trying to divide the muslim world. to say that we can t bomb them, because we are concerned, when we were going to bomb the oil trucks, we were worried about the drivers of the truck was civilians. that is no different than a getaway truck in a robbery. just as guilty as those selling the oil. what we are doing now, isn t working. it is heart wrenching, everybody wants to live in peace. the book i wrote the conversion policy. it is frightening, some of the things that i wrote in the book are coming true. we have to go. my heart goes out to everybody. as do ours. we know that t eric, thank you. american victims, not confirmed, that is the news that will be coming over as people are identified. have a good evening. new reports surfacing that donald trump has selected indiana governor mike pence, he was going to announce, but cancelled that in wake of the attack in france. he still hasn t made up his mind. here we go again. there is no respect for law and order, no respect for anything or anybody. this has to be dealt with harshly. when i come out with my nonpolitically correct statement that is a lot of people love, some people think are so terrible, you have attacks like this. let s see what happens with this one. it is early to tell. i think perhaps you are not wronlg the way the started this question. we have to get awfully tough, and very, very smart and vigilant. if we don t, we won t have a society, we won t have a world anymore. it is so early in the investigation, all the haulmark of terrorism. we saw that last november 13th. we all jump to conclusions, assuming this is terrorism, you were president of the united states, what would you do right now? i would make it hard for them to come into our country, we hillary clinton wants to allow 550 more than obama, and we have no idea who they are, from syria, many times they don t have documentation, i would not allow people to come in from terr terrorist nations. our country has trmp problems, we don t need more problems, right now, more investigations of this kind than we have had in the history of our country. we are going to allow thousands and tens of thousands of people coming in. you see a situation like in nice, france. that isaise horrible thing. i am talking about our country, i am almost talking about the world. look whag is going on in france and other countries, it is bedlum. we don t know, this is an on-going investigation. we have the situation in orlando. that was homegrown terrorism. they are not just people trying to come into the country. we don t know if it is someone that is a french citizen, is there something that the president should be doing? should we be calling the new prime min stir may? we do see a lot of attacks in this world? second generation turns out to be very bad for whatever reason. second generation. who knows the new one in france. maybe it is not, you problem have a good gut instinct. you look what happens, calling heads of countries, we have to tighten things up. look at san bernardino there, the way they came n she probably radicalized them. you look at paris, plir to this, 130 people dead, hundreds still in the hospital. what are we doing? trying to be nice, civil. we are so weak, the world has 20 strengthen up. this isn t 40 years ago, this is a different world. trying to be so politically correct and making big mistakes. you denied you made a decision, governor mike pence, is reporting they think is your presidential nominee. he said calls to ban muslims from the united states are offensive and inconstitutional. how would you reconcile that? i am not going to agree with anybody. many people would like this position. the polls are strong, and stronger and stronger every day. a lot of people want this position. a lot of people want this position. there is nobody that agrees with me fully on anything. there will always be someone who disashs gras on emp a muslim ban, or something. i haven t made my final decision. i have three people who are fantastic. i think newt is a fantastic person, i think chris christy is a fantastic person, a friend of mine for 15 years, and mike has done a great job in indiana. a fantastic job. i haven t made the final, final decision. let me go back tosh nice, and terrorism. what do you think that president obama will do tonight about this? and contrast is. it is radical, fist it is. it may not be. i am in you are in the same position i am. i don t think they come out of sweden. if it is radical islamic terrorism, it is about to time to say so. you won t solve the problem until you define it people would sigh with relief, if he would say it. it doesn t want to say it. let s see who did it, what it is all about. if it is again, like an orlando, like in san bernardino. like in paris, and the world trade center. if it is radical islamic terrorism. we are taking people into our country, we don t know who they are. we can t let people from terr terroristings. someone said that trump is the law and order candidate. i am the great trade candidate, i am indeed the law and order candidate. hillary created isis, with her stupid policies. if this turns out to be another attack from radical islam. we will have to take our president, who will have to finally admit and do something about it. more blood shed. a former navy seal weighing in when we come back. has been a struggle. i considered all my options with my doctor, who recommended once-daily toujeo®. now i m on the path to better blood sugar control. toujeo® is a long-acting insulin from the makers of lantus®. it releases slowly, providing consistent insulin levels for a full 24 hours, proven full 24-hour blood sugar control, and significant a1c reduction. 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the sooner we admit that, we can address what is happening globally. how do we prevent this from popping up in places like this. they have been in a state of emergency, 10,000 soldiers protecting the streets, so many things to try to protect their people, yet this still happens. it is a slippery slope. by and large, we have always had a reactionary response to tororrism. we are taking the page out of the brits, the israelis are effective, the israeli model is the model. they do behaviorioral profiling. we learned in iraq and afghanistan, we were engaging chechens, blond-haired, blue eyed radical islamic terrorists. the israelis wrote the book. this is classic overwatch. they must have had an organized attack, where people were watching the street. the truck went down at exactly the time when they were, it tells me there was a correspondented attack, there were probably with people on roof tops with cell phones, relaying when is the perfect time to do this. we have to shut down isis, instagram page, the gamut of social media, and prosecute thoids who let this prop gate. as the news, starting to collapse around syrian. this is just the start, believe me. we need too unvetted individual says into the country. until we can vet them, we have to stop it completely. thank you very much for joining us tonight. he referred to israel, i was there the other week, they had eight security checks before you got to the airplane. here in our country, we had two. again, we are shocked and horrified by what is another terrorist attack. when we come back, president obama and others react to the massacre in nice. president obama addresses the nation, kelly, what can you tell us. reaction to the attack in nice has been swift. lawmakers have know been condemning the attack, and agrees that america stands with france. regarding the tragic loss of life, president obama in a statement, said, quote, our thoughts and prayers are with the families, and other loved ones of those killed. we stand in solidarity with france, our oldest ally. speak of the house, paul ryan saying, we must stand strong with our dear friend and ally, france. tens of thousands had gather ed on bastille day. house democrats, calling for gun control, paused for a moment of silence for those who died in france. jim cliburn saying it brings great sorrow to all of us. both candidates are reacting, hillary clinton said, the u.s. needs to stand strongly with france, including with nato, to ferret out terrorism and donald trump. i post-poned tomorrow s news conference concerning my vice presidential announcement. and mitch mcconnell said, what will not change, america stands with the people of france, as they grieve for the tragic loss of life. we stand with them in recovery. the u.s. government is offering assistance, homeland security jay johnson, is receiving regular briefings on the attack. what more can we learn about this terrorist, and how he pulled it off. bobby, thank you for joining us. what we know now, a 31-y50er8d man, french citizen, lived in nice, known to police for petty crimes, not for terrorism. what could this potentially tell you? i think what they are going to find out is that he is either alone actor, or an actor with a very small group around him. i think he, probably some level of self radicalization going on, or a small job. what we are mostly interested in, did he have a mosque that he went to, a group of friends, did people know him as a radical? those are the things we will find out in the early hours of the investigation. how do they do this? they found out if he could be part of a cell, as the previous guest says, coordinating with people on cell phones, asking when is the optimal time to get on that promenade and do this horrible carnage. you go to the family, the workplace. he will have a lot of contacts, those shouldn t be hard to gemerate leads from. a picture of this guy, will come into focus quickly. in the first day, first couple of days, we will know more about him. who he was, and that will lead to who he was associated with. what kind of activity he was involved in. are you seeing, as an investigator, a pattern here. brothers involved in petty type crimes, maybe not complete radical indoctrinated in the beginning, there seems to be something spawned in the jails when it comes to this? well, i thinks that those type of people that are without opportunity, without the means to separate to leverage their skill sets, i think that the ang prisons are successful for that reason. these guys their life of crime, or gain bigger notoriety. we have seen this in the past. from los angeles, we thank you for joining us on the fox news channel. tragedy hit france again, the death toll rising to 84 people. the former police chief of the boston police department, on how to keep us safe. it began as a day of joyful celebration, and ended in unspeakable horror. terrorists strike without warning with tragic consequences. on the phone we have chief davis, no stronger to terrorism. he lead the investigation into the boston bombing that killed three in 2013. how can this have happened? this is a big event, you handled many large events, how does the truck get to that location and to do that man did? it is a terrible video, it is reminisce senlt of 2013 in boston. a much larger scale. we have been working with sports ven views, to stop this from happening. it happened in other parts of the world, there has to be steps taken to block off the street the beginning and the beginning of the route. it is difficult in cloud venus, along the beach. to shut a very complex process. not covered properly here. as you are say, you can t block off all the areas, what more can be done? clearly, we have to be aware of our intelligence to prevent things like this happen. why are just putting a band aid on a huge problem. we have known about it since 1998. when bin laden issued his declaration from war, children are dying now, it has to stop. we are going to continue to have celebrations like this. how do we protect ourselves in the meantime? take common sense measures, covered as many avenues where you will never make someone 100% secure. they take the initiative. and we are closing gaps afterwards, which never works. what are some of the first steps you would like to see taken in the event of this now? clearly, this people will be thinking of doing it in other places. the dpmpt hs training is what we are training what to do if this is an act ive. this could be any coastal areas on the east coast or west coach. it could happen anybody with very simple tools. s. a new weapon, and a new battle ground. french investigators. test test test test you owned your car for four years. you named it brad. you loved brad. and then you totaled him. you two had been through everything together. two boyfriends, three jobs. you re like nothing can replace brad. then liberty mutual calls. and you break into your happy dance. if you sign up for better car replacement™, we ll pay for a car that s a model year newer with 15,000 fewer miles than your old one. liberty stands with you™. liberty mutual insurance. the driver said to be a 31-year-old french citizen, who lived in nice, but originally from tunisia. he is an expert on islamic terrorism. how can we stop this? we haven t changed our tacti tactics, it has been a decade since 9/11. the war on drugs, started it in the 1980s, same problem when you wage a war on terrorism. in order for us to find a new tactic. almost 9:00 in the morning in paris, they will have a special emergency meeting. he has been up all night. is it possible when you have the big government structure togs get in the mind of a young man who was intent of killing us. what we need to do is challenge their narrative on the internet. they put it out all the time. not challenged by us. you hit it on the head. it is like a disrupture. one person can cause mass carnage. look at them like they look at sexual predators on line. they try to recruit this person. we have to use the same tactic, building resiliency in our communiti communities. they have societyial issues we don t have in our country. how do you counter the seduction of isis, are you looking at it 2:00 in the morning. we need to give, for example, in the month of ramadan. a thousand people killed by them. when young recruits look at isis, they are looking at the violence. young people. a way for us to change the di they are in the west, not true muslims, that sort of thing. what you saw that isis kill ed one of the things whether it is on good le, we start showing the true face of isis. 20 seconds or so will we win? light always over shadows darkness, and isis is true darkness. it is chilling that it is striking almost in inpunity. we have to stop it. how do we do it? thank you so much for your insight and the work you do trying to deal with it. absolutely. 84 have been killed. we will bring you the latest on france throughout the night. it is a horrendously sad and sorrowful day in east france. it has happened again as we were reporting. you know last november, 130 people were killed in paris, and now in the luxurious city of nice, they have not been spared. this is the fox news continuing coverage of the attack in nice. a truck ramming through a crowd of people, killing at least 84 and injuring at least a dozen more. now a u.s. intelligence official tells fox news that two americans, a father and son,
officials hope will be an all out sprint to the finish before election day. making closing arguments. this will be an election of kavanaugh, the caravan, law and order and common sense. reporter: while the president told the associated press he bears no responsibility in republicans lose the house, he s made the mid terms about himself. a vote for marsha is really a vote for me. a vote for me. a vote for me. for me. pretend i m on ballot. reporter: watch for the president the try to fire up his base with a focus on the economy. we have the hottest economy on earth. reporter: his supreme court win. come election day americans will remember kavanaugh. reporter: and immigration with a new threat to mexico. that the president will close the southern border as a caravan of central american migrants escaping violence is on the move in guatemala. my colleague jeff benefit nett the white house. we have reports on what the president plans to do and how this plays into the that line. talk us through what you re hearing. reporter: there s a lot here. we know president trump wants this election to be all about him. the president telling his supporters it s his presidency on the ballot, on the line. now you have president trump delivering his most direct attempt yesterday to delegitimize democrats. the choice could not be more clear, democrats produce mobs. republicans produce jobs. reporter: as for that new reporting, in the 18 days that remain between now and election day, president trump s going to spend a lot of time many the states that he won in 2016 where there s a democratic senator on the ballot. states like indiana, missouri, north dakota, montana and that snapshot you re seeing there really exemplifies why it s so difficult for democrats to retake the senate in the november election. there are ten democratic senators up for re-election in states that donald trump not only won but states he swept in 2016. the only real exception to that is nevada where you have dean heller as the republican incumbe incumbent. anybody looking for sort of thoughtful, nuanced policy discussion a couple of weeks out from the election isn t going to get it. the president is talking in broad strokes about brett kavanaugh and immigration. he also promoting brute force. language that is shocking if not entirely surprising at this point. jeff bennett there on the white house north lawn with his carry on bag packed for the next couple of weeks. the gang is all here. let s start with what jeff teed us up on. the montana representative pleaded guilty for attacking a reporter. here is what the president said. greg is smart. never wrestle him. you understand that. never. any guy that can do a body slam is my guy. we endorsed greg very early. i heard he body slammed a reporter. i said, this is terrible. he s going to lose the election. then i said, wait a minute. i know montana pretty well. i think it might help him and id it did. crowd loved it, critics did not. the red meat element that trump has always gone to is criticism of the press. the mainstream media is not treating him fairly. is it one thing to complain about fair coverage and another to talk about physical assault. is it inappropriate? of course. is this an awful time to be attacking the press? of course. in terms of firing up republican voters heading into those midterms criticism of the press will probably remain part of the arsenal. it will be but the president is adding a couple of things to that like mobs and jobs. it rimhymes. it remains people of the excesses of the left, the things they are worried about. the president talking something he has been discussing this week like on fox dmwhich i this migrant caravan. some 4,000 migrants looking to escape violence are making their way, they are expected to be at the u.s. border within maybe two to four weeks potentially. the president is jumping on this one. absolutely. this is an incredibly salient issue for republicans. if you look at numerous polls out this week. illegal immigration is the number one issue for republican voters. more than the economy and jobs. more than anything else. the big tax bill was going to be thing republicans doesn t talk about. it didn t have the saliency they were hoping it would. immigration worked in 2016 and he hopes it will work again. they are letting hundreds of people released into the communities. released into our state. never to show up to the court date and then we have this freaking caravan. what is going on? this is insanity. we have got to work with president trump and crack down hard to make sure we secure our border. so not just a caravan but a freaking caravan. now the president is talking about how maybe perhaps he s getting paid to come up toward election day which there s no evidence of. i covered the politics in az o arizona. they have been paying attention to this issue for years. hearing the president harp on it is really important to them. it will rally them to come out. you talk about the base, the quote, unquote trump coalition. i talk to top white house officials, there s an analogy that caught my ear. one person said the president never really stopped going on the road. he never stopped 2016. it s like car engine. you have to keep it going and the president did that. we think that s an advantage. this is where he s comfortable. he loves the rallies, the chance. the chants of lock her up. he s never stopped campaigning. given he has a sealing of 40% approval, he will never be able to stop come paining. he will be rolling straight through 2016 to 2020. nevada tomorrow. early voting starts in nevada tomorrow. i m told the president will be hammering that as he gets out there tomorrow to campaign for dean heller. i m sure he will be. he s going to a place in rural nevada. largest city in rural nevada to try to generate the kind of turn out in the rules that dean heller needs to win. they the well in early voting. the only way for a republican to win statewide in nevada is to get high turn out around the places that donald trump is going. there s two urban areas. the entire rest of the state. the other 15 counties are as red as you can get. that s where heller will do well. he was not that close to trump a couple of years ago and now it s a mutual love affair. maybe a marriage of convenience, but he can really help heller in rural nevada. that s why he s going there. what about the piece of this, president obama is heading to nevada in a couple of days. the presidents converge on a critical race. you have dean heller 38% among likely latino voters. is that a strong number for him or do democrats see that as place they can pick out folks. i think the democrats might be worried about hispanic turn out. not only is president obama coming on monday, joe biden, the former vice president is coming tomorrow, and he s coming to the s culinary union is the big turn out operation for hispanics in this state. maybe biden and trump will have a debate while they are both here. highly unlikely, my friend. seriously, the democrats are worried about turn out in the mid term in nevada. they do badly with turn out here in midterms. it s very stark contrast to how well they do in presidential elections because of the so-called read machine here. as soon as trump announced his visit, the democrats announced that obama and biden were coming down here to clark county to make sure democratic and hispanic turn out is as high as they can get it. one thing we ll talk about later in the show is as republicans focus on immigration, democrats are going on health care. that s the most motivating issue for voters. the political points, every one is looking at this blue wave over the summer. things seem to have maybe started to tighten up a bit. not necessarily likely according to the experts but maybe more likely than it was. it s definitely possible if not trending towards likely that they can maintain the majority. you think trending toward likely. trending towards likely. it s a cliche that it s about turn outs. republicans do better in these midterm elections over these past decades. not the last time we ll see both you have on this program. coming up after the break, former campaign manager paul manafort is due back in court with word now he s been in close contact with the special counsel. u.n. ambassador who decided to step down had a couple of colorful things to say last night. elizabeth warren failed her dna test. actually, when the president found out that i was indian american, he asked me if i was from the same tribe as elizabeth warren. 