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that could've been done maybe they could've objected a bit more in the closing arguments the judge allowed the prosecution to allege there was election crimes that the conviction of cohen matters to whether or not trump did it and there are other errors, the defense did a very good job but the deck was stacked against them from the beginning they were out to get trump and they got them at this stage. trey: i'll tell you why it's hard to object when you never win the jury thinker tried to keep stuff from them, it's a horrible look i would've sat on my hands because every time they objected it was overruled, lee zeldin, thank you so much i have a suspicion the three of us will be back together at some point in continuing this conversation, thank you for joining us on a sunday night. >> up next a dying empire that's how young voters described u.s. politics the presidential debate is this month, believe it or not
time, let's listen to what he had to say. >> i believe the supreme court should step in obviously this is totally unprecedented and dangerous to our system. i think the justice on the court i know many of them personally i think the deeply concerned about that as we are and i think they will set the street, this will be overturned there's no question about it it's going to take time to do it. mike is a really smart guy but i would be surprised if the u.s. supreme court stepped in. i think there is going to be a sentencing in july and i think there will be a state court of appeal, i think this is going to be an issue in november but let's assume i'm wrong about all of that what are the best issues on appeal from your standpoint from the u.s. supreme court standpoint and from a state of new york standpoint? >> if you don't like the phrase rigged how about railroaded president trump was railroaded because this judge had the jury instructions that said you could choose your own adventure your three potential options how you
except for election leading cases against political opponents, if surprising negative stories during the campaign is really a crime, you better start building more prisons, donald trump will be sentenced to july 11 days before the republican national convention, actual prison time is unlikely because alvin bragg for the most part does not believe in prison but we shall see whether bragg and judge mershon put up first-time defender in a nonviolent case behind bars. joe biden likes the justice system this week. >> as reckless, it is dangerous, it is a responsible for anyone to say this was rigged just because they don't like the verdict, our justice system has endured for 250 years and literally is the cornerstone of america. our justice system the justice
together the country was doing better than i had ever done or going back to the same policies and some. >> trump will be sentenced this summer our financial penalty, home confinement, probation work for years on prison are punishments on the table. >> the judge could say house arrest or jail. >> i'm okay i don't know if the public would stand and i'm not sure the public would stand for. >> box legal have been skeptical that trump will face incarceration because of his age and lack of a prior criminal record is been convicted of the lowest level colonies in new york making it unlikely he will spend any time behind bars. former manhattan district attorney agrees. >> i think the proximity of the republican convention for days after his sentencing and if he is a candidate for the republican party the proximity of the election i would be surprised that he would be sentenced to any imprisonment. >> it is set for july 114 days before the republican national
talking about revenge is a dish served cold. and they won't punish you for that. if the jury thinks are being authentic, even if what you said is to rent us, juries have heard drug dealers and you have to come off as authentic. i was surprised that there were times when you could feel the resistance. >> i wanted to talk to you about the judge overseeing this. full disclosure, i have a question. i think he is a spectacular judge. the first thing when i went to court the first time, i was struck by his voice and we have all been in court and we've seen judges who cannot control the courtroom and those who control a courtroom by raising their voice and through histrionics. he controlled the courtroom by being the adult in the room and
because they want an outcome. that is they want guilty. will you can appeal. will grates, but you cannot appeal in time also having to appeal under the process that is unconstitutional in my view. as the nullification of the due process and equal protection for that is what took place in that courtroom. these are federal constitutional violations. this is by i think jim trusty the judge did not care. it was of no consequence to him. the appeal process, who cares i'll be after the fact the damage will be done. don't you think that is what they were thinking? lexus i think so. i tend not to go too heavy but any judge in lesson sitting in court every day and really picking up on some of the more subtle psychology in moments of it. this case was chock full of error. that feels like a politicized reckless kind of approach. a search of the judge not
will elect him again for this to be a feather in his cap you've got a judge we do not even understand how this judge was appointed he was an acting judge. they are not going to reflect on what they've done and any negative way. they are conquering heroes as far as i'm concerned but last minute, i'll give it to you, jim. >> the good news for president trump is a lot of people seem to be recognizing that. whether they watch a show, listen to me, whether their lawyers are not people of the fundamental sense of fairness and unfairness. they watch this trial were sorted replacing criminal were intent was left to a buffet for a bunch of manhattan jurors to pick from. it was nothing close to anything i have ever seen. to go back to the gag order, 35 years in the criminal justice system i've never seen a defendant gag. everything has been selectively about donald trump of people are fed up with it. mark: god bless you my friend, thank you for coming on.
jury out. but then, robert costello is giving it back to the judge. and he got so upset that he cleared the courtroom. if there is a security situation, that's one thing. the judge was fired up and worried about what he might say, so he cleared the courtroom for a few minutes. we all came back in and he is still rolling his eyes for the remainder of the afternoon. >> there is a period where everyone is out of the courtroom other than the defense table and the prosecution table, but then the public and the press are out >> not all of the public. it's of the room.interesting because as you mentioned the first two rows that were like friends of the bride and groom, they were still there. but this is where all of us to go. >> the media is screaming that we have a right to be here and
had such a calm, judicial temperament. i felt like he was not going to tolerate -- i thought it was remarkable. and with that sort of my view, how did you think he did? this is the first ever trial of a current or former president. enormous pressure and enormous claims of violations of the gag order and a lot of novel legal issues to deal with. how do you think he did managing the case? >> we've been in front of judges on very high stakes cases. the one thing we know is the person who's the gatekeeper is the judge. the jury looks to the judge as a paternal figure or a maternal figure or someone who will guide us through this process,
which can be confusing. but think about donald trump as he is introduced us to different judges. we've seen the confirmation hearings of brett kavanaugh and his demeanor. we've seen justice and in terms of americaknow judge merchan is not being not being able to see in here. he's ablemeasured and calm in the face toof all these complex legal issues. this man, judge merchan, came from colombia at the age of six. he's one of six children. he was washing dishes and went to school. he's the first member of his family to go to college. he lived in queens and worked at the manhattan da's office