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it s 100% normal. it s what he agreed to do when he pled guilty to those two counts last month. paul manafort is in jail. he was one job right now and that s to convince robert mueller he is cooperating so thoroughly that mueller will recommend to the judge a reduced sentence on these crimes that he s pleaded guilty to. pa paul manafort could be the most important witness on whether the trump campaign cluolluded with russia. he was the chairman when the russians started releasing the hacked e-mails. could answer the question whether there was a conspiracy and whether donald trump knew that they had been hacked by the russians. these hours spending with robert mueller, super important. we re showing the agenda for the court hearing today. why is this significant or not? can you explain that? the judge has thrown another monkey wrench as he s been doing into robert mueller s well laid plans. moouler wa mueller wanted to postpone the sentencing until he was fully satisfied with cooperation. judge ellis said that s not how we do things. we need to sentence him quickly. it s possible that manafort could receive a stiff sentence in a few weeks or months and later mueller will file a motion to knock some time off that sentence. the judge rules that paul manafort cannot wear one of his $10,000 suits. he has to wear a jailhouse jump suit like any other convict. don t you hate it when that happens. joining me federal prosecutor. explain your reaction of what you heard from ken and that manafort has been meeting with the special counsel. this hearing today is completely ridiculous. why? this is all about judgeitis t this is judge ellis saying i m important. there s no reason for this hearing. all it s going to do is make the probation department go through the hoops. it will make manafort pay for his lawyers to appear which costs him money. it makes the government come in. they will set a sentencing date and a big fat doover and it s wasted everybody s time. judge ellis feels relevant so i guess we re happy for it. that s one thing. the other is the meetings with mueller is very important. you say 50 hours. everybody jumped up and down about don mcgahn spent 30 hours. this is 50. two days out of every week in the last month have been dedicated to manafort. think about that allocation of r resources. he s not only important on that june meeting, he s also important in the flipping of stone. black, manafort and stone was one of the first political companies in washington to do lobbying and other things. they are very close. they have been close for many, many years. reportedly mueller is asking manafort questions about stone. he s important on the russia front and the flip front. explain what this tells you about the timing of the special counsel investigation overall, if anything? i know there s a lot of talk about mueller s going to be done soon. i don t really see that, frankly. i do think it s important for him to have some kind of report in the can so he s protected in case trump fires sessions and rosenstein or he just fires sessions and rosenstein is no longer in charge. i do think that s important. if he s working on stone and he still hasn t resoevvresolved th question of the trump testimony, that s going to take while. i think things will become more visible after the mid terms but i don t think it will be wrapping up. prepare for disappointment. saying to all the democrats who have been staking their claim on the fact that some bombshell would be dropping, not so fast. i ve spoken to former members of president trump s legal team who say don t assume that there will be this report that goes public. they keep saying why does everybody keep talking about this public report. that s not a guarantee. they don t want a public report to come out necessarily but they are saying it s not baked in. right now when i talk to democratic voters that s not the main thing they are thinking about. they are upset with trump for a lot of reasons but russia isn t the only one. nc president trump is in arizona ahead of midterms. gadi, what you got? 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what do we want? reporter: it was a red wave of teachers crashing into arizona s capital that caught the nation s attention in was a different kind of red. a red for ed. show me what democracy looks like. this is what democracy looks like. reporter: in april we watched as educators marched, demanding more funding for the classrooms and singing about coming back to vote. we will be back to vote in november it was something that i ve never seen before. it was overwhelming but it was like exciting at the same time to see we finally have a voice. reporter: thousands of them millennials just starting their careers in teaching. like friends who helped collect some of the staggering 270,000 signatures that red for ed gathered to get a referendum on investing in education on the ballot. it felt like the ball was in our court. reporter: before the mid terms, a bombshell, their referendum was booted off the ballot. we spent these three months sui sweating our lives away and it was like a little press release on twitter. it feels like the voice of the people isn t being heard. are you worried this thing you fought so hard to get on the ballot, now that it s not on the ballot that people will not show up and vote. i m worried about people being apathetic. the story line goes, we had tens of thousands of people fighting hard in april. we had lots of people out collecting signatures all summer and it s like all those things didn t lead us anywhere. i know a lot of people have a lot of apathy. reporter: it s apathy and frustration they fear might be contagious especially among youngers voters who are already notorious for not showing up for midterms. you voting for midterms? no. why not? it s too complex. i feel like there s a lot going on. it s easy to research it. there s a lack of interest. we just got back from canvassing. reporter: the young teachers here aren t giving up. they are trying to inspire students about the power of their vote. i have more faith in them than our generation and generations beyond us. i think these kids are frustrated with the overall tone of politics in america. they are like we re going to do something about this whether it s march fast break our lives or black lives matter or red for ed. the youth vote will matter. i think it could flip the state. reporter: so far here in arizona almost a almost 18 to 34-year-olds have registered. those teachers hoping a lot more show up in the last midterms when only 19% showed up to the polls. back to you. thank you. i m joined by new york times reporter jeremy peters, eugene scott. not to blow up that guy s spot about voting complicatcomplicat vote.org tells you where to go, what you got to do. this is what always happens in mid term elections and presidential elections. people 18 to 24 vote half as often in the midterms than presidential. what s most alarming for democrats is there was a recent survey that showed millennials are no more likely to vote this election than they were in 2014 which is pretty surprising considering the energy out there. given it s donald trump now in office and given that a lot of these people are democrats, does that fire them up. do you see that being a factor here? it does. they say it makes them angry but whether or not that translates to any actions at the polls, it s something i know they are fretting about and trying to get people out there. they realize the only way to get them to vote, younger people, this didn t awe ppply to older voters is to show them there s a lot on the line and scare them. president obama is trying to do that. he s out with his video saying here s an excuse. here is the reason why that excuse is dumb and why you should vote. you see that video now from president obama. is that going to be effective? the youngs like obama. they like him but, you know, it s going to come down to whether or not they feel that something is personally at stake for them. i don t know that a lot of them really do. definitely. we have to remember there s a big difference between registering to vote and actually showing up. there was a spike among those young people. arizona is also one of those states where during the last presidential election there s been some concern about suppression and difficulty in terms of finding the right poll and getting information to people at the right time. people who already weren t that interested in voting aren t going to like show up if they find it s more difficult whether it is or not. one thing i think gives people the impression millennials will do better is their social media activism has improved. there s lots of tweets and attacks on the internet. 18-year-old are not millennials. we re already in the new generation of the youngs. there are even younger people than millennials. what are they called? 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that is a complicated story. the backdrop to this is that the acting inspector general at the interior has several investigations ongoing tied to the secretary right now. there are numerous cases where a career official is pursuing allegations that involve the secretary and there is this position that, for example, the president is free to nominate someone to occupy this post. what cropped up is late friday hud secretary carson sent out an e-mail congratulating one of his appoi appointees for moving over as acting inspector general. this was news to the inspector general office. this really and apparently folks in the white house who said they were unaware. we and others reported on this. there was scrutiny given the fact this office is investigating matters tied to the secretary and yesterday afternoon interior came out saying it was 100% false information in that e-mail that was secretary carson. at this point the white house is saying they are not nominating this person that she s not take this job although interior does acknowledge her resume was sent over to them and it still seems like a murky situation who will be spearheading these ongoing investigations that relate to the secretary. i need to bring you in here because it s obvious that zinke is not the first administration official to come under scrutiny. let s pull it up here. tom price resigned last year. scott pruitt resigned. david shulkin was fired a though the white house said he resigned. ben carson was under scrutiny for the dining room set and the reports about other stuff that nbc hasn t independently confirmed. when this administration started, it was like an ethics free party going on. there was a whole bunch of people doing travel and other things that when they came to light it didn t look so good. do you think it s changed? you say in the beginning. here we are talking about ryan zinke. what isn t clear is whether it s changed or not. the chief of staff said he had given a talking to all the cabinet members but it s not clear whether it s ongoing or not. a lot of these are older instances. voters aren t going to hold him accountable. thank you for coming on. we re on the campaign trail after the break with 18 days to go till the midterms. democratic hopefuls for 2020 are out in force. presidential run. hillary clinton for the third time. really? why one of her closest former add vie advisers is kind of leaving that door open. airline purchases . think about all the double miles you could be earning. 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bruce is the republican incumbent in this rural district and his challenger jared golden the democrat. they need to flip some trump seats too. history. it swung hard to trump. they ve got a strong candidate with local ties. what is the polling showing us? this just finished up. actually, this says september but there was one that finished up last night that showed this same result, 41% to 41%, poliquin and golden. this is an encouraging number for them. they ve got to finish the job and win this one, but it s not just the suburbs. they need to make some inroads in trump country. keep an eye election night. that could tell you about the direction of the night. steve kornacki, 18 and 18, we ll see you on monday. a lot of the focus on midterms. right now the campaign trail kind of looks like a warmup for 2020. this morning you got senator cory booker making his way to charleston, south carolina, and a mere 213 miles northwest on i-26 senator kamala harris is also in south carolina talking with voters in greenville. mike memly is there with her. they re all there talking ostensibly about 2018 and the midterms, but there are shades of 2020 all over these puppies. reporter: that s for sure. when you have steve there at the big board talking about the key races this year, there s no senate race in south carolina. there s maybe one congressional race, a governor s race that s not really competitive either and just about every democrat who s thinking about running in 2020 is finding some reason to come here to south carolina. as you mentioned, i m with kamala harris. she s about to arrive here. she has two more rallies in south carolina. cory booker in charleston right now. he had three events in south carolina yesterday. mike bloomberg who changed his registration to become a democrat, he was also in south carolina yesterday sitting with the top democrat here in congress, jim cliburn, joe biden was here, michael avenatti. bernie sanders will be here tomorrow. we re used to seeing these guys go to iowa and new hampshire, but nothing quite like the activity we re seeing in south carolina. it has everything to do with helping unlock this 2020 puzzle. hillary clinton would not have been the democratic nominee in 2016 if she did not run up the score in huge margins in these states with significant black populations. that s why we re seeing these candidates come out in force in the last few weeks. in south carolina for us, thank you. as you were talking eugene and tamara were nodding their heads and going, oh, my god. we have not taken enough naps to recover from the 2016 cycle. now we re talking 2020 when we re not even through 2018. i remember in 2014 being in new hampshire covering senate races where hillary clinton showed up so this is well trod territory. this is the time to start, i hate to say it, start campaigning. special when you have a state like south carolina that has a lot of the democrats base. lots of college students, millennials, lots of black women, lots of gay communities and other people who are more likely to vote for the left. as we talk about 2020, i got to mention this. politico, andy kearney has a piece out looking at hillary clinton. we just showed the headline. let s pull it up again here, reporting that she s back on the scene. they say her chances of running they talked to her very close adviser, and can we pull up this quote here? her chances of running are highly unlikely to zero, but not zero. why even crack the door to a third time for hillary clinton when you know republicans, all they want to do is go after hillary clinton? i interviewed hillary clinton in the woods after the election, after her book came out, and she told me she is not running, that she is done. why is he stirring the pot? because he stirs the pot. he likes to do it. he is definitely someone who stirs the pot. it s certainly not a pot that the democratic base care about. people are not interested in hillary clinton right now. they re looking at new faces. that s really interesting. meanwhile, bill and hillary clinton are going on a tour, an arena tour speaking tour, live events. after the midterms. after the midterms. they are not going away. maybe in south carolina. who knows. great to have you. we re going to be back with what your sources are saying and our big picture coming up in a sec. your brain changes as you get older. but prevagen helps your brain with an ingredient originally discovered. in jellyfish. in clinical trials, prevagen has been shown to improve short-term memory. prevagen. healthier brain. better life. today s senior living communities have never been better, with amazing amenities like movie theaters, exercise rooms and swimming pools, public cafes, bars and bistros even pet care services. and there s never been an easier way to get great advice. a place for mom is a free service that pairs you with a local advisor to help you sort through your options and find a perfect place. a place for mom. you know your family we know senior living. together we ll make the right choice. billions of problems. dry mouth? 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and the dems hillary problem, how their 2016 nominee may be complicating big plans for 2018, and the struggle to figure out just what to do about it. we start with the president on the offensive, both strategically and verbally, a blitz through the west and midwest continuing this weekend all the way into next
jonathan hunt standing by in malibu. first to kevin corke, covering the president s trip this weekend. kevin joins us live from paradise. kevin. julian, you re gillian, you re right. for the president it s an opportunity to see devastation of the wildfires that scorched a number of communities here and in southern california as well and a chance for him to comfort not only those who lost loved ones, but in some cases lost everything they had in their possession. also it s a chance for the president to thank the firefighters and first responders who have the heavy burden of assisting a hurting community. the president has been quite critical of the state management of the land which he says is a reason that california gets hammered by fires year after year after year. in fact, he addressed that controversy with our chris wallace of fox news sunday. you got some blow back because of one of your tweets talked about for rest management. i tell when trees fall they re very dry and they re like tinder, match sticks. you ve got to remove them. the argument is climate change, it s drier and hotter and contributes may be contributes, but the problem we have is management. there s a numberic element to this. since 2005, the federal government granted california by way of fema some $6 billion in wildfire management and wildfire mitigation. so what the president is essentially saying here is we cannot only make it safer for people on the ground if we simply do more to better manage the land where these fires tend to spring up. but it s obviously a conversation that will lead to many more chances at dialog while he s on the ground, including the governor and governor elect. more in the next hour, back to you. kevin, thanks for that. stay safe out there and we ll talk to you later in the show. all right, don t forget to watch chris wallace s exclusive interview with the president tomorrow. a lot about the wildfires and a whole lot more. check your local listings for time and channel and chris wallace will then sit down with howard kurtz on media buzz to talk about the interview and debrief as well. firefighters in southern california are finally getting some help from mother nature. cool are temperatures coupled with milder winds are working to contain the deadly woolsey fire that s now raged for over a week. jonathan hunt is in malibu with the latest. jonathan. gillian, good morning to you from malibu. the president is expected to head to southern california after he concludes events up north. we don t know his precise schedule when he gets here, but this is the kind much devastation he might be taking a look at. look down here, this line of homes in the point doom neighborhood of malibu, completely and utterly destroyed. and as we come back to the one we re standing on now, you can just see the kind of damage it s done. there s really nothing left of the house itself and then you look outside here, these people have a beautiful outdoor patio here and swinging back to our right, the pool presumably the kids used to enjoy the family who lived here. it s going to be a long time before anybody gets to enjoy that again. this is an area that has some millionaires, some celebrities, a lot of ordinary, hard working americans, too. and as one of the survivors of this fire, we talked to nia here who said these flames do not respect any kind of economic status. they make no difference. listen here. money can t buy you anything if you re here at point doom. there s nothing to buy. everybody, the retch and poor are standing next to each other picking through donations, the things they need, toilet paper, paper towels, water. and so it s the great leveller, a disaster like this. it really is a great level. i also want to talk to you, gillian, about the capricious nature of this. i showed you the line of homes going that way all completely destroyed. and we swing back this way, one next door not touched by the flames at all and it s sometimes the luck of the draw. do these burning hot embers land on your roof. with this one you see it s a different kind of roof, not a wood roof, doesn t catch fire so easily, a more modern build and makes a difference. these neighbors are going to come back here and they have their home to come back to. they re going to find everybody they knew along the street next to them has had their home completely destroyed. there s going to be a very, very long time for this neighborhood and so many others in california to get back to anything like former. gillian. thank you for that reporting, stay safe out there. coming up later in the show, california congressman john garamendi joins us to discuss president trump s federal disaster declaration. is it helping in the state? he ll have an answer. and america s elections aren t over. that s lauderhill as the counten ring and recounting continues. broward and palm beach counties being where the focus is right now. peter doocy live on the ground in water hill. how long is this going on for? it s not much longer here, leland, but we finally did get the net gains for each candidate. bill nelson during the hand recount manage today pick up about 250 votes on rick scott, that s far, far short of what the democrat s campaign has been hoping for because he trails by more than 12,000 votes. 2, 300 ballots not going to make a huge difference here. there s major confusion aside from the hard numbers, because election officials said they were done with the senate recount ap and move on to hand recounts during the agricultural race. one of the republican attorneys realized that 47 envelopes filled with ballots had little stickers that they were supposed fob a part of yesterday s recount. the senate race and that led to immediate objections that ballots were mixed together in a way they weren t supposed to be and concerns that some could be counted twice. ultimately the error was caught before being caught, but added a lot of time to the count process which has not been producing the ballots that bill nelson needs to catch rick scott and take over in first place. and it went to court because they were fighting to count those that came in after 7 p.m. deadline. that would require stretching the election law to accommodate the nelson recount and the judge said he would not do it and that his dance card is free for this weekend so if anybody has a challenge for the court or an appeal to call him at anytime. this has been an extended campaign caught in the courts so there might be some action up north in tallahassee today, but we ll have to wait and see, leland. what is the earliest we could finally get a final count on the senate and governor s race? it could come any time, but tuesday morning is when the secretary of state is expect today certify in the gubernatorial and the senate race. there s a possibility there could be an immediate challenge, but the math is very, very difficult for bill nelson. in a place they were hoping to find thousands of ballots in the row count and it didn t happen. there were an overwhelming majority of recount ballots that nobody voted. it s called an undervote. they left the senate slate blank. even if they voted for governor, bad news for bill nelson. and in an effort to try to take over rick desantis. thank you. thanks. let s bring in ted harvey. thanks for being with us and i want to start with the florida recount. what s so terrible about making sure that every last legitimate vote is counted in these races? there s nothing wrong with making sure that every legitimate legal count is counted. i think that everybody wants to make sure when we close this on tuesday that everybody is satisfied that every vote is counted and we have an honest selection. so, republicans are sort of, you know, the bad news, the drum beat of bad news continues in the state. once republicans win the elections conceivably, what is the plan to rectify this problem? isn t the bigger story here mismanagement? well, i think that this is a big state with a lot of voters. and you have some counties, like broward county, that has some issues that the state election commission needs to deal with. but i think that in the future, moving forward, especially going into the presidential election in 2020. we ve got to get these issues taken care of because we don t want to have another 2000 where they re literally looking at every state ballot to make sure who won. right, ted. isn t the governor ultimately responsible for managing that? i think the governor and a states election committee responsible for that. hopefully the new governor can satisfy those and everybody is sure in making sure every vote would be counted. critics here would say yes, there s rampant mismanagement in florida. republican leadership has done little to help remedy that problem. what s your explanation. well, he s not responsible for broward county s county electioner commission, doing other job or not. this has been an area since 2000. here we go again and they need to address that. and dealing with corruption and what we need to know not only in florida, but around the country. speaking of fraud and witch hunt, i want your opinion on the latest in the mueller probe. democrat are threatening a shutdown if they don t get mueller protection. it doesn t sound like a terrible idea to me after what the president said. what has the president stayed? he stayed for two years, he said he s not going to shut down yet, he called it a witch hunt and it s illegitimate. it is a with itch hunt. he s not going to shut it down. he s been saying for years he s not going to shut it down. the democrats are just trying to find something to make an issue out of with the president. ted, can you really blame them? in light of the rhetoric from the president. yes. in light of what whitaker the acting attorney general himself has said. i didn t say that the president has said he s shutting it down. but you can t deny the fact that the president attacks the witch hunt attacks the probe as a witch hunt on a pretty much weekly basis. if i was the democrat i d want to batton down the hatches. if i was falsely accused of a crime i would call it a witch hunt. that s what s going upon. there s plenty of proof that shows that the fbi knew there was nothing here. there was testimony before the committees saying that there was nothing here. comey said there was nothing here, yet, we still have the mueller investigation going forward. if i was trump, i would be very defensive as well and i would be calling it a witch hunt as well. that s not saying he s going to call it to an end. he s defending himself. and i would, too. well, ted harvey, thank you. we ll talk to you soon. have a great thanksgiving. you, too. in georgia democratic candidate stacy abrams has acknowledged defeat by brian kemp. as you know last night my opponent ended her campaign. the election is over and i m honored to be georgia s governor-elect. neil: the neil: there was a speech last night by abrams, it was scathing and highlighting what she calls voter suppression. i acknowledge that former secretary of state brian kemp will be certified as the vick for in the 2018 gubernatorial election, but to watch an electioned official who claims to represent the people of the state balancing hinge this on the right to vote is apulg. let s be clear, this is not a speech of concession. in utah, an updated vote now as incumbent mia love up by a razor thin margin, over ben mcadams, the current mayor of salt lake city. and utah is one of the remaining in the house and democrats are leading seats. who will the democrats pick as speaker. the president offering surprising support for nancy pelosi. i would help nancy pelosi if she needs some votes. she may need some votes. i will perform a wonderful service for her. i like it, can you believe it? i like nancy pelosi. she s tough, but she s smart, but she deserves to be speaker. depend on how you do the head count. as it stands now the california democrat may not have enough from her own party to regain the gavel in january. and rhode island congressman is running for the number four position in democratic leadership. joining us now, the president trolling you guys or you re taking him at his words? i think the president is right, nancy pelosi is smart and tough and she will be elected with democratic votes and you know, what s most important we ll get to work immediately, getting the work done of the american people. we ran on a very specific agenda. that s an answer to a question, but not the question i asked. do you have that i have no idea. democrats will elect their leadership arepublicans will elect a leadership. and hold on, you say that nancy pelosi doesn t need the president s support. there are at least 17 democrats on record saying they do know the support nancy pelosi for speaker. there were a couple of speakers who plan on a platform in swing districts, they do not support nancy pelosi for speaker. isn t that a problem? i have no question that we will have a team led by speaker pelosi and the diversity of our promise isn t it true you have a leader who is so polarizing in swing democrats that democrats had to run saying i won t vote for her. you re asking new members to she will get the votes in w caucus and it s a great 57 new members, we are having a discussion who is going to lead, it s healthy for bureaucracy and out of this will have a diverse team and be sure we hit the ground running and health care care and raising family income. congress, i understand. that s what matters. i understand the things you want to do. the fact of the matter remains, i ll hopefully get an answer. you re asking people and every person will vote their conscious. in order to get democratic votes to make nancy pelosi speaker. in order for if to work. by definition there will be those will have to vote that don t that s not true. there will be some people who campaigned, i suspect they re keeping that commitment. if they keep that commitment the way the math works. you don t end up there. in the end, new hampshi nanc will have enough votes to be speaker, we re going to elect our leadership let me ask in a different way. there are nearly 200 plus members in the house to are suspects. and those that are talented. fundraisers, dedicated leaders have know the knauss and the hill and why is the democrats hanging their hat, and she has lower ratings than the president does. we re relying on a strong and diverse caucus. great leadership, and we ve worked hard, the triple c chair did a great job and jim cliburn. we have lots of new people in leadership and i suspect when we have our leaders, we ll have people with the team with talent and diversity in the caucus. and how let me finish, nancy pelosi has been an effective speaker, she brought us the affordable care act and nobody s been millions of americans have health insurance. no one will argue that she s not. when you just won the super bowl, you don t fire the quarterback. or the person who raised the most money either. it s not just about money. it s talent and diversity. we ve got to go. we re up against a hard break and i don t want the computer to cut you off. thank you. coming up, migrants from across america are gathering at the border. william la jeunesse is on the ground. william. well, with shelters filling aup and tensions heating up. what s next for the migrant caravan? 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william la jeunesse is reporting from tijuana with the latest. not even the migrants know what happens them. and the president calling them out. i m not doing it for my country i m doing it for my people. this is the main shelter. there are 2000 people here and we re expecting twice that. where are they going, not only shelter, but food as well. and this is the food line for breakfast, right? this is going on for about an hour and a half people have been here. so they are massively uninformed, gillian, i have to tell you. unlike those who hire coyotes, these people don t know where they re going or how they ll get there even as buses continue arrive in tijuana. we spoke earlier to a 14-year-old guatemala boy and his father in mexicali about 60 miles away and i said 2600 here, 3200 expected today and tomorrow. now, the mayor says hey, it s one thing to pass through, but we don t want you to stay as the state believes six to 18 months. they re arriving with blind faith and hoping to claim asylum and get release and they re realizing that s no longer the case. we could go here and like it s like ten minutes just to walk and to get there, but like everyone s going to tijuana, so, we re not still not sure what we re going to do, but that s why we re trying to find information what s best to talk, what route to take, what not to take, the options. what about the options? number one, they could go home. people here say they re not going to do that. they could enter illegally and some say they will do that. they could stay here and work and get money for a coyote, a number of people tell me that s what they re going to do. they could claim asylum in mexico and many don t want to. and they wait in line and claim asylum in the united states. gillian, the wait is five weeks already to get an appointment. just put your name on the list to see an asylum officer and many are not willing to wait that long, do they have the money? does tijuana have the patience to let them wait that long? that s developing the next days and weeks. gillian: william, thanks for that. leland: north korea bragging about their latest weapons test. what does that mean for a possible summit with kim jong-un? and smoke and fire causing major problems across the state. when will mother nature offer relief? ad ad ad adam klotz is in the weather center. unfortunately as we head into the weekend, the winds are picking back up and northern california has red flag warnings. in the weeks ahead there may be rain ahead. i ll be talking about that after the break. years, right? 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maybe it contributes a little bit. the big problem we have is management. gillian: okay, so let s unpack that. the president admitting that perhaps climate change is not a hoax. well, climate change is very, very real. you don t have to look beyond california to learn that. it s drier, it s hotter, the fire season is not nine months of the year, it s 12 months of the year. all of southern california now, as it moves north into northern california, it s all the time. we get heavy rains, yes. they re short-lived. vegetation grows fast and then it dries out very, very fast because it s hotter and drier. you just heard about the hot, dry north winds. climate change is a very real part of that problem. no doubt about it, but also it s the management, the forests have not been properly managed for the last 70 years. we ve always been trying to suppress fires in the forest, which have led together with other forest practices, to an overgrowth of the forest, however, the fire in paradise is not in a national forest, it s on private lands. gillian: it sounds, sir, like you re conceding a point here. the president has a point. the mismanagement is playing a part in the fires we re seeing this week. i wouldn t say mismanagement, we have to go to the natural management of the forest, logging, as is natural fire. we need to thin the forest. fortunately, we were able after five years of effort to modify the way in which the forest service is funded. most was fighting fire and no money left over to manage the forest, we now have a new process in place. gillian: congress marn man, there s budgeting and appear to be firefighters, first responder, clearing brush from really dry areas that spark very easily. these kinds of areas where there s a lot of brush are responsible for spreading the fire as quickly as it has. he makes the argument this needs to be cleared out. why wasn t this cleared days ago when the fire first started or months ago? well, california is a huge state and we re now having almost 40 million people in the state. they re moving into the outlying areas, into what we call the urban wildland, interface areas. yes, it s required there be at least 100 feet of open space around all dwellings in california. when you get the kind of explosive fire that s devastated the town of paradise, some 26,000 people, you could have a hundred, you could have a thousand feet around, but that fire is jumping at least well, at least a mile to two ahead because the wind is blowing the embers. and so, yes, we do need to provide much better fire protection. our forests need to be managed, that is going to happen now that we have a different funding mechanism in place. we also need to recognize that climate change is part of the problem. so, how do we build resilient, safe communities, and that has to do with the structure of the houses. it has to do with another issue that interestingly enough, senator markey in massachusetts and a couple of us from california, and the midwest, introduce add introduced a bill called escape. it provides money for municipalities to develop escape routes, principal problem in the paradise issue was that there was two roads out of town, both of them narrow, both with heavy brush along the side of the road and many of the people, if not most of them died as they were trying to escape the fire. so, this piece of legislation may work i m sorry, we ve got a wrap. i wanted to ask you yes or no before we go. i d be we miss if i didn t ask about nancy pelosi, are you going to vote for her for next speaker of the house? absolutely, i voted for her before and will vote for her again. she s a strong leader, very powerful, very wise and knows the intricacies not only of the process, but the policy. she will become our speaker and lead us to solve many problems that we talked about, health care, infrastructure as well. gillian: thanks for joining us, we ll have to leave it there. leland. thank you. leland: all right. 9:40 on the west coast. the air force base as we await the president to arrive there live as it happens. 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yes. leland, it is issue number one because it was 2016 election that everyone was talking about building the wall, and the president got elected on that issue. we ve been waiting, leland. it s been several years and nothing has happened so it s still there, it s still a powerful issue among the republican base, and i m waiting for some action on it, leland. we re hoping we re a going to see some action soon. leland: that brings up a good point. because there s nothing the democrats like more than denying president trump money for his wall, and given that the democrats have the house after the first of the year, this would be the last chance to really try and force this issue to a head. is it worth republicans forcing a government shutdown potentially to get money for the wall? yes, because i think it tells republican voters out there that the congress is willing to follow through on their promises, because leland, this is what the president promised, what congress promised, this is why the republicans got a majority in the first place and leland, it could be why not lost and i ll turn the question around for you. is one of the reasons the republicans lost the majority in the house is because they didn t come up with money in the wall. bingo, that s what i was going to say. that and of course they promised to repeal obamacare and they doesn t do it. we got the tax cuts great, and the economy turned around. people wanted to see immigration dealt with. look at the caravan, we were talking about the caravan earlier on the show you ve got people at the border now. what an issue. right now is the time to do it because the caravan is at our border, it tells people, okay, we re going to take action. we re not going to punt this, not going to wait for the next congress, you know the democrats, they re not going to do anything on this issue. now is the time. leland: or they would extract a heck of a price for the president to get any kind of border wall funding. right. leland: that brings up an important point. if the president and the republican congress doesn t push through border wall funding now, you said doesn t seem like they ll be able to do it when the democrats have the house, is this potentially a make or break issue come reelection if he doesn t have funding by then? i wouldn t say make or break, but it s going to hurt him and the republicans. we need to deliver to republican voters who worked hard for the election much donald trump and the republican congress. now there s no reason not to do it, leland. the money is there, only $5 billion. leland: conceivably the reason not to force a government shutdown is because republicans who control the white house and both chambers are going to get blamed for it. but we always worry about a government shutdown, even when the government does shut down it doesn t cause the problems that people say it s going to cause. a bigger problem, leland is not funding a bigger problem is not funding the border wall. this is a promise. you ve got to fulfill your promise to the american people and republican base. it s only $5 billion. we re not asking for the whole thing, just it s a billion here, and there and people throw that around at dinner in washington. you we waste trillions you re a radio host. should kirstjen nielsen keep her job? 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let s bring in fox news senior strategic analyst jack keane and he s going to set the record straight for us. thanks for your time on a saturday. tell us if this latest weapons test increases the likelihood of some kind of military confrontation with north korea? north korea s number one issue for the size of the military they have and why they ve got ballistic missiles and weapons, it s the preservation of the regime. they ve felt grandfather before kim jong-un, father before him, that the ultimate objective was to change the regime out. it s likely the weapons capability as oppose today ballistic or nuclear capability and their conventional capability is significant and they certainly want the capability to overpower the south korea military. the larger issue is where are we on denuclearization? i think we re absolutely at a stalemate. gillian: do you think it would behoove president trump and the administration to help ease some of that existential angst to try and convince the north koreaens that he s not seeking regime change or step back that enissue. a great question. two things they want, some sense that their security will stay intact, that that the regime will stay there. and they want economic revitalization. if you believe that kim jong-un is sincere and he s willing to trade nuclear weapons to obtain that this would take some time before actually doing that. we would have to demonstrate to them is that some point the removal of all u.s. forces from south korea, all of our weapons, denuclearize the area and all of that. we re not doing it. gillian: that s never happening, right? this is why we had the impasse because we ve asked them. we want an inventory of all of your nuclear weapons and ballistic weapons on the site. haven t given it to us. we want a program for you to disarm and dismantle it. they have not given it to us. why they want, they ll give us that information, but then they want us to start systematically removing the sanctions. well, that s the same thing that two previous presidents were involved in. they gave us something and we gave them sanction removal and at the end of it, we came up with an empty bag, we had nothing. gillian: what about the big kahuna, the president went to singapore and went to tremendous effort to meet with him face-to-face, historic, whatever you want to call diplomatic move. shouldn t that pay some dividends in terms of building their trust? it has. and some other things that at that have happened. clearly, and the president touts these as successes. no nuclear testing, no ballistic missile testing, no missiles flying over japan. they ve we ve returned hostages. they ve returned some of the remains, an important number 55 to be sure to their families, but there s actually thousandses. they ve reconnected north korean and south korean families and there s a plan to reconnect rail lines. those are all positive things, the problem, gillian, it s nothing to do with denuclearization and for that they actually want sanction removal and we re not going to give it to them. i think what we have to do to convince the north koreans that it s in their interest to pursue this policy with president trump, is to actually get tougher. gillian: so we re waiting here, it s a live shot of air force one, landed at beale air foce base. we re awaiting president trump. we ve got general jack keane here, i want to talk with you while this is unfolding and ask you right now if you were advising the president, would you tell him to stick on this track with north korea, to really hammer home the diplomatic option? would you tell him to meet with kim jong-un again? yeah, it s very important to build trust. i know the asian culture very well. it takes time. i mean, we have people that go to these five to six-hour dinners that we have in the far east, and some people think it s a waste of time. it s not a waste of time. it s how you establish trust, the social aspect of it is as important as sitting at a conference table. so, that, yes, the diplomatic aspect of it, pompeo engaging, bolton engaging, the president engaging is very important. but at the same time, gillian, we have got to enforce the sanctions on north korea. what brought them to the table is the fact they re squeezed economically. we ve got problems, china has opened the apiture on the sanctions, they re not doing what they did when they said yes to the u.n. resolutions. russians have never abided by the u.n. resolutions and they ve always spied oil. the other countries, it s tough for the sanctions, why is that? there is no missiles flying over japan. and every two months a crisis was happening and the north korea leader was threatening cities in the united states. and they wanted two u.n. resolutions and ambassador nikki haley deserves credit for and the state department a very good job enforcing those resolutions which has been a problem. countries vote yes and don t do it, why? pau because there s a lot of money involved. gillian: what did you make of the news earlier this week there s secret nuclear testing facilities around the country. i think 13 of them. to your mine, is that like that s old hat and we knew that or is that no, it s not old hat, but i agree with what the president said and take him at face value is that it s something that our intelligence services have known and from my sources, is that most of those sites were actually short-range ballistic missile sites, that they would likely use on south korea, in terms of a conventional war, as opposed to a nuclear war. gillian: do you think they have been lying to you know, in the intelligence community, do you think the north koreans had been lying to us about the sites or do you think we knew? the north koreans, lie every day no different than the russians and chinese communists. they re all very good at that. the way you and i are looking at each other and communicating, they lie, and lie again. gillian: so the american public was maybe shocked and surprised, but you don t think the trump administration was? no, no, not whatsoever. we have a good feel for their nuclear weapon visit size and also some location. gillian: general, keane, i m sorry to interrupt you then. here is president trump. he is deplaning from air force one, he s at beale air foce base in california. he s there to survey fire damage from the raging wildfires. so far they ve killed 75 people, leland. leland: who he s with there, you can see andrew mccarthy now, the incoming house minority leader, currently the house majority leader there. the governor of california and governor-elect of california. here he s going to be visiting the town of paradise, california, which in the words of kevin corke, our white house correspondent, who is there, it is basically a moon scape, in his words, that is there is quite simply nothing left. it s been burned fully to the ground. that s what they call the camp fire there, which has now been contained by about 50% or so. that is the northern fire just north of sacramento, we saw on the tarmac there as air force one pulled up, the helicopters, both blackhawk helicopters and the osprey that will take the president and the press pool on a tour. so you understand what s happening here is the president has walked off the plane. there is a press pool travelling with him as well and the president comes over and makes remarks to the press as you talked earlier. doesn t look like the president is headed over there. right now he s headed to the president to survey the damage. countless homes to destroy in the fires. in some cases there was one way in and one way out. people just cannot take it. gillian: we talk to the firefighters and first responders on the ground in these type of situations where they face the aftermath of natural disasters, i don t know if you can actually call this an aftermath. but this is not part of the hardest task. going and finding people, finding the remains of families and figuring out who is what, figuring out which of the people missing might eventually enjoy being reunited with their families and which have passed away. it is a tough arduous grueling task ahead of them now. the next 24 hours will be painful for folks on every side. hopefully president trump being there will be a morale boost. leland: we know that he will meet with first responders. he is there with the governor of california and the governor elect. they ll head off for their stock to survey the damage. the other part of this, for first responders we are dealing with this, we heard that the wind will pick up through this weekend, rain is still a few days off. you have firefighters are exhausted. they have been working sort of, endless shifts in hot, brutal conditions. trying to contain these fires. then with the possibilities of more fires to come. something that the president will hear about and there s a saying that there are times the commander-in-chief becomes a comforter is comforter in chief. gillian: we will come back to this when he lands in the helicopter. meanwhile i will i think my guess for sticking with us. we will talk to you soon. kevin is live with more on the presidents trip. he is out of paradise. kevin, what can you tell us? reporter: a great job with your coverage folks. we will learn more with the president and share it with you and the viewers across the fox news channel. let me just say this. so what you will about the president but he is consistent with disasters. the full weight of the federal assistance is always at the ready. in fact, it is distributed as quickly as possible. in fact, as a ticket to twitter let me share a bit of what the president had to say before making his way here to the golden state. he said on twitter, thank you to governor sherrod brown. look forward to joining you and newsom in california. we are with you. obviously speaking on behalf of all of the american people. as he pointed out, the president on the ground in the golden state. clearly, he gave the reporters there at the white house, before making his way here to california, a bit of a preview and i want to just share part of what he had to say because i think you ll find it instructive as we look forward to what he hopes to do all he s here on the ground. cracks were going to california and making two stops. we are going to the areas that you know very well and it is a shame to see many more people missing than anyone thought possible. and i want to be with the firefighters and fema and first responders. i will be spending a lot of time, we will be coming back here probably landing at 4:00 in the morning or something like that. but we want to spend a lot of time. reporter: i want you to hang onto the last thing they heard him say there. we want to spend a lot of time. that is what s really behind this opportunity for the president. you ve seen the pictures, they been devastated. dozens dead, hundreds more if not as many as a thousand at last check. still missing because of the fires here. this is a recurring problem. i just want to share little factoid to give the people a home a sense of how often this has been a problem. not just the golden state but the american taxpayer. in fact 2005, california has received some $6 billion in fema grants to fight and obviously rebuild of the numerous wildfires. you may say how many? since they better hundred 98 federal disaster declarations. it is the most of any state in the country in almost all, 177 out of 198 federal declarations involved fires. one of the main arguments the trump administration is trying to make is, we collectively, federal and state governments can do a better job of mitigating these fires before they happen. and maybe that would not only reduce the number of disaster declarations, it would save lives. it is a conversation. the president expects to have that with the incoming governor, sherrod brown, the outgoing governor and a number of first responders and those on the ground doing the heavy lifting as the community tries to recover. gillian, leland? gillian: the president is receiving i think another leasing the toll in this fire, 75 dead over a thousand missing, it is a conversation well with having. thank you. leland: we keep watching marine one as it gets ready to take off. from beale air force base. you can see a number of the other helicopters that travel with the president, not taxiing off. also traveling with the president, a full and one of the osprey they will be there as the president greets everybody. they will get the pictures of him talking to not only first responders also talking to those who have lost homes who are still searching for relatives. in the present point out it s going to be a long he is going to spend a lot of time and norma california. that is where the campfire is, that is where paradise california is, and so many have said it has been leveled in a way that there is not much recognizable left. come this afternoon california time down near los angeles, the woolsey fire destroyed so much of southern california. malibu, that we all know. along the pacific ocean in some cases the fire went all the way down to the beach. jonathan hunt is there as some folks have been allowed to return to their homes or perhaps what was their homes. cracks good afternoon for you. this is a moonscape as well. kevin was talking about up in paradise, is extraordinary when you look around, just talk about the politics of the presidential visit. i can tell you that the people who are coming back to find that this is all that s left of their home, don t care about politics. they do not care if this is caused by climate change or whether this was caused by poor land management. all they care about is getting their lives back together. as you can see, quite plainly here, that is going to be a very tough time for hundreds of families here in malibu and the other areas north and west of la. that got hit by the woolsey fire. they come back and find this. absolutely nothing. nothing salvageable. whatsoever. if you look over to the horizon beyond us, those of the santa monica mountains over there. those are the mountains over which the flames came and they rushed down, so quickly, so fast. very few people here in malibu had any time to grab anything except the barest of essentials. they didn t have time to gather photo albums. all of those things, all of the memories people like to keep hold of, there just was not time. what are they when are they going to build to get back here? are people asking several times a day and the answer is not good. we are being told it could take some time. days, even weeks. simply because it is so dangerous and right now there is no power in any of these areas. listen here to a spokesman from socal edison. we have no estimates right now from full restoration. but we ll stay at this for the days forward and probably well into a few more weeks. reporter: these are all people who love their homes. and i know the people along the street, leland, because a decade ago this is the very street that i lived on. these are ordinary hard-working americans. these are not the malibu millionaires you hear about so often. they are nice homes but homes that people work for for years and years to build up. you can imagine the families sitting here in the outdoor grilling area. with the view of the mountains. reality is, they may never be able to do that again. and that is a story that is going to be similar for hundreds of families in this area. this is devastating. what so many people having to go through right now. leland? leland: make a very good point at what people care about at a time like this. jonathan hunt, malibu, california. with some of the stories the president when undoubtedly here as he had to southern california. thank you so much. gillian: election workers across florida examining thousands of contested ballots by hand. before tomorrow s deadline. peter doocy is live with more. reporter: the hand recount is with bill nelson and rick scott. there is a 274 vote now nelson s lawyers are inside trying to figure out why the count, the recount total is off by 2000. the ballots are in the building. the ballots are in the building. somebody must have put their stack in a tray where it did not belong and we did not pick that up. what we can do is recount, we can go back and recount that. the ballots are in this building that there will be nowhere else for them to be. but they are misfiled. reporter: there are two reasons that 2000 missing ballots are not going to make a difference. one, they would not put in also ahead even if you got all of them. and number two, the machine recount results were submitted two minutes late. and rejected. so the original election day count is the one that stands. of course that was before anyone realized there were thousands of ballots missing. the nelson campaign was also set back by a federal judge because they wanted to see, to bend the rules and counterbalance that were not received in the mail by 7 pm on election day, and the court decided not to make an exception. that impacted thousands of ballots which means thousands can possibly never end up in nelson s column. rick scott has the victory still has not been certified. now accusing nelson s lawyers of just trying to play this out in court so that they may be able to alter election law in florida ahead of the 2020 presidential contest. gillian? gillian: not reassuring at all. peter doocy, thank you. leland? leland: try to make sense of this if he can come we have florida top radio host, what is it about you and florida elections? it looks like the ridiculous 2000 ballots missing. some of us do have ptsd from 2000. it is not really a border problem it is very much a broward and palm beach county problem. there are very specific reasons why we are in this mess. in a single first reason, it is that we have a bunch of laws, new laws i came to place in 2001 and they simply have not been followed by the supervisors of elections. palm beach and broward counties. leland: it brings up an important point. the supervisor of elections report to the governor. if rick scott if brenda sipes is talk about this he could have done something about this does he have any responsibility? that is correct. there has been a big discussion about that. for years now, brenda has been running some of the guidelines in the state for, going back to election cycles in 2012. even political elections and he could have done something about appeared he chose not to so he is getting bitten by his own situation here. leland: do think that is fair criticism? i do think it is fair criticism. there are plenty republicans willing to make it. ultimately, rick scott will come out of the recount just fine. but there is a lesson to be learned here. i think the single first lesson is that we have laws and if we do not abide by them then we have consequences. leland: peter doocy reported that there is an insurmountable lead by rick scott over senator nelson. this was chuck schumer on wednesday. talking about bill nelson, take a listen. bill nelson is strong as can be. he believes, i believe. he is won a majority of votes for as long as it counted, he will continue being senator from florida. leland: does that make any sense to you? that is an altered sense of reality. the first thing is, we take a look at actual recount anyway, the average statewide recount since 2000, the number of votes could change our 282. the muslim history of the united states is 1247. leland: your dad and as anyone gets in florida. what is rick nelson and andrew gillum what is the endgame? many agree neither will run the race. they are behind by too many as you point out. what do they want out of this? ultimately, you are seeing in the case of bill nelson, someone who has spent his entire life in politics. and he is retired at the end of this election. this is it. he has got nothing to lose. the case of andrew gillum, that is a situation where he went ahead on election night and gave it up before the florida democratic party said hang on, we know how to do some things and so just hang tight. leland: we know how to do things i am not kidding either. leland: back to bill nelson. there s a graceful way and a non-graceful way to leave. recount after recount and lawsuit after lawsuit. no one classifies as graceful. does it matter anymore? are those people in washington saying, even if you press the issue longer, here s why and here s what s in it for you. i guess. i certainly do know bill nelson quite well. ultimately what they saw was an over vote and and under vote in the tens of thousands in broward and particular. and they saw that as a window of opportunity. obviously, it was one that was not based in reality and they have doubled down on this so many times that it s almost like they re going to take this to me in a matter where it leads. they most important thing is the accountability at the end of this. leland: that will be of the new governor in florida. governor elect ron desantis. we ll see if it gets certified. peter doocy said it could happen as soon as tuesday. i appreciate it, thanks. thanks, leland, have a happy thanks giving. gillian: coming up the president says he will answer written questions from special counsel robert mueller himself. any plans to send them to him soon. this is democrat and even some republicans in congress are making sure it does not get sabotaged. plus we talk to the outgoing democratic governor. rumors in the 2020 presidential ring. also coming up, the navy welcoming a brand-new member today. the best simple salad ever? 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in reality is setting in. they arrived here with certain blind faith. that generations before them had simply entered the us, asked for asylum and got released. then to live with family for the president watching some of this is disturbed. he says why are caravan wagons carrying their honduran flag, a country they disowned and left? if that such fear and problems and they hate their country, why do we see all of the flags being waived? for guatemala, honduras, el salvador. we are seeing flags all over the place. why are they waving flags? it has nothing to do with asylum. this has to do with getting into our country illegally. i caught up with one of those guys who carried the honduran flag. who got called up by the president. he said listen, and carrying the flag not to represent the government of honduras that he believes are corrupt gang of thieves but for the people. and his family where he is born and is representing. the big take away i have after covering this for five weeks i think, people do not have a lot of information. they really do not know what to do. he doesn t they did not know there was a change of the law. catch and release was over. and once said i m going to the border and tell them about and i said you re not even going to get into see that. the weight is five weeks long if he even arrived today. so there is a lot of information these people simply do not know. that s too bad but they know they will be here a long time. leland: as he pointed out, at the beginning of this you have excellent work.we will be in tijuana this fall and winter. i appreciated my friend. gillian: for my insight in the information at the border unfolding now, i want to bring a texas republican congressman, thank you for joining us on a saturday. you saw the live pictures out of tijuana just now along with all of us. those people do not look like national security threat to me. those people look like people who have traveled a long way, they are tired, probably hungry and they are scared. first off, thank you for having me on this afternoon. i appreciate it. i will tell you after several years of traveling to at least the texas border and going into the shelters that we provide for unaccompanied minors coming to the country, i have traveled to central america myself. i get it that there are people that leave for economic reasons but the statement that was made in the medium to this, the rhetoric that is used to nice is congress, the rhetoric in the previous initiation that came out of the white house was one that implied that if you could get here, you would get a slip, a paper that told you to come in the country. and stay. and that is really what is, think of what they encountered on their truck up here. in fact it is a commodity from human traffickers in the countries to sell people a ticket or a charge that they can come to united states and it is expensive. it is an expensive, dangerous journey for them. i think it is important to get the word back that it is no longer business as was usual. you are going to have to comply with our asylum laws and the fact of the matter is, it is not a free ticket in. gillian: complying with asylum laws is one thing. you know that is a priority for the administration. but critics of the present will say, why create an environment that is inhospitable to refugees and asylum seekers? this is a strong point for america. it has always been, why do we have to change that? i do not think that is the choice at all. i actually, the difficulty will be on the southern side of the united states border in mexico. look, the united states of america takes in more people legally, every year than every other country on the face of the earth combined. and it has been that way for several years. i do have the figures for 2017. the first year of the full year of the trump administration. but i believe it will be even a little higher. it s not that we are not welcoming the immigrants. but the other side of this is, in 2012, when president obama unilaterally said, i m going to change my executive order, the immigration laws of this country, the word went back that hey, if you cannot get up there and get one of these notice to appear, again called a permiso, they are nothing to worry about. when unaccompanied minors come to the country they become the charge of the department of health and human services. gillian: if the administration is planning to welcome people at lawful point of entry, why is the president sending thousands of troops to the southern border? why are they spread out along all entry points of the border for hundreds of miles? because of the onslaught of people that were just being unloaded on this country and unloaded on our social welfare systems. children will have to be placed in schools. children s whose vaccination status is not known. and this is been going on for several years. gillian: you re comfortable with the idea that as critics of the president say his now militarized the southern border. this is fine to you? of course is not the first time in u.s. history tappen. here is what i think is more important.when governments of those countries, honduras, el salvador, guatemala, governments of those countries, they have the obligation to take care of their people. and we are spending a ton of united six tax dollars on taking care of their children who arrive in this country. i think we should deduct that figure from foreign aid that goes back to those countries. make it about their money and that will make it important to those leaders. they need to be doing a better job not encouraging these caravans to leave. gillian: congressman, thank you for joining us and if using this conversation with some reasonable levelheaded talk. we appreciate it. we will have you back soon. thank you. leland: all right, president trump in california. getting off air force one. he is on board marine one. we will check in when he lands. and with midterms over the 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over off. it is a complete list 142 items. that is a lot of items. it didn t take very long. they were my answers. i don t need lawyers to that. reporter: the president s is answer the questions easily but also talked about his concerns over a perjury trap. the investigation to russian meddling in the 2016 election has resulted in indictments of 30 people and three russian entities for former trump campaign aides pled guilty. the president has criticized robert mueller. this week he called the team a disgrace to the nation and said he refused to look at bad acts and farms on the other side. that is not pleasing a lot of democrats. for what seemed like the millionth time, the present angrily, widely and baselessly, ranted about the special councils investigation. it doesn t matter to him that his claims have no basis. has democrats demand once again, that in our negotiations on the omnibus bill, that the gop leadership include, join us including language that would say the special counsel to protect any special counsel. reporter: democrats say whitaker is problematic because he has publicly criticized special counsel. there is also a legality of the appointments for some congressional republicans like john cornyn are urging the white house to quickly submit an attorney general nominee to try and eliminate some of the concerns. gillian: thank you for that reporting. you is cut through and bring us what matters. leland: a full recount in florida. underway. hand recount that is. the deadline tomorrow. and minority leader, nancy pelosi, knows her bid for house speaker this week. there was a big question about how much support she can garner from her colleagues and will the president help her out? have overwhelming support in my caucus. to speaker of the house. i ve always been amazed by what s next. and still going for my best, even though i live with a higher risk of stroke due to afib not caused by a heart valve problem. so if there s a better treatment than 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couple of house races. but 20/20 is already starting. among the democrats who have ahead to iowa and new hampshire are going colorado governor john hickenlooper. i know it is not official but did the midterm results make it more or less likely you will throw your hat in the ring? [laughter] i do not think they had that big an impact although it was interesting to see how many of the successful democratic candidates across the country really managed to bring in different backgrounds. they were not the traditional politicians that camp in the military, business, all walks of life. leland: as i was telling gillian turner at the break you and i knew each other. a retired geologist turn owner. look at the list of democratic candidates we have two camps, if you appear to have the progressives and shall we say, you have moderates or more practical among the democratic presidential hopefuls. in your fairly squarely group of that who is willing to work pretty much across party lines, doesn t make it harder for you and a potential primary? i don t think so. i mean, there certainly are schools of thought that say that creates a barrier. unless you are you know, right on the edge of every political debate you will not get traction in a national primary. i m not sure that s true. i think there might be a, almost like a new solid majority people that really do want to get things done was election is over. we have to roll up our sleeves and what are the places where you can find comments of interest, common ground and compromise. and move our cities, our state and country forward. presidential candidates are always asked to answer for the most polarizing among them in their party. nancy pelosi. if she become speaker, does make it hard for democrats like yourself, potentially running for president, they ll have to answer someone who is unfavorable or worse than the president. well, i think you ll get speaker pelosi and she did go out and she recruited personally, a number of candidates that were successful in the midterms. leland: but governor, 11th candidates that were most successful in the midterms, flipping swing districts that you would need if you re ready for president. by saying i m not voting for nancy pelosi. [laughter] there was some of that but i do think she is extreme as people say she is. certainly, at some point there will have to be a transition predinner she s working through. what is that transition of power? what does that look like in the house? leland: you know the president is fond of coming up with nicknames for some of his opponents. if we look back at the list of the 20 or so democrats there are a few that already have nicknames. have you thought or perhaps worried about what possibly yours might be? [laughter] you know, i have a childhood where experienced many of those nicknames already. i mean, [bleep] scooper, chicken cooper, leland: something you haven t heard or is more insulting? exactly, more insulting. leland: have about 60 seconds left. i will give you a little bit of an easy one on this. what is missing from the conversation right now that you will add? the iowa caucus is february 3, 2020. the debates between the potential democrats could start as early as mid spring. what is missing from the conversation you will bring? i think there s got to be a deeper dive into jobs and how we do the training for the pre-does not very popular. leland: how do you run on a jobs platform when were experiencing the lowest unemployment we had in the country in decades? your state of colorado is exploding! right, we ve been number one in the country for the last two years according to the news. but that is not the point we know we ll have a recession. anyone that doesn t believe that is kidding themselves. so i think we have to look at one of the, what are long-term investments to make sure that they continue and how to get people to participate in this expanding economy? how do we make sure that we are expanding the middle class as well? leland: probably some of the lessons were the incoming class of governors will be talking to a little while in colorado. good to see you as always. nice to see you. thank you for having me on. gillian: still ahead, the latest worship getting ready to hit the high seas. a look at this right after the break. that s why we designed capital one cafes. you can get savings and checking accounts with no fees or minimums. and one of america s best savings rates. to top it off, you can open one from anywhere in 5 minutes. this isn t a typical bank. this is banking reimagined. what s in your wallet? vof hundreds of families, he se hmost proud of the one the heads he s kept over his own. brand vo: get paid twice as fast with quickbooks smart invoicing. quickbooks. backing you. .to give you the protein you need with less of the sugar you don t. 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to be honest is to have nancy pelosi at the speaker. the state blew that up right now. frankly from the perspective she just won the super bowl. it creates chaos and a thing for the democrats perspective a much smoother outcome. gillian: kevin would you think? i think i can agree with alex. earlier they said you don t dump the star quarterback after winning the super bowl. she presided over the biggest democratic three as alex a big family over 60 percent of the democratic caucus is either woman, lgbt people or people of color. she will be over the most democratic caucus of the country. she will get the votes on the fourth end of the day. gillian: what about room for the next generation for new energy? is a great point. we had a congressman, a latino member from mexico who ran our dccc. you have someone that was on earlier in openly gay member from rhode island that had support of our policy committees. in the congress, said to take over, half of our chairman are people of color. so we have the most diverse caucus in history of the country. i think this speaker pelosi will find ways to elevate younger members as we are seeing it already play out. since last tuesday. only a few seconds left. alex, what you say about this i mean on your side, how are you preparing to go back into the new session, 116 congress? is just the reality that a lot of the members frankly have not faced and they will have to get used to. fortunately, we did have a lot of leadership on the republican side in a think leader mccarthy and the team are ready to roll. gillian: ready to roll but are they feeling a little down in the dumps? about the election? you never like to lose elections and even westerlies majorities. but i think they are prepared to go ahead and try to advance their agenda. alex vogel, kevin walling, thank you for your time. we will check back in with you in a few weeks. thank you. thanks for having us. leland: 1:56 pm on the east coast, 10:56 am in california. this is marine one, they have touched off a the president s tour of much of the damage from the wildfires. continuing coverage on fox news from new york. each of these food boxes represents a gift of life for people here in israel who are in desperate need. these are very difficult times for israel and the jewish people as the government spends more and more of it s resources for battling terrorism. the situation has become a crisis. every week the lines get longer and longer. there are more people who come than they expect because the numbers keep growing. the bible teaches, blessed is he whose help is the god of jacob. he upholds the cause of the oppressed and gives food to the hungry. this $25 food box will provide one desperately need family here in israel with food, with hope and with a note inside each of these saying that it is from christians and jews in america who seek to bless them. with your phone call right now a food box will go out to one desperate family in israel. inside the food box is a special note that will bless them and will let them know that america strongs in solidarity with israel in their struggle for survival. many of these people are ill, they re sick, they re alone. they don t have the money to afford things that many of us; most of us take for granted. i ask you to please help. go to your phone and tell us that you stand with israel at her time of need. israel and it s people need your help now. you can make a life changing difference by calling and saying that you will give a $25 food box to help a family in need in israel. thank you and god bless you for your support. i tell everyonif you want to get ancestrydna tethe most details about your family history. my pie chart showed that i m from all over europe, but then it got super specific. i learned my people came from a small region in poland, and even a little bit of the history about why they might have migrated during that time. those migration patterns are more than just lines on a map, they re really your family s story. this holiday, give the gift that s connected millions to a deeper family story. order your kit at ancestry.com we start with the fox news alert. the president going to bear witness to the devastation in california s wildfires. they are still raging in both ends of the state. you can see in the live pictures, the president just landed in northern california. at the municipal airport. the present meeting with firefighters and state officials. the death toll software has risen to at least 71 people and at least 1100 people remain unaccounted for. hello everyone and welcome to america s news headquarters . i am eric shawn. class i am arthel neville. as we look at this
michael flynn, jared kushner and others improper access to top secrets. even john kelly when he was chief of staff acknowledged there were problems with the security process. now house democrats want to air that dirty laundry, they want the documents and are prepared to issue a subpoena to get them. and good day, everyone, i m andrea mitchell in washington. day 33 of the government shutdown. today both houses are gearing up for votes tomorrow that will likely fail but possibly clear the way for a short term bill to end the shutdown and launch real negotiations for a compromise that president trump would sign. president trump, though, standing firm so far, confident republicans will not waver, even as federal workers brace for two more weeks without pay. among the hardest hit, thousands of government contractors including security officers and cleaning staff who will never get their back pay to recover from the shutdown crisis. joining me now, nbc white house correspondent kristen welker, nbc capitol hill correspondent kasie hunt, nbc political analyst peter baker, and nbc s ali vitali, after speaking with struggling federal contractors. kristen walker, the president is proceeding as though he has a firm coalition in the senate, so far he has. but there s a lot of talk around the edges that after these test votes tomorrow there might be talk of a real compromise. well, that s right. i ve been talking to white house officials throughout the morning basically asking them what is going to happen if these two test votes do in fact fail, which is what is expected. one top official tells me, look, ask nancy pelosi. they re really putting the onus, at least at this point, on democrats to come to the table with a potential compromise, which i know kasie will delve more deeply into. the white house says we re very clear on what we want, funding for the border wall specifically. and so far these proposals don t use that language. andrea, having said that, the white house is not committing to vetoing specific legislation. that s yet another sign that they are looking for trying to find a way out of this. president trump, for his part, tweeting earlier today a new slogan, tweeting build a wall and crime will fall. this is the new theme for two years until the wall is finished under construction now of the republican party, use it and pray. so he is essentially trying to turn up the heat on democrats with that rhetorical flourish. the question is, andrea, how and when will this all come to an end. there s still not a clear end in sight. of course the political pressure is mounting on all sides, particularly on the parking lre with polls showing that more people are holding him responsible for this government shutdown which is impacting hundreds of thousands of workers. for his part, the president has a number of meetings today, one on health care, then a little bit later he ll be meeting with conservative leaders, not meeting with democrats, though, andrea. so it doesn t seem as though an end to this is imminent, at least right now. kasie hunt, there s one report in politico that there is new pressure on nancy pelosi to come up with something, certainly the pressure coming from some sort of middle of the road democrats, especially those who represent large numbers of federal workers. we heard from benny thompson, we heard from jim cliburn, there might be some kind of counteroffer. what are you hearing? there has been an increase in the pain level, it seems, andrea. frankly the mood up here seems to have shifted a little bit in the last couple of days, where it s pretty clear that there is now a more advanced scramble on to try to get out of this. what felt like a stalemate that was immovable now seems to be cracking. now, that doesn t mean that we have a clear way out of this. what we do know, leanne caldwell and hai have been reporting thi this morning, the democrats have been preparing a counteroffer to the president. what they say, our sources tell us, there wouldn t be any money for the wall in there but there would be border security money that would meet or exceed the president s $5.7 billion demand. so this could be a pretty classic move by the house speaker nancy pelosi, who is just walking right by here. madam speaker, your counterproposal she obviously, like paul ryan who has walked by this camera many time when we ve been on the air, andrea, not saying anything about this counterproposal. but that would be a classic move from nancy pelosi, helping to inoculate the charge that democrats don t care about border security by potentially going beyond what the president has said he wants to do in terms of asking for this money, while at the same time holding fast on what they have described as a moral problem, they do the not to give the president his wall. i spoke briefly with the majority leader steny hoyer, i asked him is there any world in which the house would take up the senate s proposal coming to the floor of the senate on thursday, knowing that s incredibly unlikely that would ever pass. he actually left the door more open than i expected that he might, which i took as another sign that it s very clear the pressure is racheting up here on capitol hill, which hopefully in the long run is ultimately going to be good news for those federal workers who have had such a tough time. and some of those federal workers in fact, kasie, are not far from you in the hart office building, gathering now in the atrium of that building, in a protest. we ve seen other protests in that room. so far that area in the hart building looks like a very calm, peaceful protest with some signs. but those are federal workers or those representing them. peter baker, you wrote today about the white house inactivity has the president held hostage. this is partly not doing public events during the shutdown, all agencies are told not to, and there s been certainly a very limited white house schedule, but it s also that he is politically held hostage by this continuing showdown. yes, it s rather remarkable. we re one month already into the new year and the only issue basically that has been on the president s plate is this single dispute over the border wall. that doesn t mean he hasn t been doing some other things. he did meet with the north korean envoy the other day and is trying to work out a summit meeting next month with the north korean leader kim jong-un. his negotiators are trying to work on brokering a trade deal with china. but by and large you are seeing a president focused seemingly on one issue. it s become what his administration officials call a one-issue without at this point. and peter, his approval ratings, at least in the new cbs poll, is down a bit. republicans are taking a hit here and the economy is also becoming a larger issue, the imf leader christine lagarde in davos saying there are global problems stemming not just from the trade policies but also from the government shutdown, and a slowdown in china. yeah, exactly. there s talk out of the white house that growth in the first quarter could be down to zero percent, which of course would be a dig disappoint for the president. and you re right, his poll numbers have sunk a little bit since this began. the white house is gambling all of that will be forgotten if they come out of this with a win, that what matters in the long run is he is seen as fulfilling his campaign promises, none of which is more memorable or higher profile than the wall. if he gets that, then a year from now, two years from now, when we re heading to the polls for his reelection, nobody will care as much about how long the shutdown lasted. their view is the economy should bounce back once the government starts again. but it s a big gamble. in the normal cycle of economic recoveries, they re due for a recession in the next year or two and it could be right around election time that the economy could really be slowing down normally, even without this as an actual drag on the economy, an artificial or self-imposed drag on the economy. ali vitali in lower manhattan, where there are federal contractors who will not get congressional pay recovery, let s say, at the end of the shutdown. yeah, andrea, and that s a really important point i want to make. furloughed workers will get back pay, but as it stands right now, federal contractors who are not working and not getting paychecks will basically have lost this month and however long this shutdown goes on. one worker who works behind me in a branch of the smithsonian museum, her 19-year-old daughter is a freshman in college, she s not going to go to college this semester because she s going to take time off to get a part-time job to help her mom pay bills. we talked to her about the impact on her life. the little amount of savings goes to bills. after the savings, we re going to zilch. so it s like, i feel like i m, you know, back in, you know, ten years ago, when i was struggling, my kids were younger, and, you know, having to live check to check, you know. and now it s come to reality, the reality that i m going to have to, you know, live by unemployment checks. you pulled yourself up by your bootstraps once. once. i can do it again. i ve struggled. i know what it is. but do i want to do it again? no. i worked too hard to get to where i m at. i feel like i m going backwards instead of moving forward and succeeding and doing well for my family. so andrea, obviously a really deep personal impact. but then i also want to bring you out to the larger impact. federal contractors are losing, according to an estimate from bloomberg, about $200 million a day. that s over $6 billion at this point. think about what trump is asking for for his wall, $5.6 billion. contractors have lost as much or more than trump even wants to build this wall in the first place, andrea. a lot of these contractors are localwly paid, cooks, clean people, that keep these buildings going and feed and support our federal employees and they do not get their back pay. just think of this woman who you spoke with, and how she feels after having worked so hard, to have her college student having to take a semester off. that s heartbreaking in a profound way. kristen welker and kasie hunt, you re at the fulcrum of this on your two beats. how does that impress the people at the heart of this stand justify? kristen, the president wants to give his state of the union, they say he will, he ll give a speech, if it has to be in the east room. nancy pelosi has not said you cannot come, she has just said it would not be appropriate if the shutdown continues. is there going to be a big speech, if this shutdown is still in play? andrea, it seems like it s full steam ahead to have a state of the union address next tuesday. the question is will it in fact take place at the capitol. the white house signaling at this point in time they have no reason to think it won t. at the same time we know there are contingency plans, that officials here, for example, are preparing different passages in case president trump has to deliver that speech outside of washington, d.c. and andrea, to that first important point that you make, how are those real life stories impacting the president, how are they impacting the white house? i have put that question to the president himself, to officials here. and the response is that they go back to what they describe as the pain that is caused by a lack of border security. they go back to angel parents who have lost loved ones, to those who they say have come here and are undocumented. so that is their response to all of these stories that we are seeing unfold, frankly all across the country, people really struggling to make ends meet, really suffering amidst this government shutdown. again, they continue to go back to that key campaign promise by the president that border security essentially trumps all, andrea. and of course, kasie hunt, the democrats are saying that they believe in border security, they re putting up billions for border security. tim kaine, sherrod brown, a couple of others are saying, let s have the experts come to us and tell us exactly in a real negotiation, let s have real testimony about what they need, let s mark up a bill on the senate side and let s hear from them as to what would really what a wall would do versus what a wall would not do. that s really the heart of this, andrea, because the reality is that democrats have in the past voted for the equivalent of a wall, they voted for physical barriers along the border. but of course they ve done it in the context of exchanges for other areas of policy that they felt were going to improve overall the immigration system. that s typically how compromise has worked in the capitol. as you know, this issue has just been incredibly fraught now for years, well before the president if anything capitalized on this reality in his campaign, it s not as though he created this as a wedge issue. i do think there are democrats who would be willing to vote for something like that. the problem is we re heading into a presidential year, democrats have just taken back the house. the pressure among democrats is to oppose the president. and what embodies this president more than this idea of a wall on the southern border? and that s why you have heard the language that has come from nancy pelosi, for example, calling this immoral, right? these constructs, they re not about, okay, do we put a fence over there and a barbed wire over there. no, is it right, is it wrong, does it make a statement about who we are as a country. as long as this is the framework of the negotiation, i think we re going to go nowhere, and that s why it s going to be so hard to break out of it. the sense has been that the white house simply wasn t going to give in at all, so obviously there was no incentive on the flip side for democrats to do that. but to answer your earlier question, andrea, i do think that the predicaments of these people, they do matter, and the pictures are getting harder and harder, the stories are getting more and more difficult. and, you know, it should force our elected leaders to do something, andrea. and peter, finally, there s the issue that democrats claim if they let the president have his way on wall funding now, he will believe that he can shut down the government over any issue that is important to him. well, that s right. we re going to have a debt ceiling deadline come up in the spring. we ll have another fiscal year end at the end of september. you see both sides in effect have drawn such a strong line in the sand, each side believes if they give up they have set a terrible precedent for the next two years, and the president feels the same way. nobody wants to be the first to cave because they feel like it will set a bad pattern for the next two years. but that leaves both sides then stuck in this impasse. peter baker, ali havevitali, kristen welker, kasie hunt, thank you all. coming up, they re going to jared. house democrats launching an investigation into the security clearance process with a spotlight on the president s son-in-law, jared kushner. you re watching andrea mitchell reports only on msnbc. nly on mc [friend] i ve never seen that before. i have. i have. lookin better than a body has a right to and shakin me up so applebee s all you can eat is back. now with shrimp. now that s eatin good in the neighborhood. audible members know listening has the power to change us, make us better people. with audible you get more. two audible originals: exclusive titles you can t find anywhere else. plus a credit good for any audiobook and exclusive fitness and wellness programs. all for just $14.95 a month, and always ad free. the most inspiring minds, the most compelling stories, the best place to listen. download audible and start your free trial today. you mighyour 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have breaking news from capitol hill. the democratic chair of the house oversight committee, elijah cummings, is launching a wide ranging investigation into the white house security promises for what cummings calls grave breaches of national security at the highest levels of the trump administration. last february nbc news found over 130 white house officials and trump appointees have been operating without full security clearances at the time, including the president s son-in-law and senior adviser jared kushner. despite having access to highly classified information. joining me now is msnbc political analyst phillip rucker, washington post white house bureau chief, and ken dilanian, nbc news intelligence and national security reporter. ken, let s talk about this investigation. this is one of the first evidences of the change, the democrats are in charge and they re going to start these investigations. this one goes to the heart of the security clearance process. it does. and it s a very shrewd move by cummings. it was something the republicans were interested in as well, they launched an investigation when they were involved and really got nowhere. and john kelly, when he was chief of staff, acknowledged there were problems with the security clearance process. there were real questions about jared kushner. recall that it was reported that his security clearance was downgraded because he didn t fill out his financial disclosures. then it was reported he had a complete security clearance. later the washington post said yes, but it wasn t top secret material. kushner is a subject of the mueller inquiry and people are asking, how can he have a full security clearance when he s the subject of a special counsel investigation? so this is one aspect of going to the heart of it. there s another letter that has just come out from cummings, writing about the nra and potential issues between john bolton before he joined the administration, nra, nra fundraising, russia, maria butina. this gets into a whole other it sure does. and a potential link with the russia investigation. john bolton was an nra official, he was on a committee. he appeared in a video roundtable with maria butina, this russian national who has been charged as acting as unregistered foreign agent for russia. there are real questions about her role at the nra. she was an nra member. people want to know how john bolton got a security clearance when he had contact with this russian national. democrats want to know how these decisions were made. phil rucker, you can see a letter from donald trump to nancy pelosi saying he looks forward to seeing her at the regular venue at the state of the union next week, thank you for your letter, et cetera, regarding the shutdown sent to me not long after the shutdown began inviting me to address the nation. as you know, i had already accepted your kind invitation, this after there was a comment from the pelosi team yesterday that he had not sent a written acceptance, but said it verbally. however i then received another letter from you dated january 16th wherein you expressed concerns about security. i was contacted by the department of homeland security and u.s. secret service to explain that there would be absolutely no problem with regard to security with respect to the event. he then goes on to say, accordingly there are no security concerns therefore i will be honoring your invitation and fulfilling my constitutional dispute to deliver important information to the people and congress of the united states of america regarding the state of the union. he looks forward to seeing her january 29th in the chamber of the house of representatives. it would be so very sad for our country if the state of the union were not delivered on time, on schedule, and very importantly, on location, exclamation point. phil, it does seem as though he wrote this himself. from the punctuation, if nothing else. yes, it s a bold move by president trump. he s effectively calling pelosi s bluff and saying, look, i am able to give this speech, there are no security concerns according to the people that provide security to me at my events, and he wants to deliver the speech in the house chamber. and it now falls to pelosi, if she wants to stop this, i believe she has the authority to do so simply because she controls the activity on the floor of the house of representatives as the speaker. but i don t actually know the nitty-gritty of the rules about how this works, and it certainly sort of ups the ante there from last week, what we all reported on as the disinvitation from pelosi to trump. and this is kristen welker rejoins us from the who us. countri white house. kristen, they had fallback positions but now they re really calling nancy pelosi s bluff, now she would have to affirmatively say don t come. and she controls the floor, she controls the venue, that s under her purview. that s absolutely right. the president is essentially saying, look, you invited me to speak and we are going to honor that initial invitation that you sent out. not altogether a surprise, andrea, because remember, he had tweeted several days ago a contract is a contract. and yesterday, all signs pointed to the fact that he was in fact determined to deliver the state of the union address next tuesday at the capitol as was originally planned. so he is calling house speaker nancy pelosi s bluff to some exte extent. and the house says they ve checked with the relevant people and there are no security concerns. so we await nancy pelosi s response. this is a president who is a former reality tv star. he understands the power of optics. when it comes to optics for the white house, for a president of the united states, it doesn t get much bigger than the state of the union address. this is a chance every year, of course, for the president to address not only a joint session of congress but of course the american people. now, will the shutdown be finished by the time he addresses the american public? that s the big question, because the optics are going to be incredible tricky if this shutdown is still in place and the president speaks to the american people next tuesday, andrea. and phil, you know, the stakes here are escalated by the fact that there were just the beginnings of some sort of compromise, there was pressure on nancy pelosi and the democratic leadership to come up with a way around this counteroffer. they were beginning to outline that today. there was the possibility that maybe they would have these two votes tomorrow, both votes would fail, then they would go to the negotiations for the first time to really talk about what could be a wall without calling it a wall and how they could both sides claim victory, a short term continuing resolution, and then a real negotiation. but this seems to be escalating the pressure, this letter from the president to nancy pelosi, just when they might have been starting to edge toward negotiations. yeah, and the personal dynamic here between nancy pelosi and donald trump, the two leaders of the two parties and of the two, you know, respected bodies of government, is important here. they re not talking right now. they re not in what you would call good negotiations at the moment. there s just been bad blood over the last week beginning with nancy pelosi s letter effectively saying, let s table the state of the union until after the government reopens. and then remember, trump effectively halted pelosi s secret trip to afghanistan. she was going to be making a trip to the war zone as well as to brussels this past weekend and the president, you know, did not allow her to use military aircraft for that trip. and so there is a tremendous amount of bad blood between the leaders even as others are trying to, you know, inch towards some sort of a compromise. one is not necessarily in the offing right now. kristen walker, there s been an issue, even before she was speaker, when she was democratic leader, of resentment of the way donald trump was mansplaining, if you want to dig into that for a moment. well, and we saw that on full display during that remarkable oval office meeting, the last time we really saw all of these leaders gathered together, when president trump said to the newly-installed house speaker, i know you have a problem speaking out right now because that vote, that final vote hasn t been taken and her speakership hadn t been made official. it was in that moment that we really saw her push back very firmly against exactly what you are describing. and she talked about the fact that she was poised to take control of the house. and so that has been a tension certainly at the backdrop here. she s been asked about it by savannah guthrie, how will president trump in fact be able to work with her, is he used to dealing with women who are in such positions of power. nancy pelosi responding, we ll have to see. so this has been looming large over this relationship. but of course there are a number of other tensions. and as phil was just mapping out, they really seem to be reaching a fever pitch at this point in time, andrea. joining us now for reaction as well, kristen, if you don t mind, and phil, standing by for a moment, we have democratic congressman jimmy panetta, who represents parts of santa clara county in california. we have a lot to talk to you about today, one of the big pieces of legislation that you are sponsoring that overwhelmingly passed the house overnight. first, we have this letter from the president to nancy pelosi that was just sent, basically saying, and you ll recognize the signature here, basically saying, i ll be there, and so happy you invited me, and you invited me even before the shutdown and my people don t say there s any security issues. he s basically daring her to disinvite him because of the propriety or whatever, the politics of having him there addressing the nation from her venue. what should she do now? first of all, thank you for having me on the show. a pleasure. second of all, this is just dialing up the rhetoric. based on my discussions with my constituents at home on the central coast, also i ll include santa cruz county, this is not what people sent me here to be a part of. people sent me here to be a part of legislation and be trying to solve problems, not create chaos, not create problems. unfortunately, right now all they re seeing is this, letters like this, jabs, tit for tats, speaking, not speaking, going on a codel, not going on a codel. that s very unfortunate because right now all of us look bad and all of us need to come to the table and be able to trying to figure this out. we need to open up this government and then start negotiating. enough of this. enough of this. now it s time to start legislating. it takes time, and because it takes time, we have to open up the government. to that point there was according to jim cliburn and others who we spoke to on the hill today, our team up there, that there was the outlines of a possible compromise where these big votes would go down tomorrow, house and senate, and people would come together on a short term continuing resolution, which is always what s been done, with a guarantee that the president will get a markup in committee on the senate side on his bill for a wall with more border security, there s money for it, clearly, this is not a fiscal issue, this is a political issue. does that get sabotaged by this letter dialing up the personal animosity or should nancy pelosi just say, let whoever does whatever, and let s get back to the basics of negotiating a compromise. sure, look, i think what we ve seen is that you have to rise above these types of letters. what we know is that you can t out-trump trump. we know that, we ve seen that. and therefore i would hope that leadership, democrat and republican leadership, house and senate, be able to rise above this and actually get things done. this type of negotiation can be very complex. when you re dealing with border security, when you re dealing with immigration reform, it is very complicated. and therefore it takes time. and so i would love to see a cr to open up the government and then allow congress to actually come to the table with each of their proposals. we re hearing a new proposal now that representative allard has worked over the weekend on that they re going to present. i look forward to seeing that. what if it doesn t include money for the wall? should they give in and give him going to be called a wall just to get past this? look, i think that you have to have first steps. they presented their first step in the senate, the senate bill, mitch mcconnell s bill that they re going to vote on tomorrow. now it s time for us to put our position forward. does it deal with border security? how does it deal with border security? does it deal with dreamers? is it just for daca recipients or the entire dreamers? is it for three years renewable status or a pathway to legal residence? tps recipients as well. what s out there? we need to put something forward. i m glad to hear what our leadership is doing, you need to be able to do that, have these first salvos, then come to the table and talk about it. enough with the letters, enough with the going back and forth. come to the table and start talking about policy, not politics at this point. if the shutdown is still on, should the speaker invite him and permit him, she has the final say, to give the state of the union from the house chamber? that s exactly it, it s going to be up to the speaker. at this point i don t think it s going to happen during a shutdown. i want to ask you about the resolution, help me here, whether this will be binding. it passed the house overwhelmingly. you had republican votes. there is a similar bill in the senate to deny any president the ability to get out of nato. and this is an extraordinarily unprecedented piece of legislation, prompted by the fact that we have credible reporting, i have it from people who were in the room when he threatened to get out of nato at the last nato summit, he s spoken of it since. now you have general mattis resign. what prompted you, you re an afghan war veteran as well, which is partly a nato coalition enterprise. that s correct. and based on my time over there, i saw firsthand on the battlefield the importance of having our nato allies there. they ve been with us for 70 years. we ve been with them for seven decades. that relationship needs to continue, not only because of what has happened, basically, meeting our goals of why nato was created, but also what it will continue to do, be it with the fight against terrorism, be it with pushing back on russian aggression. let me tell you, it was so interesting, on the floor yesterday, as this vote was going down, i was so surprised at the number of members that came up to me, both republican and democrat, who said, i can t believe that we have to do this. but this is what we have to do, and i m voting for your bill. now, what s going to happen next? is there a way that this can be binding on the president? well, the senate is going to take it up. they have their version, as you said. our version prevents any funding for any sort of withdrawal from nato. they have their version that says it has to be two-thirds vote from the senate. it will be combined and hopefully they vote on it, hopefully they do the right thing and pass it and it s going to be put in front of the president and hopefully the president, as he said the other day that we re 100% with nato, if so, sign my bill. now, you ve got obviously a famous name, obviously, for our viewers, you are the son of leon and sylvia panetta. you can recognize me by the nose. former cia director, former white house chief of staff, and other issues. but you re here on your own. correct. you ve got this bill passed, congratulations. thank you very much. great to see you. good to see you, thank you. kasie hunt on the hill, what about the reaction from pelosi and speaker pelosi and the leadership to this letter from the president? andrea, we re still waiting on a formal reaction. i m told we will be the first to receive it when in fact the speaker decides to get back to the president on had letter. but as you rightfully point out, the simple reality of this situation is that nancy pelosi is the speaker of the house and she controls the floor of the house of representatives. and not just anybody is even allowed to walk out onto the floor let alone give an enormous nationally televised address that is a moment for the country. so the president seems to be insisting that he s just going to show up. but the reality is, he would be barred from walking onto the house floor. there are some other steps in there, both the house and the senate pass a resolution, typically, to set the stage for the state of the union, for the joint session of the congress. it s a pretty rare event. so the president s letter is written as though he can just do what he wants when, you know, the reality of the situation, that is simply not the case. kasie hunt, we re going to stand by for reaction. we ll have a lot more on this breaking news story. we ll be right back. stay with us. we ll be right back. stay with us she s watching too, saying [indistinct conversation] [friend] i ve never seen that before. i have. let s take a look at some numbers: i have. 4 out of 5 people who have a stroke, their first symptom. is a stroke. 80 percent of all strokes and heart disease? preventable. and 149 dollars is all it takes to get screened and help take control of your health. we re life line screening. and if you re over 50. call this number, to schedule an appointment. for five painless screenings that go beyond regular check-ups. we use ultrasound technology to literally look inside your arteries. for plaque which builds up as you age- and increases your 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nsc, in the republican white house, as you prepared for a state of the union. have you ever seen anything like this, the letter, the invitation, the back and forth over this while hundreds of thousands of workers are waiting for their pay and contractors are not even going to get their pay? andrea, this entire exercise has been so bizarre to watch it play out. you know, going back to the beginning of the year, there was conventional wisdom that by the time of the state of the union, the shutdown would be over. now the state of the union is back on. this is a long tradition, pretty much since the early turn of the century, woodrow wilson onward, there has always been a state of the union every year. you look at the one year there wasn t, and that was ronald reagan had to delay his state of the union because of the challenger tragedy. and it s such an important exercise for any administration to assess their priorities, because, shockingly, sometimes policy doesn t really start to come together until a big public moment and a bunch of separate government entities are forced to work together and hammer out the facts that undergird all of the policies. so i do think this is an important exercise for any administration, as boring as the state of the union can be, it actually serves an important purpose in the functioning of government. and of course there s nothing in the constitution that requires it, it can be by letter, the venue doesn t matter, but the tradition has been the house of representatives, which is controlled by the speaker. margaret carlson, it s noteworthy in this letter, which is classic trump with the exclamation points, he says in the last sentence, delivered on time, on schedule, and very importantly, on location, exclamation point, as though it s a stage set, which it is. and the fact is that we can understand politically the speaker wanting to deny him the platform, because no democratic response or opposition party response has ever succeeded. no. in fact they can kill careers, those responses. just think of marco rubio and the water bottle and all the rest. so the fact is that he wants the stage, because he knows he can dominate. he can deliver a speech, that s what he does very well, at least he thinks. and by all reports he does. he now wants that speech in that house as much as he wants to win the showdown. this is a preliminary bout. he has to win it. because trump has to be seen as a winner in his own mind or it s debilitating for him. so i think he will win this one. and it may turn out to be even if the shutdown still continues? even if i mean, it could be a fight that nancy pelosi shouldn t have picked, because she was winning. and this muddies the waters a bit, if you ask me. and that letter was spell-checked with all those exclamation points because he s dead serious. and probably there aren t and she gave a reason which a lawyer would never do, of security concerns, which can be batted away by showing that there are none. so i think this is another standoff that we re in the middle of. and this is kind of a pettier one than the actual shutdown. and in fact, kasie hunt, when we were just talking to congressman panetta, he and other democrats are now saying to their leaders, you know, enough already, my constituents want this government reopened, and he was signaling that there needs to be some compromise here. i think that that is something that is starting to percolate among democrats but also among republicans. i think the pressure is starting to build. and we have gone through this story day after day after day kind of wondering when this point was finally going to hit, because those political incentives, they simply weren t lined up. nobody had an incentive to give or to find a way out of this. i think that quite frankly, the pain of it, both direct and personal with individuals who are struggling to, you know, feed their families, to make their rent payments, and also in the aggregate, you know, the impacts on the economy, the impacts on the image of the united states around the world, other things like that, are putting the pressure here in the capitol. and that s coming in part from, as you point out, some democrats who want their leaders to potentially negotiate here. but i do think you hit it, from the state of the union, nancy pelosi knows that the easiest way to get under donald trump s skin is to deny him his stage, which i think is what you ve seen go on here. and right across the capitol grounds there, there is a silent protest of furloughed workers in the hart building. kelly o donnell is there. kelly, you have access, these workers are silently holding up signs, unlike some of the more active protests we saw during some of the kavanaugh hearings in the same location, this seems to be effective in gathering a large ground behind you. there is a large crowd here. and we expect it to work in phases. i talked to some of the organizers here, these are public service sector union members who have come together, and people supporting them. they wanted to have 33 minutes of quiet to represent each of the days of the government shutdown. and you might see over my shoulder a number of people are holding up paper plates with various written messages, paper plates to signify they re going without their basic now the chanting is beginning, which is the second phase, but paper plates to signal they need their paychecks for the basic things of feeding their families and protecting themselves from this economic hardship. this phase that is just beginning now, so we re well-timed here, is what they told me would be a chanting phase, where they knew that u.s. capitol police would at some point be obligated to clear this space. some of these protesters intend to make their way to offices of lawmakers, namely mitch mcconnell, the senate majority leader, and others. we went for a long time here with almost pin-drop quiet. now they re shifting to this new phase. we ll give you a sense of how it s playing out here, both members of the public, members of these unions. lots of media here. a strong presence of u.s. capitol police who are well-accustomed to these sort of expressions of first amendment rights, where these workers are saying they want to get back to work, andrea. kelly, a lot of these people, some may be some are from other agencies, obviously. but when we talk about it, we ve been focusing as well on public service contractors, security officers, people who cook, who clean, who do very lowly paying jobs, who have been without pay for a month, and are not going to get their pay back. always, as you know better than i, the congress votes after the government reopens, people getting back pay. that the not a good deal. they get paid, but the contractors don t. exactly, contractors go without pay. in this particular shutdown, the legislative branch has been covered so a lot of people who work on capitol hill are getting paid and are coming to work. these unions represent a lot of different service entities in the public space, public sector workers who are not getting paid now and are furloughed. and so they are frustrated by missing a second paycheck. in many instances you have people who in some cases have both spouses who are on the federal payroll, therefore not being paid. this is the kind of expression of people who are accustomed to the security of a federal paycheck, expressing their voices that this has gone on so long, and that it s having a real impact on their lives. for those who will get retroactively paid, that does not account for late fees on credit cards or frustrations and disagreements with landlords. all the array of things that are part of the in the moment kind of situation. so, these protesters are expected to disperse, to continue making their voices heard around the capital complex. andrea? kelly o donnell on the scene. as always, thank you so much. elise jordan, kasie hunt, kristen welker. thanks to all of you. and we ll be right back. coming up next, cast away. the head of the coast guard slamming the government shutdown as his members continue to patrol waters without pay. you re watching andrea mitchell reports, only on msnbc. your brain changes as you get older. but prevagen helps your brain with an ingredient originally discovered. in jellyfish. in clinical trials, prevagen has been shown to improve short-term memory. prevagen. healthier brain. better life. and if you feel, like i feel baby then come on, oh come on let s get it on applebee s. now that s eatin good in the neighborhood. we re five plus weeks into the anxiety and stress of this government lapse and your nonpay. you as members of the armed forces should not be expected to shoulder this burden. ultimately i find it unacceptable that coast guard men and women have to rely on food pantries and donation s to get through day to day life as service members. unacceptable, that s what the commandant is calling the hardships they are experiencing because of the shutdown. joining me now is julia ainsley, national security and justice reporter. julia, it s really hard to believe that we expect these people to respond to emergencies, to patrol the borders. they are part of our national security. they are part of border patrol and drug interdiction and they re not exempted as being essential. that s the case admiral schultz is making in this video, which is unusual. we haven t seen other people from the armed forces or d.h.s. which has a similar mission come forward. his message to his workers, he doesn t explicitly name trump, he said this shutdown is unacceptable. it s a morale booster. it reminds everybody of what the coast guard does, which is not just patrolling the waters. they also patrol guantanamo bay, a major security, they interdict cocaine. cocaine is the biggest threat they pick up. a lot of people could forget all of those operations. that s really when the president says when he wants more border security. that s who is suffering, the people on that mission. the fact is the president did bring back state department funding last week because there was a lot of impact around the world at our embassies, but not this. so this funding could have been brought back. they could have found money for the coast guard and they didn t. so could hud. so could some pieces of food stamps. you could start picking of all the things that need to come back and it would just be playing favorites. essentially what they need is a reopening of the government in order to fund this crucial mission. and i would say, too, some of the most sophisticated smuggling organizations, woegt human smuggling and drug trafficking, know how to get through in the water. there are submarines that can come up the west coast carrying drugs. these are the sophisticated criminal organization the president talks about in his speech and those are the people who are now supposed to be patrolled by unpaid workers by the coast guard. kathy park, one of our correspondents, interviewed amber broadway in cape cod at one of the coast guard stations about the real personal impact on that family. we have had a couple of family members that have reached out and said, if you guys absolutely need it, please take this. if you absolutely need it, please let us know. we don t want you and the boys to go without anything. i think that s really great. but my family doesn t work hard to support the fact that my husband is not being paid. it makes me sad to have to accept help from family for something that we really truly don t have any control over. that s just one person s story. multiply that by all of the numbers of people and the coast guard and their families. that s true. i mean, like we said at guantanamo, i was at guantanamo bay in november. those are people who are away from their families. we don t think about the coast guard deploying. that is a mission they re deployed and their family isn t getting anything. we re hearing this across the federal gofr federal government. it is important to remember they are part of the armed force ands they aren t getting salary. it is important the family speaks out when they can t do that. julia ainsley, thank you so much for all of your reporting. that does it for this edition of andrea mitchell reports. tonight since announcing her 2020 run, senator kamala harris joins rachel maddow live for a one on one interview. that is not to be missed. watch rachel maddow tonight at 9:00 p.m. eastern, excuse me. and remember to follow our show tomorrow and every day, every week day online, on facebook and on at which timer at mitchell reports. and here is chris jansing in for velshi & ruhle. i am chris jansing. they will join us from davos in switzerland. it s january 23rd. let s get smarter. president trump does seem determined to give his state of the union address despite house speaker nancy pelosi urging him to delay it. and as the senate ask poised to vote on competing bills to end the stalemate, there is still no clear end in sight. whether he does that from the halls of congress or whether he does that in another location, the president will talk to the american people on january 29th. does the president see the images of federal workers standing in line at food pantries? certainly, and nobody wants to see that happen, which is why the president put forward a
not get worse, the president release as vis vicious tirade. senator john mccain is dead. so why are you doing this? three days ago it came out that his main person gave to the fbi a fake news dossier. it was a fake and a fraud. they gave it to john mccain who gave it to the fbi for very evil purposes. i m not a fan. he was horrible with what he did with repeal and replace and what he did to sick people who could have had great health care and i m not a fan of john mccain and that s fine. the spirit of john mccain is living so close that president trump fears to roll over lest he run into the late senator. a live president cohabitating with the deceased robber. a mccabe nightmare with every breath of this disturbed nightmare. the president lumeanted that he was never thanked for giving him the kind of funeral he wanted. bridget, who has remained a private figure called on this president to be decent and respectful. tweeting, even if you were invited to my dad s funeral, you would have only wanted to be there for the credit and not condolences. you are a child in the moesz important role the world knows. people close to the president tell the washington post that his attacks might be about the looming report on orussian election interference from the special councils s office. and others said he has fewer advisors to restrain him from air his grievances. even aids who are used to his unc unconventional style have been left uncomfortable. it does not appear to be a great use of our time to talk about george conway or dead john mccain. why are we doing this? he called the president of kellyanne conway a total loser. george conway responded by posting a list of osymptoms of narcissistic disord oer. need for admiration and lack of empathy. he ended with this tweet. you are nuts. mark salter, a long-time aid to senator mccain picked up on the president s state of mind. i think you have to be genuinely bereft of a human being to talk ill of a dead man. the problem is trump. he has no oself-control and he s the most powerful man on the planet. and that s what all republican said for the sab of the party s future, for the sake of the country ought to be addressing. it s glaringly obvious this man s unfit for the office. former mayor of new orleans and author of in the shadows with statues. and what struck me as a very strong performance which i know you bested the president that night. you said i don t think my friends are the basis of politics. that is almost unimaginable. but usually they can walk past a guy they just debated and say hello to her. have a nice weekend. some civility amidst the fighting. this president makes it personal to the point he won t let a deceased rival go. it s still personal. explain and criticize. i would observe that steve kilis is my congressman. he lives not too far from me. we serve in the legislature together. we hardly agree on the time of day and we actually go to mardi gras parades together. you can be hard on the problem and soft on the people. there s a phrase in law, resipsresip res ipsa loqita. we cantermine what he s doing is wraun. if he was sit at the table with his daddy, you wouldn t let the guy be your coach. you would let the guy do anything. it seems so strange he wants to spend the nation s important time doing something so awful. you don t have to agree with him to understand the commitment he made to the can country. by focusing so much atens on this and on george conway, we re not focussed on many things. that s his problem. if you put that aside for a second, this is what we re not talking about. how to rebuild the roads and brinls a bri bridges and fibs the harb system so that regular americans can have an opportunity that s your argument. but it s not the problem of the president. i want you to tell me is he fit to be president? he s obviously not acting in a way the president of the united states should act. people can question what in the world is he daes is he correctible? no. in other words he s going to stay this way for the rest of his presidency? you ve known a lot of presidents over your time. the majesty of the office will curb even the most difficult personality into humility. we now have a lot of days of experience with him. he s not going to change. he is authentically who he says he is and unfortunately that s not capable of running the office well and that just happens to be the case and i think if we wait for him to change and concentrate on his behavior, i thin we re going to be waiting a long time. don t hold your breath. joni ernst, is the latest republican to criticize the president s attacks on john mccain. after being pressed at a town hall today, she said john mccain is a dear friend of a mine so, no, i don t agree with him and he needs to stop. sources tell the washington post that the president takes particular pride in the fact that gop voters prefer him over mccain. saying he has bragged that republicans might cringe but not punish him oever the attacks. thank you so much for coming on tonight and i m sorry you re not running in this race. thank you very much. thank you. i want to start with george on this. i think i don t think he s going to change. the aids are telling him say he shouldn t do this and he s obsessed almost like a edger allen poe figure. he thinks mccain is trying to get in. srit s like r and he s go to despair nl. it s a metabolic urge. i never see a story that says president trump s strategy on x. or y . he just doesn t do that. he s furniture. it seems to me there s something of snowwhite in this guy. mirror, mirror on the wall and he thinks he s hearing in the john mccain funeral and his moral superiority and the fact he went and just a week or two ago we got the word of how trump has a concierge doctor that got him out of the war. let s set aside that this is not just president trump wanting to talk about all sorts of things other than the mueller report. what the president is haunted by the john mccain funeral. i was on the phone the day with you john mccain was laid to rest. if you re a president sitting in the row, you re thinking this is what my funeral is going to look like. president trump had to be thinking that s not what my funeral is going to look like. the fact he s mentioning him is based on a lie. george papadopoulos was bragging to an australian diplomat. that person said hey, they have dirt on hillary clinton coming from russia and based on how he s attacking john mccain is based onb a lie. the national cathedral telling nbc the washington national cathedral was honored to host the funeral service for john mccain. no funeral at the cathedral requires the approval of the president or any other government oofficial. two days after senator mccain s death, family spokesman, rick davis, said this. the combined efforts of the trumped a m trump administration, secretary mattis and the military district washington are rel and we thank them for coming together quickly and playing together all the federal resources. i guess this was only on television, which the president watches relentlessly. i know you re a a baseball guy and i was thinking of yogi bearau s line if you don t go to other people s funerals, they won t go to yours. he s angry about fill in the blank. what was the first controversy of this president? the size at the inauguration. photographic evidence disproved his claims and it didn t matter. he stands in front of the wall of honor of people who have died in service of the cia and bragged. let s take a look. he s protective of me and that s what people should take from this is i m not being asked to choose between my marriage and my job. the president has never made me feel that way. you have to do some soap opera explan ayes. why is the president going after george? why is george go after the president? you re nuts. that s very strong. i hear he s a very smart guy, by the way. george. he and other republicans thought of this administration and the campaign was a campaign. he s going to govern like a regular president. we all remember those conversations, right? hope springs eternal. he and so many others are tweeting and angry. kellyanne conway is stuck in the middle in the way no one would want to be. she has a job to do while her husband is attacking her boss. there are people who criticize her about the way she defends the administration. but she s not been picking fights the way her husband has. so it leaves you to shake your head. most of us grew up with the idea that once you become president the office does something to you and we never thought of harry truman as anything more than a kansas city paul. roosevelt once said his idea of being president was to be franklin roosevelt. the horror is president trump s idea of being president is being donald trump. that s the horror story we ve unleashed here. the alcumists used to say we can turn led into gold. i think 270 electoral votes turned loud into a president. that s not how the chemistry works. thank you. come up, unraveling the mueller mysteries. the unanswered questions as washington waits for the report to drop any day. house democrats are demanding answers after jared kushner and ivanka trump used private emails as the white house continues to stone wall investigators. what should democrats be looking for in a presidential candidate? 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i don t know. they re staking out the special counsel s office right now. capturing robert mueller going to work. no word on when he will release his findings. the president said the public should see the final report. how is that for a flip? a new poll shows that public agrees 87%. and who are these people that don t think it should be made public? attorney general william barr is not obligated to do so legally. was the president, through his business dealings or otherwise compromised by russia? anyone else, donald trump jr., prince, whoever? be charged. why did manafort share polling data with a russian intelligence operative. and why has the president attacked the investigation? let s take a look. regardless of recommendation i was going to fire comey knowing there was no good time to do it. and in fact when i decided to just do it, i said to myself, you know this russia thing with trump and russia is a made up story. i am disappointed in the attorney general. he should not have recused himself. i have president putin. he just said it s not russia. i will say this. i don t see any reason why it would be. look, comey is a leaker and a liar. so very simply michael cohen is liing. i never directed him to do anything wrong. whatever he did, he did on his own. he s a lawyer. the question was asked about pardons with respect to paul manafort. i think they asked would you? i said i m not taking anything off the table. there should have never been a special counsel in my opinion. it s an illegal investigation. chuck rosenberg, former u.s. attorney and senior fbi official. and washington bureau chief. i m go doing flip these cards and go to the bottom line. you re great at this. a motivational question. if he s innocent of the main charge of culose with the russians, advancing a russian conspiracy, also or possibly as well guilty of obstruction of justice for intimidating comey, the whole works, why did he do all that if he s innocent? why are you acting like you did it? one of the things we struggle with is to get into someone s mind. the more the president talks about all the things that he didn t do and others did to him and why this is a witch hunt and a hoax, the more it illuminates what we call consciousness of guilt. i know he talk as lot about how everything has turned on him and against him and it s all unfair. and to mooe us that s consciousness of guilt. is that what they meant by returning to the scene of the crime? you drive by the bank that you robbed over and over and over again to see if anyone s investigating the bank robbery. so the president like the guy who starts the fire goes back and watches the fire? right. his words, tweets, actions seems to be concerned about something. did he commit a crime? i don t know. if he s opposing all these vezs on pure kaungs tuesdayal grounds, like it s wrong to question a guy, there s so much prim primau facingy evidence that they were in regular dealing with russian figures close to the kremlin. absolutely. there s reams of evidence. the other psychological element here, whether or not trump actually conspired directly with the russians, he wants people to thin he won this election fair and square, just like he denied that hillary clinton won the popular vote. he wants to deny that he wanted their help and they helped him. there s also the sense of denial, extreme denial. that he might have only won the electoral vote because the russians put him over the edge. he s still fighting with hillary clinton in the way he s fighting with john mccain. we have to remember in this scandal, which i thin you can argue is the most kaungs kwenco presidential scandal in history, he basically helped the russians get away with the atab. while they were attacking the election, he kept saying it wasn t happening. evilen after he received briefings that it was. he wants to cover up the taint and this profound act of betrayal. he wants to us forget that he lied to the american public about dealing withpute andn russia and putin s own ooffice while campaigning in order to make hundreds of millions of dollars. there s so much he did that is wrong and we ve gotten focussed on the criminal side of this, which he wants, because if he can t be indicted and he can argue the collusion case, he s already done so much though that if we weren t living in these tribalized time of politics, he would have been raked over the coals and the public would have rejected him for this. jerry ford, he pardoned nixon. everybody like me was saying ib want to know what happened. will we, in this report when it comes out, next wednesday, who knows when, will we get a sense of what happened with russia and trump? as you know watergate came out 40 years later. will here s the problem. you have stuff that will inevitably be in the report that you shouldn t see because it s classified or grand jury information. there s a way to handle classified information. there s a way to handle grand jury information. but if you have ongoing investigations and i imagine we do in the southern district of no new york and elsewhere, that should remain confidenseal. i was going to say the one thing that they did have is they didn t really have a report in watergate. they had a a road map to follow what the grand jury testimony and the evidence told them. and the same thing could happen here. you may not get a report from mueller but you may and we already do have from the litany, the variety of indictments and proscuss that have already taken place, there s a a pretty good road map already for congress to follow. the op-ed, james comey writes, even though i believe mr. trump is morally unfit to be president of the united states, i m not rooting for mr. mueller to demonstrate that he is a criminal. i m also not rooting for him to clear the president. i m rooting for a can demonstration that world that the united states has a justice system that works because there are people who believe in it and rise above tribalism. i don t think he s that pis that he doesn t cay what happens. it would be nice to know weir rar country of law. there s the law and finding out what the heck happened. they re they re not the same thing. it s not his job to tlel. his job is to prosecute cases. i think we re hyping this. he only has to tell the attorney general what his prosecutorial decisions were. comey went beyond that with hillary clinton he went out and said i don t like her. i m not indicting her. and he got reamed for that. the real issue is what you were talking about. whatever mueller presents to the attorney general, there s still an obligation for the public to know. mueller s report could literally be a dozen pages that tell us nothing new. it s not the end of the game here. i think it s important as a citizen and i think commentator, it would be nice to know what s going on in 2016. we know russia interfered in our election. we know the president and his campaign had interactions with the russians. we know the russians tried to directly help the campaign. the public needs know how far that went. how far up the chain so we can feel confident in our system of justice and our system of democracy. so we can put next to the 2016 election the little thing like barry bonds. what s her name? armstrong. and yeah, he got the election but. we got enough information from mueller to have that in the history books. unanimous analysis and opinion that we have an asterisk there. they can t tell us how many votes flipped, how many people changed their minds. they can tell us and have told us that the russians interfered in the election to benefit trump. would it say that trump helped him. well, he did help him by making it a political issue. and that s a fascinating open question that i hope mueller answers and i hope we get to read it. what do they want with that except to do the micromarketing of voters the stuff we know goes on today. hillary. thank you, caroline. what a beautiful name. my daughter s a caroline. also beautiful names. up next what are democrats looking for when it comes to candidate? sharon brown, who recently left, well, never really got in it. the matters.ar. introducing the all-new 2019 ford ranger, it s the right gear. with a terrain management system for. this. a bash plate for. that. an electronic locking rear differential for. yeah. this. heading to the supermarket? 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i don t know. it s a huge number of candidates. i live jim cliburn and i trust his judgement. we were with him and his daughters in south carolina two or three weeks ago. we ll see how it all plays out. i assume joe biden gets in the race. i assume he dwiwill do some interesting things in this race. i think we ll have but i don t predict things very often but perhaps the most diverse ticket we ve ever had. so we ll see. i listen constantly. you were thinking of getting into itb i think. what did you see in terms of the stressors on the party? the base? that that s african-americans mainly. who s turn is it? is it their turn? the voters in the primaries are going to decide. i think the winner in this, the person here s where i will make a prediction, the person who becomes a nominee will be the candidate, man or woman, has done the best job talking about the dignity of work, talking about honoring and respecting work, talking about the democratic party being the party of workers and come january 20th, 2021, whoever raises his or her right hand will include in that speech discussion of the dignity of work. it s not a slogan and it s how they will govern. i think which ever candidate does that the best, about dignity of work and how they will govern with those messages and through the eyes of workers is the next president. do you think it s odd heading to 2020 that three frontrunners in the democratic party that is dominated by women, that three top people running right now are bernie sanders, joe biden and beto right now in some of these numbers. i guess kamala harris is three. but is it still a door open for a white male? to put an all white male ticket together or is that out of the question? i think bernie and joe are leading because they re the best known. joe s been around for 45 years in politics and vice president eight of those. bernie was obviously the runner up candidate four years ago. and anybody getting in the race knows not necessarily those are the two to beat, but those are the two that are go toing to lead through the spring and summer until the candidates really mix it up and then we ll see who comes out. i don t thin that matters much what the polls say. i think democrats, whoever the candidate is has faced three vulnerabilities. one is open borders. yeah, i got the wall. i got something. they got nothing . the other is soelsism. and third is late-term abortion which a lot of people don t like the idea of late-term abortion. i think those three witnesses. it s possible trump can win with those three things going for him even as weak as he is. it s unlikely if democrats do this right. trump has betrayed workers, number one. he promised workers there would be jobs coming in. instead since he was elected, we ve lost 4500 jobs in that plant and thousands more in the region in an area of half a million people. he s betrayed workers and all the promises he s made. he give as tax cut to the richest people in the country and they then want to raise the eligibility raise for medicare or go after social security, medicare, head start. all the values stand for. i run in a state that s increasingly conservative and more republican than sometimes i d like it. i go to areas where they know i m pro-choice. they knowi i ve been for marriae equality but i get a lot of their votes because i talk about the dignity of work. i talk about their kid getting into sinclair and getting breaks in life. i talk about haealth care for their kids and parents. and you take the debate and you make the contrast between who we are and who trump is and what he stands for and we win no matter the background nose and all the white noise that he keepsperting out there. when i hear you i believe you. senator from ohio. remember a few years ago when a high ranking government official got into hot water for releasing her, her private email accounts. now the house oversight committee wants to know more about ivanka trump and jared kushner s now admitted use of private email accounts to conduct white house business. i think we re back in the problem area. that s up next. that s up next let s be honest: dealing with your insurance can be frustrating. but with esurance, just snap some pics and you could get back on the road fast! well, not that fast. this editor made this commercial fit in 15 seconds. when insurance is simple, it s surprisingly painless. when you rent from national. it s kind of like playing your own version of best ball. because here, you can choose any car in the aisle, even if it s a better car class than the one you reserved. so no matter what, you re guaranteed to have a perfect drive. 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if that were a republican that what she did, they would have been in jail 12 months ago. i guarantee you we re going to be talking about those emails every moment of every day. what about the royal family s emails? jared and ivanka? if you re going to be a phoney, at least be sincere about it. what do you make of the fact that they did this after the experience of all the lock her up nonsense? it s kind of counterdeflection trump has. meaning i hope you don t find i should be locked up. she s a liar. meaning i m the liar. and they do this all the time to deflect attention away from themselves. but this is pretty jaw dropping. i forget the name. apparently this whatsapp does is destroy itself. so there s no way to trace it. after all the vinvestigation and probes into hillary clinton, they found three with a class a and on this there may have been indeed more serious classified information traded here if the reporting was accurate that kushner was communicating, specifically with cnn s report of the saudi crown prince and other officials who apparently was using her ao lrl account. so there was very much a concern that there were actual state secrets and classified information that may have been exchanged. i say may because we don t have the information. and if you talk to the lawyer for kushner. i never said who he was trading messages with. friends and so the points stands that we don t have all the information and it appears that white house is not going to agree to give us the information. let s remember this is compounded by the fact that jared kushner tried four times to get a security clearance. we got someone kwhooz rr really entitled to a security clearance who is handling classified material with foreign leaders. he s talking about a grand plan to give land to saudi, and give to jordanian land. and he s nobody. who is he to go after this stuff. and his brother is going after teresa may. they re acting like they re running the world these people. the rules don t apply to them. their daddy never sent them to bed i guess. yes. up next my personal thanks to the man who will become the longest living president. becom longest living president you control your blood sugar around the clock. and with a $0 copay, that s something to groove about. let s groove tonight. toujeo® is used to control high blood sugar in adults with diabetes. it contains 3 times as much insulin in 1 milliliter as standard insulin. don t use toujeo® to treat diabetic ketoacidosis, during episodes of low blood sugar, or if you re allergic to insulin. get medical help right away if you have a serious allergic reaction such as body rash, or trouble breathing. don t reuse needles, or share insulin pens. the most common side effect is low blood sugar, which can be life-threatening. it may cause shaking, sweating, fast heartbeat, and blurred vision. check your blood sugar levels daily. injection site reactions may occur. don t change your dose of insulin without talking to your doctor. tell your doctor about all your medicines and medical conditions. check insulin label each time you inject. taking tzds with insulins like toujeo® may cause heart failure that can lead to death. toujeo®, ask your doctor. let s groove tonight. people ask me what my favorite job was over the years. well, this one is certainly hard to beat. i wake up, read my newspapers, digest it all and know it s useful when weighing what happens between then and getting on hardball . i want to thank for another job i had. and that s presidential speech writer. in fact writing for a president i truly admire, march 22nd, 2019, reach as landmark age of the longest living american president. jimmy carter has been around a lawn time. he s 94. he will have lived a day longer than george herber walker bush. he is a man who was never marred for a second by scandal or sleez of any kind. no matter about impeachment in carter s time and when it came time for him to go after his failed election campaign in 1980, he left the office with his head high, and his conscience clear. he s done his best and not his worst. above and beyond the experience of flying with him on air force 1 as the pilot took off in a steep 45 degrees. he kept our reputations clean as well. it was the job i wanted after my time in africa as a peace core speech writer to the president. i got the chance to be that for the most honest and moral man ever to lead us who honored the call of profit mica to act justly, to love mercy and to walk humbly with your god. and that s hardball for now. or softball. all in with chris hayes starts right now. tonight on all in. threat come out. let people see it. as the world awatsz some word from robert mueller. the fact they don t respond to one single request begs the question why? disturbing new details about the president s top aid. she s so formal. concerns about how they handle classified information. the president had no involvement pertaining to my clearance or my husband s clearance. jared s done an outstanding job. the investigation into jared kushner and ivanka trump. it s always corruption.